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I've been wondering about this for a while -- if Mike Johnson would just say "I think there's election fraud, so how 'bout I just pick the next president" or words to that effect.

This headline says he can't but by now I've seen enough election lawyering to know there's a "well, if you look at it a different way" or "we gotta let Clarence Thomas vote on this one" coming.  

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2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

I guess we should explain that it's the Fifth Circuit, which has jurisdiction only over Texas, MIssissippi, and Louisiana.  Of those, only Mississippi attempts to count votes not received by election day.  So it only actually affects Mississippi and it wasn't changing the electoral outcome in any of them.  ETA, even the MS Secretary of State said the change will not be implemented until after this election.

But, it could be used as a precedent elsewhere.  It's not binding anywhere else, and, now that the Fifth Circuit has lost most of its credibility, will not be a convincing precedent   And, luckily, the trial court reached the opposite conclusion and didn't attempt to give a nationwide injunction against such laws.

Also, this is what wildcat refers to.  Purcell.

The goal is not to win court cases or even the election.  The goal is to inject enough disinformation, confusion, and lawfare into the system so that the House, state legislatures, and local officials can just appoint DJT president. 

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1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The goal is not to win court cases or even the election.  The goal is to inject enough disinformation, confusion, and lawfare into the system so that the House, state legislatures, and local officials can just appoint DJT president. 

Well, no worries, our expedient legal process should help us sort thru all this by 2047.  

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I've been wondering about this for a while -- if Mike Johnson would just say "I think there's election fraud, so how 'bout I just pick the next president" or words to that effect.
This headline says he can't but by now I've seen enough election lawyering to know there's a "well, if you look at it a different way" or "we gotta let Clarence Thomas vote on this one" coming.  
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There would be numerous posters on this very board claiming that this is a fine, logical, legal idea and our Trump Derangement Syndrome/hatred for America prevents us from seeing that.
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According to republican ads, the biggest issues in this country are trans people and murderous/rapist immigrants. Also, why do I never hear from Democrats that inflation is better? In their ads or otherwise, at least it seems that way to me.

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3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

What is everyone's opinion that Kamala Harris should go on Joe Rogan's podcast? 

Just because a lot of people listen to it. Larger audience than most of those rallies she is doing. 

And Joe is not exactly known for ferociously grilling his guests.

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45 minutes ago, Pancho said:


Boy, stop. R

Harris going on Rogan isn’t officially dead, Jesus Christ. 

Not sure why my posts are triggering you. You might just have to accept disagreeing with me.

people are voting. Any indecision OR a decision not to go on Rogan, is effectively not going on the show. I’m also 100% aware people can delay or change their decision but there are consequences when millions are voting. 

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14 hours ago, Red Five said:

There is something about going on Joe Rogan that feels beneath the office, unlike any of the other podcasts/interviews she's done. Probably because Rogan is a meathead fucking idiot. 

He is, but he's wildly popular.  I also feel like the vapid Call Her Daddy podcast was equally beneath the office, but you have to penetrative our modern media silos somehow.

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2 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Not sure why my posts are triggering you. You might just have to accept disagreeing with me.

people are voting. Any indecision OR a decision not to go on Rogan, is effectively not going on the show. I’m also 100% aware people can delay or change their decision but there are consequences when millions are voting. 

 

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He is, but he's wildly popular.  I also feel like the vapid Call Her Daddy podcast was equally beneath the office, but you have to penetrative our modern media silos somehow.

She did Howard Stern. Gtfo here with the beneath the office. It's the 1st or 2nd largest English spoken podcast on the planet. 

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5 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Not sure why my posts are triggering you. You might just have to accept disagreeing with me.

people are voting. Any indecision OR a decision not to go on Rogan, is effectively not going on the show. I’m also 100% aware people can delay or change their decision but there are consequences when millions are voting. 

Your posts aren’t triggers—they just aren’t well reasoned. 

There’s been no announcement about her going on Rogan yet you’re angry that she hasn’t done it. There’s been no evidence that it’s the Harris team that is waffling about going on Rogan and you keep suggesting that it is. 

 

That’s all.

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8 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

people are voting. Any indecision OR a decision not to go on Rogan, is effectively not going on the show. I’m also 100% aware people can delay or change their decision but there are consequences when millions are voting. 

I forget who said it but women are crawling over glass to vote if they need to. Fuck the fascist. He'll be in prison soon. 

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1 minute ago, Pancho said:

Your posts aren’t triggers—they just aren’t well reasoned. 

There’s been no announcement about her going on Rogan yet you’re angry that she hasn’t done it. There’s been no evidence that it’s the Harris team that is waffling about going on Rogan and you keep suggesting that it is. 

 

That’s all.

There's not only no evidence, there's evidence pointing the exact opposite fucking way! 

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11 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

And I banked at BBVA when it became PNC and went to shit. 

This ain't no lie.  I was Compass -> BBVA -> PNC.  I was surprised at how little changed in the Compass to BBVA transition, but this PNC is some fucking bullshit.  I hate those cunts.

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I can’t believe we are still on the Rohan thing, but I wouldn’t be surprised if part of the issue is scheduling, especially if she’s gonna do an in studio. Taking half a day to go to Austin this late in the campaign is not a good use of valuable campaign time. Look at how w bad it fubar-d Trump’s schedule yesterday. 

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Polls have sample sizes of hundreds or a couple of thousand. Early voting has sample size of millions. It’s not theoretical or speculative. All polling is based on modeling from past elections. There has never been a gender gap like this in turnout. If Harris wins by a surprising number, this will be why pollsters didn’t see it coming.

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6 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

Frustrated Headache GIF by Kelly Clarkson
 

I can’t believe we are still on the Rohan thing, but I wouldn’t be surprised if part of the issue is scheduling, especially if she’s gonna do an in studio. Taking half a day to go to Austin this late in the campaign is not a good use of valuable campaign time. Look at how w bad it fubar-d Trump’s schedule yesterday. 

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13 hours ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Ok I’m gonna let you in on a secret. No bro who listens to Rogan is undecided, nor will their minds be changed at this point in the race. A lightbulb isn’t going to suddenly go off in their head. Shit, I bet the majority of them aren’t even going to actually vote. She needs to spend the next 10 days getting her people out. Not chasing the mythical white bro vote

Not true at all.  One bro that works for me and listens to a variety of podcasts including JR was on the fence  until I sent him an article about Trump greenlighting Bibi to "do what he has to do".

He is so horrified over Gaza that he was considering not voting until he realized Trump would not help that situation.

Rogan listeners are not a monolith of human thumbs.

 

 

Side note we should start a surly supplement grift.  If the dude that hosted a show to make people eat bugs can sling "Alpha Brain"- anything is possible.

 

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2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

1) The Harris rally was epic. It seems like it broke through the noise for her in a way that nothing else really has this month. 

That's as attributable to this being a Texas board as anything else. Beyonce always helps though.

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This is my first time to venture into the cloak room, so have patience with me, please.  What I'm trying to understand is all the positivity for Harris and her chances in this thread, yet the sportsbooks/betting markets, and Wall St / European stock markets all appear to be pricing in a Trump victory.  Seems like that shouldn't be ignored?

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19 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

Polls have sample sizes of hundreds or a couple of thousand. Early voting has sample size of millions. It’s not theoretical or speculative. All polling is based on modeling from past elections. There has never been a gender gap like this in turnout. If Harris wins by a surprising number, this will be why pollsters didn’t see it coming.

Those are good numbers in general and excellent numbers in the Rust Belt + GA. I've never paid close attention to the gender breakdown of the electorate, so I have no idea if we should expect that gap to close on or leading up to election day. NV is gone but it's the least important swing state.

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1 minute ago, Ravishing Rick said:

This is my first time to venture into the cloak room, so have patience with me, please.  What I'm trying to understand is all the positivity for Harris and her chances in this thread, yet the sportsbooks/betting markets, and Wall St / European stock markets all appear to be pricing in a Trump victory.  Seems like that shouldn't be ignored?

Betting markets are able to be manipulated. There's lots of crypto money pouring in for Trump because they want him to win. Wall St bakes in plenty of stuff like rate cuts. This is no different. You're putting a lot of credibility into speculative markets. Markets don't vote. Enthusiastic people do. Who has the enthusiasm gap right now?

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