2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[RomaVicta 29902]

14 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

Jesus Christ--is this what a Yale education gets you these days?

London hasn't felt like an English city in 300 years.  It's an Imperial capital.  It feels like an Imperial capital.  It has felt like an Imperial capital for three centuries.  When you land at Heathrow, you land alongside flights from the Subcontinent, from the Caribbean, and from the Antipodes.  Then when you take the Elizabeth Line in, you're going to be next to people from right across the old Empire.  And when you get into town, you'll get some kick-ass Chinese, Jamaican, and Pakistani food--all because many of those families came to London when London was still their capital, too.

For its part, New York isn't "American."  It was a Dutch colony.  Actually, it was an enterprise of the Dutch East India Company.  And the Company didn't give a fuck whether you came from the Netherlands or England or Italy.  The Company didn't care whether you were Protestant or Catholic or Jewish or Muslim or nothing in particular.  The Company cared that you would be economically beneficial for New Netherlands.  These weren't religious zealots like you had up in Boston.  New York has always been multicultural from the moment it was founded--intentionally so.

 

Do they seriously not teach this shit at Yale anymore?

That's a MAGA nightmare.

They're at the airport. They're on the trains. The city stinks of their weird food. And you can't even walk around with your AR or Glock for protection (or to render medical aid if you're Rittenhouse). It's hell. 

[hookem2010 2623]

4 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

This thread is about the only data point (using that term facetiously) I have for hopium at this point. All other anecdotal evidence in my real life signals a Trump win, even while living in an ostensibly blue bubble like Manhattan. Hope the sentiment/AI on this thread prevails, but I’m expecting 4 years of shit.

Solution: Don't have a real life.  

I've been at home with a newborn the last few weeks, consuming less NPR, interacting with fewer people, generally holing myself up in bed/on the couch while visiting this thread with an alarming amount of frequency. And I feel GREAT! 

[Bozo_Casanova 26436]

8 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

This thread is about the only data point (using that term facetiously) I have for hopium at this point. All other anecdotal evidence in my real life signals a Trump win, even while living in an ostensibly blue bubble like Manhattan. Hope the sentiment/AI on this thread prevails, but I’m expecting 4 years of shit.

Let's imagine your team has a one point lead and it's jump ball with 5 seconds on the clock. What about that signals the other team winning?

[SimonBolivar 10957]

8 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

This thread is about the only data point (using that term facetiously) I have for hopium at this point. All other anecdotal evidence in my real life signals a Trump win, even while living in an ostensibly blue bubble like Manhattan. Hope the sentiment/AI on this thread prevails, but I’m expecting 4 years of shit.

Welcome to the club, we're planning a trip down Guyana way. I'm bringing the Flavor Aid.

[David Dennison 18849]

7 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

If he's elected it won't be just 4 years. Your best case is somehow democracy isn't dismantled during his term, but the project 2025 and economic damage will take decades to recover from...and he's going to dismantle democracy. 

He'll need a lot of help from passive Democrats.

[SimonBolivar 10957]

2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

He'll need a lot of help from passive Democrats.

I'm not sure he will to be honest. Calvinball in the courts makes the legislative branch redundant. 

[Constant 6723]

I’m ready for this tension to be over. 

[David Dennison 18849]

Just now, SimonBolivar said:

I'm not sure he will to be honest. Calvinball in the courts makes the legislative branch redundant. 

I'm not talking about legislators.

[Valmy77 13225]

Just now, Constant said:

I’m ready for this tension to be over. 

Yeah. Rather an end with bullshit than bullshit without end.

[Bozo_Casanova 26436]

2 minutes ago, Constant said:

I’m ready for this tension to be over. 

 

[Gatorubet 30185]

21 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

A non-exhaustive list of chelators 

Finally with rfk in charge we will be able to get our hands on water, carbohydrates, and fats. 

Especially dead bear fat. Much better than those New Zealand muscles we keep hearing about.

['stache 21795]

I’ve enjoyed Kill Tony clips on YouTube but he’s always the worst part of any bit, just endless sarcasm, and his tamer race jokes never feel like their coming from a place of genuine satire, which is how other comedians make race humor work. His audience always felt overwhelmingly bro so I guess it makes sense. Since his huge crowds are probably 90% maga anyway I’m sure there will be zero repercussions. He’ll have one of his Black regulars stand up for him and he’ll play the “Black friend” routine. And like his type always does I bet he triples down on it in his next few shows, selectively going after individual Latin American countries. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26436]

[Reynolds Woodcock 4739]

8 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Let's imagine your team has a one point lead and it's jump ball with 5 seconds on the clock. What about that signals the other team winning?

In that imaginary scenario I’d probably feel good, but I’m not convinced that’s the correct framing of the situation. But again, I’m not out here analyzing and unskewing polls and EV data, so I hope you all turn out to be right. 

[Gatorubet 30185]

19 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Cool, Elmo.  Name some of those "principles" and "teachings."  Truly, I wanna hear that.

Actually, it’s more a concept of a principal and teaching. 

[Red Five 40837]

5 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

uh huh

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/trump-was-serious-about-trading-hurricane-stricken-puerto-rico-greenland-n1237336

[Pancho 44705]

Here they go 

 

[Tuco 5076]

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“…our position throughout this campaign has been consistent: Mexico is full of rapists, Africa is full of shithole countries, and Ukraine doesn’t exist. We are still working on our Puerto Rico position; should be out in two weeks.”

[Dahobbs 17525]

32 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Well, don't read Sushi Horn's post on the election lab thread. Becuase I'm about ready to drink bleach. 

Has that guy ever been right about anything?

[G650 14235]

16 minutes ago, Constant said:

I’m ready for this tension to be over. 

So much this

[Goredho 17394]

19 minutes ago, Constant said:

I’m ready for this tension to be over. 

Username unfortunately checks out.

[Fudge Nuggets 19188]

24 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Let's imagine your team has a one point lead and it's jump ball with 5 seconds on the clock. What about that signals the other team winning?

The fact I can never have nice things and my teams almost always find a way to blow it.

[Bozo_Casanova 26436]

1 minute ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

In that imaginary scenario I’d probably feel good, but I’m not convinced that’s the correct framing of the situation. But again, I’m not out here analyzing and unskewing polls and EV data, so I hope you all turn out to be right. 

I'm not unskewing anything. I'm just looking at the data and applying what we know on top of it. 
1) It's a dead heat in the 7 battlegrounds
3) She has more paths to win
4) She has better GOTV
5) She probably has higher enthusiasm. 

That doesn't mean she wins, but the confidence right now on the Republican side is totally unjustified and could wind up being costly. 

[Jive Turkey 12594]

5 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Here they go 

 

Portland, Oregon?  that's clearly ANTIFA.  /large Marge

[G650 14235]

Just now, Bozo_Casanova said:

ght now on the Republican side is totally unjustified and could wind up being costly. 

The Nazi rally last night doesn't indicate they had a great last second play drawn up, that's for sure.

[BevoAbyss 2058]

35 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Let's imagine your team has a one point lead and it's jump ball with 5 seconds on the clock. What about that signals the other team winning?

Better yet. Imagine UT trails by 5 in the national championship game, with 45 seconds left in the game. Longhorns have the ball on the opponent's 10-yard line, with a first down, 4 shots to win, with QE as QB and Sark calling the plays. Plus, we all remember the Washington game last year.

Speaking for myself, I have near-zero confidence Texas scores to win the title.

(If VY is the QB, I am 100% confident and already celebrating the title.)

Edited October 28 by BevoAbyss

[hookem2010 2623]

12 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Here they go 

 

Wonder why Rs want to turn all ballots into the much more difficult to manipulate paper variety 🤔 

[Snake Diggity 4619]

56 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Also I can’t believe some of y’all think I’m AI. That is so funny.

Yes, someone pointed me to the discord where yall talked about me 😂

This is exactly what AI would post.

[Aqua Buddha 14582]

11 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I'm not unskewing anything. I'm just looking at the data and applying what we know on top of it. 
1) It's a dead heat in the 7 battlegrounds
3) She has more paths to win
4) She has better GOTV
5) She probably has higher enthusiasm. 

That doesn't mean she wins, but the confidence right now on the Republican side is totally unjustified and could wind up being costly. 

6.  There is not one data point since Dobbs that suggests Trump is going to win.

[C-Man 27185]

This is a great read: https://geneweingarten.substack.com/p/courage-and-cowardice?fbclid=IwY2xjawGLoDRleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHSfB3ULecV1Ekq3eo0kk8T8sOLHGhP9HcPQulyD00yoystsWdsKU1jvetg_aem_X-Z-F9zuCBDULia5mWwF1g

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Hello.

I once met Katharine Graham at an intimate dinner party with five or six other people in her Georgetown mansion. It was early 1992 and the presidential primary season was just beginning. On the Democratic side, the field was still wide open; there were no obvious front-runners. Mrs. Graham sat mostly quietly at the table, making dainty small talk. The others of us — possibly trying to impress her; I know I surely was — discussed politics as knowledgeably as we could. Various theories were raised as to who the candidate would be. There was no consensus. There was no shortage of half-baked theories. Finally, at a break in the argument, Mrs. Graham said faintly, almost demurely, “It will be Clinton, I think.”

She knew. Suddenly, we all knew she knew.

Katharine Graham was a monumentally great leader. She had the hallmark only great leaders have: When she said something, you listened intently, not out of obeisance or fear for your job but because of respect for the person. When she made a decision, you might agree or disagree with her, but you never doubted, even for an instant, that the decision was made with integrity and without self-interest. That is not something a leader can demand, through power; it is something earned, through actions. It inevitably accompanies a commanding strength of character.

On June 18, 1971, The Washington Post began publishing the Pentagon Papers at a time of extraordinary tension between the media and Richard Nixon’s occultly corrupt government. The decision had been made the day before by the only person with the power to do it: Katharine Graham. Printing the stolen material was possibly a felony. The New York Times had just been enjoined by a court from publishing the documents. It was not unlikely that Nixon’s Justice Department would seek criminal penalties from The Post for breaching that order.

During a dinner party at the same Georgetown mansion, with the very survival of her newspaper at stake — the government wielded enormous economic power over the media, particularly through licensing of their broadcast affiliates — Mrs. Graham considered a few moments, then gave the order in five two-word bites: “Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Let’s go. Let’s publish.” When her lawyers warned her that the government might come after the editors with subpoenas for the papers, and they might face prison for refusing to cough them up, she ordered that the documents be delivered to her house, so she and she alone would be the one to defy the subpoena. Let them put an old grandmother in jail, she said.

A half decade later, in the midst of the Watergate mess, this happened: Awakened from a drunken sleep by Carl Bernstein, John Mitchell, the former attorney general of the United States, listened to Bernstein read the lede of yet another devastating story that would appear in the next day’s Post. “JEEESUS!” Mitchell screamed. “Katie Graham is gonna get her tit caught in a big fat wringer if that’s published.” The story was published, of course, and for years afterward, Mrs. Graham wore a specially-made necklace with two charms on it: A tit and a wringer.

My God, Katharine Graham had one hell of a pair of ovaries.

On July 17, 2001, when Mrs. Graham died after a fall on the street, her employees walked the halls of the Washington Post building, tearful.

Jeff Bezos has earned billions in his life, but he will never earn that.

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Today, The staff at The Post is shocked and angry and demoralized. You know why. This nation is facing a decision so critical that its survival as a democracy may well be at stake. Obviously, people are confused: Otherwise, the polls would not be in a dead heat. Guidance from a trusted source could help.

The purpose of an editorial department of a newspaper is to write opinion pieces — sometimes signed op-eds, and sometimes editorials, which carry no byline but represent the imprimatur of the newspaper itself. You may feel these are silly or inappropriate or a vestigial remnant of an earlier, simpler time in journalism. But the fact is that a large staff of hard-working, knowledgeable people are employed to do this, and they treat their job seriously. Editorials have, indeed, moved public opinion. Fearless editorials — such as those during the civil rights movement, written in defiance of literal threats of death — have helped change history. It takes real courage to speak the truth to power.

Yesterday, The Washington Post, at the direction of its owner Jeff Bezos, showed jaw-dropping institutional cowardice. It declined to support a candidate in the upcoming election which is — let’s be blunt — between good and evil. Bezos almost certainly ordered it because he was intimidated by the threats posed to his financial empire through vengeance from Donald Trump, a man who aims to dismantle the will of the people. Bezos did not want to incur Trump’s wrath.

In his statement, publisher William Lewis, a Rupert Murdoch protege, lied nakedly about what had happened, and why. He said the newspaper made its choice in order to “return to their roots”, to reset itself to a prior, better, more genteel time when The Post declined to endorse presidential candidates.

If you think that’s even remotely true, you are the idiot he takes you for.

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There is such a thing as moral authority. It may be intangible, but it is there, and it can be powerful. It is essential to newspaper opinion writing. The Washington Post owner flushed it down the toilet yesterday. What is left is invertebrate.

This action has damaged everyone, not the least of whom are the dedicated, talented employees of The Post, whose careers are likely now diminished because, well, do they work for a great newspaper anymore? They are like homeowners whose neighborhood suddenly gets a pig slaughterhouse. All the home values are diminished.

In the one or two days before the election, expect to read a banal, obligatory piece in the Post — most newspapers do it — urging everyone to vote, for the sake of civic responsibility. Why should you believe it from The Post, now? The hypocrisy is thick and gooey. This is a newspaper that looked at the stark, existential choice facing the country, with the people in fear, and decided to sit this one out. They’re not voting. Why should you?

 

[LCHorn 2615]

12 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

That doesn't mean she wins, but the confidence right now on the Republican side is totally unjustified and could wind up being costly. 

To add on to this, to the extent that such a thing can be orchestrated, the GOP is working overtime to convince their constituents that Trump WILL win.  I’m not a conspiracy theorist (the rumor there is this is to set in motion support for post loss election fraud claims, as in “how could we lose if all the polls said we were winning?!?!”) but elites in the party are clearly repeating it.  

[immamac 42835]

I want to know who the new Trump voters are. No one has explained that to me. 

[Chuckie Finster 22694]

3 hours ago, Js1 said:

NYT has Trump +10 in Texas (lol no) but Cruz only +4

Also Harris +12 in NE-02 and only -4 in NE-01

 

This sent me down a rabbit hole, indulge me for a second.

In 2020, there were ten Senate races decided by 10 points or less: Arizona, Colorado, Georgia*, Iowa, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, New Mexico, North Carolina, and Texas.  Trump underperformed the Senate candidate in 8 of the 10 races.  In Arizona, he overperformed by 2.1% points and in Iowa he overperformed by 1.6%.

There is zero historical evidence, none, to show Trump is capable of consistently running ahead of a competitive Senate race - let alone by the 5+ points that we are seeing in some of these polls.

[mdmost 42999]

1 minute ago, immamac said:

I want to know who the new Trump voters are. No one has explained that to me. 

Apparently black men, Hispanic people, and union people. Only one of those 3 seems reasonable. 

[Gatorubet 30185]

52 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

If he's elected it won't be just 4 years. Your best case is somehow democracy isn't dismantled during his term, but the project 2025 and economic damage will take decades to recover from...and he's going to dismantle democracy. 

if he’s elected, sure.  If the Supreme Court plays Calvin Ball, and put him in office???   you might just see some of that patriot blood watering the tree of liberty you’ve heard tell about.

[immamac 42835]

There is also historical evidence that shows when you shit on people and talk shit directly to them at rallies they may just not vote at all or vote for kamala. 

Studied have also shown when you call Puerto Rico a floating garbage island that those people don't vote for you. 

What do I know though. 

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

 

 

[Gatorubet 30185]

11 hours ago, BevoAbyss said:

And 99% of the football Surly-BON posters love being in the SEC SEC SEC. 

It's a fucking fascist confederacy conference. 

 

judging from the last several decades of Texas politics, you guys are a perfect fit.

[Hank Kingsley 20904]

Trolling has become a living, breathing, and reactionary personality trait for deeply insecure people in this country. What used to just infect message boards and social media is now a part of real life interactions. 

 

[TexEx15 17509]

4 minutes ago, immamac said:

Studied have also shown when you call Puerto Rico a floating garbage island that those people don't vote for you. 

What do I know though. 

To be fair it feels like we are in uncharted territory here…. /s

[Hank Kingsley 20904]

4 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

 

Burn the polling business to the ground. 

 

[C-Man 27185]

Fuck Nick Bosa too: https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/28/sport/nick-bosa-donald-trump-hat-49ers-cowboys-spt-intl/index.html

49ers lineman Nick Bosa crashes teammates’ interview to show support for Donald Trump with MAGA hat

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San Francisco 49ers star Nick Bosa crashed his teammates’ postgame interview on Sunday to show his support for former President Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election with a hat emblazoned with Trump’s slogan: Make America Great Again.

Following the 49ers’ 30-24 victory over the Dallas Cowboys, 27-year-old Bosa interrupted the postgame interview with Brock Purdy, George Kittle and Isaac Guerendo by jogging between Purdy and NBC’s Melissa Stark before pointing to the message emblazoned on the front of his hat and then running away.

“All right, Nick Bosa with a message there,” Stark said as Bosa jogged off camera.

Speaking to reporters afterward and wearing a different hat, Bosa declined to elaborate on the moment.

“I’m not going to talk too much about it, but I think that it’s an important time,” the four-time Pro Bowler said when asked about what he did. The presidential election between Trump, a Republican, and Vice President Kamala Harris, a Democrat, is on November 5 – a little more than a week after Sunday night’s game.

CNN has reached out to the NFL about their policy on players making political statements.

Related articleSan Francisco 49ers’ Nick Bosa reportedly becomes highest paid NFL defensive player ever

Bosa’s mom, Cheryl, appeared to support her son’s message, reposting a user’s Instagram Story of the moment with the message, “(Cheryl Bosa) you raised your boy right!! #BOSAFORTRUMP.”

Bosa and Trump have long been connected, even before he was drafted by the 49ers with the second overall pick of the 2019 NFL Draft.

During his time at Ohio State, Bosa had previously taken heat for some old political tweets, including tweets supporting Trump and a tweet where he called Colin Kaepernick, a former 49er, a “clown.” Bosa apologized for the remark, according to an NFL.com article from 2019.

“I respect what (Kaepernick’s) done,” Bosa said at a news conference after being drafted in 2019. “If it empowers anybody, then he’s doing a good thing. I apologize for that.”

Kaepernick started the movement of NFL players kneeling for the “Star-Spangled Banner” to protest police brutality and racism. Trump railed against Kaepernick and other protesting players and called on the NFL to take punitive measures against them. Kaepernick later filed suit against the NFL, accusing teams of colluding to keep him from playing, and settled earlier this year, according to his attorney.

Bosa has since deleted the tweets, which ESPN said included the criticism of Kaepernick, as well as Beyoncé and the movie “Black Panther.” When asked in an ESPN interview why he deleted the posts, Bosa said, “I had to.”

“There is a chance I might end up in San Francisco,” Bosa said.

Upon Bosa being drafted into the NFL, Trump offered his support for the defensive end.

“Congratulations to Nick Bosa on being picked number two in the NFL Draft. You will be a great player for years to come, maybe one of the best. Big Talent! San Francisco will embrace you but most importantly, always stay true to yourself. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” Trump posted at the time.

 

[TexEx15 17509]

Just now, Hank Kingsley said:

Trolling has become a living, breathing, and reactionary personality trait for deeply insecure people in this country. What used to just infect message boards and social media is now a part of real life interactions. 

 

This! It used to be extremist idiots online. Now it is an entire major political party. 

[wildcat09 29345]

28 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I'm not unskewing anything. I'm just looking at the data and applying what we know on top of it. 
1) It's a dead heat in the 7 battlegrounds
3) She has more paths to win
4) She has better GOTV
5) She probably has higher enthusiasm. 

That doesn't mean she wins, but the confidence right now on the Republican side is totally unjustified and could wind up being costly. 

Projecting false confidence is what fascists pretty much always do. They never have the numbers but they know that if they pretend that they do, some people will preemptively surrender to them.  The question is will enough preemptively surrender to enable them to eek out a win.

[immamac 42835]

My wife's grandfather ordered all kinds of Trump knives and coins and whatever. Republican his whole life. 

After January 6th he was pissed. Said Trump was a coward and a loser. 

He changed his vote. To tell me that so many people have stories like this and I have yet to meet a single person who was like yeah Jan 6 made me vote for the first time ever for Trump. There's just no fucking way that's a thing, and if it is I need someone to show me some data supporting anything like that. 

This is on top of Dobbs, I haven't seen a single person who wasn't already a fucking magatard excited to vote for abortion bans, there's quite a few people I know who were older women who were single issue abortion voters who realize how fucked things are now and aren't voting for more insane policies. They wanted no abortions, they didn't want women to be sex/baby slaves. 

Show me the evidence that there is a swell of NEW people who actively are energized by whatever the fuck this hate campaign is. They already had those votes and they are entrenching themselves there so they don't lose them. Moving more extreme alienates the moderates, of which there are a lot. There aren't more extremists. Defectors from the Republican party are real and measurable. Where are these so called new trump voters coming from? 

[SimonBolivar 10957]

5 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

judging from the last several decades of Texas politics, you guys are a perfect fit.

It's not like those of us left behind are in any better of a spot.

TX, OK, WV, KS, UT, FL, OH, and IA

 

I guess AZ and CO are cool, for now.

[Chuckie Finster 22694]

3 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Trolling has become a living, breathing, and reactionary personality trait for deeply insecure people in this country. What used to just infect message boards and social media is now a part of real life interactions. 

 

Anthony Jeselnik has a comedy style that many people would compare to that Hinchcliffe guy, however he does a good job here IMO of explaining the difference between edgy comedy and trolling. 

 

 

[wildcat09 29345]

1 minute ago, immamac said:

My wife's grandfather ordered all kinds of Trump knives and coins and whatever. Republican his whole life. 

After January 6th he was pissed. Said Trump was a coward and a loser. 

He changed his vote. To tell me that so many people have stories like this and I have yet to meet a single person who was like yeah Jan 6 made me vote for the first time ever for Trump. There's just no fucking way that's a thing, and if it is I need someone to show me some data supporting anything like that. 

This is on top of Dobbs, I haven't seen a single person who wasn't already a fucking magatard excited to vote for abortion bans, there's quite a few people I know who were older women who were single issue abortion voters who realize how fucked things are now and aren't voting for more insane policies. They wanted no abortions, they didn't want women to be sex/baby slaves. 

Show me the evidence that there is a swell of NEW people who actively are energized by whatever the fuck this hate campaign is. They already had those votes and they are entrenching themselves there so they don't lose them. Moving more extreme alienates the moderates, of which there are a lot. There aren't more extremists. Defectors from the Republican party are real and measurable. Where are these so called new trump voters coming from? 

The Dobbs effect is far away the most under-reported story of this campaign. It's almost completely ignored by our political media, because all of the editors are old white men. 

[Pancho 44705]

 

[Chuckie Finster 22694]

1 minute ago, immamac said:

My wife's grandfather ordered all kinds of Trump knives and coins and whatever. Republican his whole life. 

After January 6th he was pissed. Said Trump was a coward and a loser. 

He changed his vote. To tell me that so many people have stories like this and I have yet to meet a single person who was like yeah Jan 6 made me vote for the first time ever for Trump. There's just no fucking way that's a thing, and if it is I need someone to show me some data supporting anything like that. 

This is on top of Dobbs, I haven't seen a single person who wasn't already a fucking magatard excited to vote for abortion bans, there's quite a few people I know who were older women who were single issue abortion voters who realize how fucked things are now and aren't voting for more insane policies. They wanted no abortions, they didn't want women to be sex/baby slaves. 

Show me the evidence that there is a swell of NEW people who actively are energized by whatever the fuck this hate campaign is. They already had those votes and they are entrenching themselves there so they don't lose them. Moving more extreme alienates the moderates, of which there are a lot. There aren't more extremists. Defectors from the Republican party are real and measurable. Where are these so called new trump voters coming from? 

I could probably make a case that the young white male "Rogan" crowd has increased over the last few years, but 1) that's probably the least reliable demographic (when it comes to accomplishing anything, not just voting) in the country and 2) no way it more than offsets stories like the one you present.