2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33687]

On 10/26/2024 at 8:33 PM, Stros121 said:

 

 

23 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Strong closing message.

 

 

 

 

hoo boy, that prediction went horribly wrong

[Gatorubet 29363]

2 hours ago, Scheiss Meister said:

Tell me you don't know shit about Oregon without telling me you don't know shit about Oregon.  The eastern half of Oregon is full blown maga.  It's not a long drive to do that and head back home.

back in the late 70s days when I lived in Washington state in the Tri-Cities area there was an urban legend that there was a town near Mount Bachelor ski resort that was filled with a Coven of witches.  

They probably trend Democrat

[TwiceHorn 30708]

2 hours ago, heso said:

Non college educated men 18-29 is the lowest voter turnout demographic by far. They are putting everything they can into trying to get them to vote.

And because they are mostly dumb shitbags, they don’t need a single policy to benefit those people. They just need to give them someone to mock. The single most common ad by far (at least in PA) is about tax payer funded gender affirming surgeries for trans inmates. Federal trans inmates is ~1200 people (don’t quote me on that but that’s the number I found when I tried to look it up). Based on Republican advertising, the single biggest issue in our country is whether or not gender affirming surgery is considered a medically necessary procedure for, at the absolute maximum, 1200 federal inmates. 

The closing line of that ad is really what it boils down to “Kamala Harris is for they/them. Donald Trump is for you.”

That what the entire message of the campaign is about. Not a single bit of substance of any kind. Just division. You are American and everyone that’s different from you is ruining your America. Anyone that represents them can’t possibly represent you. 

Thing is, they may well and truly entertain the dumb shitbags and get them decked out in MAGA gear and yelling a lot, but I think getting them off their ass to actually vote, this late in the game, isn't going to work out too well for them.

[Bateshorn 9410]

Just now, Gatorubet said:

back in the late 70s days when I lived in Washington state in the Tri-Cities Tri-Shitties area there was an urban legend that there was a town near Mount Bachelor ski resort that was filled with a Coven of witches.  

They probably trend Democrat

FIFY. 

[Gatorubet 29363]

2 hours ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

Danica Patrick voted for the first time ever and she's voting Trump. I think she is doing it because she's a fucking moron, but maybe there are also reasons related to January 6 and wanting women to not be able to vote just like she didn't vote for all of her life.

if you fucked Aaron Rodgers, you’re probably gonna vote Trump. Poor decision-making is usually a widespread thing

[TexasEd 8004]

1 hour ago, linux said:

Violence has a 0% chance of success, much less after Jan 6. His only shot is the ballot box, he does not have absolutely anything that can make him win in a coup, and I said this when he theoretically controlled the military 4 years ago, but he was a headless chicken back then, today he has project 2025 plan drawn up by the neo nazis.

The violence is to feed his ego 

[Js1 82105]

5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Thing is, they may well and truly entertain the dumb shitbags and get them decked out in MAGA gear and yelling a lot, but I think getting them off their ass to actually vote, this late in the game, isn't going to work out too well for them.

I'm curious how many are even registered.  Gonna go well - not many. Unless they live in a state with AVR or can register up until E-Day, they have to get off their ass and register and likely missed it. 

And you have to get them to show up.  With your lack of ground game. 

Edited Monday at 06:49 PM by Js1

[Satchel 6885]

3 hours ago, Texas Jeff said:

So 6% of Texans the NYT polled were like:

Pollster: So how are you feeling about Trump?
Voter: I am all aboard the Trump Train ... love me some Trump!

Pollster: And what about Ted?
Voter: Holy crap not that guy again, who's he running against?

I’d be surprised if Trump matches his 2020 vote margin of 6%. For Colin, victory is within reach.

[Pancho 41624]

 

[Gatorubet 29363]

5 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

back in the late 70s days when I lived in Washington state in the Tri-Cities area there was an urban legend that there was a town near Mount Bachelor ski resort that was filled with a Coven of witches.  

They probably trend Democrat

4 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

FIFY. 

So - you’ve been there…

[TeeDubya 3267]

6 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

FIFY. 

 

1 minute ago, Gatorubet said:

So - you’ve been there…

What a shithole.  You two aint lyin'. 

[Biff Tannen 44893]

@Js1 What was the legislation passed that would stop the House from refusing to certify?  Or am I making that up?  My buddy is worried they aren't going to certify.

[Dahobbs 17042]

1 minute ago, Pancho said:

 

I intervened in Hotze's lawsuit over drive thru voting. Fuck that guy and his attorney, who I assume is Woodfill again. 

[henrygandorf 28582]

you can buy contracts now, but they pay off…in january?

what’s going to happen in january to alter the results?

[BurntOrange&White 38679]

1 hour ago, Jive Turkey said:

It’s why Nick Bosa was sporting his MAGA on SNF. Trying to get young white men who watch football but don’t vote to vote for Trump. 

 

 

 

 

[linux 1369]

Don't worry about that shit dude it is insignificant in the grand scheme of things, by that point it is an open GOP coup and anti coup meassures take place. This was a legit worry if Trump controls the military though.

1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

@Js1 What was the legislation passed that would stop the House from refusing to certify?  Or am I making that up?  My buddy is worried they aren't going to certify.

 

[Satchel 6885]

4 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

This is strategy all over the country; to pretend victory is assured and then sue when they lose.

[texasdago 7369]

Take it with a boulder of salt...

[Js1 82105]

5 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

@Js1 What was the legislation passed that would stop the House from refusing to certify?  Or am I making that up?  My buddy is worried they aren't going to certify.

First off, any legislation has to also pass the Senate and be signed by Biden - ain't gonna happen.

Secondly, new Congress is sworn in January 3 - and any lingering rules a GOP House passed would be quickly undone by Speaker Jeffries if the Dems win the House, prior to the certification on January 6.

@Bateshorn can back me up - the biggest thing is that unless the GOP retains the House, ain't shit gonna happen.  Though I am sure the requisite number of House members needed to challenge (87) a State's electoral votes, but you also need 20 Senators, and you can't just challenge because of vibes.

Edited Monday at 06:58 PM by Js1

[Biff Tannen 44893]

3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

 

 

God, NFL players are just as bad as their fans.

[Biff Tannen 44893]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

the biggest thing is that unless the GOP retains the House, ain't shit gonna happen

Isn't this a distinct possibility though?

[Js1 82105]

2 minutes ago, texasdago said:

Take it with a boulder of salt...

Well the NYT found Trump's lead in NE-01 to be 4 points.  It was drawn to be a Trump 54-43 district. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13240]

7 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

 

4 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

I intervened in Hotze's lawsuit over drive thru voting. Fuck that guy and his attorney, who I assume is Woodfill again. 

Always remember that Hotze was the guy who convinced a private investigator to hold an AC repair guy at gunpoint in 2020 because they thought there were ballots hidden in his repair truck. For some unknown reason, I assume Ogg, the case has not gone to trial yet. Almost 4 years now.  https://archive.ph/LnKv0

Hopefully Hotze is someday convicted and has his MD license suspended.

 

[kevwun 15131]

2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Isn't this a distinct possibility though?

It doesn't look to be likely.  Control of the House and Senate are probably going to to flip flop.

Edited Monday at 07:02 PM by kevwun

[Js1 82105]

3 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Isn't this a distinct possibility though?

The problem is we don't have a lot of House polling, but we have a lot of insider-y info that the GOP is starting to triage races to save others.  Which means things aren't going well. And Dems are dropping money into races that were borderline tossup territory because the internal polling shows them competitive. 

Off the top of my head, there's something like 3 or 4 flips in CA, 1 or 2 in AZ, 2 auto pickups in LA/AL, 1 in PA, 2 or 3 in NY, 1 or 2 in Iowa.  Enough to offset the automatic 3 pickups in NC for the GOP off the new maps. 

The GOP only has a 4 seat lead to work with.  Add in the NC flips, it is 7.  

And there are always surprises on Election Night in House races.  Because they don't get polled a lot.  

But we have seen really good leads for House candidates in fringy districts like NM-02, both NH races, CO-08, etc.  Places you would expect to be tossup-y if the GOP was going to keep the House. 

Edited Monday at 07:04 PM by Js1

[heso 2540]

14 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I'm curious how many are even registered.  Gonna go well - not many. Unless they live in a state with AVR or can register up until E-Day, they have to get off their ass and register and likely missed it. 

And you have to get them to show up.  With your lack of ground game. 

PA voter registration deadline was last Monday 10/21. 

Mail in ballot request deadline is tomorrow. 

[Firemans4Horn 16816]

5 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

God, NFL players are just as bad as their fans.

 

[henrygandorf 28582]

but if he loses one more time, these people will all suddenly have spine implant surgery?

[Js1 82105]

Just now, heso said:

PA voter registration deadline was last Monday 10/21. 

Mail in ballot request deadline is tomorrow. 

Hence why it is not the strongest play electorally to rely on the worst voting demographic.  There has not been a ground game to get them registered in time in a lot of states.  They can't just show up and vote for Trump if they didn't do the work first. 

[Js1 82105]

Jen O'Malley Dillon said today (or maybe yesteday) that it is going to be close, but they are seeing what they want to see in the data/numbers/early vote and Harris is going to win.

Edited Monday at 07:08 PM by Js1

[flatdawgs 1183]

13 minutes ago, TeeDubya said:

 

What a shithole.  You two aint lyin'. 

lol. Ugliest part of a decidedly not ugly state. Also the heart of MAGAland in WA - central WA is more conservative than the Palouse to the east, mostly due to Whitman County (Pullman/WSU) normally going blue. A Democrat didn't even make the general election in central WA's congressional district,  which includes the Tri-Shitties and Moses Hole.

[Bateshorn 9410]

21 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

So - you’ve been there…

 

19 minutes ago, TeeDubya said:

 

What a shithole.  You two aint lyin'. 

Yeah man.  I had to visit Hanford a couple of times. Eastern WA fucking sucks. 

Edited Monday at 07:11 PM by Bateshorn

[G650 13042]

I had to drive into Spokane once from Montana. Yikes.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 18269]

20 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Wasn't Hotze indicted?

[Nice Guy Eddie 13240]

Is eastern Oregon always trying to redraw the state maps so that they're in Idaho? no one is stopping you from moving to Idaho if that is your wish. 

[Bateshorn 9410]

21 minutes ago, Js1 said:

First off, any legislation has to also pass the Senate and be signed by Biden - ain't gonna happen.

Secondly, new Congress is sworn in January 3 - and any lingering rules a GOP House passed would be quickly undone by Speaker Jeffries if the Dems win the House, prior to the certification on January 6.

@Bateshorn can back me up - the biggest thing is that unless the GOP retains the House, ain't shit gonna happen.  Though I am sure the requisite number of House members needed to challenge (87) a State's electoral votes, but you also need 20 Senators, and you can't just challenge because of vibes.

This is correct. In fact, The first thing you do after you swear in a new Speaker is pass the rules package for the new Congress. The reforms also make it impossible for state legislatures to appoint electors after the election. 

Edited Monday at 07:20 PM by Bateshorn

[MidTexHorn 768]

1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I can't imagine being a middle or high school teacher right now dealing with the male students constantly saying some MAGA comments all day. I'm sure they're giggling while repeating the rally comments about Puerto Rico and Hispanic immigrants not pulling out.

I know my own limitations and realize that I wouldn't make it a year without smacking the crap out of some mouthy kid. 

My wife is an elementary school counselor in SW austin and has regular issues with 5th grade boys making racist “monkey” comments. My 5th grade nephew in Buda had a bunch of his friends get in trouble for calling his black female friend an N word.  So of course  the school’s gender reassignment protocols have been implemented to change those attitudes. 

[Biff Tannen 44893]

1 minute ago, Bateshorn said:

This is correct. In fact, The first thing you do after you swear in a new Speaker is pass the rules package for the new Congress. 

So, to the first point from @Js1, the House wouldn't be able to unilaterally say "we aren't going to certify", even if it remains under R control?

[Firemans4Horn 16816]

Just a special “Fuck You” to Mike Lindell Johnson. Stop watching your son wack off you fucking weirdo. 

[Pancho 41624]

 

[henrygandorf 28582]

big fan of “this you?” tweets. obviously. 

[texasdago 7369]

You know... why are we not talking about the fact that the audience that laughed at the "floating island of garbage" joke literally lives on a floating island of garbage?

 

Edited Monday at 07:24 PM by texasdago

[Js1 82105]

3 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

So, to the first point from @Js1, the House wouldn't be able to unilaterally say "we aren't going to certify", even if it remains under R control?

They’re required by law to perform the duties and the House doesn’t control it. They can all vote against it but Mike Johnson has no control over his caucus. 

[Royalfan5 2196]

21 minutes ago, texasdago said:

Take it with a boulder of salt...

If NE-1 goes blue, I would assume there are going to be whole string off shocking blue wins. I'm saving my vote in NE-1 for day off though. 

[TexasEd 8004]

21 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Hence why it is not the strongest play electorally to rely on the worst voting demographic.  There has not been a ground game to get them registered in time in a lot of states.  They can't just show up and vote for Trump if they didn't do the work first. 

They’re not going to vote. They’re recruiting for the violence. 

[Bateshorn 9410]

12 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

This is correct. In fact, The first thing you do after you swear in a new Speaker is pass the rules package for the new Congress. The reforms also make it impossible for state legislatures to appoint electors after the election. 

Also, the revisions to the Electoral Reform Count Act makes it very hard for Congress to reject electors, and if they do, rather than triggering the disputed elections clause (and thus throwing the election into the House), it just reduces the total number of electoral votes and thus the threshold for gaining a majority.  Now that could cause some fuckery, but again, it is very unlikely now that two sets of electors could be presented and cause a dispute. For once, Congress did something right.  

Edited Monday at 07:31 PM by Bateshorn

[Fudge Nuggets 18811]

3 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

I'm shocked that you'll hand wave away the horrific act itself, and what it represents, and focus on the final outcome.

I’m not shocked. He’s a complete piece of shit. 

[Js1 82105]

3 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

For once, Susan Collins did something right.  

fify, because it was her bill with Manchin

[Pancho 41624]

Yup, hilarious!

 

 

 

[SimonBolivar 10645]

37 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

you can buy contracts now, but they pay off…in january?

what’s going to happen in january to alter the results?

about to place that emotional hedge bet real quick...