2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[South Austin 52453]

2 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

One Week out, RNC Chair Michael Watley is "cautiously optimistic."

And now take a deep breath and prepare your mind to be blown
 

  Reveal hidden contents

"Donald Trump [is] building a common-sense coalition. That’s why we have RFK Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, Elon Musk."

 

[Aqua Buddha 14582]

4 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Still would, even though it would probably turn out like having sex with a cold piece of plywood.

She was on Bill Maher and is still legitimately hot but too crazy even for Maher.

Beware of the crazy nookie.

[G650 14242]

4 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

Did not expect that

[jimmyjazz 45888]

9 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Still would, even though it would probably turn out like having sex with a cold piece of plywood.

I draw the line at "cold".

[Brisketexan 105066]

8 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

"Donald Trump [is] building a common-sense coalition. That’s why we have RFK Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, Elon Musk."

Let me put that in terms we all can understand: "Immamac is building a common-sense coalition of Helobious, Derka, TxTow, and Mr. Phlegm to be the brain trust of Surly."

[cactusflinthead 27598]

I voted for Nikki Haley in the Feb. 27 primary in part to move the Republican Party past Donald Trump. She received 296,200 votes — 27 percent of the primary votes — at a time when it was clear that Trump was likely going to be the party’s nominee. Many of those 296,200 voters will not vote for Trump on Tuesday; I am one of them.    

Donald Trump and JD Vance don’t advocate for the values of the Republican Party I once knew.

https://www.lansingcitypulse.com/stories/i-was-the-director-of-the-michigan-republican-party-i-will-vote-for-kamala-harris,115386

 

Edited October 29 by cactusflinthead

[cactusflinthead 27598]

 

[Js1 85275]

13 minutes ago, G650 said:

Did not expect that

That’s terrible for Trump, Trafalgar is one of his best pollsters 

[Baboontyme 2809]

6 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

I voted for Nikki Haley in the Feb. 27 primary in part to move the Republican Party past Donald Trump. She received 296,200 votes — 27 percent of the primary votes — at a time when it was clear that Trump was likely going to be the party’s nominee. Many of those 296,200 voters will not vote for Trump on Tuesday; I am one of them.    

Donald Trump and JD Vance don’t advocate for the values of the Republican Party I once knew.

https://www.lansingcitypulse.com/stories/i-was-the-director-of-the-michigan-republican-party-i-will-vote-for-kamala-harris,115386

 

Super clean website that citypulse. I clicked on it so the rest of you do not have to. The rest of that quote is pretty outstanding. Why is it so fucking hard to understand? 

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Donald Trump and JD Vance don’t advocate for the values of the Republican Party I once knew.  

Rather than promoting trade with the rest of the world, they embrace protectionism and across-the-board tariffs that will make working families pay more for everyday goods. Harris is focused on targeted, strategic tariffs.  

 

Trump has no fiscal discipline. He added $8 trillion to the debt during his first term. Every time he gives a campaign speech he promises a new handout to a different group. I don’t agree with all of Harris’ economic policies, but she is more fiscally disciplined than Trump.

Trump and Vance thrive on xenophobia and blaming immigrants for all of our problems, rather than coming up with sensible, conservative solutions to serious issues like rising housing costs. Though I may disagree with some of her policy solutions, at least Harris is proposing ideas to fix our problems.  

Rather than promote a strong Reaganesque foreign policy, Trump and Vance admire dictators and want to abandon Ukraine and our NATO allies. 

 

Trump promised an auto manufacturing boom and failed to deliver. Factories closed under Trump; auto factories are being built under Harris. 

Trump and his allies have done grave damage to the Republican Party — both in Michigan and nationally.  If we ever want our Republican Party back, it has to start with Donald Trump losing on Nov. 5.  That’s why I’m voting for Kamala Harris.

(Gary Reed was executive director of the Michigan Republican Party from 1992 to 1995.)

 

[Gil Bang 25918]

6 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

My financial advisor has been telling me for 9 years that a Democratic victory is going to ruin the stock market. Wrong every time so far. But for all the credit given to "Wall Street" and their prescience, you'd think they'd be overwhelmingly preaching the Biden/Harris polices to teh high heaven. We've got our soft landing, the stock market is booming, manufacturing is on the rise thanks to their policies, and everyone is fucking making money. And yet, they still favor Trump.

At some point, you have to question if these people are deliberately tipping the scales against their best corporate interests. I guess their stock/bonus at the end of the year trumps corporate profits thanks to the Tax cuts...

why wouldn't you fire this idiot? 

3 hours ago, Pancho said:

JV is going on Rogan tomorrow

am I out of touch because I had no idea who "JV" is?  (until previously answered). 

[Captainant 27637]

44 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Portland being a suburb of Mesa….fucking clown

Maybe he drove into Portland ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ ͡⁠°⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ͡⁠°⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[The Dog 44019]

Anecdotal but we know a wife of a GOP voter who isn't telling her husband her intention to vote for Harris. We know another couple who are getting divorced over this. 

Anyone who thinks this isn't a thing is in denial and needs an education.

[SydneyCarton 48054]

Just now, Gil Bang said:

why wouldn't you fire this idiot? 

am I out of touch because I had no idea who "JV" is?  (until previously answered). 

He's been a close friend for a # of decades. A lot of my circle use him. And as I said before, I generally dictate what I want, and he only handles a very conservative area of my portfolio. So basically, it's hard for him to fuck up. And in my experience with people in finance and personal wealth, they ALL fucking say the same shit. 

[Tuco 5076]

3 minutes ago, Baboontyme said:

Super clean website that citypulse. I clicked on it so the rest of you do not have to. The rest of that quote is pretty outstanding. Why is it so fucking hard to understand? ....

Trump and his allies have done grave damage to the Republican Party — both in Michigan and nationally. 

If I recall correctly, the Michigan Republican Party was taken over by the idiot MAGA faction and has run it into the fucking ground.  They have either expelled or repulsed the old guard and have basically bankrupted the state party.  This endorsement is about Harris, but is also an attempt to regain control of the state Party.  I applaud both. 

 

 

[BrickHorn 18216]

37 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

lot of fuckery going on 

“Classic Antifa move.” - @Incredulity, probably.

[Chuckie Finster 22694]

am I out of touch because I had no idea who "JV" is?  (until previously answered). 

I know people (jokingly?) said Verlander, but the person going on Rogan is JD Vance.

[Js1 85275]

3 minutes ago, Tuco said:

If I recall correctly, the Michigan Republican Party was taken over by the idiot MAGA faction and has run it into the fucking ground.  They have either expelled or repulsed the old guard and have basically bankrupted the state party.  This endorsement is about Harris, but is also an attempt to regain control of the state Party.  I applaud both. 

 

 

You’re correct. Michigan and AZ GOP parties are bankrupt and broken. That’s what happens when you let people like Kristina Karamo and Kellie Ward take over 

[chainsaw 9857]

2 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

I know people (jokingly?) said Verlander, but the person going on Rogan is JD Vance.

they should know by now to keep this fucker far away from podcast microphones but they really can't help themselves

[tx ind 7007]

40 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Still would, even though it would probably turn out like having sex with a cold piece of plywood.

She's on the MAGA hate fuck Mt. Rushmore with Habba, Boebert, and Ivanka.

[Pancho 44710]

If turnip loses (when?) next week, will the R party split into two going forward? the maga wing and the “we are normal republicans” wing?

 

[Hermanator 7032]

Looking at this from just a common sense perspective...

In 2020 Biden beat Trump pretty handily. Enough so that anyone who wasn't trying to overthrow the election knew all the trump stuff was bullshit. 

Since then trump has initiated an insurrection, stolen classified information and potentially sold it to our enemies, been arrested and charged in a multitude of federal and state crimes, been tried and convicted in NY or 34 felonies, has had almost everyone who worked in his administration either get arrested or call him a fascist, and has gone all out cranking the racism and fascism up to 11. 

Meanwhile, the country's economy under Biden/Harris has been strong, there have been no major scandals, no major disasters, no recessions or depressions, and every day American life is pretty much stable post pandemic. 

Nothing points to a close race. I think the vast majority of voters are just tired and fatigued by the nonsense and want no part of polling. 

[WelfareBuysMyWeed 5388]

1 minute ago, Pancho said:

If turnip loses (when?) next week, will the R party split into two going forward? the maga wing and the “we are normal republicans” wing?

 

If Trump loses, this could be one of those generational swings in american politics. I could see the MAGA republicans breaking off into their own Newsmax world.

[G650 14242]

Just now, WelfareBuysMyWeed said:

If Trump loses, this could be one of those generational swings in american politics. I could see the MAGA republicans breaking off into their own Newsmax world.

God willing and the creek don't rise

[dieucla98 2942]

2 minutes ago, Pancho said:

If turnip loses (when?) next week, will the R party split into two going forward? the maga wing and the “we are normal republicans” wing?

 

This is what we thought may happen after 2012 Obama with the Tea Party. Instead, it just created MAGA.

[Gil Bang 25918]

12 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

I know people (jokingly?) said Verlander, but the person going on Rogan is JD Vance.

Fuck, I fell for it. 

OTOH, is Pancho paying by the fucking keystroke?  Put "JDV" and an idiot like me can figure it out, but "JV"???

[SimonBolivar 10957]

3 minutes ago, WelfareBuysMyWeed said:

If Trump loses, this could be one of those generational swings in american politics. I could see the MAGA republicans breaking off into their own Newsmax world.

We should give them Oklahoma & Wichita Falls as a parting gift.

[Js1 85275]

3 minutes ago, dieucla98 said:

This is what we thought may happen after 2012 Obama with the Tea Party. Instead, it just created MAGA.

Yeah but the Tea Party absolutely hurt the GOP for a while in downballot races. Think Sharron Angle and Christine O’Donnell. 

[Captainant 27637]

2 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

Fuck, I fell for it. 

OTOH, is Pancho paying by the fucking keystroke?  Put "JDV" and an idiot like me can figure it out, but "JV"???

I mean, "JV" seems a pretty appropriate moniker to me

[Nice Guy Eddie 13509]

4 hours ago, HenryJames said:

What a Crackdown on Immigration Could Mean for Cheap Milk - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

 

Even though the Idaho dairy association lead says that a crackdown on illegal workers will end dairy production in Idaho, I bet he still votes Trump. He will tell himself that Trump isn’t talking about their production workers or that it’s just hyperbole. Then when Stephen Miller’s brown shirts come for the workers, the Idaho dairy farmers will ask and receive a handout from Trump for being a loyal state.

[The Dog 44019]

3 minutes ago, Pancho said:

If turnip loses (when?) next week, will the R party split into two going forward? the maga wing and the “we are normal republicans” wing?

 

 

2 minutes ago, WelfareBuysMyWeed said:

If Trump loses, this could be one of those generational swings in american politics. I could see the MAGA republicans breaking off into their own Newsmax world.

Trump must leave the stage. He's the glue holding it together.

When that happens, who takes over? Does Laura stick around and continue to siphon off money to the family, or do they leave and find their next grift?

Until we know either of these things the GOP is stuck with MAGA.

[TeeDubya 3362]

11 minutes ago, Pancho said:

If turnip loses (when?) next week, will the R party split into two going forward? the maga wing and the “we are normal republicans” wing?

 

Interesting.  In 2016, I wondered if a third party would rise from a Democratic Party Schism. 

Yet, it's 2024, and here we are, looking at the Great GOP Schism.  Fuck the GOP.
 

[Hank Kingsley 20906]

JD Vance does not deserve an abbreviation. It's too bad we already gave Vulvarine to Ted Cruz, because it fits perfectly for Vance as well. 

[kevwun 15764]

The GOP will get rid of Laura Trump as soon as Trump is gone.  They know what she's doing and it was only done to humor Trump.  They are going to stop the money siphon as soon as they can.

Edited October 29 by kevwun

[Underdog 28576]

I take JV as meaning Junior Varsity Trump.

[C-Man 27187]

Joe Rogan told Trump to Hire Racist Comedian to ‘Write Bangers’

https://apple.news/A3soPdI1zSX2TcrH6R-OkBw

[Pescado_Rojo 19413]

9 minutes ago, WelfareBuysMyWeed said:

If Trump loses, this could be one of those generational swings in american politics. I could see the MAGA republicans breaking off into their own Newsmax world.

The MAGA Republicans ARE the Republicans now. There are a lot of people I would have called "chamber of commerce" Republicans prior to 2016, but those people have gotten really, really comfortable saying the quiet parts out loud over the past 8 years. It's going to have to be the Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney types that split off and start a new party. Will they take enough people with them to keep MAGA out of power until all the olds die off? That's the real question. 

[ultimaton 2966]

8 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

Fuck, I fell for it. 

OTOH, is Pancho paying by the fucking keystroke?  Put "JDV" and an idiot like me can figure it out, but "JV"???

Probably just playing it safe, Vance could change his name three or four times before he sits down with Rogan.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13509]

1 minute ago, kevwun said:

The GOP will get rid of Laura Trump as soon as Trump is gone.  They know what she's doing and it was only done to humor Trump.

Before Laura walks out, all of the RNC paperwork gets burned and the email/data gets deleted. And those left behind will be reminded of the NDAs to the Trump family and the penalties for violating them.

[Js1 85275]

Jance Dance Vance

['stache 21795]

1 hour ago, HenryJames said:

She's always fucking mad.

Maybe someone should tell her to smile more.

[wood 11225]

1 hour ago, Captainant said:

continues to bottle the mind how anyone could really believe that trumpco didn't fully endorse the joke - the fuckin thing was on the teleprompter!

100%. Nobody who's ever seen/heard Tony Hinchcliffe would ever put him out there as the lead speaker if that's not the tone you were trying to set in the first place. That was no accident. It was exactly what they wanted.

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

5 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

The MAGA Republicans ARE the Republicans now. There are a lot of people I would have called "chamber of commerce" Republicans prior to 2016, but those people have gotten really, really comfortable saying the quiet parts out loud over the past 8 years. It's going to have to be the Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney types that split off and start a new party. Will they take enough people with them to keep MAGA out of power until all the olds die off? That's the real question. 

It started before 2016. The original MAGA, the tea party started it. MAGA just kicked it in warp speed. 
 

best thing for democrats to do is continue to go more moderate and pull in the ostracized traditional/fundamental republicans to their side. It would allow the most party growth and ability to take house/senate. 

[dieucla98 2942]

11 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Yeah but the Tea Party absolutely hurt the GOP for a while in downballot races. Think Sharron Angle and Christine O’Donnell. 

Don't we think that is happening now? Boebert nearly got ousted in 2020 in a very red district, Cruz is up against it (again)... NC is about to flip (fingers crossed and I realize this is gov related largely). GA did flip. Maybe it's not the same magnitude but this feels somewhat analogous. 

[Dnaguy 11920]

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

One Week out, RNC Chair Michael Watley is "cautiously optimistic."

And now take a deep breath and prepare your mind to be blown
 

  Reveal hidden contents

"Donald Trump [is] building a common-sense coalition. That’s why we have RFK Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, Elon Musk."

 

This just seems like a shitty C level Legion of Doom.

Elon is a a weirder version of Lex Luther.

Tulsi is Cheetah? Catty as fuck.

And I guess RFK jr is a Bizarro Kennedy?

 

Edited October 29 by Dnaguy

[tx 3 putt 76870]

50 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

 

this should be 15 years federal time, automatic 

[Hank Kingsley 20906]

Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

best thing for democrats to do is continue to go more moderate and pull in the ostracized traditional/fundamental republicans to their side. It would allow the most party growth and ability to take house/senate. 

 

These people have sided with a wannabe dictator. If Kamala wins, they can move to the fucking left or stay with whatever monstrosity follows Trump. 

 

 

[Chewbacca 7767]

21 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

Fuck, I fell for it. 

OTOH, is Pancho paying by the fucking keystroke?  Put "JDV" and an idiot like me can figure it out, but "JV"???

JV is a nickname for Vance.  You know, he's not good enough to be on varsity...

[Chewbacca 7767]

15 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

Trump must leave the stage. He's the glue holding it together.

When that happens, who takes over? Does Laura stick around and continue to siphon off money to the family, or do they leave and find their next grift?

Until we know either of these things the GOP is stuck with MAGA.

Trump isn't willingly leaving politics until he's dead.  There's too much money there.

[wildcat09 29346]

5 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

best thing for democrats to do is continue to go more moderate and pull in the ostracized traditional/fundamental republicans to their side. It would allow the most party growth and ability to take house/senate. 

The fuck it is. Dem policies are wildly popular and Republicans and their policies are horrible. All Dems need to do is keep pointing out what deranged freaks Republicans are and they'll get all the voters who don't love the deranged shit.

[Chewbacca 7767]

7 minutes ago, dieucla98 said:

Don't we think that is happening now? Boebert nearly got ousted in 2020 in a very red district, Cruz is up against it (again)... NC is about to flip (fingers crossed and I realize this is gov related largely). GA did flip. Maybe it's not the same magnitude but this feels somewhat analogous. 

Boebert would have been ousted had she stayed in CD-3.  Instead, she got a lifeline because of Ken Buck's retirement.  Otherwise she'd be out on her ass in a week.