2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[Hank_Hill 18,793]

1 hour ago, quigley said:

Sorry. I was wrong. Nobody cares what Biden thinks.

Umm. Is Fox News reporting on it supposed to be a surprise to anyone with a brain? 

[MonkeyDoughnut 10,229]

What Trump has done to this country....

Snipers at counting centers. WTF

 

 

[Fudge Nuggets 19,189]

4 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

But they aren't in power, and the most they can do is decertify/toss ballots from red states which...lowers the threshold for Kamala.

Don’t work that way. You still have to hit 270 no matter what. 

[Valmy77 13,225]

48 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Well, they are garbage, so there's that. 

Maybe. But he still didn't say that.

Stupid non-scandal.

[Fudge Nuggets 19,189]

8 hours ago, BamaATL said:

Short of starting WW3, in the next week Biden can say or do just about anything without there being a single bit of impact on any of this.   

In thinking of my earlier lame duck heel tour of red states, I thought about him stopping the Iron Bowl, with 7 minutes left in the 3rd quarter, just to do a 45 minute presentation on Medicare.  Fucking lean into it.  

If it’s only a 45 minute presentation he needs to wait until five minutes left in the game. In your scenario he would be wrapping it up right about the time the 4th quarter started. 

[Valmy77 13,225]

2 hours ago, quigley said:

Sorry. I was wrong. Nobody cares what Biden thinks.

I mean, he didn't call them garbage Fox News.

I guess I shouldn't expect any competency or honesty from the media. I presume comprehension and understanding of the English language and how it works is something Fox News possesses so they are misquoting him intentionally and dishonestly. Ridiculous.

[Fudge Nuggets 19,189]

8 hours ago, linux said:

The main disaster from the comment is that it takes away from the racist PR shit, had it happened two days from now it would have been less damaging, maybe some periphery MAGA now decides to vote but I don't think a single undecided will change.

You realize that Biden isn’t running, right?

[Dnaguy 11,920]

2 hours ago, quigley said:

Sorry. I was wrong. Nobody cares what Biden thinks.

Rubio is such a cuckold bitch.

per The NY Times:

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Within minutes of the clip of Mr. Biden’s remarks going viral on social media on Tuesday night, Senator Marco Rubio of Florida addressed Mr. Trump’s rally in Allentown, Pa., and informed the crowd of Mr. Biden’s statement.

“I have breaking news for you, Mr. President — you may not have heard this,” Mr. Rubio told the audience after Mr. Trump had called him up to the stage and stood next to him. “Just moments ago, Joe Biden stated that our supporters are garbage — are garbage.”

Mr. Rubio added, as the crowd booed and Mr. Trump shook his head: “He’s talking about the Border Patrol. He’s talking about nurses. He’s talking about teachers. He’s talking about everyday Americans who love their country and want to dream big again and support you, Mr. President.”

 

[956 Worldwide 34,702]

I really hope that Kamala wins and then Biden does an Oval Address on Thanksgiving to clarify that he does think Trump supporters are garbage and that he is thankful for everyone but them. 

[Fudge Nuggets 19,189]

6 hours ago, Hermanator said:

So what happens if the Supreme Court, which has already shown favoritism towards trump with the ridiculous immunity bullshit, goes along with his legal coup attempt? What happens then? 

Someone will be filling at least five SCOTUS seats their first day in office. That’s what happens. 

[DigglerontheHoof 21,178]

Did the Dipshit have his Pennsylvania rally last night?

[Shaddie 1,651]

The most important lawsuit in USA history is going down in Reno NV. If the siblings that want to tone down Fox News win this country has a chance. 

[SimonBolivar 10,957]

Man that sucks. I bet that Trump supporters won't vote for Kamala now.

[Anastasis 23,463]

Live lookin at Joe last night. 
 

[Js1 85,275]

7 hours ago, Hermanator said:

think Harris wins. But on election night Trump will declare victory. Trump supporters in government from Trump states will refuse to certify and try to send alternate electors. The case will go to the supreme court. That's when the tipping point gets tested. 

Wrong wrong wrong 

Electoral Count Reform Act dictates that Congress may only accept electors sent by the certifying authority (governor or SOS in most cases) from the states 

Wisconsin, Michigan, PA, AZ, NC have Dem governors 

MI, WI, PA, AZ, NV have Dem SOS and Georgia has one that is not MAGA

Electoral Count Reform Act has been law since 2022 and not challenged at SCOTUS 

[TwiceHorn 31,438]

7 hours ago, mdmost said:

Democrats aren't going to fuck around with lawyering this time either

Democrats didn't fuck around with lawyering last time either.  Republicans did.  One of the scarier things may be that they don't this time, but I'm not sure there are any Elias-caliber lawyers available to them.

[Bozo_Casanova 26,437]

6 hours ago, Chopper said:

Can you imagine what 75,000 people could do at the Capitol? (Jan 6 had 20k less)

Fewer

[bejezuz 329]

8 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Wrong wrong wrong 

Electoral Count Reform Act dictates that Congress may only accept electors sent by the certifying authority (governor or SOS in most cases) from the states 

Wisconsin, Michigan, PA, AZ, NC have Dem governors 

MI, WI, PA, AZ, NV have Dem SOS and Georgia has one that is not MAGA

Electoral Count Reform Act has been law since 2022 and not challenged at SCOTUS 

Besides that, I don't think Roberts will go for it, and he should be able to convince at least one of Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, or ACB to go along with him.  Thomas and Alito, though, would sell out this country for Trump in a heartbeat. 

[Pancho 44,710]

 

[Js1 85,275]

Another losing message by a campaign that claims to be winning but isn’t 

[immamac 42,835]

I mean realistically what happens if Trump gets falcon punched and loses in a landslide? 

Does Biden immediately muzzle the guy? At some point you can't call it a politically motivated thing it's just shutting a crazy fucking guy up. You have to let his legal challenges occur, but do you really have to let him just run around acting a fool? 

Also how quickly does the Elon stuff happen? It's pretty obvious he's breaking all the laws at this point. 

[Chuckie Finster 22,694]

I mean realistically what happens if Trump gets falcon punched and loses in a landslide? 

Hopefully his heart gives out 30 seconds after the networks make the call.

[Pancho 44,710]

What exactly would/could Biden do?

[mdmost 42,999]

Biden wouldn't need to or shouldn't do a single thing if Trump loses in a landslide. That result would speak for itself. And Trump will still lose every court case he throws out. On Elon, I have a feeling that's happening regardless. 

Edited October 30 by mdmost

[Dahobbs 17,526]

2 minutes ago, Pancho said:

What exactly would/could Biden do?

Drone strike. 

[immamac 42,835]

Just now, Pancho said:

What exactly would/could Biden do?

That's my question. The answer of "nothing" is untrue. If Trump tries to incite violence or a riot I would hope they won't let that brew and shut it the fuck down immediately. There's a history with this person to prevent him from just doing it again. 

[Reynolds Woodcock 4,739]

3 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Democrats didn't fuck around with lawyering last time either.  Republicans did.  One of the scarier things may be that they don't this time, but I'm not sure there are any Elias-caliber lawyers available to them.

One problem Trump has on the legal front is that representing him is toxic for the big firms that have the elite practice groups he needs. Ted Olson ain’t walking through that door. Jones Day was about the only big shop that was willing to represent him, but I think I read an article that even they were sitting this one out.

[quigley 1,560]

1 hour ago, Hank_Hill said:

Umm. Is Fox News reporting on it supposed to be a surprise to anyone with a brain? 

 

1 hour ago, Valmy77 said:

Maybe. But he still didn't say that.

Stupid non-scandal.

 

1 hour ago, Valmy77 said:

I mean, he didn't call them garbage Fox News.

I guess I shouldn't expect any competency or honesty from the media. I presume comprehension and understanding of the English language and how it works is something Fox News possesses so they are misquoting him intentionally and dishonestly. Ridiculous.

 

1 hour ago, Dnaguy said:

Rubio is such a cuckold bitch.

per The NY Times:

 

@Dahobbs

Biden gave the GOP bulletin board material. I know Joe Biden is caring and humane. He's proven it throughout his life. I know he didn't say what Fox claims. But the NYT has it #3-4 on their page too, and it distracts from the true dehumanization that the GOP displays on a daily basis.

It was a mistake that the GOP will use to mobilize supporters. To think otherwise isn't acknowledging the obvious.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,509]

1 minute ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

One problem Trump has on the legal front is that representing him is toxic for the big firms that have the elite practice groups he needs. Ted Olson ain’t walking through that door. Jones Day was about the only big shop that was willing to represent him, but I think I read an article that even they were sitting this one out.

Has Trump reserved the Four Seasons Landscaping parking lot for a Wednesday press conference? I’m not worried about his legal challenges until he makes that power move.

[quigley 1,560]

55 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Did the Dipshit have his Pennsylvania rally last night?

Yes, pretty much his basic stump speech so it sucked.

But Biden's stupid comment will dominate the headlines for the next 3 days.

[wildcat09 29,346]

3 minutes ago, quigley said:

Yes, pretty much his basic stump speech so it sucked.

But Biden's stupid comment will dominate the headlines for the next 3 days.

Knock this shit off you pussy.

[Pancho 44,710]

Lulz

 

[quigley 1,560]

2 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Knock this shit off you pussy.

I hope you're right, but the performance of the media over the last decade would argue against them focusing on the bigger picture.

[Js1 85,275]

2 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Lulz

 

Lol that’s barely half what’s been returned by mail. These people are too stupid to function 

Of the 584,116 statewide mail-in-ballots returned, 357,339 (61.2%) are Democrats; 120,540 (20.6%) are Republicans; 104,089 (17.8%) are unaffiliated and 2,148 (0.4%) are others.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,509]

Fair game to call Biden’s comments stupid because they were. Especially given the history of the Hillary and “basket of deplorables” fired up maga last time. Harris’ campaign has been relatively flawless at least in terms of unforced errors, and she doesn’t need Biden jumping in the last week to make mistakes.

i assume Biden is tired of holding his tongue and went undisciplined yesterday. Dude you can say whatever you want in 7 days. 

[Valmy77 13,225]

16 minutes ago, quigley said:

 

 

 

@Dahobbs

Biden gave the GOP bulletin board material. I know Joe Biden is caring and humane. He's proven it throughout his life. I know he didn't say what Fox claims. But the NYT has it #3-4 on their page too, and it distracts from the true dehumanization that the GOP displays on a daily basis.

It was a mistake that the GOP will use to mobilize supporters. To think otherwise isn't acknowledging the obvious.

It isn't a mistake, it is a misquote. A lie.

I mean if we are going to go that direction just start making AI deep fakes of Biden saying whatever.

[Evil Bill Obrien 3,260]

19 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Hopefully his heart gives out 30 seconds after the networks make the call.

With as many Double Quarter Pounders and McNuggets as he has put down this might not be the most unlikely outcome....

 

24 minutes ago, Pancho said:

What exactly would/could Biden do?

I would say find a window...but this would be much better:

[locodos 5,387]

10 hours ago, staboner said:

its unreal that we spend billions on this circus that is decided by a handful of countries across a huge country. just fucking embarrassing. 

rank choice voting

confine the election cycle to just 3 months

remove money from government

$9.95

congressional boundaries have to be simple geometric shapes comprised of straight lines with fewer than 6 sides.

8 hours ago, Xminus6 said:

That would have been amazingly prescient if there were Republicans for Harris signs in 2020.

The ultimate hipster

[Valmy77 13,225]

9 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Fair game to call Biden’s comments stupid because they were. Especially given the history of the Hillary and “basket of deplorables” fired up maga last time. Harris’ campaign has been relatively flawless at least in terms of unforced errors, and she doesn’t need Biden jumping in the last week to make mistakes.

i assume Biden is tired of holding his tongue and went undisciplined yesterday. Dude you can say whatever you want in 7 days. 

Obviously it would have been incredibly stupid for Biden to call Trump's supporters garbage.

I mean he didn't though. Does that matter?

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,509]

1 minute ago, Valmy77 said:

Obviously it would have been incredibly stupid for Biden to call Trump's supporters garbage.

I mean he didn't though. Does that matter?

Perhaps Harris can put together some commercials and go on podcasts saying that Biden mumbled and stuttered, and that it was a misquote. 

[Valmy77 13,225]

4 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Perhaps Harris can put together some commercials and go on podcasts saying that Biden mumbled and stuttered, and that it was a misquote. 

Probably can't do that. Defense is generally seen as a sign of weakness.

It is just a ridiculous situation. It is like me saying "I don't like Mike's car." and somebody just cutting off the end of the statement and then announcing to the world I just said "I don't like Mikes" and now everybody named Mike is offended. The media really is something else.

It is a propaganda win for them I guess, but if this sort of thing is allowed I do not see how it can be prevented. You can use misquotes and lies to say anything.

Edited October 30 by Valmy77

[quigley 1,560]

8 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

It isn't a mistake, it is a misquote. A lie.

I mean if we are going to go that direction just start making AI deep fakes of Biden saying whatever.

They already do that, eg Walz and student sexual misconduct. So them clipping what Biden said shouldn't surprise anyone.

Is it fair? No. But who said Fox was fair and balanced?

Just now, Valmy77 said:

Probably can't do that. Defense is generally seen as a sign of weakness.

It is just a ridiculous situation. It is like me saying "I don't like Mike's car." and somebody just cutting off the end of the statement and then announcing to the world I just said "I don't like Mikes" and now everybody named Mike is offended. The media really is something else.

I think he was being sarcastic.

[Royalfan5 2,353]

7 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Obviously it would have been incredibly stupid for Biden to call Trump's supporters garbage.

I mean he didn't though. Does that matter?

Lucky for me as someone not running for office, I can confidently say Trump supporters are garbage. 

[Goredho 17,395]

8 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

This is what an Afghan sees in our media. That is fucked up indeed. Kid is late 30's and kicking ass following the American dream. I would love it if he was my neighbor. Plus he can cook some damn fine bbq and his wife's bread is perfection. (I said bread you bastards, not breast.... )

Bread, check.  So, how's her breasts?

[Valmy77 13,225]

1 minute ago, quigley said:

I think he was being sarcastic.

Oh...

[Pancho 44,710]

19 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Lol that’s barely half what’s been returned by mail. These people are too stupid to function 

Of the 584,116 statewide mail-in-ballots returned, 357,339 (61.2%) are Democrats; 120,540 (20.6%) are Republicans; 104,089 (17.8%) are unaffiliated and 2,148 (0.4%) are others.

They are living in fantasy delusion thinking they will win both New Jersey and Virginia.

[Gandalfish 346]

1 hour ago, Valmy77 said:

I mean, he didn't call them garbage Fox News.

I guess I shouldn't expect any competency or honesty from the media. I presume comprehension and understanding of the English language and how it works is something Fox News possesses so they are misquoting him intentionally and dishonestly. Ridiculous.

Did you watch the actual video?

Biden called Trump supporters garbage.

Did he mean to? Uh, who knows? Speaking was never his strong suit, and his speech has rapidly gone downhill over the past four years.

Will this move the needle? I doubt it. America takes being talked down to better from a man.

[Hank Kingsley 20,906]

30 minutes ago, quigley said:

 

 

 

@Dahobbs

Biden gave the GOP bulletin board material. I know Joe Biden is caring and humane. He's proven it throughout his life. I know he didn't say what Fox claims. But the NYT has it #3-4 on their page too, and it distracts from the true dehumanization that the GOP displays on a daily basis.

It was a mistake that the GOP will use to mobilize supporters. To think otherwise isn't acknowledging the obvious.

Enough with the fucking concern trolling. He did not call Trump voters garbage, it's been shown on this thread it was taken out of context, the media is gonna do whatever they fucking want to get clicks. JFC. 

 

 

[Dbeasy 15,042]

NSIAP, because I love Pop:

 

Edited October 30 by Dbeasy

[Valmy77 13,225]

6 minutes ago, Gandalfish said:

Did you watch the actual video?

Biden called Trump supporters garbage.

I did. He didn't call them garbage. It was a possessive 's' not a plural one. He immediately says 'his' which is a singular pronoun referring to one person. And also a possessive. 

Because he was clearly talking about one of his supporter's actions.

I listened to what he had to say and we have a transcript. Both show he didn't do that.

If that matters to you.

Quote

Did he mean to? Uh, who knows? Speaking was never his strong suit, and his speech has rapidly gone downhill over the past four years.

Will this move the needle? I doubt it. America takes being talked down to better from a man.

Yeah gaffs were always his thing for sure. And his mumbling and bumbling about when talking didn't help him here.

Will it move the needle? I don't know. But it still annoys me.

Edited October 30 by Valmy77