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2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.


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9 hours ago, Pods said:

It's because Trump is embarrassing and uncouth and the Mormon Church is all about appearances. The majority of Mormons are still going to vote for him, they'll just do it quietly. 

I have a bunch of Mormon relatives. 4/5 Boomer generation are rabidly pro-Trump. Gen X/Y, 14/17 are rabidly pro-Trump. They're rural, so more comfortable with their vice signaling. 

There has been a significant exodus from the Mormon church over recent policies that relegate transgender members to second class citizens / lying to the SEC and covering up a $32 billion dollar investment fund / lying about Joseph Smith's polygamy, method of translation and history as a convicted "disreputable person" for treasure digging with the same rock he later claimed to translate the golden plates. 

The internet exposes what the church used to smother and hide. It's costing them a lot of members in the US. No one knows how many, but it's a lot and it's growing. The vast majority of ex-Mormons reject their Republican upbringing and vote Dem. 

Lol. "treasure digging." What, they are uncomfortable with the word "Grave Robbing?" That's the bridge too far. Also, how the fuck did the church lie about Smith's polygamy? It was...pretty fucking out in the goddamn open considering he had to re-align the entire "chruch" mid stream to make it happen. Fuck, Brigham Young hated the idea but he eventually fucking went whole hog for it as well. 

9 hours ago, Hermanator said:

Wisconsin. Georgia possibly. North Carolina. Arizona. 

Wisconsin has a Dem Sec of State and a Dem majority Supreme court now. Arizona has at the least a Dem SoS. North Carolina has a Dem. SoS. And Georgia's SoS and Governor told Trump to fuck off last time, as has the Republican Supreme Court of GA. 

8 hours ago, linux said:

Dude I have studied dozens of coup attempts, you need the military full stop for any of them to succeed.

I mean, Hitler's Coup Attempt after he muslced his way into Chancellor didn't REALLY involve the military. 

 

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22 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

I did. He didn't call them garbage. It was a possessive 's' not a plural one. He immediately says 'his' which is a singular pronoun referring to one person. And also a possessive. 

Because he was clearly talking about one of his supporter's actions.

I listened to what he had to say and we have a transcript. Both show he didn't do that.

If that matters to you.

Are we even watching the same video? 

I’m not going to change your mind, but I think most people will feel he called Trump supporters garbage.

At the least, it is not a crazy take and is not “made up by the stupid media”.

if anything, we should be angry about the false equivalency of Trump saying 1000 awful/stupid things and Biden saying 1. “Oh look, they are the same.” 🤡

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20 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Why on earth are we still talking about the garbage thing? It’s not gonna move the needle. Donald Trump will call Harris a mulatto or something today and knock it off the headlines 

Becuase Quigley has concerns, I guess. Of course, I'd argue that if they saw Biden's statement, it might secure more PR votes for Harris. 

Guys, this is it Biden called these people Garbage. It's over. Honestly, I'm surprised those 72k people in DC last night at Harris's rally didn't immediately go the fuck home. 

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9 minutes ago, Gandalfish said:

Are we even watching the same video? 

Maybe not, you might not be watching the video without the selective edit. 
That said, I don’t honestly care. It’s not great politics, but it’s also not going to cost her anything. 

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5 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

More fun from the liberal media.

 

Clickbait bullshit.  "It doesn't look good."  "They're really voting for Jill Stein."  Who the fuck is they?  Listen to Michigan.  How many are "they"?  Who fucking knows, but BE AFRAID.  Nobody gives a shit what Slate has to say anymore.

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25 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

It's honestly amazing that more of the racist shit from that rally isn't getting more buzz. Well, it should be anyway. Calling Kamala Samoan-Malaysian, like every brown person is the same and lesser? Tucker Carlson being in any way attached to a campaign should be a disqualified in and of itself.

C'mon.  It's funny because Kamala isn't white.

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1 minute ago, immamac said:

Biden has already issued a clarification shut the fuck up about it holy shit. 

I don't think it's a big deal. But Hilary also issued a clarification about "deplorables." Democrats can't unsay things like Republicans can.

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1 hour ago, quigley said:

 

 

 

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Biden gave the GOP bulletin board material. I know Joe Biden is caring and humane. He's proven it throughout his life. I know he didn't say what Fox claims. But the NYT has it #3-4 on their page too, and it distracts from the true dehumanization that the GOP displays on a daily basis.

It was a mistake that the GOP will use to mobilize supporters. To think otherwise isn't acknowledging the obvious.

you have articulated your simply wrong opinion several times. We get that you think that.  

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I mean, fuck, for 10 years we've been told that it doesn't matter what Trump does and it doesn't matter what he says. To the point that now people say they aren't voting for him when they cast their ballot for Trump, they're voting for "his policies". Whatever the fuck those are. Literally nothing he says or does matters to these people. He could promise to nuke a different US city every day and you'd get "Oh you can't listen to what he says...."

But Biden has a slip of the tongue and they all start yelling like it's the end of the world. Shut the fuck up. 

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Stop comparing this to basket of deplorables! 

That was uttered by Hillary on September 9, 2016 - which means she had 2 months of that being thrown back at her and having to walk it back. 

No one is changing their vote 6 days before the election, with 55 million votes already cast, based on what Biden said.  Not enough time to stick and not really that many undecided voters left. 

No one is really changing their minds at all at this point.  Everything is baked in, barring a Trump stroke/heart attack, basically. 

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Just now, Js1 said:

Stop comparing this to basket of deplorables! 

That was uttered by Hillary on September 9, 2016 - which means she had 2 months of that being thrown back at her and having to walk it back. 

No one is changing their vote 6 days before the election, with 55 million votes already cast, based on what Biden said.  Not enough time to stick and not really that many undecided voters left. 

Also him calling the people that called the people who are pissed off about being called garbage the garbage is not gonna do anything but provide oxygen for that already out of control wildfire 

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16 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Counter-subconscious espionage, if you will 

I don't know if he did it on purpose, but that could certainly be an effect. 🙏

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1 minute ago, Gandalfish said:

I don't know if he did it on purpose, but that could certainly be an affect. 🙏

That's absolutely what he was doing. He intentionally kicked the hornets nest he's just old and fell down and had to roll and then give it a little kick while on the ground. Lol

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11 minutes ago, immamac said:

He didn't unsay anything. He just said where the garbage was directed and it makes sense and isn't weird. Also fuck these people

Fucking this. If anyone brings this shit up at work today I'm laughing in their face. That's the attitude everyone needs to have about this bullshit.

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28 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

 

Becuase Quigley has concerns, I guess. Of course, I'd argue that if they saw Biden's statement, it might secure more PR votes for Harris. 

Guys, this is it Biden called these people Garbage. It's over. Honestly, I'm surprised those 72k people in DC last night at Harris's rally didn't immediately go the fuck home. 

Well, I watched it from my Condo and went and got another glass of wine, so you may be on to something. 

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7 minutes ago, Red Five said:

But Biden has a slip of the tongue and they all start yelling like it's the end of the world. Shut the fuck up. 

I'm not getting this reaction at all.  Hopefully you're saying shut the fuck up because you're in a shitty mood, and not shut the fuck up because people are disappointed in the "own goal".  Because it is an own goal.  Because double standard doesn't even come close to capturing how Dems are looked at vs. Republicans. 

A dem stutter or stammer is 1000 times worse than a republican racist remark.  You know that.  We all know.  And the remaining "undecided voters" aren't the brightest bulbs.

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