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35 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

 

I mean, Hitler's Coup Attempt after he muslced his way into Chancellor didn't REALLY involve the military. 

 

Beer Hall failed, and he was handed the chancellorship by Hindenburg after not winning enough seats in the Reichstag in the previous election, the handing over power despite losing is what people think will happen, it will never happen.

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1 minute ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

I'm not getting this reaction at all.  Hopefully you're saying shut the fuck up because you're in a shitty mood, and not shut the fuck up because people are disappointed in the "own goal".  Because it is an own goal.  Because double standard doesn't even come close to capturing how Dems are looked at vs. Republicans. 

A dem stutter or stammer is 1000 times worse than a republican racist remark.  You know that.  We all know.  And the remaining "undecided voters" aren't the brightest bulbs.

Literally shut the fuck up. 

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1 minute ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

I'm not getting this reaction at all.  Hopefully you're saying shut the fuck up because you're in a shitty mood, and not shut the fuck up because people are disappointed in the "own goal".  Because it is an own goal.  Because double standard doesn't even come close to capturing how Dems are looked at vs. Republicans. 

A dem stutter or stammer is 1000 times worse than a republican racist remark.  You know that.  We all know.  And the remaining "undecided voters" aren't the brightest bulbs.

He's not the nominee. It doesn't matter one bit.

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3 minutes ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

I'm not getting this reaction at all.  Hopefully you're saying shut the fuck up because you're in a shitty mood, and not shut the fuck up because people are disappointed in the "own goal".  Because it is an own goal.  Because double standard doesn't even come close to capturing how Dems are looked at vs. Republicans. 

A dem stutter or stammer is 1000 times worse than a republican racist remark.  You know that.  We all know.  And the remaining "undecided voters" aren't the brightest bulbs.

If “undecideds” are more offended by a response comment from Biden than the racist thing he was responding to they were trumpfucks to begin with.

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4 minutes ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

I'm not getting this reaction at all.  Hopefully you're saying shut the fuck up because you're in a shitty mood, and not shut the fuck up because people are disappointed in the "own goal".  Because it is an own goal.  Because double standard doesn't even come close to capturing how Dems are looked at vs. Republicans. 

A dem stutter or stammer is 1000 times worse than a republican racist remark.  You know that.  We all know.  And the remaining "undecided voters" aren't the brightest bulbs.

I don't know what this means. The people who have spent the last decade telling us it doesn't matter what their candidate does or says need to stop clutching their pearls over this and shut the fuck up.

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2 minutes ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

I'm not getting this reaction at all.  Hopefully you're saying shut the fuck up because you're in a shitty mood, and not shut the fuck up because people are disappointed in the "own goal".  Because it is an own goal.  Because double standard doesn't even come close to capturing how Dems are looked at vs. Republicans. 

A dem stutter or stammer is 1000 times worse than a republican racist remark.  You know that.  We all know.  And the remaining "undecided voters" aren't the brightest bulbs.

It’s only the case because dems  clutch their pearls at their own gaffes and republicans don’t.  And the Pubs/MAGA flood the zone with so much insane shit the media has just given up where if Biden slurs himself into a maybe it was/wasn’t insult of MAGA it’s some kid of big deal.  Stop pearl clutching and apologizing and stand behind it/ignore it.  Give it no oxygen and give the faux outrage to statement’s like Biden’s no oxygen. 

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Can we stop pretending that this election hinges on what Biden says or whether Harris goes on Rogan.  Her campaign is clearly more competent.  

If she loses, it's because America prefers Trump's vision. 

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Smithley posted a poll yesterday of PA-08, where Trump leads by 3.  It was redrawn to be a ... Trump +3 district (would have beaten Biden in the redrawn 8th, 50.9-48).

Suggests that Harris is not slipping much (at all?) in NEPA.  It is an R+4 district and the incumbent, Cartwright (D), leads by 7.  He only won in 2022 by 2.5.  

Again, the district level polls of PA look really good for Harris - she's either matching Biden or exceeding him in the suburban districts.

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26 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Because of Palestine

Didn't see this article wrt portland and WA ballot box fires posted. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/29/us/ballot-box-fires-oregon-washington-gaza.html

Investigators responding to arson fires at two ballot boxes in the Pacific Northwest this week found devices at both scenes marked with the words “Free Gaza,” according to two law enforcement officials.

Investigators are trying to determine if the perpetrator was actually a pro-Palestinian activist or someone using that prominent cause to sow discord, one of the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the investigation was ongoing. But the message has added a heightened layer of political sensitivity to a closely watched investigation in the final days of a tense presidential election.

The fires both occurred early Monday within a short time of each other in Portland, Ore., and just across the state line in Vancouver, Wash.

The “Free Gaza” message appeared not only on the two devices, which were discovered on Monday, but also on a device found at a third ballot box this month in Vancouver, according to the law enforcement officials. That device also had the words “Free Palestine” on it.

Officials said at a news conference that they believed all three events were linked. They later released surveillance images of a suspect vehicle, asking for the public’s help in identifying the person driving a dark, early 2000s Volvo.

“There was enough evidence collected at all three scenes that lead us to believe that all three incidents are connected, and we cannot get into more detail,” Mike Benner, a spokesman for the Portland Police Bureau, said on Monday.

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1 hour ago, quigley said:

Yes, pretty much his basic stump speech so it sucked.

But Biden's stupid comment will dominate the headlines for the next 3 days.

Nothing is dominating the headlines for 3 days.  If you go listen to a Pod Save America podcast from last Friday it’ll feel like it was recorded 4 years ago.  The media barrage of everything is a fire hose right now, it’s like everyone is on cocaine.  

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Just now, A-Tex Devil said:

It’s only the case because dems  clutch their pearls at their own gaffes and republicans don’t.

I haven't read all the threads here.  I don't see the comments made about being an own goal as any different than when some were saying that Waltz had a shitty answer when asked about his trips to China and T. Square.  He should have had a better answer.

It's clutching at pearls when you suggest that someone made a needless gaffe?

It's obvious who's losing their shit over the last couple of pages.  

 

 

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So after having had to read Facebook posts by a MAGA idiot for the last two weeks (a company owner too) I finally just personally messaged him, posted the Popovich video and asked what went wrong in his life that he now can’t to figure out he’s being conned. It felt good. One fewer dumb friend in my life, or maybe there’s a .01% chance he starts thinking for once. 

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PA firewall:

380k/390k (D/R)
446.5/500k (D/R/indie)

Yesterday was the end of early in-person voting in PA, so all that is left is traditional collection of mail-ballots until Tuesday, so that firewall will have a chance to grow without any in-person voting. 

And yes, Smithley does think the GOP cannibalized a good chunk of their E-Day vote. 

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It's an own goal in the sense it didn't have to happen and Biden remains a gaffe machine, as he has been his entire life.  This is why Harris has kept him off the campaign trail.  But it won 't mean shit in the grand scheme of things.  

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1 hour ago, quigley said:

 

 

 

@Dahobbs

Biden gave the GOP bulletin board material. I know Joe Biden is caring and humane. He's proven it throughout his life. I know he didn't say what Fox claims. But the NYT has it #3-4 on their page too, and it distracts from the true dehumanization that the GOP displays on a daily basis.

It was a mistake that the GOP will use to mobilize supporters. To think otherwise isn't acknowledging the obvious.

and if it gets 1000 new Trump votes from morons who care about that, it’ll be swamped by the hundred thousand Puerto Rican Harris votes that came about because of the garbage supporters’ comments.   It’s like you’re upset because Trump held a klan rally and Biden called one of the speakers a racist.   OH GOD NO!!! WE LOST!!

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2 minutes ago, linux said:

Trump is freaking out about Pennsylvania in truth social is also very welcome news.

I’ve never felt better about PA than Trump flipping out about it on Truth Social. 

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4 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Biden's comment was an own goal that is overshadowing Harris' speech. Don't try to whitewash it.

can you tell us exactly what demographic is going to be pouring to the polls because of this who weren’t going to be voting otherwise?

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Kamala said she is a gun owner and will fucking shoot you if you come in her house. She's repeatedly said she isn't coming for anyone's guns. 

She entirely took away the 2nd amendment single issue voters away so much so Trump didn't even stump at nra. 

They are left with defending the very fucking clearly unpopular choice to ban abortion and make women sex slaves and their entire offense has been a fucking own goal on immigration because it's well known Trump fucked it and reiterated by everyone including Republicans that he fucked it and trans hate. 

Its the worst and weakest campaign in the history of modern politics. 

Kamala has run the strongest 100 day campaign in modern politics except term 1 Obama and even that is up for debate. 

 

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1 minute ago, Gatorubet said:

can you tell us exactly what demographic is going to be pouring to the polls because of this who weren’t going to be voting otherwise?

If they had doubled down then maybe but Harris said she never consider any voter garbage blah blah blah, the people that will be outraged this morning even after all the correction already voted.

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18 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I don't know what this means. The people who have spent the last decade telling us it doesn't matter what their candidate does or says need to stop clutching their pearls over this and shut the fuck up.

No shit. Those mother fuckers have been saying “fuck Joe Biden” for years and he basically says “hey, fuck you too”, and they fall apart. 
He’s right, they are garbage. Maybe if society had been tougher on those knuckle dragging pieces of shit ten years ago for being so deplorable they might have been shamed in to taking a hard look at themselves. 

20 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I don't know what this means. The people who have spent the last decade telling us it doesn't matter what their candidate does or says need to stop clutching their pearls over this and shut the fuck up.

No shit. Those mother fuckers have been saying “fuck Joe Biden” for years and he basically says “hey, fuck you too”, and they fall apart. 
He’s right, they are garbage. Maybe if society had been tougher on those knuckle dragging pieces of shit ten years ago for being so deplorable they might have been shamed in to taking a hard look at themselves. 

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8 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

The thing about the Tea Party is that the GOP subverted it fairly quickly, through Dick Armey/FreedomWorks and all that Koch Brothers money (while also using the Tea Party to steer the GOP).

They didn’t subvert the Tea Party. They created it. That was textbook astroturfing. 

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19 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Smithley posted a poll yesterday of PA-08, where Trump leads by 3.  It was redrawn to be a ... Trump +3 district (would have beaten Biden in the redrawn 8th, 50.9-48).

Suggests that Harris is not slipping much (at all?) in NEPA.  It is an R+4 district and the incumbent, Cartwright (D), leads by 7.  He only won in 2022 by 2.5.  

Again, the district level polls of PA look really good for Harris - she's either matching Biden or exceeding him in the suburban districts.

I have a hot take.

Harris will significantly outperform Biden in the Philly burbs.  Maybe be double digits.

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5 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

can you tell us exactly what demographic is going to be pouring to the polls because of this who weren’t going to be voting otherwise?

there are still late undecideds out there (believe it or not). while it shouldn't hurt Harris, it doesn't help.

 

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7 minutes ago, linux said:

People are stressed about his "hidden card" or that he will contest the election, I am never more relieved in my life!

Fascist playbook is to project power when you don’t even it. 

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