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So far, the media is asking turnip surrogates about biden’s remark then they follow up with turnip saying America is a garbage can.

Now the Virginia news about turnip and his team (Supreme Court) suppressing votes 6 days before the election, that is what’s being talked about 

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8 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Yeah, I know, they can't win without MAGA, but if they aren't winning with MAGA, then either the country club Republicans join the Democrats and try to get some power for themselves, or they take control of the RNC by swaying a large enough chunk of the 168 voters to boot Lara out, or they take their ball and start a new party. They ain't going to sit on their asses for another four years while Trump drools on himself and anoints Donald Jr. as his successor, all the while RNC coffers continue to empty into Trump bank vaults.

The bolded is EXACTLY what they are going to do, because 1) it is actually the best play they have available, and 2) they are gutless cowards, so they were going to pick that play regardless of whether it was the best play.

There is only one viable strategy for the GQP to get past Trumpism.....wait for Dotard to die.  Dotard will anoint Don Jr., but he doesn't have anywhere close to the juju that daddy has, and he can easily be bought off.  The GQP actually CAN co-opt and control Don Jr., because he's an easily manipulated moron with a very low ceiling.  That's the play.

3 hours ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

What Trump has done to this country....

Snipers at counting centers. WTF

This is the essence of the GQP.  This is where they have brought us.  They are a terrorist movement, and should be treated as such.  I hope that every one of those rifles is zeroed in, and the shooters have boxes of extra ammo on hand.  Nothing will change until the Republic starts dropping GQP terrorists in their tracks.

2 hours ago, Pancho said:

Can he cite any specific, verifiable examples?  No?  Then fuck off, you diaper shitting spineless fuckwad.

2 hours ago, Pancho said:

What exactly would/could Biden do?

WHATEVER.  THE FUCK.  HE WANTS.

PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY, BITCHES.  THE FASCISTS FORGED THAT SWORD.  TIME TO FUCKING SHARPEN ITS BLADE AND USE IT AGAINST THEM.

1 hour ago, Stilicho said:

He should have been shot on sight.  He's a terrorist.  If he'd had on a turban and been yelling Allahu Akbar, he would have been shot right there.  START TREATING TERRORISTS LIKE TERRORISTS.

51 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I would have thought that Trump supporters, like a decade ago, lost all rights to any kind of "Can you believe what he said??" outrage. I thought words and actions didn't matter anymore.

Everyone here knows that Trump and Republicans can say and do whatever they want.  "We should shoot all mexicans on sight."  Wouldn't even make the papers.  A Democrat says "maybe Trump voters support some bad things," and it's the scandal of the century.  The double-standard is insane, and the legacy media should burn to the fucking ground for creating it and indulging in it.

22 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:


 

SCOTUS definitely will try to steal this if it’s close.

"Will try?"  The effort is already underway.

The chances that the anti-MAGA part of this country is going to have to resort to force of arms to secure the election win that the voters obtained is greater than 10%.  Be fucking ready for that.

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8 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I'm leaning towards what I think @tx 3 putt said - Nikki Haley is probably waiting in the wings with some BMDs ready to take on the RNC leadership if Trump decides to hang around the RNC/GOP for the next four years.

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

I can’t imagine why they aren’t doing better with women

 

 

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47 minutes ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

I'm not getting this reaction at all.  Hopefully you're saying shut the fuck up because you're in a shitty mood, and not shut the fuck up because people are disappointed in the "own goal".  Because it is an own goal.  Because double standard doesn't even come close to capturing how Dems are looked at vs. Republicans. 

A dem stutter or stammer is 1000 times worse than a republican racist remark.  You know that.  We all know.  And the remaining "undecided voters" aren't the brightest bulbs.

Who's mind did Biden change with this? Also, did you know Joe Biden isn't running for re-election?

I wonder how many PR folks in PA fucking cheered?

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2 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

Obviously it would have been incredibly stupid for Biden to call Trump's supporters garbage.

I mean he didn't though. Does that matter?

No, not really. The transcript of his comments is hard to understand and the right wing media outrage machine will just run with their preferred narrative as usual.

 

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12 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

If the POTUS is doing his job, there are loyal senior officers around Flynn who have orders to take action against him when it becomes necessary.

And it WILL become necessary.  He was involved in Jan 6th non-response (they tried to lie and say he wasn't....he was there in the fucking room when calls were being made about support).  He's a traitor, and if he lifts a finger against the Republic, should be shot immediately for waging war against the United States.

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2 minutes ago, immamac said:

This is far more damaging than calling people who support calling Puerto Rico garbage garbage. 

Not really.  Any woman who was planning on voting for Trump already has zero self-respect or intelligence.  Calling her a cunt won't even move the needle.

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

Not really.  Any woman who was planning on voting for Trump already has zero self-respect or intelligence.  Calling her a cunt won't even move the needle.

I was talking about Haley reiterating on fox news. 

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Gender gap hopium in early voting across the swing states extends to more than just GA.

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In Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Georgia, there is at least a 10-point gap between men and women in the early vote, according to POLITICO’s analysis and data from the University of Florida’s United States Election Project. Similar gender data is not available for other battlegrounds, including Arizona, Wisconsin and Nevada.

 https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/29/gender-gap-early-voting-00186155

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2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Fewer

Didn't expect to encounter a grammar flex esp on something obscure. wtf. Merriam, ya know, Webster says fuck off.  

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A definitive rule covering all possibilities is maybe impossible. If you're a native speaker your best bet is to be guided by your ear, choosing the word that sounds more natural in a particular context.

2 hours ago, Pancho said:

Someone finally showed him the real internals.

 

36 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

SCOTUS definitely will try to steal this if it’s close.

It's an absurd ruling, faithless to the law. But it covers a tiny amount of voters - 1,600. The state also allows same day voting so it can be cured.

Perhaps it's a signal of things to come. Perhaps it's the 6 traitors on the Court throwing him a bone. 

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13 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

This fucking twerp needs his comeuppance as well. 

 

What's the big deal?  MAGA has produced a thorough and well thought out healthcare plan that has been published, scrutinized, and vetted.

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1 hour ago, Pancho said:

I can’t imagine why they aren’t doing better with women

 

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Yeah, all good, this doesn't totally scream "the bottom has fallen out with women" or anything.

1 hour ago, Gandalfish said:

Are we even watching the same video? 

I’m not going to change your mind, but I think most people will feel he called Trump supporters garbage.

At the least, it is not a crazy take and is not “made up by the stupid media”.

if anything, we should be angry about the false equivalency of Trump saying 1000 awful/stupid things and Biden saying 1. “Oh look, they are the same.” 🤡

Most people won't see it or will gloss over it. The person consuming enough FOX News or whatever else to actually see it reported in detail... they were never voting Harris.

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4 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

What's the respectability of AtlasIntel? They're a "Select Pollster" with the NYT

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Oh yeah this one is totally opt-in via social media and doesn’t vet the information you input for your location and demographics, as I recall 

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Just now, tx ind said:

What's the big deal?  MAGA has produced a thorough and well thought out healthcare plan that has been published, scrutinized, and vetted.

That's a good point. Trump said during the debate that we would be hearing the details of his healthcare plan "very soon". Well the election is in six days. He'd better hurry up, or the media will castrate him for that. 

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58 minutes ago, linux said:

Beer Hall failed, and he was handed the chancellorship by Hindenburg after not winning enough seats in the Reichstag in the previous election, the handing over power despite losing is what people think will happen, it will never happen.

Yeah, but that was a coup without the use of a Military, which was your initial point. Shit happens. If the Supreme Court could find a way to do it, they would. If a R congress could find a way to do it, they would. Mussolini was invited into the government in Italy as well. 

53 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Ryan Reynolds Reaction GIF

Now THIS is a fucking own goal. 

36 minutes ago, immamac said:

Kamala said she is a gun owner and will fucking shoot you if you come in her house. She's repeatedly said she isn't coming for anyone's guns. 

She entirely took away the 2nd amendment single issue voters away so much so Trump didn't even stump at nra. 

They are left with defending the very fucking clearly unpopular choice to ban abortion and make women sex slaves and their entire offense has been a fucking own goal on immigration because it's well known Trump fucked it and reiterated by everyone including Republicans that he fucked it and trans hate. 

Its the worst and weakest campaign in the history of modern politics. 

Kamala has run the strongest 100 day campaign in modern politics except term 1 Obama and even that is up for debate. 

 

She didnt entirely remove the 2nd amendment issue with voters, becuase a fuck ton of voters flat out don't believe her. They're coming for their guns anyway, in their heads. They also believe she's a communist when they can't even define communism. 

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2 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Perhaps it's the 6 traitors on the Court throwing him a bone. 

I don't think it can be reasonably interpreted as anything else.

It's an insane ruling; it won't have a notable impact on its own but it's absolutely an indicator that the GOP will be allowed to engage in any and all ratfuckery, and that the court will gladly put a thumb on the scale for them.

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2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

That's a good point. Trump said during the debate that we would be hearing the details of his healthcare plan "very soon". Well the election is in six days. He'd better hurry up, or the media will castrate him for that. 

He said he was shortly going to release his healthcare plan while he was President. Still nothing.

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The Nate Cohn article linked above is unintentionally hilarious. 

"Turnout has never mattered, I always laugh about it when someone brings it up, but somehow this election I kind of feel differently about it." Fuck him, his Siena polls and his insidious create-the-narrative coverage. 

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I'll cross post using data from NBC.  It's combined vote count of EV and mail ins.  The site has gender breakouts.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/early-vote

GA is at about 65% of their 2020 total.  (Granted, the state has grown since then.) -- 57% women

PA is about 22% of their 2020 total -- 56% women

MI is 38% of their total  -- 56% women

Keep in mind that all of these people we've seen oversample men for some reason.  (I have no idea why.)

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59 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Ryan Reynolds Reaction GIF

Since we're discussing SCOTUS, may want to start looking at EV math without CO. GOP will absolutely attempt to have the results invalidated over this and with this court you can't assume they will act in good faith.

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4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Some of yall have got to stop scaring people with this bullshit. Good fucking lord.

This is turning into “the refs will not let us win the Big 12 CCG” from last year 

For real, voting machines and ballot tabulating machines are not connected to the internet.  They can't be hacked remotely.  They change all of the passwords in that spreadsheet and the problem is solved.

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12 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

She didnt entirely remove the 2nd amendment issue with voters, becuase a fuck ton of voters flat out don't believe her. They're coming for their guns anyway, in their heads. They also believe she's a communist when they can't even define communism. 

I still find the uproar over 2A absurd.

- Joe Biden didn't take your guns.

- Barack Obama didn't take your guns.

- Bill Clinton took a small subset of your guns and that policy expired.

 

I mean, come on, people.  Kamala Harris -- a proud gun owner -- is not gonna take your guns.

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2 hours ago, Gandalfish said:

Are we even watching the same video? 

I’m not going to change your mind, but I think most people will feel he called Trump supporters garbage.

At the least, it is not a crazy take and is not “made up by the stupid media”.

if anything, we should be angry about the false equivalency of Trump saying 1000 awful/stupid things and Biden saying 1. “Oh look, they are the same.” 🤡

Yeah the first time I heard it, I thought it was clear he was talking about the statement.

And I am angry about the false equivalency. Hell for years every time I show somebody all the times Trump has basically referred to me as a dangerous enemy who should be destroyed I get the "but Hillary hurt my feelings about being deplorable!!"

At least now they will have something else to whatabout with.

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44 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Understood.  Still doesn't matter.  Not a single voter will move based on her messaging.  She's irrelevant.

I'm withholding my opinion until four different panels on CNN disect the issue and present their guesses about how the voters are affected, especially in the swing states.

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