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9 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Counterpoint:

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Towns population: 12,500 

Clayton population: 300,000

Funny thing about that, the author could have cited a few other counties like Pickens County, which has a population of 29k of registered voters, and a percentage of 140% as compared to 2020 (only 14k have voted).  But whatever.  

If you are going to cherry pick data, go for the freaking gold.  

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16 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Wife and I had dinner tonight avoiding Halloween kids like good republicans. After a few drinks she asked me how I voted. I told her. We left in separate cars as she had to collect kids. This is our text exchange:

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Did the wife text that pic of the chart or did you?   It says Kamala opposes energy independence and who sent the text talking about the Dems restricting drilling? Under Biden we currently lead the world in production. We are producing more oil than any other nation ever has. For better or worse, he has approved more drilling permits on public land than Trump ever did. 

And what Trump has done to protect traditional marriage, as noted on the graphic? He got convicted of paying hush money to a porn star he fucked when his 3rd wife was pregnant. Is that protecting traditional marriage?  

And he sank the only recent deal we’ve had to help secure the border, but he gets credit on securing the border even though that bill failed because of him? Some weird fucking logic on that graphic. 

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26 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Wife and I had dinner tonight avoiding Halloween kids like good republicans. After a few drinks she asked me how I voted. I told her. We left in separate cars as she had to collect kids. This is our text exchange:

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Mrs. Rex sounds Kamala curious.  Rex is gonna drill baby drill TN!

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6 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

Did the wife text that pic of the chart or did you?   It says Kamala opposes energy independence and who sent the text talking about the Dems restricting drilling? Under Biden we currently lead the world in production. We are producing more oil than any other nation ever has. For better or worse, he has approved more drilling permits on public land than Trump ever did. 

And what Trump has done to protect traditional marriage, as noted on the graphic? He got convicted of paying hush money to a porn star he fucked when his 3rd wife was pregnant. Is that protecting traditional marriage?  

And he sank the only recent deal we’ve had to help secure the border, but he gets credit on securing the border even though that bill failed because of him? Some weird fucking logic on that graphic. 

And energy independence, what a load of shit.

For like two days during the Trump administration we were a net exporter of oil.  That's not energy independence, it's not even a trend toward energy independence.  It's a market anomaly.

We might get actual energy independence, but not with oil.

Also, I don't expect my wife to vote the same way I do, but we do talk about it such that she wouldn't hold any misconceptions about whether oil prices are better under Ds or Rs.

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4 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

Did the wife text that pic of the chart or did you?   It says Kamala opposes energy independence and who sent the text talking about the Dems restricting drilling? Under Biden we currently lead the world in production. We are producing more oil than any other nation ever has. For better or worse, he has approved more drilling permits on public land than Trump ever did. 

And what Trump has done to protect traditional marriage, as noted on the graphic? He got convicted of paying hush money to a porn star he fucked when his 3rd wife was pregnant. Is that protecting traditional marriage?  

And he sank the only recent deal we’ve had to help secure the border, but he gets credit on securing the border even though that bill failed because of him? Some weird fucking logic on that graphic. 

She sent it. Don’t know or care where she got it from. Votes have been cast. By both of us. I voted Kamala. I know little about her aside from she’s not Trump. I’m not gonna discuss oil and gas under Biden here. We can discuss in Oil Barons thread. 

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36 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Wife and I had dinner tonight avoiding Halloween kids like good republicans. After a few drinks she asked me how I voted. I told her. We left in separate cars as she had to collect kids. This is our text exchange:

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3 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

She sent it. Don’t know or care where she got it from. Votes have been cast. By both of us. I voted Kamala. I know little about her aside from she’s not Trump. I’m not gonna discuss oil and gas under Biden here. We can discuss in Oil Barons thread. 

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42 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Wife and I had dinner tonight avoiding Halloween kids like good republicans. After a few drinks she asked me how I voted. I told her. We left in separate cars as she had to collect kids. This is our text exchange:

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33 minutes ago, BearSchlong said:


Looking forward to my royalty check tomorrow. Thanks grandpa. Fuck trump.

A friend of mine I’ve known since I was 5 years old (now 35) befriended one of the Spindletop II descendants when he was a KA at Tech. Dude had mailbox money I couldn’t ever dream of. Great guy, met him in Key West. Never cheated on his gal and kids, met me at the bar before others flew in with no intro besides “look for the big dude”, but made sure all of us had a fun time in Key West clubs with a plastic sack of cash.

Bonus EDIT: He skipped the wedding but made his wife go cause he was in Germany for Oktoberfest

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5 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

A friend of mine I’ve known since I was 5 years old (now 35) befriended one of the Spindletop II descendants when he was a KA at Tech. Dude had mailbox money I couldn’t ever dream of. Great guy, met him in Key West. Never cheated on his gal and kids, met me at the bar before others flew in with no intro besides “look for the big dude”, but made sure all of us had a fun time in Key West clubs with a plastic sack of cash.

Bonus EDIT: He skipped the wedding but made his wife go cause he was I. Germany for Oktoberfest

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Wife and I had dinner tonight avoiding Halloween kids like good republicans. After a few drinks she asked me how I voted. I told her. We left in separate cars as she had to collect kids. This is our text exchange:
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Regardless of the reasons, we get that’s not a great time for you or your wife. I’m sorry you’re going through it.
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I just want to once again log…for the sake of posterity and flipping bits on a hard drive somewhere out there…that “tits, polls, and Bennigan’s” is a perfectly natural flow on the politics board here which simultaneously fills me with unspeakable joy and complete inability to adequately explain to others why I love this place.  

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3 hours ago, Red Five said:

Seth Meyers last night played a clip of Dotard on Rogan. Dotard was bragging about all the proof he had of the 2020 election being stolen. He said something like "Sometime later I'll show you all of it". Rogan said, obviously, "Are you ever going to present all of this evidence?"

Dotard looked like he'd been punched in the face. "Ummm.... well, you know, um....? But anyway...." Because, of course, anyone with actual proof of that MIGHT SHARE IT ON THE MOST POPULAR PODCAST IN THE WORLD, TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE ELECTION.

The entire Seth Meyers segment is worth a watch.

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1 minute ago, Homercles said:

I just want to once again log…for the sake of posterity and flipping bits on a hard drive somewhere out there…that “tits, polls, and Bennigan’s” is a perfectly natural flow on the politics board here which simultaneously fills me with unspeakable joy and complete inability to adequately explain to others why I love this place.  

the ebb and flow of this thread is awesome... only interrupted by the brief and occasional appearance by imma

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3 hours ago, Red Five said:

Seth Meyers last night played a clip of Dotard on Rogan. Dotard was bragging about all the proof he had of the 2020 election being stolen. He said something like "Sometime later I'll show you all of it". Rogan said, obviously, "Are you ever going to present all of this evidence?"

Dotard looked like he'd been punched in the face. "Ummm.... well, you know, um....? But anyway...." Because, of course, anyone with actual proof of that MIGHT SHARE IT ON THE MOST POPULAR PODCAST IN THE WORLD, TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE ELECTION.

He has a concept of a plan of telling everyone about the proof 

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@SydneyCarton Standing isn’t an issue. Standing is about whether he can allege he’s been the party actually aggrieved. Threshold has nothing to do with the merits of the claim. 
 

Jurisdiction and venue are the main concerns. Jurisdiction is whether the court in question has the authority to even hear the case. That will depend on Texas’s long arm statute (CBS is not a Texas entity) on whether Texas federal court can bring the case in. There’s a number of factors that go into consideration that mostly hinge on how close CBS has contacts to the state.  
 

Venue is about “does the incident itself make sense to be here”. That’s probably where it breaks down - Trump wasn’t in Amarillo or its immediate area when the show aired. Both parties don’t have the Panhandle as a primary place of business. CBS gonna be hard to serve there.  And courts generally looks down upon “forum shopping” even if venue is otherwise proved - a defendant can make an argument that the venue isn’t convenient considering the overall circumstances. 
 

My guess is that suit goes nowhere in Texas. 

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Just a thought about the silly 10 billion dollar suit against CBS, I read the other day, I think in Forbes, that they estimate that he has somewhere around $400 million liquid, however, with legal judgments (E. Jean Carroll, Statue of New York fraud, etc) and underwater assets he has 1.8ish billion in debt that will be due in 25.  

In other words, in his delusional mind, one of his solutions to his problems is to sue CBS to make up this shortfall.  He knows he is losing, and this is akin to a drowning man clasping at anything. 

I'm sure he's thinking of dumping the DJT stock for as much as he can, but he also knows if anyone remotely gets wind of this, it will tank.  Additionally, if he dumped a shitload of shares at once, trading would suspend and it would tank.  He's also out of time to significantly dump daily, he can do some, but not all at once, and given the negative volatility the last couple of days, that could well be part of what is going on (hard to tell with it actually being worth less than $2 a share).  

At any rate, this "lawsuit" reeks of desperation, and not that of a political nature.  It reeks of someone that is both crazy and desperate for money.  

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21 minutes ago, MrX said:

@SydneyCarton Standing isn’t an issue. Standing is about whether he can allege he’s been the party actually aggrieved. Threshold has nothing to do with the merits of the claim. 
 

Jurisdiction and venue are the main concerns. Jurisdiction is whether the court in question has the authority to even hear the case. That will depend on Texas’s long arm statute (CBS is not a Texas entity) on whether Texas federal court can bring the case in. There’s a number of factors that go into consideration that mostly hinge on how close CBS has contacts to the state.  
 

Venue is about “does the incident itself make sense to be here”. That’s probably where it breaks down - Trump wasn’t in Amarillo or its immediate area when the show aired. Both parties don’t have the Panhandle as a primary place of business. CBS gonna be hard to serve there.  And courts generally looks down upon “forum shopping” even if venue is otherwise proved - a defendant can make an argument that the venue isn’t convenient considering the overall circumstances. 
 

My guess is that suit goes nowhere in Texas. 

How is claiming he’s the party who has been aggrieved not valid in a case where the guy is claiming a 3rd party entity, in which he has no financial stake, edits or doesn’t edit an interview (which he’d have to prove they did and isn’t industry home), and that it directly harmed him somehow? Wouldn’t every political ad ever be subject to this suit if a network chose to air it and he disagreed with it? It feels like standing is an issue to me. 

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47 minutes ago, honolulu horn said:

Portugal no longer honors the Golden Visa, sorry to say. 

This in effect isn't true, although it's technically not called that any more. The parameters are the same (again, with the caveat that the investment in real estate route, which was by far the easiest, is now gone). For other investment pathways still available, you would still apply the same way as before but the visa technically transfers into a D2 entrepreneurship visa. The Golden Visa stay and investment requirements remain what they've been; you do not need to fulfill the standard D2 requirements. The issue with all this is that SEF (now AIMA, the immigration agency) has a long backlog that they are trying to work through. The D7 passive income and D8 digital nomad visas are much cheaper and easier to obtain, but you must be in country a minimum of 181 days/year whereas the Golden Visa is 7 (note again that the standard D2 visa has different requirements than that). With all of these visas you have the opportunity to switch to a permanent residency visa or obtain citizenship after 5 years. 

(probably a better topic for a thread in food and travel. Perhaps I'll see some of you in country someday)

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10 minutes ago, flatdawgs said:

This in effect isn't true, although it's technically not called that any more. The parameters are the same (again, with the caveat that the investment in real estate route, which was by far the easiest, is now gone). For other investment pathways still available, you would still apply the same way as before but the visa technically transfers into a D2 entrepreneurship visa. The Golden Visa stay and investment requirements remain what they've been; you do not need to fulfill the standard D2 requirements. The issue with all this is that SEF (now AIMA, the immigration agency) has a long backlog that they are trying to work through. The D7 passive income and D8 digital nomad visas are much cheaper and easier to obtain, but you must be in country a minimum of 181 days/year whereas the Golden Visa is 7 (note again that the standard D2 visa has different requirements than that). With all of these visas you have the opportunity to switch to a permanent residency visa or obtain citizenship after 5 years. 

(probably a better topic for a thread in food and travel. Perhaps I'll see some of you in country someday)

You sure know a lot about South America

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1 hour ago, honolulu horn said:

Portugal no longer honors the Golden Visa, sorry to say. 

I voted for Harris, but I am hopefully exiting within two years no matter what happens. Doing the first leg of the journey through the Pacific by coming to Honolulu to search for a place for the next week. Should be fully moved here by the end of January. So incredibly tired of the hateful pricks we should’ve shot out of a cannon into an active volcano after 2020.

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2 hours ago, StassneyHorn said:

Trump wants the absolute lowest prices for oil and doesn’t shy away. Everyone in Texas needs to know. There is a bad spot

 

the saudis are ready to help him and regain market share 

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1 hour ago, MrX said:

@SydneyCarton Standing isn’t an issue. Standing is about whether he can allege he’s been the party actually aggrieved. Threshold has nothing to do with the merits of the claim. 
 

Jurisdiction and venue are the main concerns. Jurisdiction is whether the court in question has the authority to even hear the case. That will depend on Texas’s long arm statute (CBS is not a Texas entity) on whether Texas federal court can bring the case in. There’s a number of factors that go into consideration that mostly hinge on how close CBS has contacts to the state.  
 

Venue is about “does the incident itself make sense to be here”. That’s probably where it breaks down - Trump wasn’t in Amarillo or its immediate area when the show aired. Both parties don’t have the Panhandle as a primary place of business. CBS gonna be hard to serve there.  And courts generally looks down upon “forum shopping” even if venue is otherwise proved - a defendant can make an argument that the venue isn’t convenient considering the overall circumstances. 
 

My guess is that suit goes nowhere in Texas. 

my guess is this is not cbs’ first rodeo. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe2vBnfKCC4&pp=ygUfdGhlIGluc2lkZXIgYWwgcGFjaW5vIG1vbm9sb2d1ZQ%3D%3D

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2 hours ago, honolulu horn said:

Portugal no longer honors the Golden Visa, sorry to say. 

Pretty sure it's still available. It's the real estate investment that no longer qualifies but there are other methods. I could be wrong because they've been changing it up. 

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grocery this evening, elderly man (~70ish) with 'White Guys For Harris' cap. as we passed in produce i said 'love your hat!' he nodded and smiled. took a few steps then doubled back to me, leaned in and said 'there are more of us than you think' and winked. 

she's gonna win big. 

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