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45 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

That’s kind of like when the whiskey tax folks told the federal government to fuck off.  I know next to nothing about election law, but I cannot imagine that federal officials do not have the authority to monitor federal elections.

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1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Um, I’m not talking about the “white working class,” yall are.

Again, I’m saying: Democrats have not represented the interests of the middle and lower middle class effectively for 30 years. Over and over, when the interests of the lower middle-middle class  and the top decile came into conflict,  the Democratic leadership chose the latter. When they had the opportunity to protect or expand the tools available to the lower middle and middle to protect their own interests or build equity, they opted not to take them. With the rare exception of people like Sherrod Brown,  the Democratic Party mostly represents the cultural and social agenda of well educated knowledge workers in urban centers mixed with Clinton-era corporatism. To the extent that labor Democrats exist at all anymore, they are an anachronism. 
 

It seems silly to pretend otherwise. 

I tend to agree that Clinton-era Dems (especially the Boomers who hitched their wagon to him), but the New, New Democrats of the past decade are absolutely done with that shit. 

My first presidential vote was for Clinton in 1992, but I abandoned the guy in 1996 as a protest vote after his criminal justice and welfare "reforms" to accommodate GOPs in Gingrich's Congress and voted Green instead, knowing full well that my Texas vote wouldn't make a difference. Hell, I even foolishly did the same and voted Nader instead of Gore for the same protest reasons in 2000, again, because Texas.

Obama talked a good game, and I honestly believe he could've enacted more progressive policies if not for the Clinton era Dems and the complete obstruction by McConnell and company. The guy's heart was in the right place, but I do feel like he did what he could in that environment with Boomer Dems like fucking Lieberman as obstacles.

But, right now, it's a new party with almost all of the energy and ideas coming from the more progressive wing. And, because of that, I feel more at home and feel more positive about the party than I have at most any point in the past 30-odd years of being a voting citizen.  

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22 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

You can feel however you want, but I've been married into the family and have lived in that culture far more than my own family's white culture for over 20 years. My daughters are half Mexican.  I've discussed all of this with my wife and members of her family many times over. 

I'm not apologizing for saying what I know to be the god damned truth. 

Oh okay.

I was married to a full Irish woman for over twenty years so I am fully prepared to explain the Irish-American experience to my kids. Lulz no, I don't understand it but I just teach my kids to be proud and embrace their heritage that I don't really understand.

 

So ...

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10 minutes ago, Constant said:

Not raping them or making crude gestures insinuating that they performed oral sex to get where they are could be a start. 

I continue to wonder why it's any worse to trade a blowjob for a promotion than it is to trade a promotion for a blowjob.

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12 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

I remember when I couldn't stand Stuart Stevens, not because he was a dickhead but because he was so stinking good at his job. Player you love to hate.

 

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He’s right. One of my high school teachers was much beloved but is all-in on Trump, and we stay in touch. 
I told him this the other day: “If Trump wins, 3 generations of students who loved you will remember you for that. You grandkids will remember you for that. You won’t be the guy that took them camping. You won’t be the teacher they looked up to or the grandfather who taught them to fish. You’ll just be a Trumper, until enough years pass that you pass from living memory and nobody knows who you were or talks about you anymore.”

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5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I continue to wonder why it's any worse to trade a blowjob for a promotion than it is to trade a promotion for a blowjob.

Well, only Icono can answer this question.

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8 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I continue to wonder why it's any worse to trade a blowjob for a promotion than it is to trade a promotion for a blowjob.

 

2 minutes ago, F250 said:

Well, only Icono can answer this question.

 

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At risk of the meme already being played out:
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(I love you, Aubrey!)

So, when Aubrey joins us at Chili’s on Wednesday night, should I order the 3 for me with the Smashburger, or go old school with an Old Timer with cheese (and pour one out for the Rojo Burger)? I really want to get this right, and make a good impression on her.
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7 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Um, I’m not talking about the “white working class,” yall are.

Again, I’m saying: Democrats have not represented the interests of the middle and lower middle class effectively for 30 years. Over and over, when the interests of the lower middle-middle class  and the top decile came into conflict,  the Democratic leadership chose the latter. When they had the opportunity to protect or expand the tools available to the lower middle and middle to protect their own interests or build equity, they opted not to take them. With the rare exception of people like Sherrod Brown,  the Democratic Party mostly represents the cultural and social agenda of well educated knowledge workers in urban centers mixed with Clinton-era corporatism. To the extent that labor Democrats exist at all anymore, they are an anachronism. 
 

It seems silly to pretend otherwise. 

You are behaving so disingenuously. Sherrod Brown is your shining example? But his voting history doesn't  align with the votes you claim lower and middle class families care so deeply about. On the 3 votes you said were the issues that those people felt really disappointed in Democrats - Glass-Stegall repeal, the bank bailout and NAFTA passage, he voted the way you'd consider "right" only 1 out of 3 times; he voted against NAFTA. I think the people you're saying feel "left behind" genuinely feel "left behind" but that's more than partially due to living in the rust belt and being ignorant about politics and policies, along with their gullibility for racism. The policies you try to gussy them up with are your own preferences. I would've thought you'd at least cite someone who voted the way you want 2 out of 3 times. But you just keep moving the goal posts, acting in an arrogant and insulting manner, and using a lot of words to say very little. 

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17 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


So, when Aubrey joins us at Chili’s on Wednesday night, should I order the 3 for me with the Smashburger, or go old school with an Old Timer with cheese (and pour one out for the Rojo Burger)? I really want to get this right, and make a good impression on her.

If you are trying to impress a lady, you have to go with the shareables.  In my experience, nothing says, "I'm interested and serious" quite like the Triple Dipper.  

2 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

poor guys draft stock is tanking

that might be deliberate, nobody wants to go to the Panthers, nobody.  

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39 minutes ago, bolverk said:

I tend to agree that Clinton-era Dems (especially the Boomers who hitched their wagon to him), but the New, New Democrats of the past decade are absolutely done with that shit. 

My first presidential vote was for Clinton in 1992, but I abandoned the guy in 1996 as a protest vote after his criminal justice and welfare "reforms" to accommodate GOPs in Gingrich's Congress and voted Green instead, knowing full well that my Texas vote wouldn't make a difference. Hell, I even foolishly did the same and voted Nader instead of Gore for the same protest reasons in 2000, again, because Texas.

Obama talked a good game, and I honestly believe he could've enacted more progressive policies if not for the Clinton era Dems and the complete obstruction by McConnell and company. The guy's heart was in the right place, but I do feel like he did what he could in that environment with Boomer Dems like fucking Lieberman as obstacles.

But, right now, it's a new party with almost all of the energy and ideas coming from the more progressive wing. And, because of that, I feel more at home and feel more positive about the party than I have at most any point in the past 30-odd years of being a voting citizen.  

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33 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

He’s right. One of my high school teachers was much beloved but is all-in on Trump, and we stay in touch. 
I told him this the other day: “If Trump wins, 3 generations of students who loved you will remember you for that. You grandkids will remember you for that. You won’t be the guy that took them camping. You won’t be the teacher they looked up to or the grandfather who taught them to fish. You’ll just be a Trumper, until enough years pass that you pass from living memory and nobody knows who you were or talks about you anymore.”

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So…

 

Now radical republicans are trying to claim “voter suppression” because they have to stand in long ass lines to vote in Pennsylvania.

 

YOU DID THIS TO YOURSELF MOTHERFUCKERS! YOU WANTED THE LONG ASS LINES TO DETER MINORITIES FROM VOTING YOU FUCKING IDIOTS. NOW IT’S HAPPENING TO YOU BECAUSE OF YOUR OWN FUCKING SELVES. HOW STUPID ARE YALL!

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3 minutes ago, Chopper said:

The "French financial trader" on Polymarket story doesn't really add up for me. I'm definitely skeptical it's his money, and about his claim to have no political agenda.

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Crypto money. Easy come, easy go. This is a better investment than NFT’s or SPAC’s. 

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11 hours ago, Js1 said:

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Just read Georgia last day of EV is pretty high and much blacker. Already 73k votes before lunch

Blacker the berry, sweeter the President 

2 hours ago, TankedBevo said:

Going to Port A is a fucking beating trying to enjoy the beach with fucking Trump and punisher logo flags everywhere. 

go to Palacios

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3 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

hahaha sde 

Yeah that happened in late August, but I hadn't seen it 'til now. Like I said before, the IAFF leadership are pussies, but we in the membership know wtf is up. So got damn proud of my IAFF sisters and brothers, in Boston ...

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13 minutes ago, Chopper said:

The "French financial trader" on Polymarket story doesn't really add up for me. I'm definitely skeptical it's his money, and about his claim to have no political agenda.

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Théo said he didn't want to share his name because his own friends and children don't know the extent of his wealth....

Fortunately, that won't be an issue for him come Wednesday. 

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4 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:


Crypto money. Easy come, easy go. This is a better investment than NFT’s or SPAC’s. 

I didn't clip the part where he says he's bet the majority of his liquid assets. He's a "veteran financial investor" who's never bet on the US election before and all of a sudden, he's risking almost all of his holdings on Trump and spouting Trump rhetoric while emailing the reporter "dozens of times" over 2 weeks to give his hot takes, all while refusing to affirm his identity to the reporter, even confidentially. Seems sus. 

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2 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

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Imagine secretly talking to Putin while spreading lies and attacks on important Democratic politicians and important Democratic core voters on your social media site might make you enemies with the Democrats in DC?

I am not sure what his plan was, just gamble that the Democrats would lose power and never gain it again?

Though I guess I am unclear why the Democrats currently in DC are waiting around until November 5th to take care of this obvious national security risk.

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43 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


So, when Aubrey joins us at Chili’s on Wednesday night, should I order the 3 for me with the Smashburger, or go old school with an Old Timer with cheese (and pour one out for the Rojo Burger)? I really want to get this right, and make a good impression on her.

Watch Robert De Niro degrade himself in trailer for his latest film, genuinely called Dirty Grandpa : r/movies

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6 minutes ago, Chopper said:

I didn't clip the part where he says he's bet the majority of his liquid assets. He's a "veteran financial investor" who's never bet on the US election before and all of a sudden, he's risking almost all of his holdings on Trump and spouting Trump rhetoric while emailing the reporter "dozens of times" over 2 weeks to give his hot takes, all while refusing to affirm his identity to the reporter, even confidentially. Seems sus. 

They have crazy people in France too.

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1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

That’s kind of like when the whiskey tax folks told the federal government to fuck off.  I know next to nothing about election law, but I cannot imagine that federal officials do not have the authority to monitor federal elections.

Does the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution not take care of this? Or have conservatives forgotten that it exists?

 

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