2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

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38 minutes ago, Pancho said:

So…

 

Now radical republicans are trying to claim “voter suppression” because they have to stand in long ass lines to vote in Pennsylvania.

 

YOU DID THIS TO YOURSELF MOTHERFUCKERS! YOU WANTED THE LONG ASS LINES TO DETER MINORITIES FROM VOTING YOU FUCKING IDIOTS. NOW IT’S HAPPENING TO YOU BECAUSE OF YOUR OWN FUCKING SELVES! HOW STUPID ARE YALL! YOU STUPID FASCIST PIGS! YOU HAVE HORSES…WHAT WERE YOU THINKING??

fify

 

[bolverk 29672]

26 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

They have crazy people in France too.

 

20 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yeah…but they’re SO much cooler. It’s the skinny cigarettes, I think.

 

10 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

 

2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Galoise

*Gauloises

[hobbes2702 13033]

1 hour ago, F250 said:

Well, the cloak room is boring. Time to jump in the Quinn Ewers thread for some controversy.

[BamaATL 16593]

31 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Imagine secretly talking to Putin while spreading lies and attacks on important Democratic politicians and important Democratic core voters on your social media site might make you enemies with the Democrats in DC?

I am not sure what his plan was, just gamble that the Democrats would lose power and never gain it again?

Though I guess I am unclear why the Democrats currently in DC are waiting around until November 5th to take care of this obvious national security risk.

No private citizen is begging to made an example of more than him.  I'm absolutely convinced that at this point his company's, save twitter, are successful in spite of him; and further, would be better off without him.  In a way, I feel bad for the people at Space X, who are doing amazing things, and I don't think it would matter really who is in charge at this point.  I might be in the minority here, but I'm highly interested in what they are doing with the Boring Company as well.  I'll leave Tesla out all that.  

At any rate, he's put a big fat target on his back, whereas if he'd just kept his mouth shut and silently contributed, like most rational billionaires, he wouldn't be getting a second thought.  I don't know what will come out of all this for him, beyond actually having to pay more in taxes, but people have long memories and I suspect he's invited way more trouble for himself than he ever bargained for.  

[Valmy77 13226]

4 hours ago, Born to Run said:

And South Texas. We ceded a traditionally Blue South Texas Corridor with a booming population and have done Nothing to course correct.  It's infuriating. We need a statewide candidate that is Allred/ Munchin light but Latino that also hunts and can look authentic doing so like Gov Ann whilst quoting George Straight with Flaco Jimenez endorsement.

It is very strange. Here we are in 2020 with our best performance in a Presidential election in Texas since 1976. A very impressive step forward and this was with this sudden right wing surge in the valley (relatively, obviously...still bluer than my county). How that is possible, that we did so well while doing poorly there, and that it is happening at all if baffling. But I don't know anything about the RGV. The Democrats still control most of the offices there though so there should be people on the ground who know what is going on and do something about it.

Maybe. I don't know.

But either way people in the part of the state just don't turn out to vote unfortunately.

Anyway we will see what happens this year.

Edited November 2 by Valmy77

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4 hours ago, Clintonaldo said:

Let’s all go to our nearest Chili’s next Wednesday and get blasted and start a drunk thread. 

And watch the resulting thread merge with the booking photos thread?

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4 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

No private citizen is begging to made an example of more than him.  I'm absolutely convinced that at this point his company's, save twitter, are successful in spite of him; and further, would be better off without him.  In a way, I feel bad for the people at Space X, who are doing amazing things, and I don't think it would matter really who is in charge at this point.  I might be in the minority here, but I'm highly interested in what they are doing with the Boring Company as well.  I'll leave Tesla out all that.  

At any rate, he's put a big fat target on his back, whereas if he'd just kept his mouth shut and silently contributed, like most rational billionaires, he wouldn't be getting a second thought.  I don't know what will come out of all this for him, beyond actually having to pay more in taxes, but people have long memories and I suspect he's invited way more trouble for himself than he ever bargained for.  

My FIL, who was an early Tesla adopter, is fully convinced Elon is one of the smartest people on the planet.  I am also a Tesla owner and am very happy with my car and also appreciate Elon's early contributions to the EV sector, Space X, etc.  Yes, I know he wasn't the main catalyst behind some of that, but we can't deny the marketing push by his celebrity, at the very least. 

THAT SAID, I tried to tell the FIL last week how Elon has completely lost his god damn mind and shouldn't be allowed to be on the board of pretty much any of his companies now and he was absolutely not having it. 

FIL: "Don't look at his politics!  Look at what he's done to change the world!"  

Yes, I too once thought this way, well, until his politics went off the god damn deep end.  Basically when he bought Twitter to spy on his girlfriend and Covid broke his brain.  

[Tuco 5076]

4 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

I said back in the beginning, Harris should have at least made one trip to Ohio as part of the Blue Wall barnstorming campaign. 

I don't think that would help Brown. 

 

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

I continue to wonder why it's any worse to trade a blowjob for a promotion than it is to trade a promotion for a blowjob.

Because I'd rather have a blowjob.  Is this a trick question? 

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53 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Imagine secretly talking to Putin while spreading lies and attacks on important Democratic politicians and important Democratic core voters on your social media site might make you enemies with the Democrats in DC?

I am not sure what his plan was, just gamble that the Democrats would lose power and never gain it again?

Though I guess I am unclear why the Democrats currently in DC are waiting around until November 5th to take care of this obvious national security risk.

imagine wanting to shape the conversation and influence opinion so much that you buy twitter and you still fuck it up.  

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2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

My FIL, who was an early Tesla adopter, is fully convinced Elon is one of the smartest people on the planet.  I am also a Tesla owner and am very happy with my car and also appreciate Elon's early contributions to the EV sector, Space X, etc.  Yes, I know he wasn't the main catalyst behind some of that, but we can't deny the marketing push by his celebrity, at the very least. 

THAT SAID, I tried to tell the FIL last week how Elon has completely lost his god damn mind and shouldn't be allowed to be on the board of pretty much any of his companies now and he was absolutely not having it. 

FIL: "Don't look at his politics!  Look at what he's done to change the world!"  

Yes, I too once thought this way, well, until his politics went off the god damn deep end.  Basically when he bought Twitter to spy on his girlfriend and Covid broke his brain.  

Much of our space program was initially built on the back of the work done by Nazis. Lots of bad people in history who have done work on good shit and nevertheless needed to be discarded because they were get this….bad people

[Pancho 44803]

 

[bolverk 29672]

4 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

It is very strange. Here we are in 2020 with our best performance in a Presidential election in Texas since 1976. A very impressive step forward and this was with this sudden right wing surge in the valley. How that is possible, that we did so well while doing poorly there, and that it is happening at all if baffling. But I don't know anything about the RGV. The Democrats still control most of the offices there though so there should be people on the ground who know what is going on and do something about it.

Maybe. I don't know.

But either way people in the part of the state just don't turn out to vote unfortunately.

Anyway we will see what happens this year.

Roland Gutierrez was probably the smarter play if Texas Dems wanted to retain the Valley. He has the fire.

Allred got my vote, but I've got to think that he would've been more effective in getting the vote from down there, but I'm riding with Allred.

[BamaATL 16593]

3 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

My FIL, who was an early Tesla adopter, is fully convinced Elon is one of the smartest people on the planet.  I am also a Tesla owner and am very happy with my car and also appreciate Elon's early contributions to the EV sector, Space X, etc.  Yes, I know he wasn't the main catalyst behind some of that, but we can't deny the marketing push by his celebrity, at the very least. 

THAT SAID, I tried to tell the FIL last week how Elon has completely lost his god damn mind and shouldn't be allowed to be on the board of pretty much any of his companies now and he was absolutely not having it. 

FIL: "Don't look at his politics!  Look at what he's done to change the world!"  

Yes, I too once thought this way, well, until his politics went off the god damn deep end.  Basically when he bought Twitter to spy on his girlfriend and Covid broke his brain.  

I find myself in much a similar boat, though I've never been one to hero worship, which seems to be an issue for lots of people.  As a shareholder, I honestly hope he gets deported and divested.  I bought in early because I liked the general vision and agreed the auto industry was ripe for a shake up, that has been good to me.  I've stuck with it because I've seen demonstrable results, both in product and profit, often times in spite of his childishness and kooky ideas. However, I never intended to hitch my wagon to a radicalized psychopath.  Divesting from it now would almost seem like letting him win.  Also, while I don't believe in him at all with anything, I do believe the company has the stand alone talent and capability of delivering.  

Just for the record, even though I know it's good for me, I am absolutely floored anyone drives that abortion of a truck, and yet every day, I see more of them.   I'm not sure what shocks me more, just how fucking stupid it looks or the fact that some idiot paid 100+k for it.  

[Hank_Hill 18807]

They finally starting popping up on Maui a few months ago, seeing the salt scum constantly trashing the look on that stainless brings me joy.

[henrygandorf 29191]

when everybody i like likes who i like. 

[Valmy77 13226]

9 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Roland Gutierrez was probably the smarter play if Texas Dems wanted to retain the Valley. He has the fire.

I voted for him in the primary. But we elect people to win not to please one region.

Also is that what the Valley wants? Just people from the Valley winning Dem nominations? I have to think it is something else.

[Pancho 44803]

 

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2 hours ago, F250 said:

I was married to a full Irish woman for over twenty years

Was that even legal?

2 hours ago, F250 said:

Well, the cloak room is boring. Time to jump in the Quinn Ewers thread for some controversy.

F250:

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1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

I've found myself morphing into the night crew lately.  I told myself I was going to check out after I voted and not pay attention.  Yeah, that ain't happening.

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This is yet more of the kind of stuff we’ve been seeing the past few months that we did not see in 2020.  One Republican voter (former Trumper) going public. When all is said and done, I’d love to know the ratio for Republicans privately voting for her vs those who publicly support her.

 

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22 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

This is yet more of the kind of stuff we’ve been seeing the past few months that we did not see in 2020.  One Republican voter (former Trumper) going public. When all is said and done, I’d love to know the ratio for Republicans privately voting for her vs those who publicly support her.

 

That account is a great follow. They have loads of videos just like that one, or at least on their website they do. I should have done one myself. Maybe I still will, tomorrow after a shave. Better late than never, I guess.

Edited November 2 by wood

[scottsins 1966]

To be fair, the Kamala Wins handle is prone to running it back through if they're bored. They got me a little while ago. 

It’s not @KamalaWins that x’ed that.

It was @Kamala’sWins

[sidis 9828]

5 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

They have crazy people in France too.

 

5 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Yeah…but they’re SO much cooler. It’s the skinny cigarettes, I think.

 

5 hours ago, David Dennison said:

 

5 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

Galoise

 

5 hours ago, bolverk said:

 

 

 

*Gauloises

If you guys are trying to lure me back into posting non stop French literature posts, it’s totally working. 

Edited November 2 by sidis

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10 hours ago, quigley said:

It's okay to say "we agree."

Well, we don't exactly, but thats ok too!

[DigglerontheHoof 21199]

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8 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

God I fucking hope so

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7 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Um, I’m not talking about the “white working class,” yall are.

Again, I’m saying: Democrats have not represented the interests of the middle and lower middle class effectively for 30 years. Over and over, when the interests of the lower middle-middle class  and the top decile came into conflict,  the Democratic leadership chose the latter. When they had the opportunity to protect or expand the tools available to the lower middle and middle to protect their own interests or build equity, they opted not to take them. With the rare exception of people like Sherrod Brown,  the Democratic Party mostly represents the cultural and social agenda of well educated knowledge workers in urban centers mixed with Clinton-era corporatism. To the extent that labor Democrats exist at all anymore, they are an anachronism. 
 

It seems silly to pretend otherwise. 

This is accurate. It's also what the middle and upper middle class have voted for, for almost 50 years running now, and what they culturally value above all else.

[SydneyCarton 48106]

9 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

9 hours ago, WBT said:

feature not bug

 

8 hours ago, BamaATL said:

Well for once, he isn't wrong.  

WBT nailed it, but this is a huge problem. It’s no different than trump. He knows he’s done bad shit, and these are his efforts to muddy the waters if Harris’s actually tries to, you know, enforce the fucking law. Yet another poison pill to our fucking country. God I hate these fuckers. 
 

I hope she yanks his security clearance and publishes the fucking truth to the American public. Like on day 3. 

[SydneyCarton 48106]

8 hours ago, Pancho said:

 

 

Without context, Ive got 100 bucks he was specifically talking about Kamala Harris giving blowjobs. 

[Underdog 28633]

Or how Melania got her green card. 

[G650 14256]

7 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

Maybe less talking, and more bustin out an ass-whoopin on him. I mean, we got nothin but lawyers.

So honestly, this guy is a funny story, and there is no way I can really do it justice here, but I will give you the overview anyhow.

He is a true believer in every sense of the word and lives in a vaguely attached reality. Probably two or three times a year he will call me in a panic over some totally wacky conspiracy theory he has heard from god knows where. I think the last one was France, India and maybe Turkey were going through with their alternative currency and the USD was going to be eradicated in 3 months. This was maybe in the spring of this year? Anyways. He was a nuclear engineer in the Navy, so clearly has intelligence, but whatever that thing that keeps you in touch with reality is not firing on all cylinders.

 

As far as the riot, he was there for the rally up the street (I actually talked to him on the phone while that was happening. He was like "hold on a second, the President is speaking", which is when it dawned on me where he was). He got sucked up into that through naiveté, and didn't actually raid the Capitol. And on the plus side my guys gave him a hilarious amount of shit for it.

So this isn't a guy who is consciously lashing out and knows he is hurting people, he is a true believer.

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6 hours ago, BamaATL said:

At any rate, he's put a big fat target on his back, whereas if he'd just kept his mouth shut and silently contributed, like most rational billionaires, he wouldn't be getting a second thought.  I don't know what will come out of all this for him, beyond actually having to pay more in taxes, but people have long memories and I suspect he's invited way more trouble for himself than he ever bargained for.  

Biden or Harris could revoke his security clearance, which would seriously hamper his position at SpaceX due to all the DoD contracts. The report that Elon talks to Putin regularly is enough of a concern to justify that move.

Biden or Harris could also order an investigation into Elon’s citizenship application. If it is found he lied during that process, his citizenship could be revoked. The reports that he worked illegally before gaining citizenship are enough to justify an investigation but I didn’t know if that would be a disqualifier. 

Either way, Elon relies heavily on the US government (DoD contracts, EV tax credits, etc) and needs to be reminded that choices have consequences. Just look at Bezos - don’t think Amazon AWS losing the $10 billion JEDI contract after criticizing Trump didn’t affect his decision to prevent the Washington Post from recommending Harris.

Basically - don’t slap the hand that feeds you. 

[SydneyCarton 48106]

7 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

He’s right. One of my high school teachers was much beloved but is all-in on Trump, and we stay in touch. 
I told him this the other day: “If Trump wins, 3 generations of students who loved you will remember you for that. You grandkids will remember you for that. You won’t be the guy that took them camping. You won’t be the teacher they looked up to or the grandfather who taught them to fish. You’ll just be a Trumper, until enough years pass that you pass from living memory and nobody knows who you were or talks about you anymore.”

So…did he cum or what?

 

im guessing he dismissed your comment entirely. 

7 hours ago, Pancho said:

So…

 

Now radical republicans are trying to claim “voter suppression” because they have to stand in long ass lines to vote in Pennsylvania.

 

YOU DID THIS TO YOURSELF MOTHERFUCKERS! YOU WANTED THE LONG ASS LINES TO DETER MINORITIES FROM VOTING YOU FUCKING IDIOTS. NOW IT’S HAPPENING TO YOU BECAUSE OF YOUR OWN FUCKING SELVES. HOW STUPID ARE YALL!

I guarantee we hear this shit. 

[Dbeasy 15051]

Trump and Elon have crystalized for me that there are way more gullible, unintelligent people in the U.S. than I ever realized. They obviously figured this out a long time ago and have used it to their advantage to reap extraordinary financial and other rewards. 

They also helped me realize the number of people in the U.S. with little to no integrity or morals is far higher than I ever realized. As a military brat you grow up with the military code and you tend to believe it, and believe that everyone else lives that way too. The real world is obviously very different from that idyllic model, but Trump and Musk exposed a huge population of shitty people. 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13585]

7 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Again, I’m saying: Democrats have not represented the interests of the middle and lower middle class effectively for 30 years.

I'm not even disagreeing with this. I'm disagreeing with your notion that GOP-voting constituents are blameless. The more relevant question is who has done a better job at promoting the long-term general welfare while tasked with winning elections in the Reagan Revolution Overton Window- Citizens United, repeal of the Fairness Doctrine, internet disinformation, defunding education, etc...

The compounded Frankenstein effects of this we virtually watched in real time when the GOP leadership went from condemning the J6 attack on democracy to downplaying or defending it within a matter of weeks. More than anything else, that was GOP voting constituent-driven. 

[SydneyCarton 48106]

6 hours ago, BamaATL said:

No private citizen is begging to made an example of more than him.  I'm absolutely convinced that at this point his company's, save twitter, are successful in spite of him; and further, would be better off without him.  In a way, I feel bad for the people at Space X, who are doing amazing things, and I don't think it would matter really who is in charge at this point.  I might be in the minority here, but I'm highly interested in what they are doing with the Boring Company as well.  I'll leave Tesla out all that.  

At any rate, he's put a big fat target on his back, whereas if he'd just kept his mouth shut and silently contributed, like most rational billionaires, he wouldn't be getting a second thought.  I don't know what will come out of all this for him, beyond actually having to pay more in taxes, but people have long memories and I suspect he's invited way more trouble for himself than he ever bargained for.  

If, guess you don’t visit the daily Texan thread. The boring company is literally a fucking grift or joke. They’re not even trying to complete a project. They just announce new projects that then go away. 

6 hours ago, BamaATL said:

I find myself in much a similar boat, though I've never been one to hero worship, which seems to be an issue for lots of people.  As a shareholder, I honestly hope he gets deported and divested.  I bought in early because I liked the general vision and agreed the auto industry was ripe for a shake up, that has been good to me.  I've stuck with it because I've seen demonstrable results, both in product and profit, often times in spite of his childishness and kooky ideas. However, I never intended to hitch my wagon to a radicalized psychopath.  Divesting from it now would almost seem like letting him win.  Also, while I don't believe in him at all with anything, I do believe the company has the stand alone talent and capability of delivering.  

Just for the record, even though I know it's good for me, I am absolutely floored anyone drives that abortion of a truck, and yet every day, I see more of them.   I'm not sure what shocks me more, just how fucking stupid it looks or the fact that some idiot paid 100+k for it.  

If you made a god profit, you didn’t let him win. You made a good investment. Winning is getting out before he inevitably tanks that investment like he’s doing everywhere else except space x. He’s not a rational man. Is riding it until the stock tanks showing him who’s balls? No. 

[Clintonaldo 2574]

50 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Trump and Elon have crystalized for me that there are way more gullible, unintelligent people in the U.S. than I ever realized. They obviously figured this out a long time ago and have used it to their advantage to reap extraordinary financial and other rewards. 

They also helped me realize the number of people in the U.S. with little to no integrity or morals is far higher than I ever realized. As a military brat you grow up with the military code and you tend to believe it, and believe that everyone else lives that way too. The real world is obviously very different from that idyllic model, but Trump and Musk exposed a huge population of shitty people. 

Try living in the Bible Belt. I really started realizing it during the George Floyd murder. It’s very disheartening to see how full of shit most people are. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26460]

7 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

It is very strange. Here we are in 2020 with our best performance in a Presidential election in Texas since 1976. A very impressive step forward and this was with this sudden right wing surge in the valley (relatively, obviously...still bluer than my county). How that is possible, that we did so well while doing poorly there, and that it is happening at all if baffling. But I don't know anything about the RGV.

The short answer is that the RGV operates on the basis of machine politics and the machines are coin operated. 
Two things:

1) the ”Hispanic vote” is not a thing. Show me a Hispanic voter who otherwise checks the socioeconomic-demographic boxes of a Republican voter and I’ll show you a Republican voter

2) to the extent that there is upside for Democrats to find in the Hispanic population it’s  going to be in urban centers, not the RGV, because until Democrats are a least competitive at the statewide level the RGV machines are going to drift towards the money. 

[Slacks 6821]

9 hours ago, bolverk said:

That really is the essence of her message, "Hey, I'm a hustler, too, but that Trump guy is a bad dude."

And she aint running for President. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26460]

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

im guessing he dismissed your comment entirely. 

Nah. That one got to him and I sort of regretted it, even though it was true.
I think the election is really starting to wear on him, and I get a sense that while he’s going to vote for Trump he’ll be relieved if Harris wins, because he’s starting to put disclaimers around his support- that he knows Trump is a “liar,” “boorish,” a “cad,” “probably corrupt” and so forth, but “strong for America.”

I think a lot of decent old people with bad media diets have sort of painted themselves into a corner here and are hoping the rest of us bail them out so they can complain about Harris nonstop and avoid facing the truth. 

[Doc Sam Beckett 5793]

19 hours ago, David Dennison said:

What happens if Trump wins and not much changes?

 

[Slacks 6821]

7 hours ago, BamaATL said:

I find myself in much a similar boat, though I've never been one to hero worship, which seems to be an issue for lots of people.  As a shareholder, I honestly hope he gets deported and divested.  I bought in early because I liked the general vision and agreed the auto industry was ripe for a shake up, that has been good to me.  I've stuck with it because I've seen demonstrable results, both in product and profit, often times in spite of his childishness and kooky ideas. However, I never intended to hitch my wagon to a radicalized psychopath.  Divesting from it now would almost seem like letting him win.  Also, while I don't believe in him at all with anything, I do believe the company has the stand alone talent and capability of delivering.  

Just for the record, even though I know it's good for me, I am absolutely floored anyone drives that abortion of a truck, and yet every day, I see more of them.   I'm not sure what shocks me more, just how fucking stupid it looks or the fact that some idiot paid 100+k for it.  

It's difficult to separate business decisions from moral decisions. So many things are entangled.

I'd bet TSLA profits from slave labor... But so does every product with a rechargeable battery. 

So, kudos for making a buck. Don't sweat it too much...yet.

[Bookman 4639]

Someone stole my Harris yard sign last night. Buncha savages in this town. 

[BamaATL 16593]

Happy Saturday all, time for the Georgia EV final update:

1.  Total EV - 4,003,586

2.  Female vote count - 2.238 million or 55.9%, Males 1.751 million or 43.7%, Other -15.1k 

3.  2020 non voters - 835k or 20.3%, 18-29 309k, 30-39 139k, 40-49 109k, 50-64 151k, 65+ 122k

4.  Racial Break Down - White - 2.36 M or 58.1%, Black - 1.058 M or 26.4%, Hispanic - 127k or 3.2%, Asian -113k or 2.8%, Other - 381k or 9.5%

 

A couple of interesting things stand out in comparison to 2020.  The Hispanic vote compared the total is off by almost 4 points in the negative.  The Asian vote have jumped nearly 2 points during the same period, while Other has jumped 7 points.  The black vote is off by percentage in 2020 by 2.5% in the negative, however, this isn't because of no shows at the polls, but rather changing demographics.  Case in point, the white vote is down 3%, again, not because of low turnout, but demographics changes.  

I'm working on a final prediction. which I will post in the prediction thread, which will include more county information.  So if you are looking for that, you can find it there.  Bottom line, I'm very excited to see such amazing turnout and to see so many people exercising their rights to vote, in particular former non voters.  Apathy is the enemy of the Democratic Party, and as I've said before, I don't see any here.  

 

[kevwun 15788]

There are some crazy mofos in lake Travis.  There are trump signs all along 71 in the right of way.  My favorite are the vote biblical values ones.

[quigley 1563]

1 hour ago, Dbeasy said:

They also helped me realize the number of people in the U.S. with little to no integrity or morals is far higher than I ever realized.

I disagree. I know several Trump voters of different races and income levels. Some of them are really, really smart. These are generally good people who I trust. One is a close friend. The media ecosystem in America is broken and feeds this lie that we're so different.

I imagine you know several people from your time in the military that are Trump supports. Did they unlearn the lessons that brought them to serve?

[Fudge Nuggets 19190]

11 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13585]

7 minutes ago, Bookman said:

Someone stole my Harris yard sign last night. Buncha savages in this town. 

You can shoot them, I think.

[HenryJames 66052]