2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[Blotto 23490]

9 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

We just don’t know who the True Believers are and who the grifters are.  Well, we could probably tell them by the houses they own and the cars they drive. 

So all of them, then. Anybody who chooses to take part in the worship of Trump is 100% grifter. But I consider organized religion to be the worlds biggest grift. Always has been. 

[Gap03 3303]

14 minutes ago, Jersey Man10 said:

 

Not to undermine the schadenfreude, but isn't that supposed to start at 4pm ET?  I know people show up early for the old man, but I wouldn't expect the crowds to show up at the break of dawn for JD and Don Jr.

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[Js1 85280]

Just now, Dahobbs said:

Many pollsters try to solve the low response rates problem by over sampling certain demographics. But when you mold your sample to fit pre-determined assumptions, you'll be incapable of detecting changes in a true random sample. Their results are only accurate to the extent their assumptions are accurate. 

These are the same things people asked about and were skeptical of in 2020 because her poll showed a very comfortable a trump win compared to the other polls. She was right, again. 

[Aqua Buddha 14582]

2 hours ago, Evil Bill Obrien said:

 

They can all pry the last bag of Cool Ranch Doritos from my cold dead hands

Still really funny to watch GOP all the sudden be 100% onboard with Michele Obama health initiatives for the totally wrong reason (Crazy ass RFK Jr)

[The Dog 44019]

June: DMR poll has Trump +18 vs. Biden in Iowa July 29: Iowa’s six-week abortion ban goes into effect with intense controversy and news coverage September 22: DMR poll shows 59-37% opposition to new abortion law — 69% among women. Also shows Trump lead over Harris at just 47-43% All fall: Saturation ad spending and campaigning on abortion by Dem candidates in the state’s two toss-up House races Now: Final DMR poll has massive gen der gap pushing Harris into 47-44% lead

[The Dog 44019]

 

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

 

[SizzleChest 8283]

31 minutes ago, Js1 said:

We just need him to be a D vote for majority leader, but he would be a headache. But he can be placated with good union legislation, veterans support, legal weed, etc 

Big toker, that Osborn.

[mdmost 42999]

SNL can Trump on next weekend after he loses.

[Tonesky 932]

SoCal friend is leading a group of 100 people target texting Cali house districts. 2.7mm through Friday. Expect another 3mm Sat-Mon. He believes Cali alone may flip the House…. 

[Biff Tannen 45665]

13 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Oh for fucks sake, nobody is stealing anything.  Your party and its orange buffoon of a leader put your electability along with democracy and women out on the curb like it was garbage and now you are surprised when it's gone?

This is what I don’t get. How could they not think even for one second that maybe they are losing because they are just fucking assholes?

[BevoAbyss 2058]

54 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

White Southern American Christianity was on the front lines defending slavery, Jim Crow, and now Trump. To take any position other than the one that results in the most regressive, stratified society would be inconsistent with historical norms. I don't know why this has surprised anyone. They have been telling us who they are for 200 years.

Spot on. Only they have been telling us for 532 years, since the genocide began in 1492.

It's only a surprise to those who have had Christianity literally baked into their consciousness from birth by Mommy, Daddy, Grandma, Grandpa, neighbors, the local church, free pass from media, and so on. They are completely brainwashed, but have no idea, because of the religious environment all around them. 

[Fudge Nuggets 19189]

47 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Try having those older white women  be a part of your normal dating age pool demographic when they trend Trumpy in our very Republican state.  

I have legitimate non-dirty old man reasons for sometimes dating younger women here.  All of Jefferson parish and most of Orleans Lakeview area are all very maga.  Which almost always means most of their friends relatives and neighbors are too.  After several experiments giving people the benefit of the doubt, I no longer do that as it is a waste of time.

That said, I hear the same thing from liberal women in very Trumpy areas. I dated an age appropriate lady from Tennessee for a while and she said she’s essentially not dating anymore because every man she meets is a huge Trump supporter.   

What I’m trying to say is we’re missing making money on creating a political themed dating app. 

You need to find you a fine ass sister and be done with it.  Your area is a target-rich environment for that demo.

[cactusflinthead 27598]

[Francisco 2.0 32389]

49 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

What I’m trying to say is we’re missing making money on creating a political themed dating app. 

 

Oh, it's been done:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/17/tech/dating-apps-politics-election/index.html

 

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Recognizing that daters are increasingly prioritizing politics in their search for “the one,” many dating apps have introduced features that make it easier for users to match with potential partners based on their politics in the run-up to the election.

Tinder last month launched its “Take Action Center,” which introduced profile stickers that allow users to share whether they will be voting and the issues important to them. The most popular stickers among the new ones rolled out are “Hot people vote (I’m voting)” and “Voting for reproductive rights.”

Abortion rights are on the ballot in 10 states next month as the issue continues to be a major political flashpoint.

 

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“We are really committed to protecting reproductive freedom because we believe this really impacts dating and relationships,” said Stephanie Danzi, senior vice president of global marketing for Tinder.

“It’s really about making sure (the app’s users) understand what is kind of at stake,” she added.

The “Take Action Center” also features a partnership with Vote.org, a nonpartisan voter registration organization, to provide users with election-related information such as polling locations and voter registration deadlines.

 

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Meanwhile, OkCupid has added a dozen new matching questions that focus on voter behavior and help show users more compatible profiles. The questions, added in January, include “Are you voting in the 2024 presidential election?”; “What’s the most important issue to you in the 2024 presidential election?” and “Is it a deal breaker if your date is voting for a different candidate than you in the 2024 presidential election?”

These questions mark a shift in the app’s strategy which previously featured policy-and candidate-specific questions, such as, “Is climate change real?” And following the 2016 election, one of OkCupid’s matching questions was simply, “Trump?” Users could choose “hell yes,” “yes,” “no,” or “hell no,” and nearly 75% of respondents chose the last option.

 

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Michael Kaye, the director of brand marketing and communications for OkCupid, said the new direction stems from a change in the way users talk about politics — from conversations centered around Joe Biden versus Donald Trump ahead of 2020 to broader discussions “focused on what’s happening in the world” ahead of this November.

“We really wanted to be mindful and careful with the questions that we were adding to the app and not adding any questions that felt like we were splintering people apart further than they already have,” Kaye told CNN.

While registered US voters are split near evenly between the two parties, according to Pew Research Center, daters on OkCupid tend to lean more liberal. But 44% of users who chose to answer a matching question on their political beliefs chose “other” among the options of “politically liberal,” “politically moderate” and “politically conservative,” according to OkCupid’s data.

The app itself has taken progressive stances on political issues and currently has an “I’m Pro-Choice” badge, which was first introduced in 2021 (OkCupid donated to Planned Parenthood as part of the launch).

“Our thought process with our matching questions … is if we’re talking about it with our friends, if we’re talking about it with our family or coworkers, most likely people are talking about it on their dates,” Kaye said.

Deal breakers

For Ashley Houghton, 29, dating someone who does not have the same political beliefs is “100% a deal breaker,” and when she was talking to potential partners on dating apps, she brought up politics “right off the bat.”

“My opening line is, ‘What do you think about these issues?’” said Houghton, who lives in California and works in communications, who said a match’s responses tells her whether she wants to continue the conversation.

These features build on what young daters were already doing to weed out potential partners, such as including “#BLM” in their dating app profiles in 2020 to indicate their support for the Black Lives Matter movement, noted Lisa Wade, an associate professor of sociology at Tulane University whose research focuses on undergraduate social and sexual life.

Wade added that young daters became more inclined to prioritize shared political values during the pandemic, when vaccines and health mandates became politicized and there were widespread protests in the wake of George Floyd’s death.

“For those students who wanted to be cautious about Covid, for the first time ever, they started asking their potential sexual partners — who they’re mostly meeting on apps — about their level of covid cautiousness … (which) had been aligned with politics,” Wade said. “They did decide that, even when we’re just talking about a hookup … that it mattered to them. Politics mattered to them in a way that it had not before.”

Political polarization in dating represents a microcosm of a larger issue: of people choosing to “isolate ourselves from disagreeable points of views” and being increasingly able to do so, cautioned Casey Klofstad, a professor of political science at University of Miami.

“We are able to tailor our daily lives — whether it’s media consumption, whether it’s the leisure activities that we engage in and … the people that we associate with socially or romantically,” Klofstad said. “The more that we do that, I fear, that deepens the divide that already exists between us.”

CNN reached out to Hinge, Grindr and the right-leaning dating site Christian Mingle but did not receive a response.

In a statement, Bumble shared the results of its own recent survey, which found that 48% of respondents think “it is important for them to talk about key social issues while getting to know someone romantically, including voting or social causes they care about, to gauge compatibility and shared values.”

The other side of the dating app aisle

The Right Stuff, an app created in 2022 for conservative daters, is also hoping to create an environment catering to shared values.

The app, co-founded by John McEntee, a Project 2025 strategist and former Donald Trump aide, features political prompts such as “Favorite liberal lie,” and “January 6 was,” which allows users to fill in the blank. But an executive for the app stressed that the app isn’t “overtly political in nature.”

Raquel Debono, the app’s director of marketing and communications, argues that on The Right Stuff, “politics is almost out of the way.”

“Our essential purpose on the app is to connect conservatives and because they’re politically aligned … the biggest filter is sort of done for you,” Debono said.

The app hasn’t rolled out features specific to the election, though Debono said that the team is considering sending a blast message asking users whether they have registered to vote. It is also using current political events to court young conservatives on social media, particularly TikTok, where it has 3.3 million followers — more than three times as many as Tinder and OkCupid combined. The Right Stuff currently has 70,000 active users, according to the app.

Debono recognizes that political concerns are important to daters, especially ahead of a presidential election.

“Political alignment is increasingly becoming a nonnegotiable factor for many people who are dating,” Debono said. “I think that an election year just sort of highlights that as Americans have sort of made political alignment more central to their identities in general and … just increases the awareness and visibility of sort of the divide in our country.”

“And not that that’s a good thing or a bad thing,” she added, “but it’s the reality we live in.”

 

[Francisco 2.0 32389]

 

 

 

[Red Five 40845]

4 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

 

Reads the caption: "Oh certainly that doesn't describe what he said."

Watches the clip. "Yep, it sure does." 

[quigley 1560]

4 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

 

The "fake news" has carried so much water for him over the last 9 years.

[Tuco 5076]

52 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

How confident are we that Osborn will be a somewhat reliable 'D' vote in the Senate and not pull a Munchkin or 'Dangerous Creature'?

Not confident at all.  If he wants to be re-elected, I'd say he stays indy for at least four years and then make the calculation if he has better odds in a Republican primary as the incumbent or as a Dem/Indy in the general.  My gut is saying he'd tack right and go R, but it's worth noting that while has Fischer held that seat for 12 years, Dems held it for the 24 years prior.  It's easy to forget how quickly things can change.  But, even if he had an R behind his name, he's a huge step up from Fischer who will rubber stamp literally anything the GOP tells her to.  Voting for Party leadership is important, but so are the actual Senators themselves.   

45 minutes ago, Js1 said:

We are all skeptical of Harris up 3 in Iowa, but her track record speaks for itself. She knows her state. 

And she would need to be very wrong for this to be anything short of fantastic for Harris. 

[Francisco 2.0 32389]

https://www.wired.com/story/canvassers-elon-musk-america-pac-fired-stranded-michigan-mistreatment/

 

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Standing next to her hastily packed suitcase in Michigan’s Macomb County Wednesday night, Tyra Muldrow had a bad feeling in her gut.

“I have this eerie feeling that I need to get the hell up out of there,” says Muldrow, a 20-year-old Black woman from Florida. She was in Michigan as a door knocker, hired by a subcontractor for Elon Musk’s America PAC operation to turn out the vote for Donald Trump in the heavily contested working-class suburbs of Detroit.

 

 

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Muldrow and the rest of her canvassing group of roughly a dozen people had just been fired en masse, after WIRED reported that they had been tricked and threatened as part of Musk’s get-out-the-vote effort. Speaking publicly for the first time about her ordeal, Muldrow says that the canvassers in her group were fired with little explanation beyond a complaint that someone had spoken with the press. Many, including her, were still owed money. Muldrow had to find her own way home; others are still stranded in Michigan.

 

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A representative for Musk and America PAC did not return a request for comment.

On October 15, Muldrow’s cousin Ebony Jones recruited her for the job, offering upwards of $2,000 per week and a return flight, per emails reviewed by WIRED. Muldrow signed a nondisclosure agreement the same day, and was then flown to Michigan on October 18 as part of a campaign for Blitz Canvassing, a subcontractor which had received more than $9 million from America PAC for presidential campaign canvassing as of October 29. Only upon her arrival in Michigan did Muldrow realize what this job would really entail: canvassing for Trump.

 

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No one in her group of contractors—referred to internally as a “cell”—had a driver’s license. They were initially transported via Ubers, and were then driven back and forth for nearly two weeks in a pair of seatless U-Haul vans between their targeted neighborhoods, staying in a series of motels and AirBnBs in the Detroit suburbs of Warren, Livonia, and Mount Clemens. The three suburbs are in Wayne and Macomb County, the latter of which was the only Detroit-area countyTrump won in 2020. In Macomb, where Muldrow primarily spent her time canvassing, he got 53 percent of the vote—almost exactly the same level of support he earned in 2016, when he secured a margin of tens of thousands of votes in a state decided by a little more than 10,000 votes.

The cell was composed entirely of Black people, strangers from out of state who did not know each other but were usually forced to share rooms, according to Muldrow. According to a text message from Jones, Muldrow was promised $1.50 per door, and $2 per door if she knocked 1000 or more doors per week—an all but impossible number. Muldrow further says they were told they would have to pay for their lodging unless they met the unrealistic quotas. The contract the door knockers signed stated they were “expected to maintain a 17-22% engagement rate during the campaign,” a high target relative to the number of people who typically open their door for a stranger. Videos recorded by Muldrow show cramped living quarters and frequent bickering between members of the cell.

“Our subcontractors never should have driven their canvassers in a U-Haul van and those involved were immediately reprimanded,” Tim Pollard of Blitz Canvassing tells WIRED.

On Wednesday, October 30, Muldrow and her fellow door knockers were fired hours after the publication of the WIRED story.

At first, some people had trouble logging into Campaign Sidekick, the glitchy app used by America PAC for canvassing. There was confusion before they were finally told it was over: “Everyone is fired,” said Jones, who served as the door knockers’ manager, in a GroupMe chat, according to screenshots obtained by WIRED.

Jones did not reply to a request for comment.

Muldrow thought Jones might be joking about everyone getting fired, but some of the door knockers noticed they had been locked out of Campaign Sidekick, according to the group chat.

“I called my mom immediately,” Muldrow says. “My mom told me I was overreacting because, it's [my] cousin, so she was like, ‘Oh, maybe she's playing a joke on you guys. Don't take it literal.’ And my mom was like, ‘She sent you up there in the first place. You went with her. If anything, you would have your flight home through her. She's not going to let you be stranded.’”

Then, Muldrow says, Jones began asking the door knockers which one of them spoke to the press.

As arguments ensued, Muldrow started to fear for her safety. Muldrow packed up her belongings and called Connor Berdy, a 29-year-old political consultant based in Warren, Michigan and the founder of Vote For Change LLC, a consulting group in Southeast Michigan for his community organizing work.

Muldrow had met Berdy—who runs canvassing operations for school board, county commission, and judicial candidates—when, by chance, one of his employees struck up a chat with her while she was canvassing near their home on October 23. Berdy and Muldrow got lunch soon after, and Muldrow told him about how the door knockers in her group had been tricked, threatened, and driven around in U-Hauls to their door knocking locations.

Management had “clearly not prioritized the safety of the workers or the integrity of the operation,” says Berdy.

Berdy then arrived, and pretended to be an Uber driver to get Muldrow out of the situation. He had already bought Muldrow a flight back home to Florida, paying out of his own pocket.

“First I see Tyra on the side of the road with her suitcase and everything,” Berdy tells WIRED. “So I pull up, turn my hazards on, act like an Uber, and then right as she starts walking around, I hear someone say, ‘Where's Tyra?’ And, ‘Oh, that sneaky little bitch.’”

Muldrow made it to the airport and on to her flight home. At that point, she says, she had only been paid $69 for the canvassing job, for which she had been promised she could earn upwards of $2,000 a week. A Cash App payment she showed WIRED for that dollar amount was listed as “for Gotv”—the acronym for get out the vote. Muldrow says she texted Jones asking when she would get the rest of the money she was owed. All she got was a read receipt.

As of Saturday evening, at least three others from the canvassing group hadn’t received full payment for the work they’d done before being fired, according to screenshots from the GroupMe chat.

“Following the incident, some of the canvassers and contractors involved left the program, some decided to stay, all have been paid,” Pollard says. WIRED could not confirm that canvassers in Muldrow’s group had decided to stay, nor that they have all been paid.

The Trump campaign has largely outsourced its field operation in Michigan, a crucial swing state, to Musk—a move that has come under heavy criticism. Outside of Michigan, America PAC is a codefendant in a class action lawsuit in California over unpaid wages to canvassers and other alleged labor violations, a development first reported by WIRED. Blitz Canvassing has also reportedly had issues with the Campaign Sidekick app flagging door knocks as fake. In Nevada and Arizona, up to a quarter of the door interactions were flagged as potential fakes within the app, according to The Guardian. (“Sidekick was never expected to handle the auditing of America PAC’s door operation. The reason the PAC is confident in its numbers is because of the auditing procedures each canvassing firm puts in place and the auditing procedures of the PAC writ large,” a person familiar with the America PAC operation told The Guardian at the time.)

After she returned home, Muldrow didn’t think she was going to get paid what was owed to her any time soon.

However, on Saturday night, right after WIRED reached out to Jones for comment, Muldrow heard from her cousin for the first time since she’d been fired. “You did not get 1000 doors but to make this right and move forward we will pay you the $2000,” she wrote, according to text messages reviewed by WIRED. “The quickest solution I can think of is to send someone to pay you in cash.”

Later that night, shortly after WIRED reached out to America PAC for comment, Muldrow was pleasantly surprised. She’d just been paid $2,000 on Cash App. The caption?

“For Michigan Gotv 742 doors paid in full.”

A few minutes later, Muldrow got a follow up text from Jones. “Please let wired know that you’ve been paid asap.”

 

 

[HenryJames 66038]

16 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

And y'all trust this asshole to get you to Mars safely? SMH.

[Valmy77 13225]

The first negative thing I ever heard of boy wonder Elon was that he was terrible to his employees...so that checks out I guess.

[Aqua Buddha 14582]

Not enough attention is being paid to Nawf Carolina.  It was basically 50/50 last time with a narrow Trump win.  Right now they have about 4.4M votes already in and in 2020 there were 5.5M total.  Supposedly the vote already in is 55% women.

Combine that with the black nazi guy and I'll call my shot here.  Harris wins NC.

[Gatorubet 30185]

28 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

This is what I don’t get. How could they not think even for one second that maybe they are losing because they are just fucking assholes?

it has been my observation that they only hang around themselves.  We know they refuse to read or watch any source that is not Fox or Newsmax or social media like youtube or X.    I knew several rednecks from Mississippi who told me in 2020 that Trump red wave was inevitable because “Everyone at church and neighbors are voting for Trump”.  

That small town never-been-anywhere-and-met-anyone-who-thought-differently than me outlook is why they so easily buy the election was stolen.   We see them as incredibly gullible, and they see themselves as accurate predictors of the election based on what they know.

[Aqua Buddha 14582]

[Biff Tannen 45665]

Just now, Gatorubet said:

it has been my observation that they only hang around themselves.  We know they refuse to read or watch any source that is not Fox or Newsmax or social media like youtube or X.    I knew several rednecks from Mississippi who told me in 2020 that Trump red wave was inevitable because “Everyone at church and neighbors are voting for Trump”.  

That small town never-been-anywhere-and-met-anyone-who-thought-differently than me outlook is why they so easily buy the election was stolen.   We see them as incredibly gullible, and they see themselves as accurate predictors of the election based on what they know.

But that doesn’t explain why they don’t realize that most of the stuff they support is just fucking mean and maybe people don’t like it. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13509]

7 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

And y'all trust this asshole to get you to Mars safely? SMH.

 

6 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

The first negative thing I ever heard of boy wonder Elon was that he was terrible to his employees...so that checks out I guess.

Spacex build process is about making mistakes, blowing up rockets and then adjusting. I imagine that burns thru many employees either with quitting or firing.

if Elon was given multiple attempts at getting out the vote, I believe he would get much better at it. Thankfully I don’t think we will see this again. 

[HenryJames 66038]

Just now, Nice Guy Eddie said:

if Elon was given multiple attempts at getting out the vote, I believe he would get much better at it. Thankfully I don’t think we will see this again. 

I don't. There was already a method to get out the votes. He's just a fucking idiot who thinks he knows everything about everything.

[Valmy77 13225]

2 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Spacex build process is about making mistakes, blowing up rockets and then adjusting. I imagine that burns thru many employees either with quitting or firing.

Yeah that wasn't it. And it wasn't SpaceX I was hearing about.

Nor do I see how failing to build rockets really applies to a get out the vote situation.

[Red Five 40845]

Two days before the election and Trump is saying "I wouldn't mind it if you shot at the press". Maybe we'll get some more lectures about how democrats need to tone down the rhetoric.

[Superhero 8828]

2 hours ago, G650 said:

Beets, bears, Battlestar Galactica

And of course ‘brey Plaza

[Gatorubet 30185]

4 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

But that doesn’t explain why they don’t realize that most of the stuff they support is just fucking mean and maybe people don’t like it. 

One of my old scoutmaster buddies is a conservative.  He’s an oil and gas engineer and a former marine.   Back in 2017 he told me the thing he likes about Trump is that “…he drives the liberals crazy”. 

I guess for some people it’s not any deeper than that.  I have a team, and if your team is for it, I am against it.   The more we can upset you the better it is.

He sort of taught me not to look for any deeper meaning to it all. 

[SizzleChest 8283]

6 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

I don't. There was already a method to get out the votes. He's just a fucking idiot who thinks he knows everything about everything.

[Pato del Muerto 52485]

32 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

 

If he really thought the news was fake, or really hated them, he wouldn’t let them cover all of these things and he wouldn’t go on their shows.  

[Red Five 40845]

Just now, Gatorubet said:

One of my old scoutmaster buddies is a conservative.  He’s an oil and gas engineer and a former marine.   Back in 2017 he told me the thing he likes about Trump is that “…he drives the liberals crazy”. 

I guess for some people it’s not any deeper than that.  I have a team, and if your team is for it, I am against it.   The more we can upset you the better it is.

He sort of taught me not to look for any deeper meaning to it all. 

He has an R next to his name. For about 95% that's pretty much it. 

Fuck, he once said something about taking everyone's guns away and no one cared. He could spend the next two days saying that he is now insanely pro-choice and that he hates Jesus and his base would still vote for him. 

[KaiserSoze 998]

In ~25 years of posting on the various iterations of our discussion boards I don't think I've ever posted on any iteration of CR.

Over the last 10 days I've been following this thread pretty much all day/night. Many thanks to all of you for the information you share and the informative discussion (and even the sidetracks)... and holy shit @Js1, well done!

Edited November 3 by KaiserSoze

[Chips O'Toole 1322]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Because she’s not making assumptions about the electorate makeup or weighing the results. Collect, export, publish. Do I think pollsters are intentionally fudging numbers? No, but they’re massaging data to meet priors or assumptions. 

Also could be Iowa specific with their specific abortion ban. 

Also she’s not scared of being wrong, because she has a reputation. Her worst miss was 2008 (Obama +17 and he won +9.5)

I'm making the assumption myself that Selzer is more correct than these other dorks, but there is such a simple explanation for the misses if this ends in a blowout win for Harris. 

How long have we been watching this unfold and asking "How is this thing even close?"

The pollsters adjusting and adding weight to the data in their models in order to "find" the hidden Trump voters that were missed in 2020 and 2016 are completely missing something that the electorate itself is observing in real time that is actually nullifying the hidden Trump vote. 

1. Dobbs, obviously and most importantly 

2. Trump in 2024 is the oldest, most unfit and unstable candidate of any if our lifetimes

3. Or 2b. The most hideous, tone-deaf, messy, insulting, hateful and clumsy campaign of my lifetime. 

This is not spiking the ball, it will still likely be very close in PA, NC, GA, AZ. But it's not hard to understand how all the stat geniuses could shit down their own legs in unison. 

[TexPx 2322]

The FCC can eat a dick

Give him equal time. Let him rant like a lunatic for five minutes, then fact check him.

[Red Five 40845]

Trump hosted SNL as a candidate in 2016. I don't remember if Hillary made an appearance.

Obama appeared in 2008. Don't remember if McCain did. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26437]

1 hour ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

am also not too sure about my fellow white women

I know y’all love Josh. Other than that I’m not sure about much else. 

[Sawbonz 27541]

40 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

Oh, it's been done:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/17/tech/dating-apps-politics-election/index.html

 

 

 

 

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Michael Kaye, the director of brand marketing and communications for OkCupid, said the new direction stems from a change in the way users talk about politics — from conversations centered around Joe Biden versus Donald Trump ahead of 2020 to broader discussions “focused on what’s happening in the world” ahead of this November.

“We really wanted to be mindful and careful with the questions that we were adding to the app and not adding any questions that felt like we were splintering people apart further than they already have,” Kaye told CNN.

While registered US voters are split near evenly between the two parties, according to Pew Research Center, daters on OkCupid tend to lean more liberal. But 44% of users who chose to answer a matching question on their political beliefs chose “other” among the options of “politically liberal,” “politically moderate” and “politically conservative,” according to OkCupid’s data.

The app itself has taken progressive stances on political issues and currently has an “I’m Pro-Choice” badge, which was first introduced in 2021 (OkCupid donated to Planned Parenthood as part of the launch).

“Our thought process with our matching questions … is if we’re talking about it with our friends, if we’re talking about it with our family or coworkers, most likely people are talking about it on their dates,” Kaye said.

Deal breakers

For Ashley Houghton, 29, dating someone who does not have the same political beliefs is “100% a deal breaker,” and when she was talking to potential partners on dating apps, she brought up politics “right off the bat.”

“My opening line is, ‘What do you think about these issues?’” said Houghton, who lives in California and works in communications, who said a match’s responses tells her whether she wants to continue the conversation.

These features build on what young daters were already doing to weed out potential partners, such as including “#BLM” in their dating app profiles in 2020 to indicate their support for the Black Lives Matter movement, noted Lisa Wade, an associate professor of sociology at Tulane University whose research focuses on undergraduate social and sexual life.

Wade added that young daters became more inclined to prioritize shared political values during the pandemic, when vaccines and health mandates became politicized and there were widespread protests in the wake of George Floyd’s death.

“For those students who wanted to be cautious about Covid, for the first time ever, they started asking their potential sexual partners — who they’re mostly meeting on apps — about their level of covid cautiousness … (which) had been aligned with politics,” Wade said. “They did decide that, even when we’re just talking about a hookup … that it mattered to them. Politics mattered to them in a way that it had not before.”

Political polarization in dating represents a microcosm of a larger issue: of people choosing to “isolate ourselves from disagreeable points of views” and being increasingly able to do so, cautioned Casey Klofstad, a professor of political science at University of Miami.

“We are able to tailor our daily lives — whether it’s media consumption, whether it’s the leisure activities that we engage in and … the people that we associate with socially or romantically,” Klofstad said. “The more that we do that, I fear, that deepens the divide that already exists between us.”

CNN reached out to Hinge, Grindr and the right-leaning dating site Christian Mingle but did not receive a response.

In a statement, Bumble shared the results of its own recent survey, which found that 48% of respondents think “it is important for them to talk about key social issues while getting to know someone romantically, including voting or social causes they care about, to gauge compatibility and shared values.”

The other side of the dating app aisle

The Right Stuff, an app created in 2022 for conservative daters, is also hoping to create an environment catering to shared values.

The app, co-founded by John McEntee, a Project 2025 strategist and former Donald Trump aide, features political prompts such as “Favorite liberal lie,” and “January 6 was,” which allows users to fill in the blank. But an executive for the app stressed that the app isn’t “overtly political in nature.”

Raquel Debono, the app’s director of marketing and communications, argues that on The Right Stuff, “politics is almost out of the way.”

“Our essential purpose on the app is to connect conservatives and because they’re politically aligned … the biggest filter is sort of done for you,” Debono said.

The app hasn’t rolled out features specific to the election, though Debono said that the team is considering sending a blast message asking users whether they have registered to vote. It is also using current political events to court young conservatives on social media, particularly TikTok, where it has 3.3 million followers — more than three times as many as Tinder and OkCupid combined. The Right Stuff currently has 70,000 active users, according to the app.

Debono recognizes that political concerns are important to daters, especially ahead of a presidential election.

“Political alignment is increasingly becoming a nonnegotiable factor for many people who are dating,” Debono said. “I think that an election year just sort of highlights that as Americans have sort of made political alignment more central to their identities in general and … just increases the awareness and visibility of sort of the divide in our country.”

“And not that that’s a good thing or a bad thing,” she added, “but it’s the reality we live in.”

 

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58 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Elon Musk is an illegal alien and human trafficker

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50 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

 

This fucking jackass joking about news media catching bullets when people actually died at his rally in July needs to be hammered home.  It's "Oh, I'll survive, but you probably won't" also doesn't consider that some of his supporters could certainly be collateral damage, but he's not going to say that because it's such a cute "joke" otherwise.  Fucking hell.

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1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said:

The FCC can eat a dick

I’m sure when that gets resolved in 2033 after years of litigation for a 15K fine, Lorne Michaels is gonna be real torn up. 

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1 hour ago, Gap03 said:

Not to undermine the schadenfreude, but isn't that supposed to start at 4pm ET?  I know people show up early for the old man, but I wouldn't expect the crowds to show up at the break of dawn for JD and Don Jr.

The tweet got the state wrong, the images were taken from his recent “rally” in North Carolina.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/don-jr-crashes-sparse-vance-rally-as-trump-rushes-to-nc/

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23 minutes ago, KaiserSoze said:

In ~25 years of posting on the various iterations of our discussion boards I don't think I've ever posted on any iteration of CR.

Over the last 10 days I've been following this thread pretty much all day/night. Many thanks to all of you for the information you share and the informative discussion (and even the sidetracks)... and holy shit @Js1, well done!

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35 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

small town never-been-anywhere-and-met-anyone-who-thought-differently than me

If we see the blowout we're expecting nationwide, one silver lining for the GOP that I predict is going to be Mexicans who fit this profile.

Think Uvalde (It's what Lufkin would be if it were 80% Latino). I predict Zapata County stays red, maybe one or two other counties flip, and a continued shift to the right in Mexican-majority counties with populations under 500k.

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