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Just now, Sbbruin said:

There’s a lot of optimism on this thread.  I wish I felt it too.  I just have this constant nightmare that it’s not happening.  I really hope I’m wrong.

Somebody get this guy to a Chili's. 

I sent you a PM BTW. 

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3 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

There’s a lot of optimism on this thread.  I wish I felt it too.  I just have this constant nightmare that it’s not happening.  I really hope I’m wrong.

Give yourself credit.  I wouldn't view the opinions expressed in this thread as indicative of anything except how a bunch of damn lawyers feel about the great American divorce :D.

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5 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

There’s a lot of optimism on this thread.  I wish I felt it too.  I just have this constant nightmare that it’s not happening.  I really hope I’m wrong.

We are just trying to get by on hopium. Most of us are with you.

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If Philly brings this home, I will gladly sacrifice two games of them kicking the Cowboys asses this season. 

Yeah, they're going to do that regardless but I'm willing it to happen even more if Philly gets her over the line in PA. 

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If Philly brings this home, I will gladly sacrifice two games of them kicking the Cowboys asses this season. 

Yeah, they're going to do that regardless but I'm willing it to happen even more if Philly gets her over the line in PA. 

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You can say that again.  (Once for each.)

it is a rare moment that I still wish i was a straight guy. but if I could be on that boat with her (and that's not a boat optional statement), I might suffer through it.

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19 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Maricopa E-Day votes (as of 9am)

40-42% R, it was 58% R in 2020

Indies are key here - almost 40% of the vote today itself, and only 2k votes behind GOP in the county so far.

I think the big 2024 post-mortem is going to be: "The indies decided the elections" 

I personally think Trump defectors + Dobbs voters will decide it. There will be a lot of breakdowns of how many percentage points each age, gender, race, geographical area etc moved, but what I think they will all have in common is a portion of each of those groups ditching Trump or showing up for the first time to vote for reproductive rights.

At least I hope. I'm assuming the analysis of the early voting trends is based on the assumption that people are voting the way they are registered? Which would not pick up any trend of past Trump voters switching sides? Is this all wishful thinking?

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15 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

There’s a lot of optimism on this thread.  I wish I felt it too.  I just have this constant nightmare that it’s not happening.  I really hope I’m wrong.

Bro, my anxiety is at 11.  I'm like 48/52 on this thing going the right way.  I think it *should* be okay, but I can't shake a bad feeling.

Let's be wrong together...

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5 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

There’s a lot of optimism on this thread.  I wish I felt it too.  I just have this constant nightmare that it’s not happening.  I really hope I’m wrong.

This.  Totally this for me.

I have felt like I want to puke all day so far, and it will only get worse.

I love my country.  I love it so much it hurts. It has given my family opportunity for generations.  It has been a place that is and always has been wildly imperfect yet, somehow, has found a way to improve over time.  As they say, "reformed, but always reforming."  We are a good country, and we have tried over time to become a great one.  It is a process, but one that - for most of my life - I believed we continued to move towards.  Yes, with failures, yes, with missteps, but overall heading in the right historical direction.

The past 15+ years have caused me to doubt that (Obama's election revealed how awful a huge swath of our country and fellow citizens are, and it has only gotten MUCH worse).  

I truly don't know who "we the people" are anymore.  I don't believe, like I once did, that we can and will find ways to be better.

I want to hope that we will.  But hope, in these times, is a precursor to disappointment.  And we've had a cascade of disappointments, shocking ones.  To my dying day, I will never forget those moments on January 6th when, driving through nowhere W. Texas, I heard them announce that the insurrectionists had broken through and were inside the Capitol.  As our phones started blowing up from friends all over the world asking us "WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING?"

I want to believe that we can be the nation I knew and believed in most of my life.  But I also know that we are the nation that had January 6th, and might have another one of those.

This feeling is like being in crisis with someone you deeply love.  Will she go off the deep end, turning her back on all the things that made her good, and leading you to the inevitable conclusion of "she's gone....this relationship isn't worth saving?"  Or will she find her way to reaffirm the best of who she is and can be, so you think "there she is....the person I love is still there?"  I feel like I would if I was sitting in my living room, waiting for her answer.  And yeah, I wanna puke.

I love her.  And she's been breaking my fucking heart.

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I know that mainstream media has a self imposed rule to not release exit polls until after the polls close for a state. Or at least I assume it’s a self imposed rule. Is there anything stopping them or anyone from releasing exit polls early?

the concept seems tied to not wanting to influence the vote but they constantly release poll after poll leading up to Election Day which influences votes. I don’t see any difference.

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If you had a prop bet on Jane Goodall pusblishing an anti-Trump op-ed today without once ever mentioning his name, congrats you're now likely a trillionaire! 

Jane Goodall has spent nearly 65 years studying the social and family interactions of wild chimpanzees. She is the founder of the Jane Goodall Institute and a United Nations messenger of peace.

 

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I can't believe how many people in my personal social circle wait until Election Day to vote. I just don't get it.

I'm usually a go on Election Day person. Our local polling place is always light. I only early voted this year because my wife wasn't working from home today so we went last Friday. 

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I can't believe how many people in my personal social circle wait until Election Day to vote. I just don't get it.

Same here. My 70-year-old dad does it, it's time to have the Jimmy Carter talk with him for the next election. 

"If you die between the first day of early voting and election day that would suck."

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

This.  Totally this for me.

I have felt like I want to puke all day so far, and it will only get worse.

I love my country.  I love it so much it hurts. It has given my family opportunity for generations.  It has been a place that is and always has been wildly imperfect yet, somehow, has found a way to improve over time.  As they say, "reformed, but always reforming."  We are a good country, and we have tried over time to become a great one.  It is a process, but one that - for most of my life - I believed we continued to move towards.  Yes, with failures, yes, with missteps, but overall heading in the right historical direction.

The past 15+ years have caused me to doubt that (Obama's election revealed how awful a huge swath of our country and fellow citizens are, and it has only gotten MUCH worse).  

I truly don't know who "we the people" are anymore.  I don't believe, like I once did, that we can and will find ways to be better.

I want to hope that we will.  But hope, in these times, is a precursor to disappointment.  And we've had a cascade of disappointments, shocking ones.  To my dying day, I will never forget those moments on January 6th when, driving through nowhere W. Texas, I heard them announce that the insurrectionists had broken through and were inside the Capitol.  As our phones started blowing up from friends all over the world asking us "WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING?"

I want to believe that we can be the nation I knew and believed in most of my life.  But I also know that we are the nation that had January 6th, and might have another one of those.

This feeling is like being in crisis with someone you deeply love.  Will she go off the deep end, turning her back on all the things that made her good, and leading you to the inevitable conclusion of "she's gone....this relationship isn't worth saving?"  Or will she find her way to reaffirm the best of who she is and can be, so you think "there she is....the person I love is still there?"  I feel like I would if I was sitting in my living room, waiting for her answer.  And yeah, I wanna puke.

I love her.  And she's been breaking my fucking heart.

Relax man. Smell the flowers. There will still be a need for lawyers.

We the people are historically a strong nation full of dumbasses. When you think things are getting better, we are shown the truth. but somehow we muddle along. Are we the beacon on the hill we want to believe we are? Probably not. Were we? Probably not.

 

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2 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

I can't believe how many people in my personal social circle wait until Election Day to vote. I just don't get it.

This is the first time I early voted. Growing up it was an event. People went and voted and someone had a potluck where you watched results.

I miss that.

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No shit.  Russia openly supports Trump and wants him to win.

Again, Trump voters KNOW that an enemy state that hates our country and wants us to falter SUPPORTS TRUMP....and they still side with him.  It's as fucking insane as a Longhorn fan agreeing with an Aggy fan who says "oh, y'all should totally start Brisketexan as QB when y'all play aggy.  Yeah, a middle aged dude with a noodle arm and a bad knee.....that's how you wanna go."  THEY WANT US TO SUCK.  AND TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, THEY SUPPORT TRUMP.  THAT TELLS YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW.

So, I do hate a significant part of this country for being that stupid/hateful.

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19 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

There’s a lot of optimism on this thread.  I wish I felt it too.  I just have this constant nightmare that it’s not happening.  I really hope I’m wrong.

 

I think you’re conflating optimism with anxiety. 

People here want what’s best for America to prosper. I’m now an uncle and my niece turns 1 tomorrow. They live in Texas. I am scared shitless for her future. 

This website knows what’s best for America’s future, and it’s not the White America Only that’s run by men only that team maga wants. 

So no, I don’t know that it’s optimism here rather it’s we are all nervous as fuck and smiling through the nervousness because we don’t know if tomorrow will bring out the “Whites Only” signs at restaurants or we can finally turn the page on the racist, sexist, racist, racist shit era that is maga and trump.

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3 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Relax man. Smell the flowers. There will still be a need for lawyers.

We the people are historically a strong nation full of dumbasses. When you think things are getting better, we are shown the truth. but somehow we muddle along. Are we the beacon on the hill we want to believe we are? Probably not. Were we? Probably not.

 

Unfortunately we were and are that beacon whether we like it or not. Now maybe we didn't earn it but I can assure you there are many more foreigners who are watching to see what our results are today than there are for other nation's elections. The only question, the one we're waiting for the answer to, is "a beacon of what?"

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6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

This.  Totally this for me.

I have felt like I want to puke all day so far, and it will only get worse.

I love my country.  I love it so much it hurts. It has given my family opportunity for generations.  It has been a place that is and always has been wildly imperfect yet, somehow, has found a way to improve over time.  As they say, "reformed, but always reforming."  We are a good country, and we have tried over time to become a great one.  It is a process, but one that - for most of my life - I believed we continued to move towards.  Yes, with failures, yes, with missteps, but overall heading in the right historical direction.

The past 15+ years have caused me to doubt that (Obama's election revealed how awful a huge swath of our country and fellow citizens are, and it has only gotten MUCH worse).  

I truly don't know who "we the people" are anymore.  I don't believe, like I once did, that we can and will find ways to be better.

I want to hope that we will.  But hope, in these times, is a precursor to disappointment.  And we've had a cascade of disappointments, shocking ones.  To my dying day, I will never forget those moments on January 6th when, driving through nowhere W. Texas, I heard them announce that the insurrectionists had broken through and were inside the Capitol.  As our phones started blowing up from friends all over the world asking us "WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING?"

I want to believe that we can be the nation I knew and believed in most of my life.  But I also know that we are the nation that had January 6th, and might have another one of those.

This feeling is like being in crisis with someone you deeply love.  Will she go off the deep end, turning her back on all the things that made her good, and leading you to the inevitable conclusion of "she's gone....this relationship isn't worth saving?"  Or will she find her way to reaffirm the best of who she is and can be, so you think "there she is....the person I love is still there?"  I feel like I would if I was sitting in my living room, waiting for her answer.  And yeah, I wanna puke.

I love her.  And she's been breaking my fucking heart.

Bravo man

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