2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11,666]

19 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Everyone despairing over a Trump victory (which I still believe will happen) try to relax. Know that basic human nature (incompetence, greed, corrruption) will at least partially derail whatever fucked up plans they have for the country. Always happens for the power-crazed and always will. 

his incompetence will counter his evilness, says his supporter.

[NorthLoop 13,991]

Just now, shakahorn said:

Which one of you is the dentist in Houston with the combover on CNN?  Says he's a republican who voted for Harris because Jan 6, economy is just fine - his net worth has gone up the past 4 years, and he has 4 daughters.

Dentist? Surly is all lawyers, didn't ya know? 

[ConferenceRoom 6,123]

Just now, NorthLoop said:

Dentist? Surly is all lawyers, didn't ya know? 

Or, at the very least, rabid anti-dentites. 

[thepop 4,401]

Looks like im not the only one who went from super confident in the last few days to wanting to puke today.

[South Austin 51,793]

4 minutes ago, NorthLoop said:

You're fb friends with helo? 

Probably a relative.

[ConferenceRoom 6,123]

Just now, thepop said:

Looks like im not the only one who went from super confident in the last few days to wanting to puke today.

It's normal on game day. 

[Valmy77 12,893]

Just now, thepop said:

Looks like im not the only one who went from super confident in the last few days to wanting to puke today.

I think the confidence was a coping mechanism to get here.

Time for the cold water of reality to wash over us. 

[Chad Fuck 17,362]

On the other hand, I have a message thread with a bunch of high school friends.  Three of them are hard core Southern Baptists.  One was a preacher, another a preacher's son, the last is currently a deacon. 

Preacher has been convinced that the sheep have lost their way entirely and is spitting mad.  He also has three daughters who've worked on him.  I sent him free Harris and Allred signs and he put them in his yard...in Azle.  That's like the school punching bag putting a "Kick Me!" sign on his own back.  He gives zero fucks.  He's voting D up and down the ballot until the party ejects that fucking guy.

Deacon has also seen the light after his wife's posts lightly questioning tfg's attitudes towards women were gang piled by other members of his church he thought were sane.  He's been converted. 

Once the scales came off their eyes they were able to see the many and varied offenses of that fucking guy and have become vocal opponents within their communities.  I'm sure that's cost them some friends, but they believe they're on the side of right.  

Preacher's son has remained conspicuously quiet on the thread.  

2/3 conversion rate works for me. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Chad Fuck

[G650 13,404]

Man I haven't been super confident this year.

[Hawndoh 2,376]

Y'all need to relax. Harris has this 

I feel like when it was 4th down back in the Vince Young days. Experts and stats people may talk all about how 4th down is hard to convert, how if it was so easy the other three downs would have gone better, but ultimately you KNEW VY was converting. Never even a question.

Same thing here. She got this.

[F250 28,585]

Half the posters on this thread.

It's as bad as the Ewers thread. Jesus, get it together.

[Brisketexan 103,869]

I just feel like today, we're right here:

And remember, Ike wrote two statements for D-day.  One in case of failure.

The world is watching.  So much is in the balance.  And it will be decided as it was before, by ordinary men and women.  The part I just can't believe is that it is our fellow Americans standing on the shore, intent on destroying us.

[wildcat09 28,735]

I've been pretty confident since the debate, but especially since the Selzer poll dropped. Sure it validated my priors, but that's because my priors were fucking right.

[Pato del Muerto 52,141]

3 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

sent him free Harris and Allred signs and he put them in his yard...in Azle

[HornPhD 1,339]

40 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

2222

2220-2221

Edited 8 hours ago by HornPhD

[LurkingHorn 1,044]

Yea, I'm not understanding all the nervousness at this point. I think there's been a clear shift away from Trump and we're starting to see that unfold. 

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11,666]

whatever it takes

[Evil Bill Obrien 3,061]

41 minutes ago, Upgrayedd said:

Guesstimate on final page number?

2069

[Royalfan5 2,327]

Just now, LurkingHorn said:

Yea, I'm not understanding all the nervousness at this point. I think there's been a clear shift away from Trump and we're starting to see that unfold. 

Look I don't have the stuffed dinosaur I steal from my wife at night for emotional support.

[Old Freak Nasty 796]

I am an American Indian, born in rural Pennsylvania while my dad attended Penn State for graduate school in the 70s.  He was accepted by all on campus, but encountered plenty of racism when outside of it, going to get groceries or go to a restaurant.

My dad played national level basketball in India (not a particularly impressive achievement in the 1960-70s) but it did give him the crack in the door to make friendships with non-Indian people around State College.  It had fast become his first love in India and he was amazed at the access he’d have to courts once he moved here.  He played basically any time he wasn’t studying and he credits it as THE reason he survived the first few years alone while my mom was still in India before he could get a job and sponsor her to come over.

He made friends, met families, ate midwest heartland home cooked food, started drinking socially, went bowling, played golf, and experienced so many other American cultural institutions because of the connections basketball provided him.  More importantly, after my mom was able to move, this support system provided a lifeline which if she hadn’t had I’m not sure I’d have ever been born here.

Strangers to her (not my dad) would take her grocery shopping.  They’d invite her over for tea and sit and watch American soap operas for hours without saying a word to each other.  Because they couldn’t!  They’d go for walks and my mom slowly learned some phrases and in a couple years she was a fairly competent speaker.  She overcame her embarrassment of sharing Indian food (the strong flavors, the smell, etc) and invited friends for dinner.  She said they sometimes barely ate any of it but they always smiled and were grateful for the invite.

She got a job shelving products at the local grocery store.  There she encountered the ugly head of racism every day.  But she always went back, day after day, held her head up and did her work.  At first, co-workers started dropping the veil of hatred, then some regular customers.  She learned that only intimate social exchanges change minds, but that they do!

My parents raised me informed by these experiences.  They wanted me to be an American Indian, with both feet firmly planted in both cultures.  My dad passed on his love of basketball (and sport in general) to me.  But I was made sure to love cricket as well.  Since my earliest memories, we celebrated Christmas.  We also celebrated Diwali.  There were no temples around growing up so we learned religion at home with my parents.

My parents always tried to make connections with other parents at school.  A lot of times the parents sneered, my mom would still feel most comfortable wearing Indian clothes so she’d often come to the bus stop and that stopped a lot of other moms from having conversations with her.  But she also made friends by reaching out.  Our home became where my friends congregated after school, most likely because my mom always kept the pantry stocked with Twinkies, cookies, ice cream, chips, and soda or whatever else she needed to buy to bribe my “friends”.

Because of all this, I’ve always felt like I’ve known who I am and I have grown up to have great admiration for my country and proud to be an American.  As I’ve become more self-aware that America’s diversity is its strength after college, each year goes by and I know that greatness is in this country.

America is great because we have African-Americans, Asian-Americans, Latin-Americans, AND the Americans that have been here for hundreds of years.

This is my America.  Our America.  The America we love.

I don’t really know why I’m writing this post today and if it makes any sense.  But it’s helping calm my nerves today.  I don’t want my love and faith in this nation to be broken tonight.  Being American is my identity.  I don’t know if it will be at the end of this election.

There can be two seemingly incongruous things about this nation we hold dear:  46% of the country is happy to be lead into a fascist, racist, misogynistic, dictatorial regime whose policies largely mirror those of the Taliban.  It’s also true that we are on the precipice of electing a Black and Indian woman as our Madame President.

To close, on this past October 12, Hindus celebrated Dussehra.  I’ll spare the detail of the reason for the celebration but it represents the victory of good over evil.

Today, I will celebrate Dussehra again.  To my Surly brothers and sisters, I wish for all of us a Happy Dussehra tonight.  I'll see you all at Chili's tomorrow.

[The Dog 43,613]

[Valmy77 12,893]

Just now, LurkingHorn said:

Yea, I'm not understanding all the nervousness at this point. I think there's been a clear shift away from Trump and we're starting to see that unfold. 

The stakes are high. If I am making a bet that has a 99% chance of success but 1% is a total disaster, I am going to be nervous as fuck.

And I think the chance of success is a great deal less than 99%.

[HRSchenker 2,238]

1 minute ago, The Dog said:

Hopefully that's the only aggy victory we see in November 

[Gil Bang 25,763]

10 minutes ago, thepop said:

Looks like im not the only one who went from super confident in the last few days to wanting to puke today.

I posted yesterday (about 50 pages ago) that I share a close mutual friend with the author/commentator John Alter.

Alter says he's "nauseously optomistic" about the results.

[Huckleberry 32,587]

1 minute ago, Hawndoh said:

Y'all need to relax. Harris has this 

I feel like when it was 4th down back in the Vince Young days. Experts and stats people may talk all about how 4th down is hard to convert, how if it was so easy the other three downs would have gone better, but ultimately you KNEW VY was converting. Never even a question.

Same thing here. She got this.

lol Nick Reid 

[Gil Bang 25,763]

3 minutes ago, Old Freak Nasty said:

I am an American Indian, born in rural Pennsylvania while my dad attended Penn State for graduate school in the 70s.  He was accepted by all on campus, but encountered plenty of racism when outside of it, going to get groceries or go to a restaurant.

My dad played national level basketball in India (not a particularly impressive achievement in the 1960-70s) but it did give him the crack in the door to make friendships with non-Indian people around State College.  It had fast become his first love in India and he was amazed at the access he’d have to courts once he moved here.  He played basically any time he wasn’t studying and he credits it as THE reason he survived the first few years alone while my mom was still in India before he could get a job and sponsor her to come over.

He made friends, met families, ate midwest heartland home cooked food, started drinking socially, went bowling, played golf, and experienced so many other American cultural institutions because of the connections basketball provided him.  More importantly, after my mom was able to move, this support system provided a lifeline which if she hadn’t had I’m not sure I’d have ever been born here.

Strangers to her (not my dad) would take her grocery shopping.  They’d invite her over for tea and sit and watch American soap operas for hours without saying a word to each other.  Because they couldn’t!  They’d go for walks and my mom slowly learned some phrases and in a couple years she was a fairly competent speaker.  She overcame her embarrassment of sharing Indian food (the strong flavors, the smell, etc) and invited friends for dinner.  She said they sometimes barely ate any of it but they always smiled and were grateful for the invite.

She got a job shelving products at the local grocery store.  There she encountered the ugly head of racism every day.  But she always went back, day after day, held her head up and did her work.  At first, co-workers started dropping the veil of hatred, then some regular customers.  She learned that only intimate social exchanges change minds, but that they do!

My parents raised me informed by these experiences.  They wanted me to be an American Indian, with both feet firmly planted in both cultures.  My dad passed on his love of basketball (and sport in general) to me.  But I was made sure to love cricket as well.  Since my earliest memories, we celebrated Christmas.  We also celebrated Diwali.  There were no temples around growing up so we learned religion at home with my parents.

My parents always tried to make connections with other parents at school.  A lot of times the parents sneered, my mom would still feel most comfortable wearing Indian clothes so she’d often come to the bus stop and that stopped a lot of other moms from having conversations with her.  But she also made friends by reaching out.  Our home became where my friends congregated after school, most likely because my mom always kept the pantry stocked with Twinkies, cookies, ice cream, chips, and soda or whatever else she needed to buy to bribe my “friends”.

Because of all this, I’ve always felt like I’ve known who I am and I have grown up to have great admiration for my country and proud to be an American.  As I’ve become more self-aware that America’s diversity is its strength after college, each year goes by and I know that greatness is in this country.

America is great because we have African-Americans, Asian-Americans, Latin-Americans, AND the Americans that have been here for hundreds of years.

This is my America.  Our America.  The America we love.

I don’t really know why I’m writing this post today and if it makes any sense.  But it’s helping calm my nerves today.  I don’t want my love and faith in this nation to be broken tonight.  Being American is my identity.  I don’t know if it will be at the end of this election.

There can be two seemingly incongruous things about this nation we hold dear:  46% of the country is happy to be lead into a fascist, racist, misogynistic, dictatorial regime whose policies largely mirror those of the Taliban.  It’s also true that we are on the precipice of electing a Black and Indian woman as our Madame President.

To close, on this past October 12, Hindus celebrated Dussehra.  I’ll spare the detail of the reason for the celebration but it represents the victory of good over evil.

Today, I will celebrate Dussehra again.  To my Surly brothers and sisters, I wish for all of us a Happy Dussehra tonight.  I'll see you all at Chili's tomorrow.

your handle should be "Two Dogs Fucking"

[The Dog 43,613]

 

[aggie08 20,647]

17 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

his incompetence will counter his evilness, says his supporter.

This is essentially the logic for all those in the middle that think we're overreacting about Trump's danger to the country: he's too incompetent to actually accomplish all the fascist shit he says out loud. 

Cool, so BEST case scenario is he and his cronies flail around for 4 years with no real consequences (for them), Ukraine collapses, Russia regains strength, and Thomas and Alito retire during his term, so he gets to appoint 5 of 9 Supreme Court justices to make sure we have an evangelical dickbag majority for the next 40 years. Great.

Edited 7 hours ago by aggie08

[troph 24,148]

kamala be like...

 

[SimonBolivar 10,807]

Phily Turnout

 

Turnout Tracker – sixty-six wards

Edited 7 hours ago by SimonBolivar

[troph 24,148]

y'all be like

 

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11,666]

Just now, SimonBolivar said:

Phily Turnout

well, i mean, yes, those are definitely . . . dots.

[Dahobbs 17,296]

I have no idea why I keep refreshing this thread. There is no information here without @Js1.  Maybe I should go to the gym too. 

[henrygandorf 29,170]

ok, i just sent my 2 work emails i planned on sending today. also, like a sign from above, my noon zoom got canceled by the other person, which never happens when i need it to. just spoke to my sister who is phone-banking in atlanta.

i feel good.

unrelated, when is a good time to start blowing lines and sipping weller full proof? i'm asking for a friend in, let's say, western europe.

[Dahobbs 17,296]

2 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

Phily Turnout

This chart makes 0 sense. 

[horncyclist 1,371]

Just now, SimonBolivar said:

Phily Turnout

What's the purple field uncertainty looking range indicate? If I'm reading the trend right, they'll match 2016/2020 by 2 PM. Is that it? That'd be quite good, no?

[Firemans4Horn 17,544]

2 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

Phily Turnout

 

[Dahobbs 17,296]

1 minute ago, henrygandorf said:

ok, i just sent my 2 work emails i planned on sending today. also, like a sign from above, my noon zoom got canceled by the other person, which never happens when i need it to. just spoke to my sister who is phone-banking in atlanta.

i feel good.

unrelated, when is a good time to start blowing lines and sipping weller full proof? i'm asking for a friend in, let's say, western europe.

When is a bad time for it? 

[Slacks 6,758]

3 hours ago, MissingInAction said:

My dog is already barking at garbage trucks and douchebags jogging in spandex.

My dog is on night shift for sure. Around 9:30p he'll be out there hootin and hollerin like Kamala won.

[texasdago 7,540]

The best thing I've done so far today is keep my political analysis/updates limited to 1) here and 2) the people I follow on Threads.  Not CNN, not FauxNews, MSNBC, NY Times, POLITICO, etc.  What I am seeing on Threads is supposedly big in-person turnouts in battleground states.  There are more and more stories of R voters voting Kamala so we may see that the EV numbers of Rs don't mean as much.  We've all been saying this (see Nikki Haley voters)

Timeline cleanse: 

https://www.threads.net/@thecompletefacts/post/DB_c23ty-1i?xmt=AQGzlzKP1hwAaMnTT50sNWWlqooo8IGiqOtX7iwcFoDWXQ

 

 

[Valmy77 12,893]

4 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

Phily Turnout

What are the little dots?

Edited 7 hours ago by Valmy77

[ConferenceRoom 6,123]

1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

This chart makes 0 sense. 

I like the pretty line. 

[The Dog 43,613]

3 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

Phily Turnout

r/dataisugly needs this.

[Js1 84,743]

Trump campaign on CNN saying it won’t be called tonight 

They scared. I thought it was in the bag?

[Brisketexan 103,869]

8 minutes ago, Old Freak Nasty said:

I am an American Indian, born in rural Pennsylvania while my dad attended Penn State for graduate school in the 70s.  He was accepted by all on campus, but encountered plenty of racism when outside of it, going to get groceries or go to a restaurant.

My dad played national level basketball in India (not a particularly impressive achievement in the 1960-70s) but it did give him the crack in the door to make friendships with non-Indian people around State College.  It had fast become his first love in India and he was amazed at the access he’d have to courts once he moved here.  He played basically any time he wasn’t studying and he credits it as THE reason he survived the first few years alone while my mom was still in India before he could get a job and sponsor her to come over.

He made friends, met families, ate midwest heartland home cooked food, started drinking socially, went bowling, played golf, and experienced so many other American cultural institutions because of the connections basketball provided him.  More importantly, after my mom was able to move, this support system provided a lifeline which if she hadn’t had I’m not sure I’d have ever been born here.

Strangers to her (not my dad) would take her grocery shopping.  They’d invite her over for tea and sit and watch American soap operas for hours without saying a word to each other.  Because they couldn’t!  They’d go for walks and my mom slowly learned some phrases and in a couple years she was a fairly competent speaker.  She overcame her embarrassment of sharing Indian food (the strong flavors, the smell, etc) and invited friends for dinner.  She said they sometimes barely ate any of it but they always smiled and were grateful for the invite.

She got a job shelving products at the local grocery store.  There she encountered the ugly head of racism every day.  But she always went back, day after day, held her head up and did her work.  At first, co-workers started dropping the veil of hatred, then some regular customers.  She learned that only intimate social exchanges change minds, but that they do!

My parents raised me informed by these experiences.  They wanted me to be an American Indian, with both feet firmly planted in both cultures.  My dad passed on his love of basketball (and sport in general) to me.  But I was made sure to love cricket as well.  Since my earliest memories, we celebrated Christmas.  We also celebrated Diwali.  There were no temples around growing up so we learned religion at home with my parents.

My parents always tried to make connections with other parents at school.  A lot of times the parents sneered, my mom would still feel most comfortable wearing Indian clothes so she’d often come to the bus stop and that stopped a lot of other moms from having conversations with her.  But she also made friends by reaching out.  Our home became where my friends congregated after school, most likely because my mom always kept the pantry stocked with Twinkies, cookies, ice cream, chips, and soda or whatever else she needed to buy to bribe my “friends”.

Because of all this, I’ve always felt like I’ve known who I am and I have grown up to have great admiration for my country and proud to be an American.  As I’ve become more self-aware that America’s diversity is its strength after college, each year goes by and I know that greatness is in this country.

America is great because we have African-Americans, Asian-Americans, Latin-Americans, AND the Americans that have been here for hundreds of years.

This is my America.  Our America.  The America we love.

I don’t really know why I’m writing this post today and if it makes any sense.  But it’s helping calm my nerves today.  I don’t want my love and faith in this nation to be broken tonight.  Being American is my identity.  I don’t know if it will be at the end of this election.

There can be two seemingly incongruous things about this nation we hold dear:  46% of the country is happy to be lead into a fascist, racist, misogynistic, dictatorial regime whose policies largely mirror those of the Taliban.  It’s also true that we are on the precipice of electing a Black and Indian woman as our Madame President.

To close, on this past October 12, Hindus celebrated Dussehra.  I’ll spare the detail of the reason for the celebration but it represents the victory of good over evil.

Today, I will celebrate Dussehra again.  To my Surly brothers and sisters, I wish for all of us a Happy Dussehra tonight.  I'll see you all at Chili's tomorrow.

You, sir....are a great American.  Seriously, thank you.  Tears in my eyes.  This is what we can be.  This is what we SHOULD BE.  Is it what we are?  Time will tell.

But for now....

[henrygandorf 29,170]

7 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

I posted yesterday (about 50 pages ago) that I share a close mutual friend with the author/commentator John Alter.

Alter says he's "nauseously optomistic" about the results.

not sure who said it first, but it's been all over twitter the past few days.

[Gatorubet 29,848]

40 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Everyone despairing over a Trump victory (which I still believe will happen) try to relax. Know that basic human nature (incompetence, greed, corrruption) will at least partially derail whatever fucked up plans they have for the country. Always happens for the power-crazed and always will. 

if that Helobious post could be imagined as a chili recipe.

[The Dog 43,613]

Just now, Js1 said:

Trump campaign on CNN saying it won’t be called tonight 

They scared. I thought it was in the bag?

I have no idea if it means anything but it's definitely a change - weren't they going to declare victory once the polls closed?

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11,666]

6 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

Phily Turnout

this is what my sources have been telling me.

 

[mdmost 42,602]

2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Trump campaign on CNN saying it won’t be called tonight 

They scared. I thought it was in the bag?

It won't be called but that fuckface will try to declare victory regardless the second any returns go his way.