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1 hour ago, immamac said:

Lol as much shit as everyone wants to talk about the president-elect, I'm really surprised people haven't piled on more against Kamala. She's become completely irrelevant overnight. 

You kind of answer your own question there. The irrelevant are not usually targets for discussion.

I think the newsmedia assumption that there was surely a way for her to win did lead to a period panel discussions where she was criticized, but she's out of the picture now. 

I was shocked to read that her campaign burned through a billion dollars and is still asking for money. I was put off by how fervently they clawed us for cash. I went to her sight where I bought a sign and made a small contribution as well. There were pop-ups while I was entering payment information.

I unsubscribed as soon as I completed my purchase. Good advice from someone here.

I think this is an exercise in proving that a billion TV ads that cost tens of millions of dollars is not some guaranteed path. The TV news guys like to talk about money raising instead of issues, so I guess they're glad about it.

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8 hours ago, immamac said:

Lol as much shit as everyone wants to talk about the president-elect, I'm really surprised people haven't piled on more against Kamala. She's become completely irrelevant overnight. 

What's there to talk about? She lost. She's a lame duck VP. She's not doing or going to do anything newsworthy. She's not riling up supporters or going to incite an insurrection at the capitol.

Romney became irrelevant overnight. McCain and Kerry remained relevant as Senators and that's it. Gore became irrelevant overnight after the election was decided. Dole became irrelevant overnight, or maybe was even irrelevant before the election. This is how it's supposed to go. You keep your mouth shut.

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The Democratic Party needs to clean house and bring in a whole new set of people who can figure out how to capture the right data, combat disinformation, establish the right campaign strategies, develop the right messaging, and execute that messaging. And that whole turnaround needs to start now and continue mercilessly for the next four years. Bang the messaging drum constantly for four years, just like the Republicans do. 

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9 minutes ago, DaysOff said:

Find yourself a Bill Clinton that can lie and be a piece of shit when need be. It's what the people want.

100% this.

I wish that wasn't true.  Because Clinton is and always was loathsome.  But man, did people love him.  For similar reasons as Trump (vibes).  That's what it takes to win a presidential election in the US.  It's just the way it is.  We are a shitty people, so we insist on electing mostly shitty people.

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5 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:

We need a straight, white, male, AOC.

We need brain transplants for about 75% of our population. When you've got people saying they voted for Trump because "he'll save abortion", and huge spikes on election day in searches for "did Biden drop out?", you're in a different spot. Honestly I think name recognition did it. Everyone knows who Trump is. Half our fucking idiot population probably doesn't know who Kamala Harris is. 

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31 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:


Wait - are you bald or short? Gotta check all the TV boxes.

Apparently, being a shameless serial sexual predator is a pretty strong point in your favor.  Pussies are for grabbing, and shoving cigars into, apparently.  America: that's how we roll.

I'd say "sorry, ladies".....but enough women enthusiastically vote for that stuff that....yeah, I can't figure it out either.  Same reason I could never figure out how some gals I knew kept running from one abusive relationship to another.  But that's what they did, without fail.

So, we need an old white dude who is a sexual predator, and a good huckster with little regard for the truth.  That's how you win two terms in the White House.  The black dude?  What an anomaly.  And he broke our brains anyway.

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We need a straight, white, male, AOC. Instead of chasing an ever moving middle, go left. Run on Universal
health and tax cuts for everyone under $400k etc etc.

No. Just run on the economy. That’s the only thing that wins elections. After you win, you can literally implement any policy you want and history has shown Americans will shrug their shoulders and live with it. You just can’t run on any of that shit.
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I guess all of Trumps howling and disinformation spreading about the 2020 election being stolen and never actually admitting he lost worked very well in keeping him in power and in focus within MAGA GOP and kept him the presumptive nominee, couldn't move on even if they wanted to (they didn't) where as Democrats gonna forget Kamala exists even quicker than Trump forgot Pence existed...or had a right to be alive and not swinging from a rope...

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On 11/20/2024 at 8:30 AM, immamac said:

Lol as much shit as everyone wants to talk about the president-elect, I'm really surprised people haven't piled on more against Kamala. She's become completely irrelevant overnight. 

She always was irrelevant. A major loser in the 2020 primary who was DEI'd onto the Biden ticket and then selected by the powers that be to be the candidate. There was some brief attention paid to her because we had no other choice, but at no time since her announcement in 2019 has she been the driving force behind any policy ideas or political shift. Never a whiff of substance or importance about her.

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41 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

She always was irrelevant. A major loser in the 2020 primary who was DEI'd onto the Biden ticket and then selected by the powers that be to be the candidate. There was some brief attention paid to her because we had no other choice, but at no time since her announcement in 2019 has she been the driving force behind any policy ideas or political shift. Never a whiff of substance or importance about her.

LMFAO thinking Harris lost / Trump won because of fucking policy.  
 

Dems played loser identity politics.  If they’d ran a white male under 80 who kept quiet about trans and brown people, they would have won.  

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I still chuckle at least once daily at the poster - can't remember who it was but they crawled from the sewer as soon as the election results were known - who was trying to say we're all bad people for calling our dipshit-elect a dotard. They thought it was a combination of Donald and retard and really I cannot think of a better allegory for what is going on right now.

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5 hours ago, Snake Diggity said:

LMFAO thinking Harris lost / Trump won because of fucking policy.  
 

Dems played loser identity politics.  If they’d ran a white male under 80 who kept quiet about trans and brown people, they would have won.  

First part I agree with.   The second part was that the DP put up women to run.  America allowed black men to vote in the 1870 but needed 50 more years to allow women to vote.    It had nothing to do with policy, qualifications, decency, or whatever.  

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5 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

What are you talking about.

I was talking about Harris's (ir)relevance as a player in politics, not her campaign against Trump.

Keep up.

wtf are YOU talking about?  Your comment literally said “at no time since her announcement in 2019 has she been the driving force behind any policy ideas or political shift. Never a whiff of substance”, bringing forward the idea that she lost because she wasn’t the driving force behind any policy ideas and substance, as if that fucking mattered.

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12 hours ago, aggie08 said:

This is some moral victory ass shit.

The writers seem to think that if they can convince enough people in media that Trump doesn't have a "mandate," that will somehow meaningfully restrain Republicans. To which the obvious response is, "have you ever met any Republicans?"

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10 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

The writers seem to think that if they can convince enough people in media that Trump doesn't have a "mandate," that will somehow meaningfully restrain Republicans. To which the obvious response is, "have you ever met any Republicans?"

I took it as a dumb ass attempt to get Team morale up

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On 11/20/2024 at 6:13 PM, DaysOff said:

Find yourself a Bill Clinton that can lie and be a piece of shit when need be. It's what the people want.

Starts with being white male, which isn't winnable by itself.  But it's very difficult to keep a coalition of different wants together.  Anglos can look back and say we want to go back to feeling like we're in power.  No other ethnic group can do that, and they all have different ideas about achieving their desired end goal.  Some of us said it's all about racism, and are seeing that unions ran against their interests based on anti tran and immigrant legislation. What platform can the Democrats rally around that promotes racism?  Their platform will have to come after the fact--some economic collapse that reminds Americans that it's cheaper and more stable to live together. 

Edit: The divide is the one that the rich created and continuously cultivate.  

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