2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[kevwun 16269]

1 minute ago, henrygandorf said:

conway chimes in and basically says this isn't about men/women/sexism, it's about what voters see and hear from kamala - "we paid attention, and she's awful"

Kellyanne, you truly have a dizzying intellect.

[Upgrayedd 5860]

Lulz.  Client called tonight a “Gender Reveal”

[Hank Kingsley 21597]

Just now, Hook1997 said:

I’m not freaking arguing Trump isn’t an extremist at all.  Just the fact that both parties have gone more away from center, that’s it.  Which with polls of democrats since Clinton have proved. The other side I don’t even need to quote articles to prove obviously. I don’t understand why wanting both parties to be more center is a bad thing. 

Reagan pushed the entire country right in the 80s. So much so that Clinton was conservative, even for a Democrat. This was a long overdue course correction. 

 

[Js1 86913]

2 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

conway chimes in and basically says this isn't about men/women/sexism, it's about what voters see and hear from kamala - "we paid attention, and she's awful"

Meanwhile, WI GOP officials are freaking out about the gender gap

Even the GOP women have no idea what the average swing women voter thinks right now. 

[Dahobbs 18181]

2 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

I’m not freaking arguing Trump isn’t an extremist at all.  Just the fact that both parties have gone more away from center, that’s it.  Which with polls of democrats since Clinton have proved. The other side I don’t even need to quote articles to prove obviously. I don’t understand why wanting both parties to be more center is a bad thing. 

Still having trouble with those things called facts I see. What policies are you referring to the Democratic side. Name one. Go. 

[SubliminalHorn 6995]

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

The first 4 inches

Only the first 4?!

[RDCanecutter 26851]

4 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

if you hear banjo music from the woods don't go investigate.

My bougie neighbors probably expect to hear banjos from me.

[DixonHur 11938]

Just now, Upgrayedd said:

Lulz.  Client called tonight a “Gender Reveal”

I didn't know piles of shit had a gender

[Radical Larry 28813]

3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Motherfucker I posted that fucking picutre about 6 hours ago. Fucking 3 Putt up in this bitch. 

Wait until 3 putt posts it… twice. 

[kevwun 16269]

Spends years threatening people's rights and then be all shocked when they vote against you.

[Red Five 41590]

conway chimes in and basically says this isn't about men/women/sexism, it's about what voters see and hear from kamala - "we paid attention, and she's awful"

Lulz. She ran a virtually flawless campaign, even in this environment when D’s have to be perfect and it doesn’t matter wtf R’s do.

[SimonBolivar 11014]

Yall think this year is weird, wait until a 3x loser 86-year-old Trump is running on the expanded Florida ticket in 2032.

[Hermanator 7570]

28 minutes ago, Js1 said:

They are REALLY freaking out about turnout today

CLARK COUNTY NEVADA We need Republicans to vote today as we are UNDERPERFORMING significantly vs 2020 on Election Day. Do not get complacent with our early vote lead! R turnout in Clark is behind D turnout. At this same point in 2020, Rs had 41% of the Election Day vote - we are down to 33%. VOTE VOTE VOTE

These dumbasses are so bad at math they don't understand that telling their ghouls to only vote in person in 2020, and telling them the opposite this year, means they're going to have far less in person on election Day than in 2020. 

There's no one single extra voter for Trump this year than 4 years ago. A portion of his 2020 voters died from the pandemic or just old age. 

He's lost a lot of women, lost a lot of Puerto Ricans in a week, and is even losing some among men. There's no way enough uneducated black and Mexican-American men are going to make up the difference, especially in PA, WI, and MI. 

He's toast

[Valmy77 13567]

3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Uh, okay.

You mean the rural voters who vote 80-20 for Trump and are a shrinking demographic?  While college educated women is a much bigger demo and growing. 

 

I don't see the evidence for Kamala giving up on rural voters anyway. I have seen several pitches to them during her campaign by both Kamala and Walz.

But this is the second time I have heard this nonsense about Kamala going all in on women and ignoring everybody else. I haven't seen a single speech or campaign event she has done that was specifically for women only while I have seen several directed to rural voters.

[CTC2 2858]

6 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Galaxy brain at work

 

 

6 minutes ago, AnotherUTFan said:

About to do the same.

Tim-Walz-Hotdish-Download.pdf 431.84 kB · 0 downloads

As I sit waiting for a heart CT, regret sets in. 

[Hook1997 5486]

3 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Still having trouble with those things called facts I see. What policies are you referring to the Democratic side. Name one. Go. 

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-polarization-paradox-elected-officials-and-voters-have-shifted-in-opposite-directions/

[linux 1759]

6 minutes ago, Dr. Teeth said:

Shhhh! She’s a genius. We need more people like her. 

I really tried pushing that once, but MAGA is king of cognitive dissonance. it is "100% fraud!", but then they will immediately ask when is the next time they can vote, its not about reality but about their feelings, they are like a dog, if a dog could hate 24/7

Edited November 5 by linux

[Valmy77 13567]

3 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Still having trouble with those things called facts I see. What policies are you referring to the Democratic side. Name one. Go. 

I think it is a vibes thing. Sure the Democrats sent a dude from the 1970s into office in 2020, but it just feels more radical.

[Js1 86913]

Just now, Valmy77 said:

I don't see the evidence for Kamala giving up on rural voters anyway. I have seen several pitches to them during her campaign by both Kamala and Walz.

But this is the second time I have heard this nonsense about Kamala going all in on women and ignoring everybody else. I haven't seen a single speech or campaign event she has done that was specifically for women only while I have seen several directed to rural voters.

One of the things I saw earlier was that she hasn't repeatedly (that I can recall) brought up being the first woman president.  Or to use that as a reason to vote for her. 

Hillary talked about it a lot.  Yeah, her nomination was historic, but my god, her campaign did not shut up about it. 

[Chopper 17429]

Texas Monthly took a shot at what Texas congressional districts could look like if they were gerrymandered to a similar standard as what the fascists have done.

includes close-up of cities and also a bonus non-gerrymandered map https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/texas-gerrymandering-democrats/

[Dahobbs 18181]

2 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-polarization-paradox-elected-officials-and-voters-have-shifted-in-opposite-directions/

Name a fucking policy, stop posting opinion pieces and polls. What policy by Democrats evidences this massive swing to the left? 

[BamaATL 16593]

2 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

I don't see the evidence for Kamala giving up on rural voters anyway. I have seen several pitches to them during her campaign by both Kamala and Walz.

But this is the second time I have heard this nonsense about Kamala going all in on women and ignoring everybody else. I haven't seen a single speech or campaign event she has done that was specifically for women only while I have seen several directed to rural voters.

During the Falcons game this week (no salt in wound intended) on the radio she had ads geared towards farmers.  

[Pato del Muerto 53325]

2 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

 

As I sit waiting for a heart CT, regret sets in. 

Username bingo

[Celery Man 21076]

The guy who just helped me at ace hardware said he was for damn sure not going to cast a vote for Roy Cooper. His boss told him Cooper isn't on the ballot and what's his plan because he's closing tonight. Guy said "oh is it today"?

[Huckleberry 34403]

5 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

I’m not freaking arguing Trump isn’t an extremist at all.  Just the fact that both parties have gone more away from center, that’s it.  Which with polls of democrats since Clinton have proved. The other side I don’t even need to quote articles to prove obviously. I don’t understand why wanting both parties to be more center is a bad thing. The fact you have people like @Dahobbs and @Brisketexan negging anything they don’t agree with kinda proves my point.  

Democrats have spent the last two decades enacting policies that were created by Republicans. The Democratic Party has actually moved right but you don't realize it because Republicans have lurched way way more right and you don't have any actual principles other than feeling comfy in the middle. So you've moved right, too, and now Democrats feel further away from you because don't realize what's happened.  

[BamaATL 16593]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

One of the things I saw earlier was that she hasn't repeatedly (that I can recall) brought up being the first woman president.  Or to use that as a reason to vote for her. 

Hillary talked about it a lot.  Yeah, her nomination was historic, but my god, her campaign did not shut up about it. 

I think it was a wise move to stick the the issues of the day, and not all the precedent breaking.  

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

1 minute ago, Celery Man said:

The guy who just helped me at ace hardware said he was for damn sure not going to cast a vote for Roy Cooper. His boss told him Cooper isn't on the ballot and what's his plan because he's closing tonight. Guy said "oh is it today"?

well, sounds like he was right.

[BurntOrange&White 41633]

3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

One of the things I saw earlier was that she hasn't repeatedly (that I can recall) brought up being the first woman president.  Or to use that as a reason to vote for her. 

Hillary talked about it a lot.  Yeah, her nomination was historic, but my god, her campaign did not shut up about it. 

She did a masterful job of putting the country in front of her and going people forward.

[jimmyjazz 46958]

13 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Galaxy brain at work

Or, and work with me here Mindy, you could cast your ballot and then confirm it wasn't altered.

[Aqua Buddha 14781]

3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

One of the things I saw earlier was that she hasn't repeatedly (that I can recall) brought up being the first woman president.  Or to use that as a reason to vote for her. 

Hillary talked about it a lot.  Yeah, her nomination was historic, but my god, her campaign did not shut up about it. 

Harris knew that we knew.  

With Hillary, it was the entire thesis of her campaign.

[Gap03 3374]

2 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Texas Monthly took a shot at what Texas congressional districts could look like if they were gerrymandered to a similar standard as what the fascists have done.

includes close-up of cities and also a bonus non-gerrymandered map https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/texas-gerrymandering-democrats/

California should do this just to make a point ,,, I would love to see how Roberts would respond to a 52-0 House delegation.

[gmr548 16681]

1 hour ago, linux said:

So Dabo was kicked out of the polling booth because his son shared his same name, and these motherfuckers think we need IDs when your voting action is immediately tracked?

lmao what

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

Precinct numbers for the Pitt campus have already surpassed 2020 total numbers

 

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

They are REALLY freaking out about turnout today

CLARK COUNTY NEVADA We need Republicans to vote today as we are UNDERPERFORMING significantly vs 2020 on Election Day. Do not get complacent with our early vote lead! R turnout in Clark is behind D turnout. At this same point in 2020, Rs had 41% of the Election Day vote - we are down to 33%. VOTE VOTE VOTE

Look, I can buy the "R's have cannibalized their ED vote" line of thinking because a reversion to the mean makes sense but this is more than a little selectively interpreting data with the comparisons to 2020 ED specifically. We don't know shit about fuck.

34 minutes ago, quigley said:

But as it's population grows, it'll have more electoral votes. FL may surpass NY in the 2030 census.

It would be a little weird if it didn't given it surpassed NY in the 2020 Census and has more EVs now.

9 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

So basically they just submitted a Surly post chosen at random,

[Bozo_Casanova 26773]

6 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

I’m not freaking arguing Trump isn’t an extremist at all.  Just the fact that both parties have gone more away from center, that’s it.

I can't even believe this discourse is happening at this moment, and I'm not going to post on this further but the Democrats are not nearly as leftist at they were in the 80s. They are only more progressive on sexual morality.
Meanwhile, the GOP has gone from a pro-business party of social conservatives to an pro-inflation, pro-debt insurgent outlier party that nominated a convicted felon who led an attack on the United States Capital in pursuit oif stopping congress from performing ministerial duties under the constitution.

If you would like to have a "both sides" thread, my suggestion would be to start one. 

[scottsins 2039]

https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-liberal-voters-poll-1829683

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/14/opinion/obama-harris-progressives.html
There’s a lot of people that think both have gone too far away from center, it’s not like this is something new.  There’s plenty of charts and polls over the last ten years that prove that.  Sorry for having a different opinion than the norm in here.  There’s not much of a debate that both parties have gotten further and further apart steadily in the last ten years.  Are they the same no but good lord it’s shouldn’t be bad to point that out and negative reactions to that just prove the point more. One article said when Clinton was elected only 25% of democrats claimed to be liberal now it’s like 75%, there’s a difference now that’s all I’m saying. Just like most republicans use to not be blind Trump cult lovers.  I don’t get how saying the divide on both sides has gotten worse is a bad thing.  

Cool. So who did you vote for this year?

[Ted Lange 16347]

1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

Name a fucking policy, stop posting opinion pieces and polls. What policy by Democrats evidences this massive swing to the left? 

I think he is simply mistakingly saying "both" parties have gotten more radical in policies, to the country has become more polarized.   The MAGAt GOP has moved way further right than dems have left.    Now the Clay Travis/ELON bros of the world, think WOKE is a policy, so maybe that is what the policy he is referring to.

[Js1 86913]

Time to attempt a nap.  

 

[henrygandorf 29218]

9 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Meanwhile, WI GOP officials are freaking out about the gender gap

Even the GOP women have no idea what the average swing women voter thinks right now. 

rich women who watch fox news don't consider abortion an issue because they have the means to leave their state and get things done quietly.

this is not about sex, it's about class, and they're too fucking stupid to understand that.

[SimonBolivar 11014]

Just now, Js1 said:

Time to attempt a nap.  

 

How

[linux 1759]

CLEMSON, S.C. (AP) — It has been a rough few days for Clemson coach Dabo Swinney. First, his 19th-ranked Tigers lost to Louisville on Saturday night, then he was told he couldn’t vote Tuesday at his polling place.

Swinney, whose given name is William, explained that the voting system had locked him out, saying a “William Swinney” had already voted last week. Swinney said it was his oldest son, Will, and not him.

“They done voted me out of the state,” Swinney said. “We’re 6-2 and 5-1 (in the Atlantic Coast Conference), man. They done shipped me off.”

Dabo Swinney had to complete a paper ballot and was told there will be a hearing on Friday to resolve the issue.

“I was trying to do my best and be a good citizen and go vote,” he said. “Sometimes doing your best ain’t good enough. You have to keep going though, keep figuring it out.”

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/clemson-coach-dabo-swinney-challenged-at-poll-when-out-to-vote-in-election/

[Hermanator 7570]

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

 

Jokes aside, I'm legit worried for that guy's safety should Trump lose. 

He's a piece of shit. We'd all be better off

[Js1 86913]

Just now, SimonBolivar said:

How

I SAID ATTEMPT

[RDCanecutter 26851]

Voted about 11:30 in light-blue Birmingham suburb. Clicking along efficiently, I asked the poll workers how busy it was, they showed me the numbers on the machines, about double the usual.

No drama, even though I cosplayed wearing my replica Union Army belt buckle.

Saw one woman walk out from voting with a smile like she'd sent an abusive ex to prison.

Checking Instagram later, my local artsy friends are swarming the polls, some standing in hour-long lines. Maybe all the other people in those lines are Trumpy. Maybe they aren't.

['stache 22115]

1 minute ago, Huckleberry said:

Democrats have spent the last two decades enacting policies that were created by Republicans. The Democratic Party has actually moved right but you don't realize it because Republicans have lurched way way more right and you don't have any actual principles other than feeling comfy in the middle. So you've moved right, too, and now Democrats feel further away from you because don't realize what's happened.  

Seriously, that might be the dumbest post in months. Just a bunch of gullible dumbasses falling for the "everyone's a radical leftist" coming from republican campaigns. They just point to AOC or Bernie and pretend that they are the party and not the outliers. Anyone remember in the democratic primary when they were asked who supports Medicare for all and only Bernie (maybe Warren I don't remember) raised there hand? Anyone see that no democrat other than a handful are willing to come even close to criticizing Israel? Supporting the police in response to more vocal progressives calling for "defunding the police" etc.? This is why this country is doomed. People seriously are too dense to see propoganda when it's staring them in the fucking face.

[Valmy77 13567]

2 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-polarization-paradox-elected-officials-and-voters-have-shifted-in-opposite-directions/

It seems pretty obvious from that, that the parties have shifted with the voters.

Quote

But there’s a paradox: since the early 1990s, according to Gallup, Democratic voters have shifted more to the left than Republican voters have to the right. In 1994, the second year of Bill Clinton’s presidency, 25% of Democrats thought of themselves as liberal and the same share—25%—called themselves conservative. A strong plurality of Democrats—48%—identified as moderate.

By 2022, the second year of Joe Biden’s presidency, the picture had entirely changed. An outright majority of Democrats—54%—now called themselves liberal, while the share of conservatives fell to just 10%. Moderates, who once outnumbered the party’s liberals by 23 percentage points, now trailed them by 18 points.

and:

Quote

The Republican Party has changed far less during this period, largely because it has long been more ideologically homogeneous at the grassroots. In 1994, 58% of Republicans were conservative, a figure that rose to 72% in 2022. During these three decades, Republican moderates fell from 33% to 22% while Republican liberals (already an endangered species in the early 1990s), declined from eight percent to just five percent.

 

[Xminus6 839]

9 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

 

As I sit waiting for a heart CT, regret sets in. 

I had a colonscopy this morning. I’m hoping to flush several loads of shit tonight.

Edited November 5 by Xminus6

[BurntOrange&White 41633]

2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Time to attempt a nap.  

 

[henrygandorf 29218]

9 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

I don't see the evidence for Kamala giving up on rural voters anyway. I have seen several pitches to them during her campaign by both Kamala and Walz.

But this is the second time I have heard this nonsense about Kamala going all in on women and ignoring everybody else. I haven't seen a single speech or campaign event she has done that was specifically for women only while I have seen several directed to rural voters.

yeah, it's a right wing talking point.

i knew the speed of this thread would confuse my posts, but remember, i was quoting fox news. nobody on this board thinks that.

[Bullneck 19454]

24 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

You just going to take that, @texasdago?  Vendetta!

Owww!

[quigley 1565]

12 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

rich women who watch fox news don't consider abortion an issue because they have the means to leave their state and get things done quietly.

this is not about sex, it's about class, and they're too fucking stupid to understand that.

Or more commonly, they have medical (not surgical) abortions. If they need a surgical abortion, their OB/Gyn will do it and code for something else.

Edited November 5 by quigley

[Valmy77 13567]

8 minutes ago, Js1 said:

One of the things I saw earlier was that she hasn't repeatedly (that I can recall) brought up being the first woman president.  Or to use that as a reason to vote for her. 

Hillary talked about it a lot.  Yeah, her nomination was historic, but my god, her campaign did not shut up about it. 

Kamala has not, to the best of my knowledge, mentioned being a woman or a minority to any significant degree. Supposedly because Obama told her that she doesn't have to. It speaks for itself and bringing it up will make it sound like you are trying to shove it down people's throats.