2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[Hagbard Celine 10,849]

15 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

as much as i'd like to continue watching 4 blondos on tv, i'm tapping out.

will try to do more later, i love being an amateur stenographer.

thank you for your service, sir

[BurntOrange&White 39,930]

@Js1 drive your ass to the store, get a redbull with 5 hour energy chaser and get the fuck ready.

[Dahobbs 17,522]

1 minute ago, Valmy77 said:

Kamala has not, to the best of my knowledge, mentioned being a woman or a minority to any significant degree. Supposedly because Obama told her that she doesn't have to. It speaks for itself and bringing it up will make it sound like you are trying to shove it down people's throats.

Just like her race, she can change her sex at will. 

[softlynow 1,812]

15 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

I’m not freaking arguing Trump isn’t an extremist at all.  Just the fact that both parties have gone more away from center, that’s it.  Which with polls of democrats since Clinton have proved. The other side I don’t even need to quote articles to prove obviously. I don’t understand why wanting both parties to be more center is a bad thing. The fact you have people like @Dahobbs and @Brisketexan negging anything they don’t agree with kinda proves my point.  

Which Dem policy positions are far left?

[Valmy77 13,225]

Just now, henrygandorf said:

yeah, it's a right wing talking point.

i knew the speed of this thread would confuse my posts, but remember, i was quoting fox news. nobody on this board thinks that.

I didn't mean to say that you had said that. Just that this is the second time I have heard that and I was checking my sanity.

[Hook1997 5,351]

1 minute ago, Huckleberry said:

Democrats have spent the last two decades enacting policies that were created by Republicans. The Democratic Party has actually moved right but you don't realize it because Republicans have lurched way way more right and you don't have any actual principles other than feeling comfy in the middle. So you've moved right, too, and now Democrats feel further away from you because don't realize what's happened.  

Tell me you didn’t read the article without telling me you didn’t read the article….   

 

3 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Name a fucking policy, stop posting opinion pieces and polls. What policy by Democrats evidences this massive swing to the left? 

What’s the point?  You aren’t going to agree with any of it.  Both have moved farther apart on almost all issues.  There’s plenty of examples out there, this isn’t news to most people.  Women’s rights and immigration fuck the Republicans for sure.  It’s the rest they keep getting farther apart on but you and plenty others don’t see it obviously.  Literally posted a poll of democrats and their stance and how it’s changed.  There is no middle anymore on anything.  

[Basil 754]

11 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

These dumbasses are so bad at math they don't understand that telling their ghouls to only vote in person in 2020, and telling them the opposite this year, means they're going to have far less in person on election Day than in 2020. 

There's no one single extra voter for Trump this year than 4 years ago. A portion of his 2020 voters died from the pandemic or just old age. 

He's lost a lot of women, lost a lot of Puerto Ricans in a week, and is even losing some among men. There's no way enough uneducated black and Mexican-American men are going to make up the difference, especially in PA, WI, and MI. 

He's toast

You better be right or I'm going to break a vodka bottle over your head.

[quigley 1,558]

2 minutes ago, linux said:

CLEMSON, S.C. (AP) — It has been a rough few days for Clemson coach Dabo Swinney. First, his 19th-ranked Tigers lost to Louisville on Saturday night, then he was told he couldn’t vote Tuesday at his polling place.

Swinney, whose given name is William, explained that the voting system had locked him out, saying a “William Swinney” had already voted last week. Swinney said it was his oldest son, Will, and not him.

“They done voted me out of the state,” Swinney said. “We’re 6-2 and 5-1 (in the Atlantic Coast Conference), man. They done shipped me off.”

Dabo Swinney had to complete a paper ballot and was told there will be a hearing on Friday to resolve the issue.

“I was trying to do my best and be a good citizen and go vote,” he said. “Sometimes doing your best ain’t good enough. You have to keep going though, keep figuring it out.”

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/clemson-coach-dabo-swinney-challenged-at-poll-when-out-to-vote-in-election/

I'd like Dabo not to vote. Sit this one out and focus on the defense.

[Valmy77 13,225]

1 minute ago, Hook1997 said:

What’s the point?  You aren’t going to agree with any of it. 

Then why did you start this conversation? Just to purposely take it nowhere?

That is BS anyway. I thought I was addressing your points fairly.

Edited November 5 by Valmy77

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1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

I can't hardly do this.  I'm "working" from home but I'm a mess.  What flick should I stream?

Dr Strangelove

[Slacks 6,819]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Okay, here is where I am:

Snacks - secured (Peach rings, red vines, sour gummy worms)

"Fun stuff" - secured (some good hybrid gummies from my new fave budtender while we bonded over both of us wearing Astros hats and being from the same part of Houston)

Nap - coming up

Dinner - not Chili's 

whoa, whoa, whoa...

i like Snacks and Fun stuff... I'd love a nap, but that's out of the question.... and I'm considering a fast today, to be ready for Chili's tomorrow.

And I am in Houston.

Edited November 5 by Slacks

[SubliminalHorn 6,782]

I was gonna try a nap too since I’m working night shift tonight too, but I don’t think it’s gonna happen 

[linux 1,660]

@quigley Yeah, I don't see evidence of MAGA, but the point is if he can't vote then nobody needs fucking  ID to vote.

Edited November 5 by linux

[hookem2010 2,623]

6 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Time to attempt a nap.  

 

Booooooo

[Dahobbs 17,522]

2 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

Tell me you didn’t read the article without telling me you didn’t read the article….   

 

What’s the point?  You aren’t going to agree with any of it.  Both have moved farther apart on almost all issues.  There’s plenty of examples out there, this isn’t news to most people.  Women’s rights and immigration fuck the Republicans for sure.  It’s the rest they keep getting farther apart on but you and plenty others don’t see it obviously.  Literally posted a poll of democrats and their stance and how it’s changed.  There is no middle anymore on anything.  

So you got fucking nothing. You can't name one fucking policy, one fucking piece of legislation to prove your stupid fucking point. There is no middle for one reason and one reason only: the right has gone fucking looney tunes and is so far right, anything middle would look to be right of fucking Hitler. 

[Slacks 6,819]

1 hour ago, BamaATL said:

We aren't losing in Georgia.  I said it about 30 posts ago, but if this helps you, I can do it again.  

[Jatrain 288]

2 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

Tell me you didn’t read the article without telling me you didn’t read the article….   

 

What’s the point?  You aren’t going to agree with any of it.  Both have moved farther apart on almost all issues.  There’s plenty of examples out there, this isn’t news to most people.  Women’s rights and immigration fuck the Republicans for sure.  It’s the rest they keep getting farther apart on but you and plenty others don’t see it obviously.  Literally posted a poll of democrats and their stance and how it’s changed.  There is no middle anymore on anything.  

Could you be anymore of a pussy?  Just name one of your “plenty of examples”. 

[Chopper 17,230]

4 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Seriously, that might be the dumbest post in months. Just a bunch of gullible dumbasses falling for the "everyone's a radical leftist" coming from republican campaigns. They just point to AOC or Bernie and pretend that they are the party and not the outliers. Anyone remember in the democratic primary when they were asked who supports Medicare for all and only Bernie (maybe Warren I don't remember) raised there hand? Anyone see that no democrat other than a handful are willing to come even close to criticizing Israel? Supporting the police in response to more vocal progressives calling for "defunding the police" etc.? This is why this country is doomed. People seriously are too dense to see propoganda when it's staring them in the fucking face.

Maybe it's just me but I think y'all are saying the same thing. But also I haven't paid attention to the entire dialogue you've had. 

[RDCanecutter 26,379]

Oh, and on that Chili's thing, I know I'm early, but as a Cavalry Scout I felt that I should go check it out in advance.

[hookem2010 2,623]

Paul Rudd handing out water to people in line at Temple U

[Chewbacca 7,766]

6 minutes ago, Xminus6 said:

I had a colonscopy this morning. I’m hoping to flush several loads of shit tonight.

Nah, you did that yesterday.  Gotta fill back up first.

[Js1 85,270]

Just now, hookem2010 said:

Paul Rudd handing out water to people in line at Temple U

Temple kids are funny. “How long you been waiting” “idk, lost count” “they say it could be 2 more hours” “that’s fine, I got nothing else to do” 

[Dahobbs 17,522]

1 minute ago, Chopper said:

Maybe it's just me but I think y'all are saying the same thing. But also I haven't paid attention to the entire dialogue you've had. 

He meant @Hook1997's post was stupid. Not the one he quoted. 

[henrygandorf 29,189]

 

[RDCanecutter 26,379]

4 minutes ago, quigley said:

I'd like Dabo not to vote. Sit this one out and focus on the defense.

Dabo sounds like when he talks, it should come out auto-tuned.

[Underdog 28,545]

Paul Rudd handing out water at one of the polls in Philly. 

[Dr. Teeth 5,843]

14 minutes ago, linux said:

I really tried pushing that once, but MAGA is king of cognitive dissonance. it is "100% fraud!", but then they will immediately ask when is the next time they can vote, its not about reality but about their feelings, they are like a dog, if a dog could hate 24/7

More than likely is that she voted and will now find fraud with her vote being cast…by her. But her stupidity is in publicizing it. More of her ilk will think she is smart and want to do it themselves. Thus her future fraud claims will not be as impactful. 

[BevoAbyss 2,058]

1 hour ago, immamac said:

trump in 2020 and 2016 were kinda just shitty guy does shitty things, this time he's straight up gone full on fascist and batshit. It's not even remotely close to his previous campaigns and rhetoric. 

Nah ... Trump was racist and fascist in 2016 and 2020. Just because you didn't see it, does not mean Trump was not a fascist. All that was needed was to truly open your eyes and mind and know some history. 

-- People in my artsy-intellectual circles were saying he was fascist -- Mussolini style -- during the 2016 campaign. I was saying it in 2016. Almost no one believed us. 

-- 99.99999% of American were in denial. Hell, even today, the vast overwhelming majority of Americans, media, and pundits are in denial. "Trump is a fascist" is not said in the polite worlds of legacy, mainstream media, corporate boardrooms, art museum cocktail parties, church socials, and so on.  

-- In 2016, the American Exceptionalism myth blinded everyone, still does for most. The Apprentice Show was a BS smoke screen "You're Fired!!" was code for "Fuck You! I am a dictator." 

-- in 2020, Trump was leading a mass death campaign -- via Covid -- and no one was saying it is fascist. But it was. Don't forget, the early deaths were in heavily populated urban Democratic areas.

Since 2016, Trump has been continually acting like a fascist dictator... mostly baby steps beginning in 2016. Well, let's see no one is stopping me, so let's ramp it up into 2020 and beyond. No one has stopped him yet, so he's dialed up to full-on Fascist, 100% all the time. 

--  Musk was watching all this and said, why not, I will publicly be the fascist I am on the inside.

Bottom line: Trump is a fascist, was a fascist, and will always be a fascist -- by any dictionary definition.

The larger problem is why so much of America refused to believe what is right before their eyes. And now it might be too late. 

 

Edited November 5 by BevoAbyss

[The Dog 44,018]

 

[Valmy77 13,225]

Just now, Jatrain said:

Could you be anymore of a pussy?  Just name one of your “plenty of examples”. 

I can think of some. LGBTQ+ stuff like allowing gay marriage and being nice to trans people.

Abandoning free trade to an extent and going back to aiding Unions...to an extent. Trying to raise the national minimum wage. Doing some things to fight climate change.

Stuff like that.

All things that I like and I support but I guess if you are a 1990s type Democrat who wants big crime bills, free trade bills, and cozying up to big business you might be annoyed.

[Ted Lange 16,083]

Just now, Underdog said:

Paul Rudd handing out water at one of the polls in Philly. 

My guess is he is at TempleU

[quigley 1,558]

1 minute ago, linux said:

@quigley Yeah, I don't see evidence of MAGA, but the point is if he can't vote then nobody needs fucking voter ID to vote.

If you're talking about Dabo, I'm extrapolating from White Southern hyper-religious football coach = Trump voter (not that 1 vote in SC matters).

Mostly i was joking because nothing is at stake in SC this year.

Bigger point, we certainly agree, voter ID is a voter suppression tool.

[linux 1,660]

1 minute ago, BevoAbyss said:

Nah ... Trump was racist and fascist in 2016 and 2020. Just because you didn't see it, does not mean Trump was not a fascist. All that was needed was to truly open your eyes and mind and know some history. 

-- People in my artsy-intellectual circles were saying he was fascist -- Mussolini style -- during the 2016 campaign. I was saying it in 2016. Almost no one believed us. 

-- 99.99999% of American were in denial. Hell, even today, the vast overwhelming majority of Americans, media, and pundits are in denial. "Trump is a fascist" is not said in the polite worlds of legacy, mainstream media, corporate boardrooms, art museum cocktail parties, church socials, and so on.  

-- In 2016, the American Exceptionalism myth blinded everyone, still does for most. The Apprentice Show was a BS smoke screen "You're Fired!!" was code for "Fuck You! I am a dictator." 

-- in 2020, Trump was leading a mass death campaign -- via Covid -- and no one was saying it is fascist. But it was. Don't forget, the early deaths were in heavily populated urban Democratic areas.

Since 2016, has been continually acting like a fascist dictator... baby steps beginning in 2016. Well, let's see no one is stopping me, so let's ramp it up into 2020 and beyond. No one has stopped him yet, so he's dialed up to full-on Fascist, 100% all the time.

--  Musk was watching all this and said, why not, I will publicly be the fascist I am on the inside.

Bottom line: Trump is a fascist, was a fascist, and will always be a fascist -- by any dictionary definition.

The larger problem is why so much of America refused to believe what was right before their eyes. And now it might be too late. 

 

Trump was a fascist in 2016, he is a neo nazi now.

[Dahobbs 17,522]

2 minutes ago, Dr. Teeth said:

More than likely is that she voted and will now find fraud with her vote being cast…by her. But her stupidity is in publicizing it. More of her ilk will think she is smart and want to do it themselves. Thus her future fraud claims will not be as impactful. 

Voting for Kamala to own the liberals. 

[wildcat09 29,343]

I'd like to thank @Hook1997 for validating my theory:

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And there was a time in our history where policies like free school lunch WERE actually new and very progressive. Hell, there was a time in our history where public education was new and very progressive. People quite literally fought and died to have a weekend.  The whole idea about what is "moderate" or in the "center" isn't actually about any specific policies at all but about how most people want to view themselves. Most people aren't comfortable thinking of themselves as part of an extreme and so they don't want to support ideas that people around them who they like and respect think are extreme.

The right built up such a big right-wing propaganda machine that they managed to convince millions of people that feeding kids at school is dangerous extremism.  Tons of communities now believe that because it's what the people they trust on TV say and what their friends and family and neighbors say. But that's actually a very easy bubble to pierce and you do it like Walz has: when challenged on it you stand firm and say something like "what a monster, kids got food and now can learn!" It's easy to show there's not some great harm in feeding kids, and it's not like it's too fucking expensive.  There are all sorts of other issues like this too that the Dems should be more aggressively championing instead of running away from, but the prior generation of Democratic leadership was too traumatized from coming up under Reaganism too know how to fight.

 

[Slacks 6,819]

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

The first 4 inches

[Aqua Buddha 14,582]

4 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

Paul Rudd handing out water to people in line at Temple U

That line is insane.  Lulz at Trump winning PA.

[Mileslong 4,728]

I’m seriously about to lose it

[Hook1997 5,351]

3 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

So you got fucking nothing. You can't name one fucking policy, one fucking piece of legislation to prove your stupid fucking point. There is no middle for one reason and one reason only: the right has gone fucking looney tunes and is so far right, anything middle would look to be right of fucking Hitler. 

Not arguing the last part at all.  But literally democrats themselves in polls say they have moved more left.  What part of that are you so angry about?  Like what’s making this visceral reaction happen?  Everything ok at home?  The fact you use fucking so many times proves you won’t listen to any logical argument of a view you don’t agree with obviously.  

[henrygandorf 29,189]

ga counties extending voting hours because of non-credible bomb threats. 

[jimmyjazz 45,881]

Is Rudd filming in Philadelphia?  Why would he be there?  Just a political trip?

[DixonHur 11,292]

3 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

Need pics to decide

[aggie08 21,482]

24 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

I’m not freaking arguing Trump isn’t an extremist at all.  Just the fact that both parties have gone more away from center, that’s it.  Which with polls of democrats since Clinton have proved. The other side I don’t even need to quote articles to prove obviously. I don’t understand why wanting both parties to be more center is a bad thing. The fact you have people like @Dahobbs and @Brisketexan negging anything they don’t agree with kinda proves my point.  

American Democrats, in 2024, are much further right than pretty much any major liberal party in any other first world country. I'm not even sure it's debatable. 

What a completely asinine attempt at a point.

[quigley 1,558]

6 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Oh, and on that Chili's thing, I know I'm early, but as a Cavalry Scout I felt that I should go check it out in advance.

pace yourself dude

[mdmost 42,999]

1 minute ago, henrygandorf said:

ga counties extending voting hours because of non-credible bomb threats. 

I'm honestly shocked there wasn't more of this in places like Detroit and Philly. 

Edited November 5 by mdmost

[Pancho 44,694]

Lulz

 

['stache 21,795]

5 minutes ago, BevoAbyss said:

Nah ... Trump was racist and fascist in 2016 and 2020. Just because you didn't see it, does not mean Trump was not a fascist. All that was needed was to truly open your eyes and mind and know some history. 

-- People in my artsy-intellectual circles were saying he was fascist -- Mussolini style -- during the 2016 campaign. I was saying it in 2016. Almost no one believed us. 

-- 99.99999% of American were in denial. Hell, even today, the vast overwhelming majority of Americans, media, and pundits are in denial. "Trump is a fascist" is not said in the polite worlds of legacy, mainstream media, corporate boardrooms, art museum cocktail parties, church socials, and so on.  

-- In 2016, the American Exceptionalism myth blinded everyone, still does for most. The Apprentice Show was a BS smoke screen "You're Fired!!" was code for "Fuck You! I am a dictator." 

-- in 2020, Trump was leading a mass death campaign -- via Covid -- and no one was saying it is fascist. But it was. Don't forget, the early deaths were in heavily populated urban Democratic areas.

Since 2016, has been continually acting like a fascist dictator... baby steps beginning in 2016. Well, let's see no one is stopping me, so let's ramp it up into 2020 and beyond. No one has stopped him yet, so he's dialed up to full-on Fascist, 100% all the time.

--  Musk was watching all this and said, why not, I will publicly be the fascist I am on the inside.

Bottom line: Trump is a fascist, was a fascist, and will always be a fascist -- by any dictionary definition.

The larger problem is why so much of America refused to believe what was right before their eyes. And now it might be too late. 

 

My feeling is that it was mostly hyperbole at the time and his fat lazy ass really didn't do much while in office to follow through on that bullshit, not to mention that he was clearly told no multiple times by people in his own administration, in the military, and in congress. Jan 6 was the first time his words truly turned into something resembling a banana republic with a true coup attempt and a legitimate act of fascism, trying to stay in power against the will of the people. Which why so many of us are just befuddled that he not only got the nomination without any pushback but that he's considered a legitimate contender.

Edited November 5 by 'stache

[RDCanecutter 26,379]

1 minute ago, Mileslong said:

I’m seriously about to lose it

What if that prayer is answered and Trump's lawyers get smacked down?

[BamaATL 16,593]

Just now, henrygandorf said:

ga counties extending voting hours because of non-credible bomb threats. 

3 polling locations were impacted, 30 min extensions.  All threats deemed non credible.  

[kevwun 15,759]

Just now, Pancho said:

Lulz

 

The tears are going to be so sweet.