2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[Bullneck 19184]

 

 

[Js1 85444]

5 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

 

 

The media loves to tell people (Dems) to drop out

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2008/04/drop-out-obama-1.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/12/what-would-happen-if-hillary-clinton-drops-out-of-us-election-ra/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1949789/US-elections-Hillary-Clinton-about-to-drop-out.html

[Red Five 40875]

It was a woefully incapacitated candidate that happens to be our current president. What I saw was not a cold. 

He has no verbal skills anymore. I have no doubt he’s still with it, but he can’t communicate. Which is a problem.

[Pancho 44861]

Online chatter (mostly maga) that trunp is picking Ranaswamamy as his VP

[SubliminalHorn 6808]

6 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Online chatter (mostly maga) that trunp is picking Ranaswamamy as his VP

That would be a choice 

[troph 24879]

So mainstream media says Biden should drop out but Trump just gets to run for office? What in the actual fuck? 

No fuck you NYT. Your “opinion” needs to be any dead guy would be better than Trump, Biden is our guy. If anyone should be forced to drop out it’s the convicted felon Trump. Let’s roll. 

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[Bozo_Casanova 26504]

29 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The media loves to tell people (Dems) to drop out

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2008/04/drop-out-obama-1.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/12/what-would-happen-if-hillary-clinton-drops-out-of-us-election-ra/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1949789/US-elections-Hillary-Clinton-about-to-drop-out.html

Yes but two of those were right. The thing affluent white progressives don’t seem to care about is the fact that while winning is not the only thing that matters, it is the only thing that’s required. If you don’t win you ain’t shit. 

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[PenelopeWitherspoon 19122]

Trump should drop out as he is a fucking traitor. Why are Dems held to a different standard? It's ridiculous.

[WhatTheBuck 28791]

41 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Online chatter (mostly maga) that trunp is picking Ranaswamamy as his VP

No way that happens. Would be cool, though. I think that would be a disastrous pick. 

[CTC2 2797]

2 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

It was a woefully incapacitated candidate that happens to be our current president. What I saw was not a cold. 

No one said it was. My only point was that you were throwing around the word dementia and that’s not his issue.  

[troph 24879]

Fuck the magats feigning concern for POTUS competency, I mean really, fuck off.

[Rex Kramer 1343]

29 minutes ago, troph said:

Fuck the magats feigning concern for POTUS competency, I mean really, fuck off.

Who are you talking about?

[troph 24879]

Just now, Rex Kramer said:

Who are you talking about?

Everyone that votes for Trump and makes the argument. If that includes you then you too. Every last fucking one of you. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26504]

58 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Trump should drop out as he is a fucking traitor. Why are Dems held to a different standard? It's ridiculous.

Because Democrats are the normalcy alternative. Of course the standard is different.

[Slacks 6824]

13 hours ago, Captainant said:

for as long as dollars matter more than people

In a country that fought a war against itself over keeping some people as actual dollars...

[Rex Kramer 1343]

16 minutes ago, troph said:

Everyone that votes for Trump and makes the argument. If that includes you then you too. Every last fucking one of you. 

That is what I was getting at, whether or not you think I’m maga. I’ve never been and as I said in another thread, wouldn’t vote for him if I had full blown aids and he had the cure for a vote. And, I never voted for him in the past.  

I do not dislike Biden. Not my favorite, but he’s a terrible current candidate in the current landscape. And that concerns me greatly, because he’s got little shot of winning. 

[Rex Kramer 1343]

18 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Because Democrats are the normalcy alternative. Of course the standard is different.

It’s upsetting Dems aren’t more ruthless. The electorate is being held hostage by both parties. Dems have a much more understandable position. 

[mchookem 16338]

once again, all together...

"if democrats were bigger assholes we'd all be better off!"

[Biff Tannen 45692]

8 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

And that concerns me greatly, because he’s got little shot of winning. 

How do you know this?

[NWBuck 8571]

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

The media loves to tell people (Dems) to drop out

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2008/04/drop-out-obama-1.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/12/what-would-happen-if-hillary-clinton-drops-out-of-us-election-ra/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1949789/US-elections-Hillary-Clinton-about-to-drop-out.html

Here's another one 

https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/editorials/first-presidential-debate-joe-biden-donald-trump-withdraw-20240629.html

 

[David Dennison 18938]

13 minutes ago, Slacks said:

In a country that fought a war against itself over keeping some people as actual dollars...

Unfortunately, that sad bit of American history has fingerprints all over the Constitution.

[Bozo_Casanova 26504]

Just now, Rex Kramer said:

It’s upsetting Dems aren’t more ruthless. The electorate is being held hostage by both parties. Dems have a much more understandable position. 

They are plenty ruthless. Unfortunately they are also dorks and losers who treat winning elections as a subordinate outcome to being superior in any number of ways. 

Remember the Wendy Davis filibuster? There was an effort to make a movie about it. Democratic consultants and donors etc felt that was an inspiring story, and tried to make it happen.
The reason why it didn’t happen was that the Hollywood people couldn’t figure out how losing a vote on the same bill three weeks later and then losing the gubernatorial race that followed in a landslide was inspiring. Later someone who was tangentially involved in the effort said that the movie people had “internalized a right wing narrative.”

@Brisketexan will likely remember that I said in 2019 or so that the model for the national Democratic Party was the Texas Democratic Party. My opinion hasn’t changed: when a party organizes people and process to do anything other than winning, what happens is losing. It’s not complicated. 

[Rex Kramer 1343]

8 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

How do you know this?

Because I have two eyes and ears and a brain. But I could be wrong. And the Cowboys could also win the Super Bowl this year. 

[Brian Fantana 6689]

45 minutes ago, troph said:

Everyone that votes for Trump and makes the argument. If that includes you then you too. Every last fucking one of you. 

He's literally the walking, talking, typing avatar of the concept of concern trolling.

[Captainant 27682]

19 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Because I have two eyes and ears and a brain. But I could be wrong. And the Cowboys could also win the Super Bowl this year. 

Lmfao you think that "rex is wrong" is equally likely to the cowbs winning for the first time in a generation?

[Bullneck 19184]

 

[Pato del Muerto 52531]

5 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Lmfao you think that "rex is wrong" is equally likely to the cowbs winning for the first time in a generation?

Has it really been just the one generation?

[YGIFS 19452]

19 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

 

Yes, tell me more about this "political chaos" in contemporary America.  Certainly hasn't happened over the last 8 years.  Is Grimace's Auntie fucking new here to our timeline or what?  

[troph 24879]

1 hour ago, Rex Kramer said:

That is what I was getting at, whether or not you think I’m maga. I’ve never been and as I said in another thread, wouldn’t vote for him if I had full blown aids and he had the cure for a vote. And, I never voted for him in the past.  

I do not dislike Biden. Not my favorite, but he’s a terrible current candidate in the current landscape. And that concerns me greatly, because he’s got little shot of winning. 

I said if wrt to you. If with respect to anyone. 

[Rex Kramer 1343]

1 hour ago, Brian Fantana said:

He's literally the walking, talking, typing avatar of the concept of concern trolling.

Not at all trolling. I surmise you think that because of our Israel differences. 

49 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Lmfao you think that "rex is wrong" is equally likely to the cowbs winning for the first time in a generation?

Actually Biden winning would be less of a surprise than a non-Jimmy (or Parcells) Boys team winning in the Jerry era. Was just trying to make a point that most here feel in a dreadfully strong way. 

[Rex Kramer 1343]

1 minute ago, troph said:

I said if wrt to you. If with respect to anyone. 

Respectfully, you’re wrong. I’m ardently anti-maga. I actually got into a fight with my younger more liberal brother on the topic last weekend. 

[troph 24879]

30 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Yes, tell me more about this "political chaos" in contemporary America.  Certainly hasn't happened over the last 8 years.  Is Grimace's Auntie fucking new here to our timeline or what?  

The most compelling arguments are the untested nature of other candidates and the campaign apparatus for Biden vs a newly elevated candidate. I agree with her the movie version makes sense but in the real world of politics it’s too late, Biden had to decline the nomination before the primary.

[troph 24879]

1 minute ago, Rex Kramer said:

Respectfully, you’re wrong. I’m ardently anti-maga. I actually got into a fight with my younger more liberal brother on the topic last weekend. 

I’m not wrong I didn’t say what you were one way or the other. I’m unfamiliar with your posts. So I said if. Others I am familiar with so I know. I made the statement because pundits posters and others who are magats have also been saying Biden should step down. Fuck any magat who says that. Trump is the one that should be forced to step down. If you agree great. Either way go argue with someone else. You say you aren’t a trumper fine. 

[Rex Kramer 1343]

55 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

 

She’s probably right. And smart candidates like a Newsome or Whitmer know that and would probably be unwilling. They’ve gotta have a full year prior to November at a minimum to gear up in many aspects. 

[Captainant 27682]

9 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

I’m ardently anti-maga.

And I'm the queen of England

[Rex Kramer 1343]

6 minutes ago, troph said:

I’m not wrong I didn’t say what you were one way or the other. I’m unfamiliar with your posts. So I said if. Others I am familiar with so I know. I made the statement because pundits posters and others who are magats have also been saying Biden should step down. Fuck any magat who says that. Trump is the one that should be forced to step down. If you agree great. Either way go argue with someone else. You say you aren’t a trumper fine. 

I’m not arguing with you. Thought you were saying I was maga. 

 

1 minute ago, Captainant said:

And I'm the queen of England

I am. I detest the guy and his ardent supporters. Most of my peers are Trump voters and do not like it. I never have been. Have always hated him. Mainly for business reasons. 

[David Dennison 18938]

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

They are plenty ruthless. Unfortunately they are also dorks and losers who treat winning elections as a subordinate outcome to being superior in any number of ways. 

Remember the Wendy Davis filibuster? There was an effort to make a movie about it. Democratic consultants and donors etc felt that was an inspiring story, and tried to make it happen.
The reason why it didn’t happen was that the Hollywood people couldn’t figure out how losing a vote on the same bill three weeks later and then losing the gubernatorial race that followed in a landslide was inspiring. Later someone who was tangentially involved in the effort said that the movie people had “internalized a right wing narrative.”

@Brisketexan will likely remember that I said in 2019 or so that the model for the national Democratic Party was the Texas Democratic Party. My opinion hasn’t changed: when a party organizes people and process to do anything other than winning, what happens is losing. It’s not complicated. 

Speaking of dorks and losers, have you checked out the GOP roll call lately?

[troph 24879]

3 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

I’m not arguing with you. Thought you were saying I was maga. 

 

I am. I detest the guy and his ardent supporters. Most of my peers are Trump voters and do not like it. I never have been. Have always hated him. Mainly for business reasons. 

It fine, I’m really fucking pissed about this election and the systemic legitimization of a convicted felon, still awaiting 3 more trials? A rapist, civilly liable fraudster, twice impeached, insurrectionist, and pathological liar. How ever fucking newspaper and magazine and news show isn’t repeating this over and over is beyond me. If he’s not even going to try and tell the truth then he should be forcibly run off the debate stage. Fuck each and every magat. 

[troph 24879]

I want to make a yard sign or bumper sticker but it’s too long 😕

 

If you are voting for the candidate who is a convicted felon, found civilly liable for fraud, rapist, insurrectionist, twice impeached, still awaiting three more criminal trials, and a pathological liar then YOU are the problem.
 

[TDunk 590]

1 hour ago, Rex Kramer said:

I’m not arguing with you. Thought you were saying I was maga. 

 

I am. I detest the guy and his ardent supporters. Most of my peers are Trump voters and do not like it. I never have been. Have always hated him. Mainly for business reasons. 

In what way?  

[Rex Kramer 1343]

48 minutes ago, TDunk said:

In what way?  

I mean I disliked him long before he became a political figure. 

[SKJ 1311]

22 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

Biden has done a really good job and mostly restored America’s place in the world. But he simply can’t run this time. If he wins, he would be 86 years old at the end of the term. There is no possible way an 86 year old can do the duties he is required. This is just the nature of the human condition.

Not one of here would want an 80+ year old boss. And Harris isn’t the answer. 99% of America (and the world) couldn’t pick her out of a lineup.

The fate of democracy is at stake. I hope Joe will do the right thing…

My grandfather built an addition to his house out of brick at 85. 

My father just built an addition to his house at 81.

Not saying that's somehow presidential, but for fuck's sake,  Biden isn't the only motherfucker running this shit,  not by a Longshot.

 

[Pancho 44861]

Deleted—the meeting is really just a routine meeting he has all the time with his fam, not necessarily about the election. 

[Pancho 44861]

 

[Neonmoon 38129]

Perfect summation

“Republicans have no principles and Democrats have no spine. At the first sign of adversity, the Democrats want to replace the incumbent President.”

Democrats are the biggest pussies. 

[troph 24879]

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

 

Worth watching.

[Red Five 40875]

1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

Perfect summation

“Republicans have no principles and Democrats have no spine. At the first sign of adversity, the Democrats want to replace the incumbent President.”

Democrats are the biggest pussies. 

It's a little more complicated than that. Losing in 2024 isn't an option, and we all saw what Thursday night looked like. 

[troph 24879]

Pancho’s tweet is important, debates have zero predictive value. That rubric is really interesting too. 
 

Edited June 30 by troph

[Sawbonz 27580]

19 minutes ago, troph said:

Pancho’s tweet is important, debates have zero predictive value. That rubric is really interesting too. 
 

It’s not the debate per se. it’s how Biden looked. He needs to be out in public, frequently, looking the way he looked in NC. And personally attacking Trump repeatedly. Hammer home the rapist, lying, pornstar fucking, fraud committing, felon narrative 

[Neonmoon 38129]

And fuck the American people for allowing the candidates decide how they will be questioned.

We are the biggest bunch of soft serve pussies. 

One guy won't agree to a debate unless he's not allowed to be fact checked fpr lying by the moderator, and one guy won't debate unless the turn the other's guy's mic off because he can't handle being talked over. We love letting people fuck us in the ass. 

THEY won't agree. Fuck them. This is how you debate, and if you YOU don't fucking like it, then YOU can't be President. Jesus Christ.