2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[hornbri 1511]

5 minutes ago, Helobious said:

He apparently registered as a Republican when he turned 18 and had only voted once, in 2022, and never again. Doesn’t seem like a sleeper agent situation. Could be a kid that just changed his views, or a Nick Fuentes fanboy that was mad at Trump. Or just another angry mentally sick young man that wanted some fame. We’ll probably never know.

He also donated to a progressive group so who knows how he really felt. 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/7/14/what-we-know-about-thomas-matthew-crooks-the-suspected-trump-rally-shooter

 

[aggie08 21839]

4 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

At least this event took focus off all of the democrats publicly calling for Biden to exit the race. They need to figure all this out behind closed doors outside the public eye. 

Not exactly what I was hoping for when I said that the Democrat's best chance is for Trump to do something crazy to take back the news cycle.

[aggie08 21839]

49 minutes ago, 3adays said:

Yes, upper class white women who couldn’t get to their Whole Foods because every major American city had riots can definitely be scared into voting for perceived peace. 

Dude. You're hoping that well-off white people who immediately associate "BLM" with "business crippling riots" are going to save the Biden candidacy. Shit. We are fucked.

[Macanudo 13328]

25 minutes ago, Helobious said:

I will say the shooter being a young white guy isn’t going to give Trump the bump that it would’ve had the shooter been in one of “those” groups. 
 

And how stupid are we as a society to think getting shot at suddenly makes you a better presidential candidate

Bread and circuses, my man.   If it bleeds it leads and this makes great entertainment for the masses.  

Gotta distract them from the Supreme Court gutting the Constitution and corporations turning the country into a fascist oligarchy.

[Captainant 28574]

Shot:

55 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

The last 20 years has been full of “operation chaos” bullshit.  Most recently with all the leftists registering R to promote Trump down ballot loons.  Example A1 being Mr. Crudités in PA.

Chaser:

55 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

stop being disingenuous

 

[gmr548 16702]

1 hour ago, 3adays said:

I think this assignation attempt will eventually help the democrats. As mentioned earlier, Trump’s  base is already locked in. Soccer moms and people who were starting to lean towards Trump 2.0 will see this and worry about what other violence another Trump term could lead to. With the BLM riots and Jan 6th fresh on their minds, they might think voting for Biden buys them some peace despite not agreeing with him politically. 

We'll just have to see how it plays out because it's unprecedented in the modern environment, but I expect it will result in a modest but tangible rally around Trump. Some will buy the GOP's cries about the big, bad, radical left (which, I mean, the fucking gall to not only lie outright but ignore their own record - but it will work to a degree because for whatever reason we grade these two parties on different scales as a society), some will gravitate out of sympathy or the perceived law and order stance from the Trump/GOP platform.

The polarization of the day will likely make this effect relatively limited but even another point or two shift toward Trump about wraps this thing up. Especially given the impact will be most pronounced in PA, without which Biden has zero chance of winning.

At this point I do not see a path to victory for Biden.

[Clintonaldo 2618]

35 minutes ago, Helobious said:

I will say the shooter being a young white guy isn’t going to give Trump the bump that it would’ve had the shooter been in one of “those” groups. 
 

And how stupid are we as a society to think getting shot at suddenly makes you a better presidential candidate

I prefer my presidents not get shot like he prefers his war heroes not get captured. 

[Superhero 9028]

Trump’s team getting him mostly out of the spotlight after the debate was good strategy. Let the country talk about how unelectable Biden is, and not how crazy Trump is.

I have my thoughts about the assassination attempt which I won’t share, but I’m sure many here will agree with my thought.

But I think this will bring the spotlight back onto Trump and he won’t be able to not say some crazy shit that’s gonna turn off the people in the middle who haven’t already made of their minds. 

[Hank Kingsley 21798]

54 minutes ago, hornbri said:

He also donated to a progressive group so who knows how he really felt. 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/7/14/what-we-know-about-thomas-matthew-crooks-the-suspected-trump-rally-shooter

 

He donated when he was 17. He registered as a Republican and voted Republican at 18

 

[Hank Kingsley 21798]

Grrrrreat 

 

[mdmost 44078]

Just now, Hank Kingsley said:

He donated when he was 17. He registered as a Republican and voted Republican at 18

 

So the right will start blaming Nikki Haley, Chris Christie, and Liz Cheney now?

[David Dennison 19560]

26 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

We'll just have to see how it plays out because it's unprecedented in the modern environment, but I expect it will result in a modest but tangible rally around Trump. Some will buy the GOP's cries about the big, bad, radical left (which, I mean, the fucking gall to not only lie outright but ignore their own record - but it will work to a degree because for whatever reason we grade these two parties on different scales as a society), some will gravitate out of sympathy or the perceived law and order stance from the Trump/GOP platform.

The polarization of the day will likely make this effect relatively limited but even another point or two shift toward Trump about wraps this thing up. Especially given the impact will be most pronounced in PA, without which Biden has zero chance of winning.

At this point I do not see a path to victory for Biden.

Why?

[Aqua Buddha 14807]

This thing won't matter in three weeks.

[Hefeweizen 5445]

Just now, Aqua Buddha said:

This thing won't matter in three weeks.

Agreed.  It’s awful but it won’t change the race.

[Hank Kingsley 21798]

I hope we get forensic confirmation on whether or not Trump actually got hit by a bullet or a glass fragment which was reported earlier. 

[Js1 87214]

5 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Grrrrreat 

 

I don’t believe this one bit

[hornbri 1511]

10 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

He donated when he was 17. He registered as a Republican and voted Republican at 18

 

Do we know he voted at 18? We know he registered to vote. 

My point is we don’t know what he was thinking. He could have made the donation to impress a girl, he could have done the registration for the same reason. We don’t know. 

[Incredulity 11879]

26 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I hope we get forensic confirmation on whether or not Trump actually got hit by a bullet or a glass fragment which was reported earlier. 

Pedantry about the forensics of the Trump assassination attempt is so on brand for the left.

[mdmost 44078]

24 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I don’t believe this one bit

I don't either. Arizona is definitely in play for Biden. But it really all comes down to Pennsylvania. If he loses that, it's over. 

[C-Man 27793]

Pedantry about the forensics of the Trump assassination attempt is so on brand for the left.

Not unlike the 2A/MAGA folks who bog down discussions following mass school shootings, right?

[aggie08 21839]

Just now, Incredulity said:

Pedantry about the forensics of the Trump assassination attempt is so on brand for the left.

Holy shit, this can't be a serious post. Every school shooting is a fucking beacon for your local gun nut to start lecturing you on what caliber bullets from what rifle can and can't do to a human body. And how making this type of gun harder to acquire won't matter because there's a WW1 variant that's widely available that would be just as effective.

[Incredulity 11879]

3 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Holy shit, this can't be a serious post. Every school shooting is a fucking beacon for your local gun nut to start lecturing you on what caliber bullets from what rifle can and can't do to a human body. And how making this type of gun harder to acquire won't matter because there's a WW1 variant that's widely available that would be just as effective.

I guess you didn’t see the dozens of posts declaring this was a pellet gun, airsoft, faked or …. In the minutes after the shooting because of the super duper intellectual power to identify the weapon from the initial audio.

[aggie08 21839]

1 minute ago, Incredulity said:

I guess you didn’t see the dozens of posts declaring this was a pellet gun, airsoft, faked or …. In the minutes after the shooting because of the super duper intellectual power to identify the weapon from the initial audio.

What do you think your point is exactly? Do you even know? Or nah, just shooting from the hip, so to speak?

[Hank Kingsley 21798]

15 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Pedantry about the forensics of the Trump assassination attempt is so on brand for the left.

Not caring about facts or truth is so on brand for the right. 

[David Dennison 19560]

16 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Pedantry about the forensics of the Trump assassination attempt is so on brand for the left.

Have you been around for the pedantry from the right after a mass shooting?

[Incredulity 11879]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

Have you been around for the pedantry from the right after a mass shooting?

Whatabout!!!!!!

[StassneyHorn 6780]

Also from David

 

[Incredulity 11879]

2 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Not caring about facts or truth is so on brand for the right. 

Crafting made up bullshit and forcing it through government control is so on brand for the left.

Then pissing down your leg about authoritarianism is the cherry on top.

[YGIFS 19458]

A guy named David Chapman is giving out information on assassinations?  Let me guess the other name his parents considered was Mark.  This fucking simulation.  Mark's getting upset!  

[StassneyHorn 6780]

Also from David Chapman’s linkedIn

Phone Banker for Donald Trump 

Freelance sports writer

Security Guard

and Front Desk of Ramada Inn

 

 

[David Dennison 19560]

4 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Crafting made up bullshit and forcing it through government control is so on brand for the left.

Then pissing down your leg about authoritarianism is the cherry on top.

Righteous indignation being extremely on brand for the right.

Do you need a paper bag? Smelling salts? Are you feeling faint?

[aggie08 21839]

12 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Whatabout!!!!!!

You invite whataboutism by trying to make a point that a certain characteristic is unique to one party, then shout whataboutism when confronted with the obvious truth that, if anything, that characteristic is the other party's "brand." Truly dizzying intellect you got there.

Edited July 14 by aggie08

[YGIFS 19458]

He went to Augustana College to work at a Ramada Inn?  That's a good school, lotsa friends of mine went there.  

I bet he doesn't even know who John Lennon was.  

[Js1 87214]

7 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

A guy named David Chapman is giving out information on assassinations?  Let me guess the other name his parents considered was Mark.  This fucking simulation.  Mark's getting upset!  

But his sister has some bangers 

[Sawbonz 28234]

2 hours ago, Incredulity said:

You mean right?

Stage left

Edited July 14 by Sawbonz

[Sawbonz 28234]

24 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Crafting made up bullshit and forcing it through government control is so on brand for the left.

Then pissing down your leg about authoritarianism is the cherry on top.

So you agree Hank is correct 

[Nope 3151]

And now we find out if Biden can bounce back from a 3-0 deficit….lol

[Incredulity 11879]

3 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

So you agree Hank is correct 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I hope we get forensic confirmation on whether or not Trump actually got hit by a bullet or a glass fragment which was reported earlier. 

Not sure why this matters, even IF (big if) it was glass from the teleprompter, it’s the bullet that caused the glass to projectile.  It’s a distinction without a difference. 

To me it looks like the shooters first shot, which would have been the best, that caught his ear, glass or no glass. 

[David Dennison 19560]

7 minutes ago, Nope said:

And now we find out if Biden can bounce back from a 3-0 deficit….lol

If he can't the country will be worse off for it.

 

[Nope 3151]

7 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

If he can't the country will be worse off for it.

 

Of course, but that’s never stopped us before 

[Aqua Buddha 14807]

42 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Also from David Chapman’s linkedIn

Phone Banker for Donald Trump 

Freelance sports writer

Security Guard

and Front Desk of Ramada Inn

 

 

He left "Incel" off.

[Hank Kingsley 21798]

10 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Not sure why this matters, even IF (big if) it was glass from the teleprompter, it’s the bullet that caused the glass to projectile.  It’s a distinction without a difference. 

To me it looks like the shooters first shot, which would have been the best, that caught his ear, glass or no glass. 

It’s the difference between being lucky or the luckiest person to have ever lived. 

[wild_turkey 3298]

This country and the world at large are a tinderbox. I’m not looking forward to the next 4-6 months.

[Brisketexan 106952]

This country and the world at large are a tinderbox. I’m not looking forward to the next 4-6 months.

It was always going to go up in horrific flames. Always. We never had a chance of stopping it. When humanity is dead-set on wrecking its own shit, it can’t be stopped.

[Clintonaldo 2618]

22 hours ago, Irwin F Fletcher said:

Well he lost my vote. The pussy gets his ear cut and has to practically be carried off the stage by eight women and three men.

That's weak!

Where were you when the prompter got broken 

 

 

[mchookem 16775]

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

It was always going to go up in horrific flames. Always. We never had a chance of stopping it. When humanity is dead-set on wrecking its own shit, it can’t be stopped.

 

[fattyflattie 4640]

9 minutes ago, wild_turkey said:

This country and the world at large are a tinderbox. I’m not looking forward to the next 4-6 months.

Seriously?  

[C-Man 27793]

4 hours ago, Incredulity said:

Crafting made up bullshit and forcing it through government control is so on brand for the left.

Then pissing down your leg about authoritarianism is the cherry on top.

This is dumb, even for you.

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