2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[dcbc 14645]

"Also, mouth stuff is a sin"  I'm dying here.  Good production and messaging and a touch of dark humor.

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[SydneyCarton 49520]

6 hours ago, Tuco said:

In case you are wondering, I think the last few pages have proved why I think it's a good ad for a targeted audience, but probably shouldn't be a centerpiece of her campaign.  

Actually, there were a lot of people pissed about it, including the ACLU and most immigrant advocacy groups.  Let me repeat: groups whose entire charter is to help immigrants were pissed about Biden's jump to the right on the issue. Obviously, it's not a big issue to you, but it is to them. It would have continued to build the wall, beefed up the deeply flawed Border Patrol, loosened the hiring standards for BP, increased the burden of proof for asylum seekers, and allowed rejection of asylum seekers without a day in court.  It had some good stuff too, but it didn't have a path to citizenship for Dreamers, which was always a major negotiation point, even during Trump's presidency.  

I'm going to vote for Kamala barring some insane shift in her position, or a serious mental health issue on my part.  I assume chainsaw will as well.  The people on this board are not the concern.  But if this compromise made so much sense, the Dems would have offered up years ago. They only did so now because they were getting hammered on the border politically and Biden tied it in with support for Ukraine. Trump has changed how the Democrats approach immigration policy, and that pisses me off.  I think Harris's position makes sense to politically to blunt Trump's attack, but she needs to be careful on it. 

Also, a few pages back there was some shit how we should "just let it go" when disaffected Republicans talk about their Republican beliefs on Twitter, because they might vote for Harris.  Ok.  But in the interest of coalition building, perhaps that should also be applied to the actual Democrats expressing Democratic beliefs.  

 

 

 

First off, most here justifiably mocked the twitter post about the guy begging people not to hurt his fee fees. 
 

second, no one mocked chainsaw about his beliefs. He was mocked for telling people if his views aren’t pandered to his and his kind will stay home. Which he’s done over other issues like the ones in Palestine. And then insisting his views represent “the base.” They do not. But more importantly he was mocked because his behavior was the opposite of coalition building; it’s coalition blackmail. and it’s happened before and continues to happen and that is why it was met with disdain. 
 

no one cares about his views. The border is a mess. Palestine is beyond a fucking mess. Having issues and grievances and strong opinions isn’t the problem. It’s threatening to take the ball and go home when your candidate doesn’t pitch a perfect game on your issues. Or so completely misunderstanding the voting bloc(s) necessary to win and how you fit into them. It’s trump people bleating they won an election because there weren’t any boats on the water with Biden flags. And it’s exhausting. 

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[Francisco 2.0 32607]

 

 

 

[locodos 5593]

1 hour ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Talking to Beto to figure out how to win elections sounds like a shitty idea. 

Maybe they are going to do the opposite!

[Francisco 2.0 32607]

"Focus on policy"

 

 

 

 

 

[Fudge Nuggets 19467]

I guess I’m the only white dude between the Gulf of Mexico and Canada that doesn’t give a fuck about this made up “border crisis”. Zero, nada, zilch fucks given. 

[G650 14448]

33 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

Share it here all you like. I just don’t like a grown adults testicles and three quarter naked trannies being on live tv when my 7/9 year old are trying to watch what was supposed to be an athletics opening ceremony. But I guess that makes me WEIRD.

It does

[SubliminalHorn 7011]

56 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

Share it here all you like. I just don’t like a grown adults testicles and three quarter naked trannies being on live tv when my 7/9 year old are trying to watch what was supposed to be an athletics opening ceremony. But I guess that makes me WEIRD.

I’m sure you took the time to educate them regarding art and what they represented right? 

[Js1 87223]

23 minutes ago, G650 said:

It does

Reminder that Europeans do not have those prudish American thoughts for things such as nudity. So not sorry the French didn’t cater to American puritan ideals of shame and modesty 

[Francisco 2.0 32607]

1 hour ago, Enchubben said:

Share it here all you like. I just don’t like a grown adults testicles and three quarter naked trannies being on live tv when my 7/9 year old are trying to watch what was supposed to be an athletics opening ceremony. But I guess that makes me WEIRD.

 

Seems to me that most of the people who bitch about the Olympics opening ceremony appear to believe it is the production of some US based firm or is taking place in the US.

 

 

Edited July 31 by Francisco 2.0

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13632]

Remember when culture warriors were protesting Truck Nutz and Fuck Joe Biden paraphernalia being displayed in public?

[dcbc 14645]

As if it needed to be explained.  The case for calling it like it is (in pictures).  They're weird!

 

https://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/stop-calling-us-weird-whine-the-weirdest?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

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[DigglerontheHoof 21561]

magats everywhere will be boycotting France....again, soon.  Boycotting a country they could never afford to vacation in and who doesn't want them there, anyway. 

[Pam Cummings 9884]

1 hour ago, Enchubben said:

Share it here all you like. I just don’t like a grown adults testicles and three quarter naked trannies being on live tv when my 7/9 year old are trying to watch what was supposed to be an athletics opening ceremony. But I guess that makes me WEIRD.

Fuck your feelings.

[Js1 87223]

7 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

magats everywhere will be boycotting France....again, soon.  Boycotting a country they could never afford to vacation in and who doesn't want them there, anyway. 

Thank god. I love France and I don’t want to run into MAGAs there. 

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

I found the opening ceremonies full of artistic choices that made me think “hm”.  
 

it will not have an appreciable effect on who I think should be directing US policy over the next four years. 

[Pam Cummings 9884]

Just now, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

I found the opening ceremonies full of artistic choices that made me think “hm”.  
 

it will not have an appreciable effect on who I think should be directing US policy over the next four years. 

The same people complaining about a blurry ballsack on their screen for 2.5 seconds that they screen shotted and zoomed in on are voting for president pussy grabber. They are the most disingenuous, unserious people.

[mdmost 44097]

Whining on social media about the opening ceremonies of a country they don't live in seems a lot like the "virtue signaling" the right claims the left always does. 

[heso 2863]

9 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

It's Bama. Found the original quote on Wikipedia:

"Between Paoli and Penn Hills, Pennsylvania is Alabama without the blacks. They didn't film The Deer Hunter there for nothing – the state has the second-highest concentration of NRA members, behind Texas."

For North Alabama, that's dead-on. If you got kidnapped by a PA/AL cartel and dumped in the woods of either state in your underwear you'd be hard-pressed to tell where you were until you tried to buy beer in a gas station. Beer = Bama. No Beer but it's a Sheetz or a Wawa = Penna.

(Let me get this tweed jacket on and light this pipe) Beyond that, Carville actually got it backwards. It's Alabama that's Pennsylvania minus Philly and Pennsylvania Dutch. When central PA was first settled it was heavy with Irish types who had 8 kids, and some went west, some stayed home, and the rest piled down along the Appalachian ridges through all those states and the last one was Bama. (There's hill in Mississippi that they sometimes claim as the end of the Appalachians-- they lie.)

We can buy beer in gas stations here now!

[Bojack 2092]

17 hours ago, Foosters said:

The reason "weird" works is that it touches the core of GOP's insecurities. They are so very concerned with being the "in" group, as evidenced by their constant screeching over media, Hollywood, tech, and pop-culture being aligned against them. Its why they cling so desperately to their B and C list celebrities, and why they elevate no-name mumble rappers simply bc the they're wearing a MAGA hat.

Calling them Nazis or racists really doesn't move the needle. They just smirk and embrace it. But "weird" is the kid who got ignored at school and ate lunch alone. 

This nails it about their reaction to weird better than anything else I've heard. After all, they're fucking fascists whether they know it or not.

In groups, out groups. Protect but don't bind. Bind but don't protect. They're fine with all that and only dread being one of the "outs." 

Also, they assume we'll do to them what they'd gladly do to us. 

 

[cactusflinthead 27628]

Next time someone accuses this place of being an echo chamber these last few pages should be cited.

[Pancho 46357]

8 hours ago, SpiralOut said:

Yeah, Harris isn't going to be some savant on the campaign trail.  She still has all the problems that plagued her when she was gaining 1% of the vote to be the Democratic nominee back when.  

Specifically what? You can just say “yeah she still has the same problems” and not give specific examples.

[WhatTheBuck 28937]

1 hour ago, Pam Cummings said:

What is this fear mongering? Yall really think Biden would allow this? If anyone tries anything that even seems remotely fucked, you arrest them.

Bypassing the courts?

[mdmost 44097]

3 minutes ago, Bojack said:

This nails it about their reaction to weird better than anything else I've heard. After all, they're fucking fascists whether they know it or not.

In groups, out groups. Protect but don't bind. Bind but don't protect. They're fine with all that and only dread being one of the "outs." 

Also, they assume we'll do to them what they'd gladly do to us. 

 

Well and the shit they're "weird" about shouldn't be that controversial when you point it out. It's weird to be against IVF if one of your goals is to want people to be able to have children. It's weird to be against birth control. It's weird to want to force people to have children. It's weird to say people who choose to not have children are unhappy, cat ladies. Vance is the living embodiment of all things weird that the new MAGA GOP is subscribing to. He is the literal MAGA fringe on display for all to see. If this is what it takes to show people who haven't been paying attention to what their possible future could be then have at it and go at them with both barrels. 

[Pancho 46357]

 

[mdmost 44097]

So Kelly is out. But the remaining 3 are governors. I feel like it's Shapiro since they're starting in Philly. 

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[Js1 87223]

I wouldn’t read that much into where they are starting as the pick 

Romney introduced Ryan in Virginia

Hillary introduced Kaine in Florida

Edited July 31 by Js1

[Enchubben 5600]

52 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

I’m sure you took the time to educate them regarding art and what they represented right? 

Oh certainly. See here son, pulling your balls out of your hot pants next to the bearded lady, this is art. Put it in the Louvre. 

[HenryJames 67442]

34 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

I found the opening ceremonies full of artistic choices that made me think “hm”.  

 

[mdmost 44097]

12 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I wouldn’t read that much into where they are starting as the pick 

Romney introduced Ryan in Virginia

Hillary introduced Kaine in Florida

Well, maybe learn from those mistakes. 

[G650 14448]

Well I know who I'm not invite to my next bacchanal

[Js1 87223]

36 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

I found the opening ceremonies full of artistic choices that made me think “hm”.  

So it did its job! Art should make you think. 

[South Austin 53235]

9 hours ago, SpiralOut said:

She just needs to 3 yards and a cloud of dust this thing until November.    

A two-yard out to John Chiles every now and then would be good to change it up and keep the Trump defense on its heels.

[Dahobbs 18349]

6 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

Oh certainly. See here son, pulling your balls out of your hot pants next to the bearded lady, this is art. Put it in the Louvre. 

We get it, this is all the art you'll ever need. Go worship your false God. 

[WhatTheBuck 28937]

9 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Well, maybe learn from those mistakes. 

Biden introduced Harris in Delaware.

Obama introduced Biden in Illinois. 

[Js1 87223]

8 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Well, maybe learn from those mistakes. 

Maybe.  I fully understand the importance of PA, but I think she can win it without Shapiro.  He will still be a very effective surrogate.  He has a lot of concerns for me (school choice, Israel, the sexual harassment settlement).

I will fully be on board if he's the pick, nothing is changing my mind.  But I think it is Beshear, as he's the only one who has gotten enhanced security detail that we know of. 

Just now, WhatTheBuck said:

Biden introduced Harris in Delaware.

Obama introduced Biden in Illinois. 

Trump introduced Pence in New York

['stache 22145]

15 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

Oh certainly. See here son, pulling your balls out of your hot pants next to the bearded lady, this is art. Put it in the Louvre. 

Do you want to tell him, or should I?

[Js1 87223]

Just now, 'stache said:

Do you want to tell him, or should I?

[Hank Kingsley 21804]

Shapiro is the only risky candidate. And it is very risky. I hope they're strategic enough to avoid nominating him. 

 

[SydneyCarton 49520]

Well, Harris is from California, so…

[Pato del Muerto 53566]

52 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Bypassing the courts?

Pretty sure arrests happen prior to court

*IANAL

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[HenryJames 67442]

30 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

Put it in the Louvre. 

I put it in your mom’s Louvre last night.

[Constant 6895]

1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

"Focus on policy"

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, focus on policy, Matt. Policy that the majority of the country despises. 

[Js1 87223]

17 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Do you want to tell him, or should I?

That's different - female nudity is okay; breasts are fine.  But male nudity?  TESTICLES????

The fragile heterosexual white man cannot handle such things.  Same people who lost their mind that Netflix's historical docudrama didn't shy away from Alexander the Great's male love interest.  As if the Greeks weren't gay as fuck.  

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[Enchubben 5600]

 

Perhaps I should be more specific. This is art.

This is art, yes even with the nudity.

Not art.

[G650 14448]

What particularly is your issue with that

[locodos 5593]

3 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

 

Perhaps I should be more specific. This is art.

This is art, yes even with the nudity.

Not art.

Since you're a self appointed gatekeeper of art...

Is this art?

[aggie08 21841]

Tuning into the Opening Ceremonies in fucking Paris and expecting not to see what Americans would consider controversial shit is a choice.

[Js1 87223]

2 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

It’s threatening to take the ball and go home when your candidate doesn’t pitch a perfect game on your issues. Or so completely misunderstanding the voting bloc(s) necessary to win and how you fit into them. It’s trump people bleating they won an election because there weren’t any boats on the water with Biden flags. And it’s exhausting. 

Progressive have power, if they utilize it properly, i.e., don't sit out and whine.  Go look at 2020 - we put aside our differences, put Biden into office, and while he hasn't been perfect, he has been pretty god progressive with his legislation on climate change, labor rights, etc. compared to who he is/has been. 

You put them in office first and then work to get them further to your side.  Even easier to do when you don't sit out and put more progressive people into the House and Senate to nudge POTUS along. 

[SydneyCarton 49520]

12 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

 

Perhaps I should be more specific. This is art.

This is art, yes even with the nudity.

Not art.

Your parents thought rock and roll was satanic music. Telling others what art is will always be a losing proposition. 

Edited July 31 by SydneyCarton