2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[seven 1358]

The "testicle" was a rip in a performers tights showing his thigh. This is another right wing lie. 

[Js1 83927]

Just now, seven said:

The "testicle" was a rip in a performers tights showing his thigh. This is another right wing lie. 

They’re just fucking balls. They hang off every MAGA person’s truck in public 

[immamac 41782]

Lmao wait what? How are we talking about the French hosted Paris Olympics having anything to do with anything in US politics? 

Grow the fuck up. 

[DigglerontheHoof 20611]

Republicans are obsessed w/ other folks' private parts.  Creepy AF. 

[Beantown Express 2.0 6529]

Just now, DigglerontheHoof said:

Republicans are obsessed w/ other folks' private parts.  Creepy AF. 

I would call it, dare I say, weird.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13488]

Is there some age verification system to access Surly that I'm unaware of? 

 

[HenryJames 65621]

18 minutes ago, G650 said:

What particularly is your issue with that

[27-25 2030]

1 hour ago, Dahobbs said:

We get it, this is all the art you'll ever need. Go worship your false God. 

Flag touching the ground.  Flag Code violation!

[Js1 83927]

Kamalamentum

 

[Da Fino 2671]

33 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Tuning into the Opening Ceremonies in fucking Paris and expecting not to see what Americans would consider controversial shit is a choice.

From what I've heard of the French, (i've never been, so I'm open to being corrected) I assumed this was just normal French folks going about their daily routine. 

[Pam Cummings 9427]

26 minutes ago, immamac said:

Lmao wait what? How are we talking about the French hosted Paris Olympics having anything to do with anything in US politics? 

Grow the fuck up. 

They're going to beat the dems with policy!

[wildcat09 28569]

34 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Progressive have power, if they utilize it properly, i.e., don't sit out and whine.  Go look at 2020 - we put aside our differences, put Biden into office, and while he hasn't been perfect, he has been pretty god progressive with his legislation on climate change, labor rights, etc. compared to who he is/has been. 

You put them in office first and then work to get them further to your side.  Even easier to do when you don't sit out and put more progressive people into the House and Senate to nudge POTUS along. 

AOC and Bernie get this. Shitposters do not.

[Underdog 28248]

29 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Republicans are obsessed w/ other folks' private parts.  Creepy AF. 

Edited July 31 by Underdog
Bean beat me to it.

[Tuco 5059]

43 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

Not art.

 

 

Obviously, it's still art.  It may be art you don't like.  It may be art that is terrible. For the sake of argument, it could even be obscene and profane, and still be art.  

If it's not art, then what is it? Pornography, maybe?  Do you think anyone is jerking off to a (possible) blurry nutsack in the background?   

[Constant 6565]

37 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

 

Perhaps I should be more specific. This is art.

This is art, yes even with the nudity.

Not art.

Its quite literally the definition of art. 

[Dahobbs 17262]

50 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

 

Perhaps I should be more specific. This is art.

This is art, yes even with the nudity.

Not art.

Yeah, what would the French know about art? Obviously they should consult @Enchubben. 

Btw, ever look at all that dangerous right wing rhetoric I helpfully cited for you since you couldn't find it on your own? 

[fattyflattie 4633]

1 hour ago, Dahobbs said:

We get it, this is all the art you'll ever need. Go worship your false God. 

Available in an airbrushed velvet? 

Edited July 31 by fattyflattie
Double double

[Js1 83927]

District was Trump +3 in 2020

 

[SubliminalHorn 6421]

1 hour ago, Enchubben said:

Oh certainly. See here son, pulling your balls out of your hot pants next to the bearded lady, this is art. Put it in the Louvre. 

Make sure you keep your precious spawn away from all museums then. They might catch glimpses of some naughty things 

[Zonahorn 7972]

 

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11593]

WaPo makes a very compelling case for No Kelly within the first three paragraphs of this article.

https://wapo.st/3Srk6o4

 

Opinion 

 Mark Kelly: Astronaut, senator, VP short-lister ... ex-vitamin huckster

The Arizona senator and former astronaut might muddy the Democratic ticket’s contrast from Trump.

 

By Jim Geraghty

July 31, 2024 at 6:45 a.m. EDT

In 2015, former astronaut Mark Kelly rode a motorcycle onto a stage in China, with an American flag on one handlebar and the flag of the People’s Republic of China on the other. After dismounting, he told the audience before him how terrific Shaklee vitamins were, and how he took Shaklee Vitalizer on the space shuttle Endeavour in 2011, an out-of-this-world event honored on the Shaklee Facebook page.

 

“I took Shaklee vitamins and the Shaklee rehydration drink while in orbit aboard the space shuttle!” Kelly said, pumping his fists before the audience. “They worked very well for me in a very demanding environment. Now, it is up to you. It is up to all of you to take those tools that Shaklee and Roger” — company CEO Roger Barnett — “has given you, and turn it into something big! Each and every one of you can create your own successful Shaklee business, and it is the rewards from that business that will help you achieve your own dreams!”

In a video of his appearance in China, a Mandarin-language introduction says Kelly “lives in the hearts of the American people.” Then Kenny Loggins’s “Danger Zone” — straight out of “Top Gun” — plays, and Kelly drives his double-flagged motorcycle onto the stage.

 

Yes, that Kelly. The former Navy combat pilot in the Gulf War, the Democratic U.S. senator from Arizona since 2020, and a guy who’s reportedly on the shortest of shortlists to be Vice President Harris’s running mate.

 

Are we paying our astronauts enough? Just how hard up for cash was Kelly, who had retired from the Navy and NASA duty four years earlier, when he decided to fly to China to tout this stuff? What, did he have to settle for this because Ben Carson already had the Mannatech gig tied up?

It was a family affair, as the senator declared in a 2016 video — wearing his blue NASA astronaut jumpsuit. Speaking of his twin brother, astronaut Scott Kelly, “who just got back from the International Space Station,” Kelly said, “we’re really excited to be with you at Shaklee Live in Orlando coming up this August. You know, I told my brother all about Shaklee, Roger and the Shaklee difference. He even took Shaklee vitamins with him up in space with him, to the International Space Station, and I did, too.”

 

If the words “every one of you can create your own successful Shaklee business” made the hairs on the back of your neck stand up, you get a gold star. Yes, Shaklee is a multilevel marketing company. Those aren’t illegal, but the Federal Trade Commission warns, “most people who join legitimate MLMs make little or no money. Some of them lose money. In some cases, people believe they’ve joined a legitimate MLM, but it turns out to be an illegal pyramid scheme that steals everything they invest and leaves them deeply in debt.”

Nice gig, Senator. It makes your $55,000 speech in 2018 for Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed Al Nahyan, then the crown prince of Abu Dhabi, look respectable. (Kelly returned the money amid his 2019 Senate candidacy; the United Arab Emirates’ human rights record at that time and since is … bad. Lots of politicians equivocate about U.S. alliances with dubious Middle Eastern allies. But it’s unclear how many have accepted five-figure checks from them.)

No doubt, some Kelly fan is scoffing and insisting this is no big deal, and that surely Donald Trump — the guy behind Trump University — is the last person who could criticize Kelly for making a quick buck on an unsavory endorsement deal. Then again, the whole point of the Democratic ticket is to be a clearly better option than Trump, not just a different flavor of the same willingness to smile for a quick buck from chumps.

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If Harris chooses Kelly, the Trump campaign would likely try to tie Kelly’s vitamin-pushing days to the Chinese investors in Kelly’s balloon company. The campaign ad labeling Kelly a “Mark-churian candidate” practically writes itself. But there would be no need to gild the lily; the absurd image of Kelly on the motorcycle, touting Shaklee vitamins and the Shaklee rehydration drink, is thoroughly cringe-inducing.

And there’s no getting around it. For a stretch, Kelly’s name, image and reputation — largely built at NASA — was for sale. Choose carefully, Madam Vice President.

[Pato del Muerto 52120]

I read about a guy that wanted sanctuary in a Parisian church from the balls. I think I got that right. 

[wildcat09 28569]

4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

District was Trump +3 in 2020

 

The funniest and most inexplicable fucking thing is how many Americans clearly see and have seen how weird and offputting the rest of the GOP is, but don't see Trump as weird and offputting the same way the others are. 

[Js1 83927]

11 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Yeah, what would the French know about art? Obviously they should consult @Enchubben. 

Btw, ever look at all that dangerous right wing rhetoric I helpfully cited for you since you couldn't find it on your own? 

We’ve moved from amateur virologists to economists to art critics 

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11593]

2 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

The funniest and most inexplicable fucking thing is how many Americans clearly see and have seen how weird and offputting the rest of the GOP is, but don't see Trump as weird and offputting the same way the others are. 

the original will always be better than the cheap knock off

[cactusflinthead 27262]

https://www.vam.ac.uk/articles/the-story-of-michelangelos-david

The fig leaf

When Queen Victoria first encountered the cast of David at the Museum, she was apparently so shocked by his nudity that a proportionally accurate fig leaf was commissioned to cover the genitalia. The leaf was kept in readiness for any royal visits, when it was hung on the figure using two strategically placed hooks. The original fig leaf, made by Papi, has sadly been lost but we have a version, made in 1857, in our collection.

Art. Offending people since the beginning of time.

Edited July 31 by cactusflinthead

[jimmyjazz 45214]

1 hour ago, Enchubben said:

Oh certainly. See here son, pulling your balls out of your hot pants next to the bearded lady, this is art. Put it in the Louvre. 

Too late:

[Js1 83927]

3 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

The funniest and most inexplicable fucking thing is how many Americans clearly see and have seen how weird and offputting the rest of the GOP is, but don't see Trump as weird and offputting the same way the others are. 

Which is why there’s not a worthy successor when he dies. No one else gets the same grace and tolerance for weirdness as he does 

[Ted Lange 15935]

Has Kelly made any appearances or talked at all about Kamala?  

[tx 3 putt 75628]

10 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I'm seeing people enthused about Kamala that I didn't think really gave a shit about politics, so that's good.  I'm not seeing a lot of the MAGA in my life plastering their social media/FB with Trump shit like in 2016 and especially 2020 - not that they won't vote, but they used to be like fucking cross fitters and wouldn't shut the fuck up about it.

Four years of a Black woman in the White House would help Fox News pay off some of those lawsuits, as well as upcoming lawsuits.

lot of boomers will be shocked into death 

[Chuckie Finster 22387]

 

 

[Js1 83927]

I’ve mentioned Kelly’s clapping profusely for Bibi. And that Shapiro called them Iran-funded 

[Fudge Nuggets 19001]

38 minutes ago, Tuco said:

Do you think anyone is jerking off to a (possible) blurry nutsack in the background?   

Weirdos do.

[Chopper 16749]

Didn't realize JD Vance has his own line of sofas at Ashley Furniture.

[immamac 41782]

28 minutes ago, Js1 said:

District was Trump +3 in 2020

 

So uh is Ohio in play? 

[Fudge Nuggets 19001]

My mom, maybe the only D boomer woman in Montgomery County, told me about the latest gathering of her Little Old Ladies club.  Apparently all the right-wing boomer nutcases are freaking out that dotard has to run against Kamala instead of Biden now.  She said they were scared shitless, not about Kamala's policies; but that they didn't think there was any way dotard was going to beat her.  

Good.

4 minutes ago, immamac said:

So uh is Ohio in play? 

No.

[Js1 83927]

4 minutes ago, immamac said:

So uh is Ohio in play? 

Nope. But if we can drop it down to Trump +5, that would be huge for PA/MI/WI and likely give Brown an easy win

[Js1 83927]

AP favorable ratings:

Harris -1 (46/47)

Trump -16 (41/57)

Vance -13 (27/40)

for shits and giggles:

Beshear/Shapiro +2

Kelly +12

[shakahorn 1608]

2 hours ago, Enchubben said:

Oh certainly. See here son, pulling your balls out of your hot pants next to the bearded lady, this is art. Put it in the Louvre. 

I'm certainly not going to tell you how to raise your kid, but if I were in that situation, I would say something like "See her son, everyone has different opinions on lots of things, like what is art and what is not.  These here people on TV, well, they're from France and while we might have a lot in common with them, we also have some differences. I personally don't consider this art, but I suppose they do, and there's no reason we should not respect their opinion, after all, it doesn't really affect us."

[wildcat09 28569]

Just now, Js1 said:

AP favorable ratings:

Harris -1 (46/47)

Trump -16 (41/57)

Vance -13 (27/40)

for shits and giggles:

Beshear/Shapiro +2

Kelly +12

No way Kelly's would stay that high with the public attention a VP nod would get him. 

[wildcat09 28569]

1 minute ago, shakahorn said:

I'm certainly not going to tell you how to raise your kid, but if I were in that situation, I would say something like "See her son, everyone has different opinions on lots of things, like what is art and what is not.  These here people on TV, well, they're from France and while we might have a lot in common with them, we also have some differences. I personally don't consider this art, but I suppose they do, and there's no reason we should not respect their opinion, after all, it doesn't really affect us."

And the thing is that if you're a conservative who doesn't want your kid exposed to what you consider degenerate content, this is exactly the type of thing you should tell your kid about something like this. That's boring and they'll just go "huh, ok" and forget about it. But if you get angry and start ranting about how it's filthy and they're not allowed to see it, what the fuck do you think they're going to want to do? 

[Js1 83927]

2 minutes ago, shakahorn said:

I'm certainly not going to tell you how to raise your kid, but if I were in that situation, I would say something like "See her son, everyone has different opinions on lots of things, like what is art and what is not.  These here people on TV, well, they're from France and while we might have a lot in common with them, we also have some differences. I personally don't consider this art, but I suppose they do, and there's no reason we should not respect their opinion, after all, it doesn't really affect us."

GOP packing for the beach:

 

[Loch Ness Monster 3529]

22 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Has Kelly made any appearances or talked at all about Kamala?  

Think he's 3rd or 4th most likely to be the VP pick. 

 

[WhatTheBuck 28636]

2 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Shapiro is the only risky candidate. And it is very risky. I hope they're strategic enough to avoid nominating him. 

 

They’re all risky. There’s no sure thing. 

[Zonahorn 7972]

 

[chainsaw 9668]

4 hours ago, G650 said:

Yeah, because when I think of winning elections, I think of Beto O'Rourke

Look, I was no fan of Beto O'Rourke's policies, but I did admire the energy and effort he brought to all 254 counties (something Colin Allred has abjectly failed to even attempt).

Say what you will about him, but Beto did overperform in Texas, and even more importantly he led a massive downballot blue wave statewide and many of those people are still in office.

On immigration, the name of the game is "do no harm" and "mitigate mitigate mitigate." Kamala can learn a lot from Beto 2018. His was the kind of messaging that is both a clear contrast from Trump's Hitlerian vision and avoids walking into the trap of the ridiculous "open border"/"free for all" narrative.

This is the issue Dems have no chance of winning, just like Republicans have no chance of winning on abortion.

What terrified me the most about Kamala's speech in Atlanta: she claimed to have walked with cops through illegal underground tunnels at the border

Her claim had better fucking be 100% true, or she will be crucified for exaggerating her record and more importantly the goldfish media's focus will shift away from "Project 2025" and "Weird" couchfuckers (the reason for Kamalamentum) and will shift toward "open borders" and "Lyin' Kamala" (which will kill her momentum and return us to our regularly scheduled fear mongering about "open borders")

Edited July 31 by chainsaw

[RomaVicta 29593]

3 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

I guess I’m the only white dude between the Gulf of Mexico and Canada that doesn’t give a fuck about this made up “border crisis”. Zero, nada, zilch fucks given. 

Why do you hate our troops? 

The Texas Guard bravely faces dangerous no-goodniks from the shit hole countries south of our holy border. They do this to protect us from terrifying scum like this:

We show them in silhoette because their visages are too scary! Why isn't the Texas Guard opening fire?

[The Dog 43494]

[mdmost 42515]

Do you think the border has no issues? We absolutely have a smuggling issue at the border? That's not only people looking for a better life. Some of it is people who are in forced labor situations. Some of it is drugs making it into the country. Do you think Eagle Pass or El Paso are enjoying being way stations for migrants? We have to clean up the entire system and make it where people don't have to rely on coyotes to get them into the country. She is more likely to bring that than anyone else. She is going to push for more technology and agents at the border to make the system better. You can't stick your head in the sand about the situation to our south. It is a problem and it needs fixing. 

[SydneyCarton 47523]

51 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

 

I watched this whole fucking thing. The kicker for me is the last 30 seconds, he talks about his sister expressing her own regret and maybe she should have waited and had kid's later in life. And he goes on to bragg about how he told his sister how wrong she is to feel that way, becuase she's been a great mom. And he rails about the poeple who are "sending that message" to her, while completely discounting HIS SISTER WHO EXPRESSED REGRET.

He may as well have said "My sister doesn't have any opionions of her own, she's just an idiot who parrots what the media tells her. And her feelings are wrong." 

Great message.