2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[kevwun 15403]

You are engaging with a troll.

[Zonahorn 8014]

 

[elguapo 4555]

12 minutes ago, ALexusTexus7 said:

That’s not a Trump rally. But you knew that.

Wrong again, what kind of hat will you be eating?

[gmr548 16326]

52 minutes ago, immamac said:

Seriously though, objectively how does Trump pull out of this tailspin? This is now definitely tailspin territory post RNC. Before it was kind of a vibe thing, but now he's out there and clearly fucking losing it on stage, ending engagements early after disaster answers, losing the crowd etc etc.

Set aside for a second what you think about him winning and the morality of helping someone like him win, but what would you do if you were in charge of the strategy at this point in the  campaign?

Everything in politics is fleeting. I have no idea what the news cycle will look like a month, two months from now, aside from the fact that it won't look like it does now. We've been watching novel, modern history-making events unfold for like a month straight so to assume the landscape won't significantly change is probably a bad idea. I don't know the last time I said this, but if the election were held tomorrow it'd be a complete coin flip and I might even favor Harris. It's not held tomorrow though; at the moment that uncertainty is potential upside for Trump much as it was for Democrats when trying to get Biden to step aside.

People's opinions of Trump are hardened. Partisanship is a bitch. I doubt he wins any new supports but I doubt he loses many relative to 2016 or 2020 either. You can be reasonably sure of him getting his ~46% nationally and + 2%-3% on that in swing states that generally lean slightly right of the nation.

[Hawndoh 2375]

There's way less yard signs in my town. A few.

In my particular neighborhood there is only a single house with a sign of any kind and it was "presidents are temporary, Wu-Tang is forever", but it is in the same fonts and color schemes as a campaign sign.

[Kyrie Eleison 9312]

4 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

He is a classmate on mine from USNA.  Sigh.  

[ALexusTexus7 114]

Don’t listen to MAGAworld spin about the crowd

What’s a lie? That she’s not black? She isn’t.

[Zonahorn 8014]

 

[ALexusTexus7 114]

Wrong again, what kind of hat will you be eating?

Nah, it’s not a Trump rally.

[Hank Kingsley 20237]

1 minute ago, gmr548 said:

Everything in politics is fleeting.

Not for Joe Biden after the debate. Some things stick. 

 

[Js1 84498]

1 minute ago, gmr548 said:

Everything in politics is fleeting. I have no idea what the news cycle will look like a month, two months from now, aside from the fact that it won't look like it does now. We've been watching novel, modern history-making events unfold for like a month straight so to assume the landscape won't significantly change is probably a bad idea. I don't know the last time I said this, but if the election were held tomorrow it'd be a complete coin flip and I might even favor Harris. It's not held tomorrow though; at the moment that uncertainty is potential upside for Trump much as it was for Democrats when trying to get Biden to step aside.

People's opinions of Trump are hardened. Partisanship is a bitch. I doubt he wins any new supports but I doubt he loses many relative to 2016 or 2020 either. You can be reasonably sure of him getting his ~46% nationally and + 2%-3% on that in swing states that generally lean slightly right of the nation.

A lot can happen, yes. 

I'd be very afraid if I was a Republican that Harris is trending up and beating/just behind Trump in the poll after 10 days, Dems are getting more excited and enthusiastic and my candidate picked (and is stuck with) the worst fucking VP and is now self-imploding on TV. 

[ALexusTexus7 114]

Do you?

[Zonahorn 8014]

Just now, ALexusTexus7 said:

What’s a lie? That she’s not black? She isn’t.

[Tuco 5069]

6 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

i’m the first to admit that my poli-sci degree from Florida does not give me any better opinion on a race in 2024 after these 40-odd years than yours - but I have been a political junkie all of my life, and it strikes me that the never ending buzz about Trump attacking people and Vance attacking people, and all of the emotional energy that goes with Trump’s version of grievance politics is so fucking tiring to any normal person, that the continued Trump drama will encourage people to vote for Harris.  Just so they don’t have to listen to this shit every day for four years.

Given that Trump feels this attack mode is the only way for him to campaign, and as polls are trending down, his Pavlovian response will be to get even uglier and more emotional. Forget all of the policy position stuff, I am here to say Trump will lose because - overall - people just don’t want to listen to his constant shit slinging anymore.  They want happy smiling chirpy Harris to tell them things are going to be fine, and are in fact fine right now, but we are working on the things that aren’t and we will work with Republicans and listen to their ideas. 

I think voters - more than anything - want a break from the anger and the drama.   It’s as simple as that.  During the recent Biden doldrums we were not getting the full on shit slinging Gibbon that is Trump.   Some people forgot how it was when he was president.   Like PTS, people are remembering the constant negativity and insulting attacks on everyone who disagrees with Trump.

I think the PTS is being triggered and will result in a Harris win. 

Walz summarized the sentiment saying something like "If this was a TV show, it would be cancelled.  People are just tired of it." 

[tx 3 putt 75669]

Ohh lord …

 

[atomheartbevo 89157]

1 minute ago, gmr548 said:

People's opinions of Trump are hardened. Partisanship is a bitch. I doubt he wins any new supports but I doubt he loses many relative to 2016 or 2020 either. You can be reasonably sure of him getting his ~46% nationally and + 2%-3% on that in swing states that generally lean slightly right of the nation.

He’s lost a bunch of the Qanons and anti-vaxxers, some to RFK Jr, some to going back to not voting after feeling betrayed, but a lot of those types didn’t vote in 2016 anyways because nobody was mobilizing them like he was.

[Firemans4Horn 17493]

I think some of the people excited by Trump 4-8 years ago are 1. Dead 2. Bored of the same shit

[dieucla98 2789]

3 minutes ago, ALexusTexus7 said:

Nah, it’s not a Trump rally.

Stop. Please. Your trolling is pathetic. Or your intellect is, take your pick.

[gmr548 16326]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

A lot can happen, yes. 

I'd be very afraid if I was a Republican that Harris is trending up and beating/just behind Trump in the poll after 10 days, Dems are getting more excited and enthusiastic and my candidate picked (and is stuck with) the worst fucking VP and is now self-imploding on TV. 

I didn't say they should feel good lol. Just saying it's a little early to be discussing the idea of Trump winning as borderline inconceivable. 

[4th&Five 41322]

4 minutes ago, ALexusTexus7 said:

Nah, it’s not a Trump rally.

How is this dipshit not instantly banned for trolling?

[Foosters 17673]

Just now, 4th&Five said:

How is this dipshit not instantly banned for trolling?

for the same reason we don't execute the retarded

[CTC2 2658]

6 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

 

I do think that this is just a matter of time. 

[gmr548 16326]

4 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Not for Joe Biden after the debate. Some things stick. 

 

To Donald Trump? There's like 9 years of evidence to the contrary but okay. Or at least that they only stick in that he does not expand his support.

[Js1 84498]

1 minute ago, CTC2 said:

I do think that this is just a matter of time. 

It’ll happen. And then the gaslighting will start 

- he didn’t say it

- okay he said it, but she started it 

- he has the support of rappers, he’s allowed to say it

- it’s actually not a slur because she’s not black 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23289]

[chainsaw 9701]

Just now, Hank Kingsley said:

Not for Joe Biden after the debate. Some things stick. 

 

The decision to cut him had buy-in that night from BMDs and DC power players, and they made the decision because it was clear he would not be able to generate the excitement required to compete in November. If the decision hadn't been so clear-cut and so quickly made, I don't think the talk of replacement would have been allowed on MSNBC and they would have tried to move on from it. The messaging discipline around the "bad episode" talking point would have been much stronger (notice how good the discipline around "weird" has been).

The reason the "shitty debate" story stuck around was because the plan (which so far has been fucking incredibly well-executed) was being brokered, so the story remained relevant. Biden's Sunday letter, his endorsement of Kamala, everyone falling in line, by Tuesday the veepstakes were in full swing.

[atomheartbevo 89157]

4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

A lot can happen, yes. 

I'd be very afraid if I was a Republican that Harris is trending up and beating/just behind Trump in the poll after 10 days, Dems are getting more excited and enthusiastic and my candidate picked (and is stuck with) the worst fucking VP and is now self-imploding on TV. 

If I was a Republican strategist, I’d be real fucking nervous because the couch fucker ain’t moving the needle, and because we are so close to the election, that another major fuckup or two like today’s fiasco would put the GOP in a tailspin they can’t pull out of.

Hell, this fiasco is overshadowing video being released of the guy who shot at him running around on a roof.

He’s got one bigly arrow left in his quiver - finding the perfect VP and booting Vance off the ticket. That might erase today’s fuckup if it was an amazing pick and if Trump didn’t fuck up anymore, but I know Trump will have to say something stupid soon.

And we don’t even know what the full impact is on down-ballot GOP candidates who may not be getting as much funding in years past because Trump controls the GOP.

 

[dcbc 14310]

40 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

 

 

He drinks out of that same water bottle later.  I didn't even see the one to his right in the several clips.

[Zonahorn 8014]

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33747]

4 minutes ago, Foosters said:

for the same reason we don't execute the retarded

*anymore

[Aqua Buddha 14341]

4 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

I do think that this is just a matter of time. 

And it won't matter.  The same people that stuck with him after Access Hollywood will still be there.....

[Hugo Stiglitz 23289]

Kid Rock will fix everything 

[G650 13394]

Just now, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

*anymore

We are just making him eat his hat, not killing him

[Brisketexan 103860]

14 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

i’m the first to admit that my poli-sci degree from Florida does not give me any better opinion on a race in 2024 after these 40-odd years than yours - but I have been a political junkie all of my life, and it strikes me that the never ending buzz about Trump attacking people and Vance attacking people, and all of the emotional energy that goes with Trump’s version of grievance politics is so fucking tiring to any normal person, that the continued Trump drama will encourage people to vote for Harris.  Just so they don’t have to listen to this shit every day for four years.

Given that Trump feels this attack mode is the only way for him to campaign, and as polls are trending down, his Pavlovian response will be to get even uglier and more emotional. Forget all of the policy position stuff, I am here to say Trump will lose because - overall - people just don’t want to listen to his constant shit slinging anymore.  They want happy smiling chirpy Harris to tell them things are going to be fine, and are in fact fine right now, but we are working on the things that aren’t and we will work with Republicans and listen to their ideas. 

I think voters - more than anything - want a break from the anger and the drama.   It’s as simple as that.  During the recent Biden doldrums we were not getting the full on shit slinging Gibbon that is Trump.   Some people forgot how it was when he was president.   Like PTS, people are remembering the constant negativity and insulting attacks on everyone who disagrees with Trump.

I think the PTS is being triggered and will result in a Harris win. 

A whole lot of this.  Truly, I think that the best chance is for this to be a "vibes" election (I mean, all elections are to some extent or another).  And the bolded is where a large-enough chunk of voters want to be.  We just don't want to listen to the fucking crazy neighbor who hates and rants against everyone and Just.  Will.  Not.  Shut.  UP.  Just shut the fuck up, man.  You're exhausting and negative and we're fucking sick of it.  

7 minutes ago, ALexusTexus7 said:

Nah, it’s not a Trump rally.

All the other pics sure as shit are.  Like these.

Eat your fucking hat, pussy-ass bitch.  Just like your god-king, you're just another pussy-ass bitch.  Bitchmade, bitch-worshipping, doing all he can to try to convince himself that he's not a worthless piece of shit...and failing miserably at that exercise.

Eat a hat, or be gone.

[OU Sucks 8683]

16 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

 

Some good comments so far.

[Zonahorn 8014]

 

[CTC2 2658]

47 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Who was the president when you turned 18 and how did you respond to them?

That's the pertinent question for each generation. It's less about when you were born and more about how you feel/think at that point you are able to vote.

Reagan beguiled a lot of Gen X.

My first presidential vote was against Reagan. I hated that guy and his fucking “Just say No” wife. 

[Ted Lange 15937]

[Zonahorn 8014]

 

['stache 21655]

12 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Everything in politics is fleeting. I have no idea what the news cycle will look like a month, two months from now, aside from the fact that it won't look like it does now. We've been watching novel, modern history-making events unfold for like a month straight so to assume the landscape won't significantly change is probably a bad idea. I don't know the last time I said this, but if the election were held tomorrow it'd be a complete coin flip and I might even favor Harris. It's not held tomorrow though; at the moment that uncertainty is potential upside for Trump much as it was for Democrats when trying to get Biden to step aside.

People's opinions of Trump are hardened. Partisanship is a bitch. I doubt he wins any new supports but I doubt he loses many relative to 2016 or 2020 either. You can be reasonably sure of him getting his ~46% nationally and + 2%-3% on that in swing states that generally lean slightly right of the nation.

I really, truly hope that the current trajectory has trump looking weak and pathetic to even his own fake alpha maga cultists and that some of them who don't give a shit about politics only trump will lose interest because he can't even fake strong wannabe alpha energy anymore. They'll just return to listening to joe rogan and shooting guns and being racist at the local redneck bar to feel important. I really think a large part of the 42% to 45% are people who are only for trump and will stay home the weaker and more pathetic he looks, especially when confronted repeatedly by Black people, Black women especially. Fingers crossed that the operators of this simulation finally figured out that they've jumped the shark and need to make things at least a little more believable.

[Gatorubet 29838]

11 minutes ago, Tuco said:

Walz summarized the sentiment saying something like "If this was a TV show, it would be cancelled.  People are just tired of it." 

which is why he is a genius who can render my whole post into one sentence and I’m just an annoying windbag….

But if waltz agrees with me about the tired part

[Francisco 2.0 32239]

28 minutes ago, ALexusTexus7 said:

That’s not a Trump rally. But you knew that.

But odds are they were at the Trump rally before the ransacking of the capitol, right?

Or did they just wander up to DC and decided to take their own unescorted tour of the House and Senate.

 

[dcbc 14310]

30 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

Trump is Gen X's Reagan.

You misspelled Obama.

[Ted Lange 15937]

2 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

 

 

This is classic Dotard trying to take the spot light away from Project2025, JD's insane women without kids comments, and JD Vance fucking couches.

Edited July 31 by Ted Lange

[Gatorubet 29838]

2 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

 

Stupid Loomer does not know that 1/16 colored is in fact colored in the great State of Alabama

[Hugo Stiglitz 23289]

It pretty clear by Trump’s comments that he doesn’t understand critical race theory. 

[4th&Five 41322]

Birtherism 2.0. Because of course. 

[Brisketexan 103860]

10 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

I do think that this is just a matter of time. 

I don't.  He's not going to say it.  Because if he didn't say it TODAY, in that shitshow....he's not gonna say it.

12 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

How is this dipshit not instantly banned for trolling?

10 minutes ago, Foosters said:

for the same reason we don't execute the retarded

6 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

*anymore

Huh.  So I guess y'all have never even heard of a state called "Texas."

[chainsaw 9701]

1 minute ago, dcbc said:

You misspelled Obama.

Obama is a good person. Flawed, but good

['stache 21655]

3 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

 

This one can't be real. No fucking way. They know what mixed race means. They know that she went to Howard and is an AKA. They know that Jamaican people are predominantly Black. They know this won't help with Black voters and is at best neutral to the racist shitbags who are already in his cult. Can't be real, just can't.