2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[Biff Tannen 45403]

2 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Is it weird to eat your fries without ketchup? Asking for a friend.

I went to high school with a guy who later became a C-list actor, with such memorable appearances on True Blood and Desperate Housewives, who was a senior when I was a freshman and allowed me to tag along with him to off-campus lunch fairly often.  Since we only had 50 minutes to eat, and McDonalds was about a 15 minute drive each way, that gave us roughly 15 minutes to scarf down lunch.  He taught me how to annihilate the McD's fries without ketchup (this was pre-ketchup boat times, so fuck the squeeze packets) and then kill the double quarter pounder w/ cheese right afterwards.  That's it.  That's my story.

[linux 1600]

Even if we were to believe that what he did was out of loyalty to a friend you have an even bigger single interest group (women) out for blood. I do agree that we need to set rules on the future so our candidates don't have to be perfect but good luck with that, we need to win in November, then worry about that shit.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

I went to high school with a guy who later became a C-list actor, with such memorable appearances on True Blood and Desperate Housewives, who was a senior when I was a freshman and allowed me to tag along with him to off-campus lunch fairly often.  Since we only had 50 minutes to eat, and McDonalds was about a 15 minute drive each way, that gave us roughly 15 minutes to scarf down lunch.  He taught me how to annihilate the McD's fries without ketchup (this was pre-ketchup boat times, so fuck the squeeze packets) and then kill the double quarter pounder w/ cheese right afterwards.  That's it.  That's my story.

[Pancho 44084]

[Gil Bang 25827]

1 hour ago, mdmost said:

I would prefer a candidate for VP that people can rally around that won't instantly piss off the purity testing left. Walz or Beshear fit the bill. Shapiro's state is the only thing I like from him. He has the most possible negatives. Walz and Beshear's only negatives are they don't have enough name recognition and their states aren't that key to winning. That said, I think both could greatly help with reaching out to the middle in the Rust Belt. Walz is a midwest guy, hell he's the stereotype. Beshear can get you red state people. I also think Beshear gives you something that is a perfect antidote for white people who might be leery about voting for a black woman. He is representation. He's a young, white male. He has the perfect suburban looking family. People can see themselves in a guy like him. Yes, that's an appeal to a form of racial bias but I think he and his family would play really well with that demo. I think Walz could charm anyone over to his side with his Minnesota attitude. He feels like the living embodiment of Tommy Callahan Sr from Tommy Boy. 

My preference would be Walz>Beshear>>>>>>>>Shapiro. 

With that said, if Kamala and her team pick Shapiro then let's just fucking go. Winning is all that matters now. 

I don't give a fuck if she picks Switzer.  I'm 100% in.

[Biff Tannen 45403]

5 minutes ago, Pancho said:

[Bozo_Casanova 26123]

56 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Y’all know what this VP pick is about don’t you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That’s right, the BCS.

 

Dollar signs.

 

 

A dark horse emerges in the veepstakes

 

[ROFL BOX 6643]

6 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Sooo... my donation didn't come from me & I'm "a ghost"?

[Gil Bang 25827]

 

[Homercles 10205]

2 hours ago, TexEx15 said:

 

[Huckleberry 32628]

16 minutes ago, Pancho said:

This is true. No need for Trumpkins to vote. 

[HenryJames 65804]

17 minutes ago, Pancho said:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/behind-the-bastards/id1373812661?i=1000452138988

[Brian Fantana 6651]

23 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

I went to high school with a guy who later became a C-list actor, with such memorable appearances on True Blood and Desperate Housewives, who was a senior when I was a freshman and allowed me to tag along with him to off-campus lunch fairly often.  Since we only had 50 minutes to eat, and McDonalds was about a 15 minute drive each way, that gave us roughly 15 minutes to scarf down lunch.  He taught me how to annihilate the McD's fries without ketchup (this was pre-ketchup boat times, so fuck the squeeze packets) and then kill the double quarter pounder w/ cheese right afterwards.  That's it.  That's my story.

Man, I'm not gonna lie, I don't eat McD's much anymore, but I always eat the fries without ketchup. In fact, I think ketchup is a D-tier condiment at best. I'll see myself out.

[Bozo_Casanova 26123]

21 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

I went to high school with a guy who later became a C-list actor, with such memorable appearances on True Blood and Desperate Housewives, who was a senior when I was a freshman and allowed me to tag along with him to off-campus lunch fairly often.  Since we only had 50 minutes to eat, and McDonalds was about a 15 minute drive each way, that gave us roughly 15 minutes to scarf down lunch.  He taught me how to annihilate the McD's fries without ketchup (this was pre-ketchup boat times, so fuck the squeeze packets) and then kill the double quarter pounder w/ cheese right afterwards.  That's it.  That's my story.

I was friends in high school with the guy who played Todd the waiter in Office Space. He had been a child actor, and unfortunately his biggest adult role was so iconic that it made him Todd, forever. Also his name is actually Todd. He did some voice work but otherwise unable to find roles years later he waited tables at Bennigans to make ends meet.
Acting is a tough business. He's a location scout now. 

[Pato del Muerto 52216]

29 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

I went to high school with a guy who later became a C-list actor, with such memorable appearances on True Blood and Desperate Housewives, who was a senior when I was a freshman and allowed me to tag along with him to off-campus lunch fairly often.  Since we only had 50 minutes to eat, and McDonalds was about a 15 minute drive each way, that gave us roughly 15 minutes to scarf down lunch.  He taught me how to annihilate the McD's fries without ketchup (this was pre-ketchup boat times, so fuck the squeeze packets) and then kill the double quarter pounder w/ cheese right afterwards.  That's it.  That's my story.

You had to be taught how to eat?

[Biff Tannen 45403]

2 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

You had to be taught how to eat?

Maybe

[Biff Tannen 45403]

10 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I was friends in high school with the guy who played Todd the waiter in Office Space. He had been a child actor, and unfortunately his biggest adult role was so iconic that it made him Todd, forever. Also his name is actually Todd. He did some voice work but otherwise unable to find roles years later he waited tables at Bennigans to make ends meet.
Acting is a tough business. He's a location scout now. 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13520]

In high school my friend thought it was a good idea to smash a folded over ketchup packet, spraying a jet on my shirt. This was so hilarious in his head he was paralyzed in an asphyxiating open mouth laugh, allowing me to fling a pickle slice in retaliation which stuck perfectly on one of the lens of his glasses. Pickle-ass pirate motherfucker...

[The Hot Dog Buffet 1291]

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

Y’all know what this VP pick is about don’t you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That’s right, the BCS.

 

Dollar signs.

 

 

I thought I saw where Mangino took himself out of the running.

[Kdub 498]

9 hours ago, Zonahorn said:

 

This literally hits close to home..my hometown 

[Gil Bang 25827]

20 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I was friends in high school with the guy who played Todd the waiter in Office Space. He had been a child actor, and unfortunately his biggest adult role was so iconic that it made him Todd, forever. Also his name is actually Todd. He did some voice work but otherwise unable to find roles years later he waited tables at Bennigans to make ends meet.
Acting is a tough business. He's a location scout now. 

I see your Todd, and raise you "The Todd"

https://www.maschiorealestate.com/

 

[Homercles 10205]

4 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

In high school my friend thought it was a good idea to smash a folded over ketchup packet, spraying a jet on my shirt. This was so hilarious in his head he was paralyzed in an asphyxiating open mouth laugh, allowing me to fling a pickle slice in retaliation which stuck perfectly on one of the lens of his glasses. Pickle-ass pirate motherfucker...

This is the kinda hard-hitting, human interest investigative journalism that has kept me a satisfied Shaggy/Surly customer for over a decade

[dcbc 14363]

3 hours ago, immamac said:

Can someone please explain to me why the fuck everyone is posting yarns? They don't work half the time. 

They appear to work.  Sorry if I started a fight and ruined your Black Pantha' party.

[ChuckNorrisActionJeans 2654]

Someone said earlier that Shapiro shut down legal pro-Palestinian protests, called the protestors racist, and compared them to KKK? Any hyperbole there? because that would be insanely problematic. Sorry for coming in late. I'm not hardcore pro-Palestine but ugh... would NOT want that baggage. Taking as someone who'll vote for the ticket no matter what.... just want to win. 

[WBT 20340]

1 hour ago, Brian Fantana said:

Is it weird to eat your fries without ketchup? Asking for a friend.

Ketchup sucks.  Perfectly good tomatoes and vinegar ruined with a boatload of sugar/corn syrup

Edited August 3 by WBT

[Longhorn_Fan68 33774]

It just occurred to me that in the event of electoral tie, Kamala will get to vote a second time. That's fucking hilarious to me. 

[6th Street 6326]

5 minutes ago, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

Someone said earlier that Shapiro shut down legal pro-Palestinian protests, called the protestors racist, and compared them to KKK? Any hyperbole there? because that would be insanely problematic. Sorry for coming in late. I'm not hardcore pro-Palestine but ugh... would NOT want that baggage. Taking as someone who'll vote for the ticket no matter what.... just want to win. 

Agreed. Between his shitty takes on Palestinian protestors and enabling sexual harassment he needs to be out. Beshear is the guy 

[ROFL BOX 6643]

Ketchup talk [without regard or mention of the 🍊🤡] not going away.

[Homercles 10205]

3 minutes ago, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

Someone said earlier that Shapiro shut down legal pro-Palestinian protests, called the protestors racist, and compared them to KKK? Any hyperbole there? because that would be insanely problematic. Sorry for coming in late. I'm not hardcore pro-Palestine but ugh... would NOT want that baggage. Taking as someone who'll vote for the ticket no matter what.... just want to win. 

Ask PRONG HORN…pretty confident he can give you a fact-supported, well researched and, most importantly, balanced position on Shapiro’s history in regards to this matter 

[Sawbonz 27184]

5 minutes ago, WBT said:

Ketchup sucks.  Perfectly good tomatoes and vinegar ruined with a boatload of sugar/corn syrup

[Brian Fantana 6651]

7 minutes ago, Homercles said:

Ask PRONG HORN…pretty confident he can give you a fact-supported, well researched and, most importantly, balanced position on Shapiro’s history in regards to this matter 

He'll provide the best, most succinct summary that catturd, Ian Miles Cheong, Chaya Raichik or Elon Musk can provide [via a tweet].

[linux 1600]

In 2021, after Ben & Jerry’s (a company founded and led by Jewish Americans) refused to sell its products in Israel’s illegal settlements, Shapiro, who was then Pennsylvania's attorney general, threatened the company by urging state agencies to enforce a constitutionally suspect law targeting advocates of Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions, or BDS, against Israel over its discriminatory policies. Shapiro smeared such advocates by claiming that “BDS is rooted in antisemitism” – although the effort has wide support globally, including from many Jews, as a thoroughly nonviolent tactic aimed at advancing Palestinian rights.

https://www.salon.com/2024/07/30/picking-josh-shapiro-could-be-for-harris--heres-why/

 

[Schulz2.0 28703]

20 minutes ago, dcbc said:

They appear to work.  Sorry if I started a fight and ruined your Black Pantha' party.

Nah, some flat out don't work and the embedding continually breaks. Yarn is broke dick right now.

[Bozo_Casanova 26123]

In which very odd person and former UT Phrenology Dept head Richard Hanania spits out the bitter truth

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The thing about Republicans ruining Thanksgiving dinner hits home, because most whites who have achieved some level of success in life, or at least aspire to do so, have aggressively stupid catturd-type relatives they want to avoid. They define themselves in opposition to such people.

This is how the left wins.

 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13386]

52 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I was friends in high school with the guy who played Todd the waiter in Office Space. He had been a child actor, and unfortunately his biggest adult role was so iconic that it made him Todd, forever. Also his name is actually Todd. He did some voice work but otherwise unable to find roles years later he waited tables at Bennigans to make ends meet.
Acting is a tough business. He's a location scout now. 

Your story is suspect. The waiter with all of the flair was named Brian. 

 

Edited August 3 by Nice Guy Eddie

[Biff Tannen 45403]

36 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

In high school my friend thought it was a good idea to smash a folded over ketchup packet, spraying a jet on my shirt. This was so hilarious in his head he was paralyzed in an asphyxiating open mouth laugh, allowing me to fling a pickle slice in retaliation which stuck perfectly on one of the lens of his glasses. Pickle-ass pirate motherfucker...

 

[Biff Tannen 45403]

3 hours ago, immamac said:

Can someone please explain to me why the fuck everyone is posting yarns? They don't work half the time. 

They always work for me.  Yarn is the most consistent way to find movie quotes as gifs.  Copy image location and paste.  Works like a charm.

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3 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

It sounds to me like Clinton ended up governing for all, not just his party. Although for those laws to pass they had to get voted to his desk. Governing for all, what a novel concept. 

Yes, the Clintons were very altruistic and none of us here would say anything that would cause us to feel the need to go out in the woods and shoot ourselves in the back of the head, twice.

I can’t begin to comprehend how many hundreds of hours of Limbaugh I heard back in the 90s.  I was listening to the wrong Rush.

 

[Biff Tannen 45403]

3 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Your story is suspect. The waiter with all of the flair was named Brian. 

God dammit, you are absolutely right.

[Firemans4Horn 17680]

8 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

In which very odd person and former UT Phrenology Dept head Richard Hanania spits out the bitter truth

 

wow. Might have captured the zeitgeist of the last 4 years and last 6 weeks better than anything I’ve read or listened to. Thanks for sharing. 

[Chopper 17038]

3 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

Ah, okay. This is starting to make sense. You were awash in Republican propaganda while Clinton was in office, and the memory of GOP vitriol at the time is clouding your hindsight judgment. 

The Republicans hated Clinton for reasons, even though Clinton passed numerous regressive pieces of legislation. Politics is weird that way. Opinions are often irrational and counterproductive.

"Numerous regressive pieces of legislation" is again quite an exaggeration. Another whopper from you. Let's hope there's not many others like you who demand purity and don't seem to have the slightest clue about the need for occasional compromise to get things through Congress. His record is imperfect. Just like Obama's. I'm sure you would have preferred the results from 4 (more) years of GHWB, or Bob Dole or John McCain. 

I don't even recall why Clinton came up in conversation. That was 3 pages back now. I'm 100% for Walz as the pick. He has the "it" factor. None of the others seem to. Rural mid-westerner who served 24 years in the National Guard, was a teacher and football coach, an accomplished politician and engaging speaker. Natural leader and straight shooter with a folksy demeanor that'll play perfectly with Harris. 

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Tuesday night at the Urban Growler Brewing Company in St. Paul, Minn., was billed as a fundraiser, but for many in attendance it felt like a high school reunion. Among the crowd of IPA-sipping Minnesotans, graduates of Mankato West High found one another to embrace, catch up and listen to a speech from their favorite social studies and geography teacher.

“He’s a threat to everything we hold dear, that’s all true,” the teacher said about former president Donald Trump. “But we spent time making him into this thing that’s bigger than he is, giving him more credit than [we should]. And Minnesotans are the ones who told me this: You see it, you sense it, you know, your kids know when somebody’s weird!”

Was it weird for the former students that this teacher, Mr. Walz, was now Gov. Tim Walz (D-Minn.)? And that after going viral for effectively belittling Republicans as kooks (“These guys are just weird”), his name was on a short list to join Vice President Harris as her running mate?

Yes and no.

“We were all like, ‘Oh my gosh, this is wild,’” says Ann Vote, a motivational speaker and former student of Walz who attended the fundraiser, and described it to The Washington Post. “But I don’t get the sense that everyone is completely shocked. It’s sort of like, ‘Darn right he’s on that list. Absolutely he should be!’”

It’s not every day that a former public school teacher ends up in the mix for a presidential ticket. But for the students and teachers who crossed paths with Walz during his decade teaching in Mankato — a midsize city south of Minneapolis — it’s easy to look back now and see the signs that he could find himself in exactly that position.

Walz arrived in Minnesota in 1996, from his home state of Nebraska, along with his wife, Gwen, who got a job teaching English at the same school. At Mankato West, Mrs. and Mr. Walz were seen as powerhouse teachers who balanced out each other’s energy-levels: she was more reserved, and he was a boisterous ball of energy.

“He came in very outgoing, very gregarious,” says former social studies teacher Pat Griffiths. “If there were 100 people in a room and 99 loved him, he would work on the one who didn’t until they did too.”

As a self-described “passive-aggressive Minnesotan,” Griffiths took some time before jumping on the Walz bandwagon. But the new guy was persistent — and contained a politician’s unquenchable thirst for approval, and a certain sugar-free carbonated beverage.

“He would come into my office every day,” he says. “And I always had the coffee maker going, so everyone was welcome. He’d come in with a cup of Diet Mountain Dew and I’d be like, ‘Come on, put on your big-boy shorts and have a cup of coffee.’ But eventually I warmed to him anyway.”

Walz seemed to be able to charm everyone in his newfound home: teachers, students, and, in one instance, the guy manning the deli counter at the local market.

Kim Hermer, a longtime teacher at Mankato West, recalls that during Walz’s first autumn in town, a group of teachers decided it would be funny to pull a lighthearted prank on the newbie. They printed out a fake gift certificate for a free turkey — a supposed welcome gift from the community that could be collected at the grocery store in town.

“He went down there and left with a free turkey,” Hermer says.

How was he able to pull that off?

“I have no idea,” she says. “That’s just Tim Walz.”

Walz quickly earned the reputation as a guy who could get the most out of people. His love of history was infectious in the classroom where he would host “Jeopardy!”-style tournaments and invite other teachers to debate him on current events.

“Sometimes he would remind me of the Chris Farley character Matt Foley from SNL,” says Blake Frink, who says he became a geography teacher in part because he had been in Walz’s class. “Our school didn’t have air conditioning, and he would just get all sweaty and really passionate about whatever he was talking about. And it was just, you know, his shirt would get disheveled, but the passion would transfer over to us.”

Former students say they don’t remember Walz ever being overly ideological in the classroom, and yet, none were particularly surprised when he first made the jump into public service. The idea to run for office first came to Walz in 2004, he has previously said, after he and several of his students were blocked from entering a political rally for former president George W. Bush because one of the kids was spotted with a John F. Kerry sticker. He won a congressional seat in 2006, and served in the U.S. House of Representatives until after he won the 2018 gubernatorial election.

Before all that, he was the linebacker coach who helped turn around a winless football squad into state champions, while earning the trust of his players.

“I don’t want to be dramatic about it, but he maybe saved my life,” says Daniel Clement, a former linebacker who says he hung out with the wrong crowd before Walz showed him a kind of attention on and off the field he’d never experienced from a teacher before. “I was devoted to him, like, ‘Fine, I’ll keep going to school so I can play for you. I’ll keep training hard so I can try and win for you.’”

And in the mid-’90s, it was Walz who offered to be the first faculty adviser to the newly formed gay-straight alliance.

“The fact that he took on that role while also being the football coach was so important,” says Jacob Reitan, who was the first openly gay student at Mankato West. “He set an example not just for LGTBQ students but for football players in the locker room at a time where gay people were not well understood. He made the school a safe place for everybody.” (The story of the gay-straight alliance, as well as other moments from Walz’s teaching career, has been featured in political ads, a part of what multiple former students described to The Post as his “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington” appeal.)

It was, Reitan says, an early indication of one of Walz’s greatest strengths: his ability to “sell seemingly progressive ideas to seemingly not progressive crowds.”

“He is sort of all things to all people in the best way possible,” he says.

In part, this is why Walz is one of just six politicians who has reportedly met with Harris’s team as she sets to choose a running mate. He can be whatever he needs to be. He is a relatively young politician (60) who looks old (“You don’t leave that job with a full head of hair,” he once tweeted about supervising lunch rooms for 20 years). His agenda in Minnesota includes tuition-free college and universal school meals, but he’s also a former U.S. Army noncommissioned officer who can pull off a camo hat at a news conference. And, he’s the teacher given the “Most Inspiring” superlative in the Mankato yearbook, who can effectively deliver an attack on his Republican opponents.

“When he said Republicans were ‘weird’ it struck me like, this works from Walz,” says Jake Jagdfeld, who played linebacker under Walz in the late ’90s. “In politics he’s good at calling out B.S. without getting nasty or too down in the dirt. He’s just saying, ‘That’s weird’ and everyone gets that. It’s the kind of common sense he showed as a coach: practical and kinda goofy.”

Gov. Tim Walz greets Vice President Harris as she arrives at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport in March. (Stephen Maturen/AFP/Getty Images)
Maybe Harris will pick him, maybe as soon as Saturday. Maybe she’ll pick someone else. Walz is unlikely to stop pointing out the weirdness of Republicans he finds weird, such as vice-presidential nominee JD Vance, who apparently is also a Diet Mountain Dew drinker, but nevertheless:

“I don’t know where I end up in this,” Walz said, wrapping up his speech Tuesday at the brewery. “But I can tell you that for the next 98 days, I’m going to be on him like nobody’s business.”

 

 

[Brisketexan 104208]

In which very odd person and former UT Phrenology Dept head Richard Hanania spits out the bitter truth

The thing about Republicans ruining Thanksgiving dinner hits home, because most whites who have achieved some level of success in life, or at least aspire to do so, have aggressively stupid catturd-type relatives they want to avoid. They define themselves in opposition to such people.
This is how the left wins.

 

1) He’s kinda speaking the truth. He misses the fact that the left and center left have always had and been hospitable to white folks. Just because the white supremacists are made uncomfortable by being confronted with truths that INCLUDE our country’s unresolved institutional racism doesn’t mean that everything left of Trump is “all woke mind virus!”

2) Fuck that vile piece of shit.

3) BUT…his ultimate observation of the zeitgeist isn’t wrong.

[Chopper 17038]

36 minutes ago, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

Someone said earlier that Shapiro shut down legal pro-Palestinian protests, called the protestors racist, and compared them to KKK? Any hyperbole there? because that would be insanely problematic. Sorry for coming in late. I'm not hardcore pro-Palestine but ugh... would NOT want that baggage. Taking as someone who'll vote for the ticket no matter what.... just want to win. 

https://forward.com/opinion/640215/kamala-harris-running-mate-josh-shapiro-criticism/

[Nice Guy Eddie 13386]

6 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

God dammit, you are absolutely right.

This is a serious thread where we need serious people. If you’re going to name drop a character with 3 lines from a middling movie that was released 25 years ago, it’s gawd damn critical to be accurate. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26123]

12 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Your story is suspect. The waiter with all of the flair was named Brian. 

 

1) as I said, I’m in cognitive decline

2) he’ll always be Todd to me

[Dahobbs 17314]

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

 

1) He’s kinda speaking the truth. He misses the fact that the left and center left have always had and been hospitable to white folks. Just because the white supremacists are made uncomfortable by being confronted with truths that INCLUDE our country’s unresolved institutional racism doesn’t mean that everything left of Trump is “all woke mind virus!”

2) Fuck that vile piece of shit.

3) BUT…his ultimate observation of the zeitgeist isn’t wrong.

Yeah. It his hilarious that he the left is moving beyond "woke" because it is embracing whites. He doesn't understand that it was only his flawed perception of "wokeness" that ever led him to the conclusion that it was anti-white at all. 

[atomheartbevo 89295]

49 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

In high school my friend thought it was a good idea to smash a folded over ketchup packet, spraying a jet on my shirt. This was so hilarious in his head he was paralyzed in an asphyxiating open mouth laugh, allowing me to fling a pickle slice in retaliation which stuck perfectly on one of the lens of his glasses. Pickle-ass pirate motherfucker...

How the fuck did some of you make it through high school without murdering a classmate?

Edited August 3 by atomheartbevo

[Biff Tannen 45403]

2 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

a middling movie

[Chopper 17038]

It's entertaining to discuss who the VP pick could be but -- as of tonight -- we have it on the record that VP picks absolutely do not matter.

Edited August 3 by Chopper

[linux 1600]

Someone is on the bargaining stage of grief.