2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[Js1 83,356]

55 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

 

Wow, no one saw any of that coming....

[YGIFS 19,445]

1 hour ago, BamaATL said:

Who the fuck buys Time magazine?  Oh yeah, old people.  

Well I bought a copy alongside an issue of Hustler 'cause porn is banned in Texas now.  Thanks a lot, Bin Laden! 

[Js1 83,356]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/20/politics/biden-trump-campaign-contrasts/index.html

(Mentioned it upthread)

• Since Super Tuesday, Biden has been to every battleground state but one
• Trump has been to one (Georgia) and held a rally in not competitive red state Ohio (after cancelling a planned rally in Arizona)
• Biden in the midst of his most grueling in-person campaigning since the 2020 primaries (pre-COVID)
• Trump is golfing and hanging out at MAL "strategizing" and begging for money
• Biden has spent a ton of time in PA - Trump has been once in 2024 (NRA convention)
• Biden and Harris have both been to Wisconsin - Trump hasn't been since August 2022
• Biden was just in Arizona and twice in the second half of 2023 - Trump hasn't been since October 2022
• Trump plans to host "rallies" at MAL and Bedminster and force people to come to him

Also:

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g_elliottmorris

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biden's approval rating is trending up, and he's closing the gap with trump in general election polls

projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden…elections2024.thehill.com/natio…

 

[Neonmoon 38,126]

Republican Proposed Budget 

https://hern.house.gov/uploadedfiles/final_budget_including_letter_web_version.pdf

If anyone wants some fun light reading

My favorite section is the Ant-Vaccine section. So when your kid dies of a preventable disease. We all know who to thank

 

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• Rep. Brad Wenstrup’s (R-OH) Foreign Adversary Gain-of-Function Research Prevention Act, which would prohibit the use of federal funds to conduct or support gain-of-function research involving a potential pandemic pathogen by a foreign adversary.

• Rep. Guy Reschenthaler’s (R-PA) Defund EcoHealth Alliance Act, which would prohibit the award of federal funds to EcoHealth Alliance, Inc. and direct the Government Accountability Office (GAO) to audit federal funds provided to that organization over the past decade. EcoHealth Alliance is the nonprofit research center that partners with the Wuhan Institute of Virology to study coronaviruses and whose research may have been responsible for the outbreak of COVID-19. 36

• Rep. Chip Roy’s (R-TX) ARTICLE ONE Act, which would terminate any national emergency made by the executive branch after 30 days. The emergency declaration could only continue through an affirmative vote of Congress.

• Rep. Brad Wenstrup’s (R-OH) Stop Vaccine Mandates Act, which would permanently block President Biden’s unlawful COVID-19 vaccine mandate for federal workers.

• Oversight and Accountability Chairman James Comer’s (R-KY) Fairness for Federal Contractors Act, which would prevent employees of federal contractors from being forced to receive a COVID-19 vaccine.

• RSC Budget and Spending Task Force Chairman Ben Cline’s (R-VA) Stop Arduous Vaccine Enforcement (SAVE Act), which would prohibit organ transplant centers from engaging in the cruel practice of denying unvaccinated Americans access to life-saving organ transplants.

• Rep Andy Biggs (R-AZ) No Vaccine Passports Act, which would prohibit federal agencies from issuing vaccine passports to their employees.

• Rep. Doug LaMalfa’s (R-CA) Keep Vaccines Voluntary Act, which would require entities receiving COVID-19 relief funds to certify that they will not discriminate or deny access to services to unvaccinated Americans. • Rep. Andy Biggs (R-AZ) legislation to prohibit entities receiving COVID-19 relief funds from mandating COVID vaccines for their employees.

• Rep. Diana Harshbarger’s (R-TN) Natural Immunity is Real Act, which would require federal agencies to include natural immunity acquired from prior COVID-19 infections when issuing rules and regulations surrounding COVID-19.

• Rep. Ronny Jackson’s (R-TX) FREEDOM Act, which would require federal agencies to document the consequences of requiring their employees to be vaccinated. • Rep. Michael Cloud’s (R-TX) resolution disapproving of requiring children as young as 11 residing in Washington D.C. to be vaccinated.

• Rep. Ralph Norman’s (R-SC) Protecting Religious Students from Vaccine Mandates Act, which would require U.S. colleges and universities receiving federal funds to allow students to apply for religious exemptions from COVID-19 vaccine mandates on campus.

• Rep. Dan Bishop’s (R-NC) AMERICANS Act, which would immediately rescind the COVID-19 military vaccine mandate.

• Rep. Ralph Norman’s (R-SC) legislation barring the Department of Defense from requiring individuals to wear masks on U.S. military installations.

• Rep. Chip Roy’s (R-TX) Coronavirus Regulatory Repeal Act, which would permanently rescind the federal regulations suspended during the pandemic.

• Rep. Claudia Tenney’s (R-NY) Transparency in COVID-19 Expenditures Act, which would require the Government Accountability Office (GAO) to audit and report on spending authorized by pandemic related legislation. This would include the more than $100 billion in taxpayer dollars appropriated through COVID relief bills stolen by fraudsters.37

• Rep. Chris Stewart’s (R-UT) No Mask Mandate for Kids Act, which would prohibit the executive branch from imposing mask requirements in airports, on commercial aircraft, trains, public maritime vessels, intercity bus services, and all forms of public transportation.

• Rep. Claudia Tenney’s (R-NY) Ending COVID Vaccine Mandates for Colleges and Universities Act, which would prohibit an institution of higher education (IHE) from receiving federal funds or participating in federal higher education programs if the IHE imposes a COVID-19 vaccine mandate.

• Rep. Chip Roy’s (R-TX) HHS COVID-19 Origin Transparency Act, which would require HHS to publish all information pertaining to the origins of COVID-19. • Rep. Anna Paulina Luna’s (R-FL) Terminate CDC Overreach Act, which would amend Title III of the Public Health Service Act to limit the CDC’s ability to impose regulations as a means to control infectious diseases. This bill is designed to limit the scope of regulations to specific areas of outbreak, not regulating whole industries or activities—similar to the CDC’s COVID-19 eviction moratorium.

Finally, the RSC Budget supports two bills from Oversight and Accountability Committee Chairman James Comer (R-KY) that would roll back executive authority abused during the COVID-19 pandemic. First, the Stopping Home Office Work's Unproductive Problems (SHOW UP) Act would require each executive agency to reinstate the telework policies that were in place on December 31, 2019. Under the bill, agencies would be prohibited from implementing expanded telework policies unless the Office of Personnel Management certifies that such policies, among other requirements, will have a positive effect on the agency's mission and operational costs. Second, the Protecting Speech from Government Interference Act, which would prohibit federal employees from censoring speech in their official capacity. Employees would be subject to disciplinary action and/or civil penalties for censorship. The Missouri v. Biden case exposed how the Biden administration used agencies, such as the CDC, FBI, and CISA, to collaborate with social media companies and censor opinions on COVID-19 that differed from the administration’s preferred stance.38 Chairman Comer’s bill would prevent federal officials from engaging in censorship in the future

 

 

Edited March 21 by Neonmoon

[Red Five 40,357]

“… Biden is closing the gap with Trump….”

This fucking country.

[BamaATL 16,209]

11 minutes ago, Js1 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/20/politics/biden-trump-campaign-contrasts/index.html

(Mentioned it upthread)

• Since Super Tuesday, Biden has been to every battleground state but one
• Trump has been to one (Georgia) and held a rally in not competitive red state Ohio (after cancelling a planned rally in Arizona)
• Biden in the midst of his most grueling in-person campaigning since the 2020 primaries (pre-COVID)
• Trump is golfing and hanging out at MAL "strategizing" and begging for money
• Biden has spent a ton of time in PA - Trump has been once in 2024 (NRA convention)
• Biden and Harris have both been to Wisconsin - Trump hasn't been since August 2022
• Biden was just in Arizona and twice in the second half of 2023 - Trump hasn't been since October 2022
• Trump plans to host "rallies" at MAL and Bedminster and force people to come to him

Also:

 

You forgot the Washington General's shoe launch in Philly.  Sure to turn voters heads.  

[David Dennison 17,797]

Just now, Red Five said:

“… Biden is closing the gap with Trump….”

This fucking country.

This fucking media is more like it.

[Js1 83,356]

3 minutes ago, Red Five said:

“… Biden is closing the gap with Trump….”

This fucking country.

That also implies a) polls are reliable and b) polls have been telling the truth

I don't agree with either, but they are optics and Biden "closing" the "gap" just makes people calm down.  Maybe the vibes will be a little better. 

I also think it's a combo of things:

• Trump front and center again  - the media was not covering him (surprisingly) in a way that reminds voters who he really is.  The bloodbath comment has been front and center.
• People can finally stop wishing for that mythical Dem candidate - it's Biden and it was always going to be Biden, but people be stupid
• Soft Dems have registered their distaste of Biden in the primaries and are now rallying around him now that the race is 1v1
• Biden's post-SOTU polling bump - not quite the doddering old man the media has been telling us he is

And that's before you even get into the bad polls that show Trump winning 20-25% of black voters and 40-50% of 18-34 lol.  That shit ain't happening. 

Edited March 21 by Js1

[Surly Bevo 24,573]

2 hours ago, Jive Turkey said:

Good lord they’re trying so hard to change the optics. 

 

President Nixon Implicated in Watergate Break-In. Are The Democrats in Trouble in 76?

[Radical Larry 28,456]

2 hours ago, BamaATL said:

Who the fuck buys Time magazine?  Oh yeah, old people.  

They once had a good article about the nine members of Asian Dawn. 

[Js1 83,356]

1 minute ago, Surly Bevo said:

President Nixon Implicated in Watergate Break-In. Are The Democrats in Trouble in 76?

"President Bush tanked the economy.  Why this may provide a boost to Senator McCain's campaign" 

[TwiceHorn 30,850]

4 hours ago, BamaATL said:

Bullshit.  Right now we have a neighbor dealing with an adult daughter with tremendous mental difficulty and there is literally no where for her to go.  Specifically blaming Reagan may not be entirely right, but he and his ilk, and their cost cutting no government services platform are to blame for this sort of thing.  He was the ring leader of this movement that found power and his doctrines have guided us to where we are today. Trickle down economics and tax cuts for the rich have a direct correlation with the suspension of government services, like mental health.  He doesn't get a bad rap, if anything he gets far more of a pass from most Americans.  Fuck him, and fuck that movement.  

Except it wasn't that movement responsible for the closing of state hospitals, and the shift to "community care," which was due in large part to Medicaid and well underway by 1970.

Reagan did some to lower/end federal spending on mental health, but by then it was on "community" care, not institutions.

Edited March 21 by TwiceHorn

[tx 3 putt 75,479]

they need to buy every free second on foxnews and nascar races 

[The Original Greaser Bob 2,701]

The devastating ad should be about the economy and job creation and infrastructure build.  I'm not sure the Covid focus excites Dems as much as it motivates Republicans to blame every bad thing that happened during Covid on the Dems.

[BrickHorn 18,067]

#1 - That ad is awesome.

#2 - it will not convince a single Trump voter to change his mind. Those idiots are immune to facts and logic at this point.

[Js1 83,356]

Just now, BrickHorn said:

#1 - That ad is awesome.

#2 - it will not convince a single Trump voter to change his mind. Those idiots are immune to facts and logic at this point.

The goal is not to convince a Trump voter to change their mind.

The goal is to convince Haley voters to flip or not vote / leave it blank and to remind independents why they backed Biden in 2020.

[David Dennison 17,797]

2 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

#1 - That ad is awesome.

#2 - it will not convince a single Trump voter to change his mind. Those idiots are immune to facts and logic at this point.

Are Trump voters the target?

[Gatorubet 29,665]

4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Are Trump voters the target?

Narrator: “No, no they are not.”

[Chuckie Finster 22,321]

26 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The goal is not to convince a Trump voter to change their mind.

The goal is to convince Haley voters to flip or not vote / leave it blank and to remind independents why they backed Biden in 2020.

It's also to remind everyone how fucking inept Trump was at leading the country.  I genuinely think a lot of people have forgotten how batshit his daily press conferences were.

I know a lot of retroactive narratives have been written since, but there is not a doubt in my mind that Trump's handling of COVID is the primary reason Biden is in the White House right now.

[chainsaw 9,656]

30 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

#1 - That ad is awesome.

#2 - it will not convince a single Trump voter to change his mind. Those idiots are immune to facts and logic at this point.

I think they're mainly trying to discourage those voters on the margins, who might like Trump's policies somewhat but also don't want incompetent leadership and don't care enough about Trump to overcome their laziness and apathy. Ads that put Trump's incompetency under the spotlight could help keep those potential voters home.

[Js1 83,356]

2 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

It's also to remind everyone how fucking inept Trump was at leading the country.  I genuinely think a lot of people have forgotten how batshit his daily press conferences were.

I know a lot of retroactive narratives have been written since, but there is not a doubt in my mind that Trump's handling of COVID is the primary reason Biden is in the White House right now.

Yeah this ad targets soft GOP/independents to remind them of the chaos of the Trump presidency and how he bungled COVID.  

[chainsaw 9,656]

32 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The goal is not to convince a Trump voter to change their mind.

The goal is to convince Haley voters to flip or not vote / leave it blank and to remind independents why they backed Biden in 2020.

Nevertrumpers exist. Not enough of them, but they do exist. They might just need reminders for why it's better to vote Biden than to stay home, and permission to feel good about their decision to vote Biden.

[Red Five 40,357]

1 hour ago, BrickHorn said:

#1 - That ad is awesome.

#2 - it will not convince a single Trump voter to change his mind. Those idiots are immune to facts and logic at this point.

You could do many variations of that ad, which I hope is what they're planning. Do the economy next. Then the capitol attack. Then the impeachment in his final days. 

[6th Street 6,297]

1 hour ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

The devastating ad should be about the economy and job creation and infrastructure build.  I'm not sure the Covid focus excites Dems as much as it motivates Republicans to blame every bad thing that happened during Covid on the Dems.

Agreed, COVID provides a difficult compare vs 4 yrs ago. Better for focus on low unemployment, chips act, and other infra

[Red Five 40,357]

And really, the options are almost limitless. Do one showing all of his various legal "issues". End it with "Your president isn't facing 91 felony counts, doesn't owe half a billion dollars, and wasn't found liable of sexual assault. So, yes, we're better off."

['stache 21,564]

3 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

 

 

2 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

they need to buy every free second on foxnews and nascar races 

Yeah, that's pretty bad, but have you heard that there's a picture book of Hunter Biden having sex with drag queens being given to school children as part of the woke curriculum? And the caravans of Mexican gang members are being let into the country and given amnesty for rape they commit? And that Biden is requiring McDonalds to charge $47.50 for a McChicken? And CRT is going to make being white a crime?

This is what he's up against. They don't fucking care about facts. They being half the goddamned country.

Edited March 21 by 'stache

[henrygandorf 28,824]

2 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

It's also to remind everyone how fucking inept Trump was at leading the country.  I genuinely think a lot of people have forgotten how batshit his daily press conferences were.

I know a lot of retroactive narratives have been written since, but there is not a doubt in my mind that Trump's handling of COVID is the primary reason Biden is in the White House right now.

this shit right here.  i'm tired of reading stories about the country's collective amnesia about the trump presidency.  i remember it.  pepperidge farms remembers it.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,718]

5 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

this shit right here.  i'm tired of reading stories about the country's collective amnesia about the trump presidency.  i remember it.  pepperidge farms remembers it.

one wonders how anyone could possibly forget

[Biff Tannen 45,151]

1 hour ago, 'stache said:

caravans of Mexican gang members are being let into the country and given amnesty for rape they commit? And that Biden is requiring McDonalds to charge $47.50 for a McChicken? And CRT is going to make being white a crime?

I could take this to the maga in laws and they would 100% nod along and probably be happy that I was finally coming around.

[aggie08 20,480]

Can't say I agree with reminding people of COVID 2020. 100% of the people still on the fence and still at least considering voting for Trump are somewhere on the "yeah, COVID was bad, but the government--largely Democrats--went too far" spectrum. That's just the reality.

[hayden_horn 11,311]

8 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

this shit right here.  i'm tired of reading stories about the country's collective amnesia about the trump presidency.  i remember it.  pepperidge farms remembers it.

 

8 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

one wonders how anyone could possibly forget

yall the wife and i recently binged through the q series on max and then get me roger stone

even in that, there was shit, like terribly outrageous stuff, that i had put out of my mind and I'm vindictive as fuck that still had me going what the fuck

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11,536]

the electric vehicle stuff is going to play poorly in MI i fear.

[SydneyCarton 47,471]

18 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

this shit right here.  i'm tired of reading stories about the country's collective amnesia about the trump presidency.  i remember it.  pepperidge farms remembers it.

 

18 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

one wonders how anyone could possibly forget

Counterpoint, it's hard for all of us to fathom just how unintelligent most of America actually is...

[Js1 83,356]

57 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

the electric vehicle stuff is going to play poorly in MI i fear.

Probably not as much as you fear.  People really overestimate this stuff. 

[Huckleberry 32,414]

2 hours ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

the electric vehicle stuff is going to play poorly in MI i fear.

Is there some kind of state law that you can't build electric vehicles in Michigan? 

Whitmer and the state are already working to position Michigan as an EV/ battery manufacturing center (which makes sense obviously). I don't understand why conversion to EVs would scare Michigan voters. If everyone suddenly replaced ICE vehicles with EVs that would be a boon to Michigan, not a disaster. 

[StassneyHorn 6,440]

12 hours ago, aggie08 said:

Can't say I agree with reminding people of COVID 2020. 100% of the people still on the fence and still at least considering voting for Trump are somewhere on the "yeah, COVID was bad, but the government--largely Democrats--went too far" spectrum. That's just the reality.

Shutdowns started under the Trump administration and he’s been jabbed plenty. Easiest message in the world

[TexPx 2,297]

Shutdowns started under the Trump administration and he’s been jabbed plenty. Easiest message in the world

No telling what the Deep State implanted in him when he was in Walter Reed.

[TexEx15 17,254]

[mdmost 42,459]

Well you have to take what he says seriously, not literally. 

[Biff Tannen 45,151]

13 hours ago, aggie08 said:

Can't say I agree with reminding people of COVID 2020. 100% of the people still on the fence and still at least considering voting for Trump are somewhere on the "yeah, COVID was bad, but the government--largely Democrats--went too far" spectrum. That's just the reality.

I kind of agree with this.  It's too easy for dipshits, especially those with kids who had to stay home from school for months, to screech about how we overreacted.  Of course, the flip side of that coin is, what if we had under-reacted and the virus had been way worse and all of your precious little ones had died?  Might the shoe be on the other foot?

[atomheartbevo 89,015]

10 hours ago, StassneyHorn said:

Shutdowns started under the Trump administration and he’s been jabbed plenty. Easiest message in the world

10 hours ago, TexPx said:

No telling what the Deep State implanted in him when he was in Walter Reed.

This is what we need to be pushing with the Qanon crowd.  

[TexPx 2,297]

This is what we need to be pushing with the Qanon crowd.  

Oh it’s mucho fun. Whenever a MAGA acquaintance spouts one of their conspiracy theories I counter with one even nuttier about Trump.

If they demand confirmation all I say is “do your own research” or “it’s on the Dark Web if you look hard enough” or “Soros is going to release the info in two weeks”

[Bullneck 18,744]

On 3/21/2024 at 10:47 AM, Jive Turkey said:

Good lord they’re trying so hard to change the optics. 

 

The saying about these old magazines: "Look is the magazine for those who don't read.  Time is the magazine for those who don't think.'

Edited March 23 by Bullneck

[TexEx15 17,254]

 

[Bullneck 18,744]

[tx 3 putt 75,479]

If I was black, I’d charge $100/hr 

 

 

Edited March 24 by tx 3 putt

[cactusflinthead 27,181]

Just when I think he couldn't possibly be more rotten than I already know

 

[Goredho 17,178]

2 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

If I was black, I’d charge $100/hr 

 

 

Where's Chappelle when we need him most...

[cactusflinthead 27,181]

Today in laughable polls

[tchookem 3,895]

If I was black, I’d charge $100/hr 
 
 

Demand to be paid up front.