2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[bolverk 30390]

4 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Serious question. Has their been a Republican Prez or VP nominee who was Jewish ever in modern times?  Know the Ds had Liebermann. 

Unless you Founding Father deists and other quiet atheists/agnostics, I think Lieberman was the first and only non-Christian to ever be on any ticket. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

It’s time to realize that conventional wisdom has proven to be mostly dogshit when it comes to national politics over the last 20-50 years or so. 

[Red Five 41804]

Serious question. Has there been a Republican Prez or VP nominee who was Jewish ever in modern times?  Know the Ds had Liebermann. 

Neither party has a Jewish person on the ticket. Advantage: GOP.

[Huckleberry 34761]

35 minutes ago, babysdaddy said:

I'm clearly not part of the majority here but this feels like an unforced error.  While I don't really think VP picks matter, she 100% has to win Pennsylvania to win and instead of picking the very popular governor she went with a guy from a state that was never in doubt.  I think Shapiro would've locked down PA and don't think picking him would've impacted Minnesota or Michigan. It can be framed pretty easily that she didn't pick Shapiro due to him being Jewish (even though that isn't true).  The honeymoon bump is over and now its about to be a race.  

You are correct that the most superficial and naïve analysis would lead to this conclusion. The problem is that the assumptions are all wrong. Here are some of the completely incorrect assumptions you're basing this on. 

1. Shapiro VP with Walz as a campaign surrogate helps win Pennsylvania more than Walz VP with Shapiro as a campaign surrogate. 

2. The Jewish angle will have any traction beyond internet morons.

Hope that helps.

Edited August 6 by Huckleberry

[Js1 87333]

Now I know she made the right call since throwing the antisemitism thing out there is just a MAGA talking point

The Republican Party has no right to lecture anyone on antisemitism 

[Surly Bevo 25801]

So as a party you’ve never nominated a Jew but that’s gonna be a line of attack on the party who has at least once historically and the top of that ticket is married to one. 
 

got it. 
 

just the fucking dumbest people pandering to the dumbest people. 

[HenryJames 67517]

Shit’s not hard.

[YGIFS 19460]

2 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Unless you Founding Father deists and other quiet atheists/agnostics, I think Lieberman was the first and only non-Christian to ever be on any ticket. 

It's pretty clear with the benefit of historical hindsight that Jefferson was a mutt of Deist/Agnostic/Atheist.  Other than some church appearances in a public capacity, really no record of him exist as a Christian of any ilk.  

That's about as close as we have had in this country.  Trump is not a Christian but he tries to play one on TV.  Since compulsory chapel at Penn, guy spends 50 years in New York, home to 4000 Christian houses of worship.  No record of him belonging to any of them at any point between college and running for President.  Other than weddings and funerals, nobody ever once saw him in a house of worship at any time over a half-century.  

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

3 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

It's pretty clear with the benefit of historical hindsight that Jefferson was a mutt of Deist/Agnostic/Atheist.  Other than some church appearances in a public capacity, really no record of him exist as a Christian of any ilk.  

Didn’t Jefferson rewrite the Bible or something where he took all the magic out of it.  Like no Virgin Mary, no miracle working, no resurrection 

[YGIFS 19460]

Yes, in part.  That was his "Deism" footprint he left behind as a lesson to the nation he helped build.  Flawed as he was, he knew how things could go sideways in a hurry with this experiment still in its infancy.  

[Royalfan5 2384]

2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Didn’t Jefferson rewrite the Bible or something where he took all the magic out of it.  Like no Virgin Mary, no miracle working, no resurrection 

Bet he left the sex with slaves in though. 

[Royalfan5 2384]

 

[OU Sucks 9405]

Just drove through Philly where I saw 3 big Trump billboards along I-95, the best being something like "Trump - Will Unite America".  Bro can't even unite his own party.

Edited August 6 by OU Sucks

[Royalfan5 2384]

 

[SydneyCarton 49538]

1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

 

1 hour ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

I doubt he tweeted that on Aug 60th though. 

 

1 hour ago, mdmost said:

Putt, if it says Parody anywhere on the screen, it's a fake. You're the Prong Horn of leftists. 

 

1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

it’s humor 😂😂

Well, it's humorous that you thought Tim_Balz was his offical twitter account, sure. 

[BurntOrange&White 42027]

22 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

You are correct that the most superficial and naïve analysis would lead to this conclusion. The penitent is that the assumptions are all wrong. Here are some of the completely incorrect assumptions you're basing this on. 

1. Shapiro VP with Walz as a campaign surrogate helps win Pennsylvania more than Walz VP with Shapiro as a campaign surrogate. 

2. The Jewish angle will have any traction beyond internet morons.

Hope that helps.

[Pancho 46430]

 

[Js1 87333]

The KamalaKrash people are very quiet about that today lol

[Covri 6379]

Butte 

 

[Hank Kingsley 21821]

 

[Dnaguy 12729]

Is it me or do you guys feel that the writers of 2024 are going to throw another curve ball that swings the pendulum back towards Trump and the republicans?! 

IDk. This good news stuff has got me worried. 

[OU Sucks 9405]

2 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Is it me or do you guys feel that the writers of 2024 are going to throw another curve ball that swings the pendulum back towards Trump and the republicans?! 

IDk. This good news stuff has got me worried. 

Sir, this is the "Let's keep the party going" thread. You should post that in the "2024 Presidential Election - Doom and Gloom Prediction" thread.

Edited August 6 by OU Sucks

[Js1 87333]

2 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Is it me or do you guys feel that the writers of 2024 are going to throw another curve ball that swings the pendulum back towards Trump and the republicans?! 

IDk. This good news stuff has got me worried. 

No. Stop being a pussy 

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

2 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Is it me or do you guys feel that the writers of 2024 are going to throw another curve ball that swings the pendulum back towards Trump and the republicans?! 

IDk. This good news stuff has got me worried. 

Kinda feels like right before Obama was elected in his 1st term to me.

At least the vibes.

[mdmost 44139]

2 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Is it me or do you guys feel that the writers of 2024 are going to throw another curve ball that swings the pendulum back towards Trump and the republicans?! 

IDk. This good news stuff has got me worried. 

[Post Oak 20595]

16 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

 

This guy's ads are like a Chevy commercial. All we need is Bob Seger singing Like A Rock.

 

Edited August 6 by Post Oak

[Hank Kingsley 21821]

1 minute ago, Post Oak said:

This guy's ass are is like a Chevy commercial. All we need is Bob Seger singing Like A Rock.

 

fify 

[Chopper 17459]

1 hour ago, babysdaddy said:

I'm clearly not part of the majority here but this feels like an unforced error.  While I don't really think VP picks matter, she 100% has to win Pennsylvania to win and instead of picking the very popular governor she went with a guy from a state that was never in doubt.  I think Shapiro would've locked down PA and don't think picking him would've impacted Minnesota or Michigan. It can be framed pretty easily that she didn't pick Shapiro due to him being Jewish (even though that isn't true).  The honeymoon bump is over and now its about to be a race.  

Shapiro would've been the safe choice to try to lock down a key electoral state. Walz is the choice to go balls to the wall and try to beat the hell out of the fascist fucks all across the heartland.

 

42 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Is it me or do you guys feel that the writers of 2024 are going to throw another curve ball that swings the pendulum back towards Trump and the republicans?! 

IDk. This good news stuff has got me worried. 

The news media will try to turn the story into "Harris did this or said that" horrible thing, because they want clicks and controversy. They're currently stymied because she was THE story for so long due to momentum. Now the story is her VP choice, and next (13 days) it will be more momentum, the Convention and the post-Convention bounce. However, for sure, the media will try as hard as possible to find a wedge story about a split in the Democratic party about something controversial, like the border or Palestine.

Edited August 6 by Chopper
gramma

[South Austin 53324]

28 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Is it me or do you guys feel that the writers of 2024 are going to throw another curve ball that swings the pendulum back towards Trump and the republicans?! 

IDk. This good news stuff has got me worried. 

@Brisketexan, please pick up the burnt orange courtesy phone.

[Js1 87333]

5 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Shapiro would've been the safe choice to try to lock down a key electoral state. Walz is the choice to go balls to the wall and try beat the hell out of the fascist fucks all across the heartland.

And Shapiro would have blunted momentum - labor unions are meh on him, he doesn’t excite progressive or young voters and he has a lot of things he’d be on defense about. Walz was the pick. If Harris isn’t winning PA by herself, she isn’t winning the election elsewhere 

[Blotto 24046]

2 hours ago, G650 said:

They are posting through it I see

its the fucktarded "patriot" version of the band on the titantic

2 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

Sad that this is what passes for politics these days. 
 

Here is that same choad when he was younger: 

 

https://www.reverbnation.com/joeymannarino

This fucking loser tried to be an R&B act, lulz. But no talent = no money in the "influencer" world. these people are desperate for online clout, and magtards will give it, so he's trafficking in hate for those clicks. Just another in a long line of grifters will ride this Trump shitshow into their  grave. 

[Gatorubet 30823]

1 hour ago, bolverk said:

Unless you Founding Father deists and other quiet atheists/agnostics, I think Lieberman was the first and only non-Christian to ever be on any ticket. 

I give you George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, both non-Christians. and I know you said deists, But their flavor of deist was pointedly non-Christian.

George Washington’s pastor said that he was not a Christian, and that George refused to take communion.   When the pastor mildly rebuked him by saying they were important personages who were not taking communion, Washington walked out of church and never went back.    

If non-Christian is the litmus test then he passes it.  And we all know about Jefferson cutting out the superstitious parts of the Bible, leaving only the philosophical sayings of Jesus.

Edited August 6 by Gatorubet

[Hank_Hill 20117]

1 hour ago, Huckleberry said:

You are correct that the most superficial and naïve analysis would lead to this conclusion. The problem is that the assumptions are all wrong. Here are some of the completely incorrect assumptions you're basing this on. 

1. Shapiro VP with Walz as a campaign surrogate helps win Pennsylvania more than Walz VP with Shapiro as a campaign surrogate. 

2. The Jewish angle will have any traction beyond internet morons.

Hope that helps.

I THINK he was doing a chainsaw impression….or he’s just dumb.

[Old Freak Nasty 821]

Of all the things in this simulation, the most unbelievable is the Democratic Party suddenly is making all the right moves?  WTF is this?

Let's put this fascist fever in a coffin!

[cactusflinthead 27628]

This? This is what they think is going to help them with the suburbs? 

Bwahaha!

[NorthLoop 14555]

[Fudge Nuggets 19489]

1 hour ago, bolverk said:

I think Lieberman was the first and only non-Christian to ever be on any ticket. 

Obama is a Kenyan, Marxist, Muslim.  Or so I was told.

[Hookah Horns 3089]

On 8/2/2024 at 11:03 PM, Dahobbs said:

Good steaks don't require ketchup. Mediocre steaks don't require ketchup. Bad steaks aren't steaks. In short, you don't eat steaks with ketchup god damn it. 

I thought the sarcasm would be obvious. 

[cactusflinthead 27628]

Just in case we men need a reminder.

Just saying 

[YGIFS 19460]

15 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

This? This is what they think is going to help them with the suburbs? 

Bwahaha!

There are 40 "sub-denominations" of Lutheranism.  Including "The Big 3" here in the U.S.  LCMS, WELS, and ELCA.  Having my father's side of my family deeply involved in the Lutheran Church over the past century (my great aunt was the first woman to graduate Harvard Divinity School and went on to become one of the first ordained ministers in the church after the the AALC/Synod shakeup/breakoff.  My paternal grandfather was a Church Elder in the LCMS for decades in both Illinois, North Carolina, and Florida.  There are a number of churches with plaques dedicated to him and his service.  All that to say, to this day, there is a lot of political infighting among Lutherans in the U.S. and Europe, and has been for centuries.  Such is the price you pay for being the first Protestant movement.  First guy through the wall always gets bloodied.  

But I'd like to give a friendly pro-tip to Lyman Stone and MAGA nation...85% of the U.S. is not Lutheran nor do they give fuck one about the differences within our protestant faith.  I'd add at least 1/3rd of Lutherans aren't active in the church and another 1/3rd don't really care about the divisiveness within the 'Big 3' sects.  So that means about 5% of all U.S. adults will actually take serious Walz's outlook on the Augsburg Confession.  

A country that elected a guy who clearly didn't even know the difference the two biblical testaments and thinks the Imperial Diet of the Holy Roman Empire is when an American Dictator gets all the ketchup on his pasta he wants.  Is suddenly gonna get wise on the 28 articles and hold it against a guy from Minnesota who is just happy to be with his family in a congregation of acceptance and faith and love on Sundays?  

You got a better shot at grabbing America's attention with the couch fucking thing.  

[Fudge Nuggets 19489]

26 minutes ago, Blotto said:

But no talent = no money in the "influencer" world.

This isn't true.  There are plenty of no talent ass clowns raking in big bucks in the dumbass influencer world.

[Aqua Buddha 14816]

16 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

This? This is what they think is going to help them with the suburbs? 

Bwahaha!

A Methodist in disguise!!!!!

[cactusflinthead 27628]

 

[MissingInAction 25619]

1 hour ago, Dnaguy said:

Is it me or do you guys feel that the writers of 2024 are going to throw another curve ball that swings the pendulum back towards Trump and the republicans?! 

IDk. This good news stuff has got me worried. 

[South Austin 53324]

2 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

A Methodist in disguise!!!!!

And Methodists!!!

 

[Royalfan5 2384]

3 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

There are 40 "sub-denominations" of Lutheranism.  Including "The Big 3" here in the U.S.  LCMS, WELS, and ELCA.  Having my father's side of my family deeply involved in the Lutheran Church over the past century (my great aunt was the first woman to graduate Harvard Divinity School and went on to become one of the first ordained ministers in the church after the the AALC/Synod shakeup/breakoff.  My paternal grandfather was a Church Elder in the LCMS for decades in both Illinois, North Carolina, and Florida.  There are a number of churches with plaques dedicated to him and his service.  All that to say, to this day, there is a lot of political infighting among Lutherans in the U.S. and Europe, and has been for centuries.  Such is the price you pay for being the first Protestant movement.  First guy through the wall always gets bloodied.  

But I'd like to give a friendly pro-tip to Lyman Stone and MAGA nation...85% of the U.S. is not Lutheran nor do they give fuck one about the differences within our protestant faith.  I'd add at least 1/3rd of Lutherans aren't active in the church and another 1/3rd don't really care about the divisiveness within the 'Big 3' sects.  So that means about 5% of all U.S. adults will actually take serious Walz's outlook on the Augsburg Confession.  

A country that elected a guy who clearly didn't even know the difference the two biblical testaments and thinks the Imperial Diet of the Holy Roman Empire is when an American Dictator gets all the ketchup on his pasta he wants.  Is suddenly gonna get wise on the 28 articles and hold it against a guy from Minnesota who is just happy to be with his family in a congregation of acceptance and faith and love on Sundays?  

You got a better shot at grabbing America's attention with the couch fucking thing.  

Especially since Walz is ELCA, and the default response to any rant about the differences is going to be a shrug of the shoulders, and to hand you a dessert bar or a scoop of some sort of salad. Also might open the door for a Rick Steves endorsement too. 

[Hookah Horns 3089]

The bullshit about antisemitism is hilarious. Conservatives vigorously decry people playing the race card the instant something negatively affects a minority, but they have no qualms doing the same bullshit to serve their ends. Exhibit eleventy billion that these people have no principles at all. 

[Red Five 41804]

10 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Just in case we men need a reminder.

Just saying 

I bet the son of a bitch also wants to just hand out free toilet paper in schools!

[Royalfan5 2384]

I feel like I should note on an ELCA note too, that we are the ones funding a lot of the refugee resettlement in the Midwest that people get pissy about. As our Pastor told us one Sunday, "If you complain about refugees, I don't know why you're here because that's what we are spending your offering on"

[mchookem 16821]

18 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Just in case we men need a reminder.

Just saying 

i am reminded of the surly genius who remarked 'women use, what, like two or three tampons a day on their period? what's the big deal about the cost?'