2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

3 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

 Well ok, but nobody proposed price controls.

For the record, I don’t love the proposal because the juice (hand waving about price gouging to mollify progressives) isn’t worth the squeeze (people who know better calling it price controls, and people who don’t believing them).

What daylight do you see between what she's talking about and price controls?  It's not like we're the only ones that say it looks like that.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/08/15/kamala-harris-price-gouging-groceries/

 

https://time.com/7011214/kamala-harris-campaign-federal-ban-price-gouging-food-groceries-inflation/

[David Dennison 19541]

What's wrong with mocking white people?

[Js1 87182]

The Trump campaign has spent 4x as much money in Georgia once Harris became the nominee compared to pre-Harris in 2024. Of the $37m in ad buys for next week, $24m is in Georgia

They are scared.  They know they have no path to winning without Georgia.  And it is a tied race - not to mention AZ slipping into lean Harris and NC also a tied race.

Also means their "fix" with the Election Board not certifying isn't as foolproof as people on here act like it is. 

[Okie State 3889]

Why am I not at all surprised people would take offense to Walz joking about white people not liking spice? Snowflakes indeed.

[The Original Greaser Bob 2888]

5 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

What daylight do you see between what she's talking about and price controls?  It's not like we're the only ones that say it looks like that.

Most state price gouging statutes contain these three elements:

1. Emergency or Crisis Situation – applies to abrupt price increases during a time of disaster or other emergency
2. Essential Items or Services – applies exclusively to items or services that are essential to survival
3. Price Limit – sets a limit on the price that can be charged for essential goods or services

I could see a Price Gouging statute that had a relatively high standard of proof that required a showing of monopoly or a certain jump in profit margin unrelated to product improvement, etc. 

I see something like that as distinct from simple price controls.

[achooloco 1086]

9 hours ago, NorthLoop said:

You joke, but phdhorn is a super climate change denier. It's pretty much the reason he doesn't post here anymore. 

Damn, missed that and that’s unfortunate. Loved his storm tracker threads (that was him right?)

 

edit: never mind, asked and answered. I should have kept reading the thread before posting.  

Edited August 16 by achooloco

['stache 22134]

3 minutes ago, Okie State said:

Why am I not at all surprised people would take offense to Walz joking about white people not liking spice? Snowflakes indeed.

It’s because they are completely humorless. People of all different races and ethnic groups make fun of their own stereotypes including white people with a sense of humor. It’s called self deprecating humor. The mocking of Kamala laughing and pointing out that we’ve never seen Trump or Vance or any of the sycophants utter a genuine chuckle revealed that aspect of their personalities. Their souls are truly wretched. 

Edited August 16 by 'stache

[Biff Tannen 46166]

9 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

What's wrong with mocking white people?

[Red Five 41738]

Why am I not at all surprised people would take offense to Walz joking about white people not liking spice? Snowflakes indeed.

Greatest scandal in modern history.

“But your nominee has said we should get rid of the constitution and that he wants to be a dictator.”
“Whatever. The real scandal is what Walz said about food.”

[Mittens 8731]

 

[Gatorubet 30717]

7 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I sometimes think the people who believe he's thrown in the towel and is just grifting are right.  He is not acting like somebody who wants to actually win.  

I think the narcissist brain of his was sure that he would beat the old senile Biden, and so felt comfortable, dismantling the RNC and any state level ground game in order to fund his criminal defense attorneys and civil judgments.   Literally everything has to be viewed through the lens of the narcissist, and after the first debate and the assassination attempt, I’m sure he felt literally bulletproof and invincible. 

At some level, he now knows that he is at a disadvantage after gutting the GOP election machine with Harris gaining momentum.   Which is why he whines about how unfair it is that Biden stepped down.    I think he grew comfortable knowing that he was going to dismiss all of the serious charges.   Now, he knows he may not win.

Why I think he will continue to lose his shit is because he looks at the race as the only means of keeping his sad ass out of a jail cell.   I think that level of stress and panic will continue to increase as the convention is a hit and Harris gets the normal convention bounce. That will produce even more unhinged and emotional outbursts from the guy.    

[TwiceHorn 32079]

3 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

 Well ok, but nobody proposed price controls.

For the record, I don’t love the proposal because the juice (hand waving about price gouging to mollify progressives) isn’t worth the squeeze (people who know better calling it price controls, and people who don’t believing them).

That said, words have meaning and  I’m not going to play along with that framing. I see this as a VERY modest step towards reasserting a modicum of oversight of monopolistic behaviors and cartels. 

Do we even know what the proposal is?

This whole subject intrigues me because I am firmly convinced that capitalism/business is run amok, but the only candidate/policy person with sensible reforms I can think of is Liz Warren.

ETA:  Scraping around, this seems to be pretty much pandering and some mush-mouthed stuff about using the antitrust laws against alleged gougers.  Nothing like an actual "federal ban on 'corporate price-gouging."

Edited August 16 by TwiceHorn

[TexEx15 17948]

Oh look. A racist dog whistle.

[The Original Greaser Bob 2888]

For the record, I hate the phrase "juice isn't worth the squeeze" more than the whole steak no sizzle and soup to nuts. 

Not taxing tips is stupid. 

[gmr548 16701]

38 minutes ago, Chopper said:

I disagree with your premise. They're putting meat on the bones of her campaign (edit - for the media, for content at rallies) and appealing to younger votes, not mollifying progressives. Candidates need a simple plan to rally an audience on the stump, and to sound like a reasonable step to the media. Detailed plans and discussing policy doesn't work. The media pays no attention. See Hillary Clinton's campaign, for example. The next 10 weeks aren't about legislation; they're about winning an election so you can pass legislation. Bare bones ideas are what matters in a campaign. The legislative process is where you worry about the details, but they have to get there first. 

 

 

Jeez, the extreme-whites are really kicking up a fuss about spicy tacos. Fortunately, they're on the receiving end of a snide of mockery.

Black pepper being too spicy is a long held Minnesota stereotype. Getting triggered about joking around with that is just out of touch and, well, I'm not trying to pedal a talking point but it's fucking weird and maladjusted.

[Js1 87182]

4 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Do we even know what the proposal is?

This whole subject intrigues me because I am firmly convinced that capitalism/business is run amok, but the only candidate/policy person with sensible reforms I can think of is Liz Warren.

Maybe we should wait until she makes her policy speech today. For all we know, maybe she worked with Liz on it 

[The Original Greaser Bob 2888]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

For all we know, maybe she worked with Liz on it 

Uncredited I hope.  

 

[gmr548 16701]

3 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

Oh look. A racist dog whistle.

There should be a simple question put to her on live TV there: "She is the Vice President of the United states and a major party nominee for President. You are a member of Congress. We know you know her name and how to properly pronounce it. Why are you purposefully choosing to mispronounce it?"

The same applies to really any GOP goon trying to drum up enthusiasm by stroking racist undertones.

Edited August 16 by gmr548

[A-Tex Devil 2500]

Mace used to be one of the semi reasonable ones (eg during the certification).  I feel like she hired a publicist or something and realizes that there is money in them there hills (pun kinda intended) and has now gone all in. 

[Scheiss Meister 8470]

20 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

What's wrong with mocking white people?

Mocking them makes them "others", and white people can never be "others".  Unless, of course, they are not straight, republican males.  Then it's bombs away.

[TwiceHorn 32079]

2 minutes ago, A-Tex Devil said:

Mace used to be one of the semi reasonable ones (eg during the certification).  I feel like she hired a publicist or something and realizes that there is money in them there hills (pun kinda intended) and has now gone all in. 

Yeah, there was a time when she seemed to be one of the more sensible conservatives that wasn't all-in on the culture war shit.

But she has well and truly fallen in line.

[BrickHorn 18447]

10 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

This whole subject intrigues me because I am firmly convinced that capitalism/business is run amok, but the only candidate/policy person with sensible reforms I can think of is Liz Warren.

Liz Warren should serve as America’s first Secretary of Fixing All The Stupid Shit Greedy Assholes Did To Our Country. 

[TwiceHorn 32079]

10 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Maybe we should wait until she makes her policy speech today. For all we know, maybe she worked with Liz on it 

As I ETA'd, it appears that this is some pretty mushy pandering about task forces and antitrust enforcement and using existing laws, which doesn't seem to have any real teeth.

I guess we can hope.

Edited August 16 by TwiceHorn

[YChang 3569]

9 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Maybe we should wait until she makes her policy speech today. For all we know, maybe she worked with Liz on it 

Maybe and I doubt it's nearly as wonky or as progressive as what Warren would propose. 

[TexasEd 8266]

22 hours ago, mdmost said:

It's all about laying the foundation to contest the election when he loses. He'll file lawsuits that she was not a legitimate candidate because Biden won the primaries. It's just throwing grievance shit against the wall. But it's also whining because he spent years making Biden out as the feeble candidate and now that's him. 

This.  He played with fire:  "Joe (80) is too old for the job vote for me (78)"

Now that the narrative is rooted and bore fruit he can't change it because he's got almost 20 years on Kamala.  He laid his own trap.

 

 

[Texas Jeff 1999]

13 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

 

Sometimes they give the Medal of Freedom to a humble guy who's not expecting it:
 

 

[Chopper 17432]

15 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

Oh look. A racist dog whistle.

 

10 minutes ago, A-Tex Devil said:

Mace used to be one of the semi reasonable ones (eg during the certification).  I feel like she hired a publicist or something and realizes that there is money in them there hills (pun kinda intended) and has now gone all in. 

The longer version of that roundtable is quite damning about Mace's integrity and an embarrassing #fail. (It's also a great example of why I turned off cable news 20ish years ago). https://www.threads.net/@acynig/post/C-txLthxcl2/?xmt=AQGz43WHI2p-jebsal4ta-ZGKFxW3XdYuWsZbXFFLMNtKA

https://www.threads.net/@acynig/post/C-txLthxcl2/?xmt=AQGz43WHI2p-jebsal4ta-ZGKFxW3XdYuWsZbXFFLMNtKA

[SydneyCarton 49501]

43 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

What's wrong with mocking white people?

Nothing, but apparently a ton of us get really upset when it's done by non-white people. I don't get it. 

[Rimbo 27019]

Kinda says it all about the candidates' priorities, doesn't it?

[Chuckie Finster 23075]

Mace used to be one of the semi reasonable ones (eg during the certification).  I feel like she hired a publicist or something and realizes that there is money in them there hills (pun kinda intended) and has now gone all in. 

She’s JD Vance with a vagina (and same amount of eyeliner).

[jimmyjazz 47198]

21 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Liz Warren should serve as America’s first Secretary of Fixing All The Stupid Shit Greedy Assholes Did To Our Country. 

I'd prefer Katie Porter, but OK.

[Chopper 17432]

The racists are still very angry and offended about a joke.

Meanwhile:

 

Edited August 16 by Chopper

[Kel Varnsen 8748]

A watermelon and chicken taco sounds like something Torchy's would serve as Taco of the Month.

[Js1 87182]

Just now, Kel Varnsen said:

A watermelon and chicken taco sounds like something Torchy's would serve as Taco of the Month.

In February 

[BurntOrange&White 41861]

Just now, Kel Varnsen said:

A watermelon and chicken taco sounds like something Torchy's would serve as Taco of the Month.

For $8

[SydneyCarton 49501]

3 minutes ago, Chopper said:

The racists are still very angry and offended about a joke.

The thing about this latest fake outrage, to me, is that it makes no fucking sense.

First, I'm not offended, because I'm a white guy and I like tons of spicy fucking shit. Second, when she says mayonnaise or tuna...she's listing bland things. How does that have anything to do with race? He is the one who volunteers White Guy Tacos. So I guess the white guy can't make fun of himself now? It literally makes no sense from any fucking angle. 

[hornmpa96 2668]

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

For $8

With terrible gummy flour tortillas

[jimmyjazz 47198]

2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

The thing about this latest fake outrage, to me, is that it makes no fucking sense.

Of course it makes no sense.

1 minute ago, hornmpa96 said:

With terrible gummy flour tortillas

I get that they buy them . . . do they not heat them up?  Gah Torchy's is a beating.

[Pancho 46309]

3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

The thing about this latest fake outrage, to me, is that it makes no fucking sense.

First, I'm not offended, because I'm a white guy and I like tons of spicy fucking shit. Second, when she says mayonnaise or tuna...she's listing bland things. How does that have anything to do with race? He is the one who volunteers White Guy Tacos. So I guess the white guy can't make fun of himself now? It literally makes no sense from any fucking angle. 

Well they thought they could “JV Vance” Walz and as it turns out they cannot because JV is just terrible and Walz is our nations next Uncle-Daddy.

 

And because they know no one likes their shit and they are losing. That part too. 

[TexasEd 8266]

17 hours ago, Blotto said:

That's a strange alias for his penis, but he's a strange dude. 

"Weird",  the correct term is "weird"

16 hours ago, shakahorn said:

Probably considers them just one song.

Eruption/You really got me,  yeah, I identify with that.  It's why streaming sucks because it treats them like two different songs most of the time.

[4th&Five 42005]

 

[Bozo_Casanova 26851]

39 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

What daylight do you see between what she's talking about and price controls?  It's not like we're the only ones that say it looks like that.

 

Sure. Price controls are restrictions on prices, set by a central authority.
 

This ain’t that. This proposal would expand the scope of FTC’s oversight to include wholesale market power in food commodities and to remind the DOJ that antitrust regs exist. And possibly institute price gouging bans at the federal level similar to what already exists in most states. 
 

It’s not a matter of daylight. Calling this “price controls” is a Pavlovian response trained into the media and citizens by rent-seekers working the refs. 

[DigglerontheHoof 21551]

8 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

The thing about this latest fake outrage, to me, is that it makes no fucking sense.

First, I'm not offended, because I'm a white guy and I like tons of spicy fucking shit. Second, when she says mayonnaise or tuna...she's listing bland things. How does that have anything to do with race? He is the one who volunteers White Guy Tacos. So I guess the white guy can't make fun of himself now? It literally makes no sense from any fucking angle. 

Falls under the endless list of "every accusation is a confession" category for those morons. 

[WhatTheBuck 28929]

57 minutes ago, Okie State said:

Why am I not at all surprised people would take offense to Walz joking about white people not liking spice? Snowflakes indeed.

Nobody’s offended. It’s theater. 

[hornmpa96 2668]

5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

 

I get that they buy them . . . do they not heat them up?  Gah Torchy's is a beating.

I think they pull tortillas from the walk-in and put them straight in the plastic basket. Those tortillas have never seen the flattop grill.

[UncleSonny 6798]

8 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

The thing about this latest fake outrage, to me, is that it makes no fucking sense.

First, I'm not offended, because I'm a white guy and I like tons of spicy fucking shit. Second, when she says mayonnaise or tuna...she's listing bland things. How does that have anything to do with race? He is the one who volunteers White Guy Tacos. So I guess the white guy can't make fun of himself now? It literally makes no sense from any fucking angle. 

If you offended by the phrase “white guy tacos”, it’s because those are actually the only type of tacos you like and you’re self conscious about being made fun of for it now. 

White guys who like good tacos have been using the phrase “white people tacos” for years as a helpful way to know which establishments to avoid. 

[MissingInAction 25556]

18 hours ago, Bojack said:

I heard that with all that food Trump is going to debut a Gallagher type routine in order to appeal to younger voters. 

If this happened no one would be surprised in the least.

[Firemans4Horn 18530]

18 minutes ago, Chopper said:

The racists are still very angry and offended about a joke.

[WhatTheBuck 28929]

20 minutes ago, Chopper said:

The racists are still very angry and offended about a joke.

Meanwhile:

 

Why can their white guy make jokes about white people when our white guy can’t make jokes about black people? That’s racist!

[Jive Turkey 13001]

3 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Nobody’s offended. It’s theater. 

Yep.  The Nancy Mace clip was definitely theater. She pronounced Kamala correctly then remembered she’s supposed to mispronounce it so everybody could get outraged. This is basically professional wrestling.  Mace is the heel and has to insult Kamala so the babyfaces can come to her rescue.

I used to expect more of CNN, but not anymore.