2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[Ghost of LL 15255]

18 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

This is lovely, except it isn't true as it relates to the "conservative" Republican party in modern history. The party of Reagan and Bush that all of the Never Trumpers supported was also a party of shitty policy and bigotry (albeit in more hushed tones I suppose). Granted, they weren't a threat to democracy like the current iteration, but let's not pretend that "any conservative party" would support a bolstered social safety net, the freedom of bodily autonomy if you happen to be a woman, etc. 

Of course, I'm happy to have as big of a tent as possible this coming November. 

 

These are exactly the values supported by Nixon and Ford.  And the Republican Party under Nixon and Ford was a "conservative" party.

You're right that Reagan (I'm not sure that I will concede Bush) started the change in direction from "conservative" to "reactionary."  But for the most part, it was reactionary in rhetoric only.  The Republicans of the 80s and 90s had the good political sense not to actually do anything to ban abortion, no matter how much they might talk of doing so.  And they had the good political sense to manage immigration and create paths to citizenship (though Pete Wilson thought racial scapegoating of Hispanics was the way to go, resulting in the destruction of the Republican Party in California).

As you go from Nixon to Trump, there is clearly a reactionary creep to the Republican Party.  But I'd argue that that is really only clear in retrospect.  It was just a Dole or McCain win away from remaining firmly tied to conservativism.

I mean, maybe.

[TexEx15 17253]

[Js1 83352]

Oh my god, the media is the biggest collection of snowflakes outside of the current Republican party

 

 

[Jive Turkey 12383]

4 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

But the GQP today is not a conservative party.  It is a reactionary party.  And reactionism is not "conservativism."

Yep. This is the GQP today in a nutshell. That’s who they are and what they project. Can’t even go outside and walk across the street bc people with dark skin will rape or shoot you.

 

Edited August 20 by Jive Turkey

[Constant 6548]

5 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

This is the GQP today in a nutshell. That’s who they are and what they project. Can’t even go outside and walk across the street bc people with dark skin will rape or shoot you.

 

Hatred and fear. Spreads like a disease when sowed on the uninformed. It’s the only play they have that works. 

[Js1 83352]

5 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

This is the GQP today in a nutshell. That’s who they are and what they project. Can’t even go outside and walk across the street bc people with dark skin will rape or shoot you.

 

Oh that explains why Mexico City felt so safe over the weekend.  All the bad people are here, raping and stealing bread.

[Planet Houston 4918]

6 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

Can’t even go outside and walk across the street bc people with dark skin uniforms will rape or shoot you.

FIFaccuracy

[hookemATL 11509]

oh fuck and I need to go to HEB later and get bread.  Should I wear a bulletproof vest and an anal bum cover? BODIES IN THE TREES BEING RAPED AND SHOT!!

[Goredho 17178]

12 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

This is the GQP today in a nutshell. That’s who they are and what they project. Can’t even go outside and walk across the street bc people with dark skin will rape or shoot you.

 

That’s a pretty fucking good Biden debate impersonation.  Now, do it again.

[Kel Varnsen 8327]

Will I get raped by a man or a woman? Will determine if I really need bread.

[HenryJames 65525]

22 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

This is the GQP today in a nutshell. That’s who they are and what they project. Can’t even go outside and walk across the street bc people with dark skin will rape or shoot you.

 

[Pancho 42839]

 

[aggie08 20480]

Wait, who's fucking a loaf of bread now?

[Beantown Express 2.0 6513]

1 minute ago, aggie08 said:

Wait, who's fucking a loaf of bread now?

Probably Vance.  Couch, bread, what's the difference.

I can't believe Trump didn't mention that people can't afford the cost of a loaf of bread which is like what, $30 a loaf.  

[4th&Five 41184]

 

[aggie08 20480]

Can always depend on CNN to cover the is water wet stories of the day.

[lemonlime 5485]

36 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

Yep. This is the GQP today in a nutshell. That’s who they are and what they project. Can’t even go outside and walk across the street bc people with dark skin will rape or shoot you.

 

So obviously we need to vote for the party that supports gun control and whose candidate isn't a rapist.

 

We're on the stupidest timeline.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33718]

if he's on that street that's likely true

Edited August 20 by Longhorn_Fan68

[Skipper 5967]

Tell me Kamala isn't actually supporting 44.6% capital gains tax idiocy like I'm suddenly seeing on twitter.   

[Chopper 16620]

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33718]

1 minute ago, Skipper said:

Tell me Kamala isn't actually supporting 44.6% capital gains tax idiocy like I'm suddenly seeing on twitter.   

reread what you just wrote and find your error

[Brian Fantana 6616]

1 hour ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Can you dipshits take the Israel talk to, oh I don’t know, the fucking Israel thread?

There's a credible report that Trump is trying to do an end-around with another world leader to hurt his opponent in the election. That's not relevant to the election? I guess not if you're a crybaby bitch.

[BurntOrange&White 38877]

[immamac 41718]

Just now, Brian Fantana said:

There's a credible report that Trump is trying to do an end-around with another world leader to hurt his opponent in the election. That's not relevant to the election? I guess not if you're a crybaby bitch.

Yeah this isn't about Israel it's nuanced about current admin and potential admin fuckery that has outcomes in the election. 

[TheStoicPaisano 9837]

 

[Guadaloopy 10801]

33 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

Probably Vance.  Couch, bread, what's the difference.

I can't believe Trump didn't mention that people can't afford the cost of a loaf of bread which is like what, $30 a loaf.  

[The Original Greaser Bob 2701]

7 minutes ago, immamac said:

Yeah this isn't about Israel it's nuanced about current admin and potential admin fuckery that has outcomes in the election. 

 

[The Original Greaser Bob 2701]

Goddammit when will this election be over?

[Guadaloopy 10801]

5 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I don't think he's landing the point he thinks he's making.  You can just throw the UNO reverse on it, ergo If it's OK for the government to regulate price controls for consumer goods, then it's OK to regulate woman's health decisions over her own body.  This thought process and logic train needs to cook a bit more.

[Biff Tannen 45151]

6 hours ago, Blotto said:

If that fat fuck starts stalking her around the stage, she should tell him she can smell his overflowing diaper from 6 feet away and to kindly keep his foul smelling ass on his half of the stage. And then refer to him only as poopy pants for the remainder of the debate.

 

Does she have to use the word “poopy”?

[Jiggy-Z 3422]

45 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Trump gonna get sued by actual billionaire.

[Aqua Buddha 14217]

11 minutes ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

 

It’s like The Villages where all the music and schtick from when they were young.

[The Dog 43408]

 

[Js1 83352]

Just now, The Dog said:

 

[Gil Bang 25651]

1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

These are exactly the values supported by Nixon and Ford.  And the Republican Party under Nixon and Ford was a "conservative" party.

You're right that Reagan (I'm not sure that I will concede Bush) started the change in direction from "conservative" to "reactionary."  But for the most part, it was reactionary in rhetoric only.  The Republicans of the 80s and 90s had the good political sense not to actually do anything to ban abortion, no matter how much they might talk of doing so.  And they had the good political sense to manage immigration and create paths to citizenship (though Pete Wilson thought racial scapegoating of Hispanics was the way to go, resulting in the destruction of the Republican Party in California).

As you go from Nixon to Trump, there is clearly a reactionary creep to the Republican Party.  But I'd argue that that is really only clear in retrospect.  It was just a Dole or McCain win away from remaining firmly tied to conservativism.

I mean, maybe.

Reagan's the asshole that opened the door for all the bible-thumping kooks to take over. 

1 hour ago, Jive Turkey said:

Yep. This is the GQP today in a nutshell. That’s who they are and what they project. Can’t even go outside and walk across the street bc people with dark skin will rape or shoot you.

 

I guess I've been sheltered, because I've never seen ANYONE get murdered, raped, or mugged.   I'm pretty sure I'd speak up if I saw it.  "Hey you...knock off that raping".

[wildcat09 28540]

31 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Tell me Kamala isn't actually supporting 44.6% capital gains tax idiocy like I'm suddenly seeing on twitter.   

I see the problem here.

[Biff Tannen 45151]

3 hours ago, bluto said:

Shocking 

Almost like they are shameless grifters, just like dotard. 

[Js1 83352]

 

NEW: Schumer just hosted a group of reporters here in Chicago and made some news on a few different fronts. —He wants to revisit a filibuster carve-out, this time for abortion. Schumer said they could get it done this time bc Sinema/Manchin will be gone & they could have Gallego in AZ. (Obviously this depends on Dems having majority.) —On taxes, said he wants to bump highest-earners rate back up to 39% and said he’d “very strongly consider” no taxes on tips proposal. (Dems would have seat at table during the negotiations if they control at least one of the trifecta.) —Schumer said Thune/Cornyn have shown “too much independence” from Trump and that if Trump wins, he’d annoint a “hard-right” GOP leader.
 

[immamac 41718]

8 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

At this point they seem to have largely given up helping Donald Trump and are actively sabotaging. 

[Chopper 16620]

Multiple layers of weirdness...

[aggie08 20480]

Quote

RFK Jr’s VP pick Nicole Shanahan

[G650 13282]

7 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Multiple layers of weirdness...

Heaven forbid I dissuade anyone from piling on JD Vance, but black shoes and navy suiting is the classic combination.

[SubliminalHorn 6384]

1 hour ago, Brian Fantana said:

There's a credible report that Trump is trying to do an end-around with another world leader to hurt his opponent in the election. That's not relevant to the election? I guess not if you're a crybaby bitch.

K

[Red Five 40355]

Heaven forbid I dissuade anyone from piling on JD Vance, but black shoes and navy suiting is the classic combination.

I don’t do it, but I wouldn’t mock anyone for it.

[TexasEd 8017]

11 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Not going to lie between her social media team and the actual ads Harris team is knocking it out of the park...like probably the best run campaign so far that I can remember from that standpoint.

Waiting for the morning in America moment

[TexEx15 17253]

 

[Slacks 6712]

4 hours ago, Red Five said:

"Donald Trump is preventing a ceasefire in the same way that he prevented meaningful action on the border."

Let's hear some version of this every night the next three nights. 

"See, Trump IS the President. They just admitted it."

[SydneyCarton 47471]

21 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

 

What’s insane is every one of those quotes from trump saying a on the last 6 weeks. 

[PenelopeWitherspoon 18489]

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

 

NEW: Schumer just hosted a group of reporters here in Chicago and made some news on a few different fronts. —He wants to revisit a filibuster carve-out, this time for abortion. Schumer said they could get it done this time bc Sinema/Manchin will be gone & they could have Gallego in AZ. (Obviously this depends on Dems having majority.) —On taxes, said he wants to bump highest-earners rate back up to 39% and said he’d “very strongly consider” no taxes on tips proposal. (Dems would have seat at table during the negotiations if they control at least one of the trifecta.) —Schumer said Thune/Cornyn have shown “too much independence” from Trump and that if Trump wins, he’d annoint a “hard-right” GOP leader.
 

They need to give me back my state and local deduction if they are raising that top rate back to 39%. Fuck Trump.

[TexEx15 17253]

Hits close to home. Wife’s (no pics) family is from Nicaragua. They love them some Ana and she spit nothing but facts here.