2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[Tonesky 852]

3 hours ago, Red Five said:

Kamala looking good today in that button-down and blazer. 

I was focused more on the cute young woman, with a touch of cray, over her right shoulder. 

[Haphap 727]

4 hours ago, TexasEd said:

Lol

 

 

So a Senator from Ohio's first time in Toledo, Ohio?  

[tx 3 putt 75491]

trump gives zero fucks about the election results. his money will be spent on lawyers post election …

[Chopper 16626]

5 hours ago, TexasEd said:

Lol

 

 

That's Rep. Marcy Kaptur. Vid is from 2023. I love her complete disdain for him. She's been in Congress since 1983.

 

Edited September 3 by Chopper

[BearSchlong 8004]

My sister moved to Eden Prairie about a month ago, she got to see Walz for a fleeting moment yesterday.

https://www.fox9.com/news/gov-walz-minnesota-state-fair.amp

[atomheartbevo 89016]

1 hour ago, Haphap said:

So a Senator from Ohio's first time in Toledo, Ohio?  

Rep. Kaptur: First time here?

Vance: "First time here at this human city, yeah."

 

[bluto 4819]

1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

trump gives zero fucks about the election results. his money will be spent on lawyers post election …

Far from it, it’s counting NC as safe then pushing all in on ga/pa for the win. It’s better than a punchers chance considering 20 margins in those states 

[Tuco 5051]

Some nice earned media here.  They are definitely making the unions front and center this campaign. 

 

[Old Freak Nasty 697]

Reading mainstream news websites tonight, I'm struck by how far these outlets are going to "report" the news that the race, at this point in time, is razor thin and is a moments away from Trump leading again.  Cloaking themselves in the cape of margin of error, they not so transparently editorialize for clicks.

Even given the litany of evidence that Trump is scattershot and incoherent, they almost universally make the claim that Harris is the one to be afraid of Trump's rhetoric.  None of it makes sense in the slightest and none of it is news.  It's a big ass op-ed cesspool, fooling less informed readers into thinking Trump is leading fishing for rage and fear clicks.

I'm not sure if there is even a point I'm making, other than I really should just stick to this thread to get the polling.

If the election was today these outlets would be proven massively wrong, as Harris would bludgeon Trump.  That said, the election is still a while away and things could certainly swing in his favor just enough for him to squeak by.  But the only candidate that has a path to an EC bloodbath is Harris, the polling seems to point.

MSM is disingenuous.  That might be serving a point in that we have to resource this fight through election day and not take a vote for granted no matter how good it looks in the present.  It still annoys the hell out of me reading these stupid articles.

[Keef 729]

5 hours ago, TexEx15 said:

 

At least someone has gotten paid for hosting a Trump rally.

[WhatTheBuck 28614]

3 hours ago, Old Freak Nasty said:

Reading mainstream news websites tonight, I'm struck by how far these outlets are going to "report" the news that the race, at this point in time, is razor thin and is a moments away from Trump leading again.  Cloaking themselves in the cape of margin of error, they not so transparently editorialize for clicks.

Even given the litany of evidence that Trump is scattershot and incoherent, they almost universally make the claim that Harris is the one to be afraid of Trump's rhetoric.  None of it makes sense in the slightest and none of it is news.  It's a big ass op-ed cesspool, fooling less informed readers into thinking Trump is leading fishing for rage and fear clicks.

I'm not sure if there is even a point I'm making, other than I really should just stick to this thread to get the polling.

If the election was today these outlets would be proven massively wrong, as Harris would bludgeon Trump.  That said, the election is still a while away and things could certainly swing in his favor just enough for him to squeak by.  But the only candidate that has a path to an EC bloodbath is Harris, the polling seems to point.

MSM is disingenuous.  That might be serving a point in that we have to resource this fight through election day and not take a vote for granted no matter how good it looks in the present.  It still annoys the hell out of me reading these stupid articles.

What we are seeing and what we are reading is not what’s happening? Is that what you’re saying?

Someone else once said that.

The election is going to be close, just like in 2020. Don’t kid yourself. 

[Beantown Express 2.0 6513]

The below is long but I copied it from someone I know who just posted this shit on Facebook.  Shit like the below is why this country is screwed.  Many of you will say this person is a racist or Fascist but I just think they are just brainwashed by the media and believe this shit.  We seem to be in the middle of a giant psychological experiment in this country and seeing what TV/Radio and social media can do to people’s brains and it’s frightening.   Below is why people continue to vote for Trump even though pretty much everything in there is false and laughable if it didn’t piss me off and frighten me at the gullibility of people in this country to believe anything they see or hear.  Also, the below will be copied and pasted a million times on Facebook and other places and it will convince people to vote for Trump that may not have.  It probably swings more votes than a TV ad at this point.
 

“Someone recently asked me why I like Trump. My answer was that I don't really like a lot of things about Trump.  

He’s not my pastor or spiritual leader. I’m voting for a platform. But this election is not about choosing the most likeable person. 

We are voting between two vastly different ideologies. We are voting for the country we want to leave our children and grandchildren. 

Trump represents that future and has proven that he can deliver. He is a patriot to the core and even served his country for 4 years without pay.

That moment when someone says, 
"I can't believe you're voting for Trump". I simply reply, “I'm NOT voting for Trump.”

I'm voting for the First Amendment and freedom of speech. I'm voting for the right to speak my opinion and not be censored. 

I’m voting for secure borders and LEGAL immigration. I am voting for election integrity to include mandatory voter ID.  (Why would anyone vote against this?)

I'm voting for the Second Amendment and my right to defend my life and my family.

I'm voting for the police to be respected once again. 

I am voting for law & order and an end to allowing protesters to trespass and burn our cities, destroying innocent small business. (Tim Walz)

I am voting for personal responsibility and the end of the revolving door where criminals are being put back on the street. (Kamala Harris)

I'm voting for the next Supreme Court Justice(s) to protect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

I’m voting for a return of our troops from foreign countries and the end to America’s involvement in foreign conflicts.

I'm voting for the Electoral College and for the Republic in which we live.

I’m voting for the continued appointment of Federal Judges who respect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

I’m voting for keeping our jobs to remain in America and not be outsourced all over the world - to China, Mexico and other foreign countries.

I am voting for doing away with all of the freebies given to all of the illegals and not looking after the needs of the American citizens and homeless veterans. 

I'm voting for the military & the veterans who fought for this country 

I'm voting to keep men out of women's sports.

I’m voting for peace progress in the Middle East.

I’m voting to fight against human/child trafficking.

I'm voting for Freedom of Religion. 

I am voting for the return of teaching math, history, and science instead of the indoctrination of our children. 

I'm not just voting for one person. 
I'm voting for the future of my Country.

I'm voting for my children and my grandchildren to ensure their freedoms

America is the greatest country in the world, hense why everyone wants to immigrate here. So why do you want to change it? 
 
Why do politicians want to enact policies that have failed in other countries throughout history?  

I'm not voting for Trump. 
I'm voting for America.” 

 

[Fudge Nuggets 18978]

47 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

The below is long but I copied it from someone I know who just posted this shit on Facebook.  Shit like the below is why this country is screwed.  Many of you will say this person is a racist or Fascist but I just think they are just brainwashed by the media and believe this shit.  We seem to be in the middle of a giant psychological experiment in this country and seeing what TV/Radio and social media can do to people’s brains and it’s frightening.   Below is why people continue to vote for Trump even though pretty much everything in there is false and laughable if it didn’t piss me off and frighten me at the gullibility of people in this country to believe anything they see or hear.  Also, the below will be copied and pasted a million times on Facebook and other places and it will convince people to vote for Trump that may not have.  It probably swings more votes than a TV ad at this point.
 

“Someone recently asked me why I like Trump. My answer was that I don't really like a lot of things about Trump.  

He’s not my pastor or spiritual leader. I’m voting for a platform. But this election is not about choosing the most likeable person. 

We are voting between two vastly different ideologies. We are voting for the country we want to leave our children and grandchildren. 

Trump represents that future and has proven that he can deliver. He is a patriot to the core and even served his country for 4 years without pay.

That moment when someone says, 
"I can't believe you're voting for Trump". I simply reply, “I'm NOT voting for Trump.”

I'm voting for the First Amendment and freedom of speech. I'm voting for the right to speak my opinion and not be censored. 

I’m voting for secure borders and LEGAL immigration. I am voting for election integrity to include mandatory voter ID.  (Why would anyone vote against this?)

I'm voting for the Second Amendment and my right to defend my life and my family.

I'm voting for the police to be respected once again. 

I am voting for law & order and an end to allowing protesters to trespass and burn our cities, destroying innocent small business. (Tim Walz)

I am voting for personal responsibility and the end of the revolving door where criminals are being put back on the street. (Kamala Harris)

I'm voting for the next Supreme Court Justice(s) to protect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

I’m voting for a return of our troops from foreign countries and the end to America’s involvement in foreign conflicts.

I'm voting for the Electoral College and for the Republic in which we live.

I’m voting for the continued appointment of Federal Judges who respect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

I’m voting for keeping our jobs to remain in America and not be outsourced all over the world - to China, Mexico and other foreign countries.

I am voting for doing away with all of the freebies given to all of the illegals and not looking after the needs of the American citizens and homeless veterans. 

I'm voting for the military & the veterans who fought for this country 

I'm voting to keep men out of women's sports.

I’m voting for peace progress in the Middle East.

I’m voting to fight against human/child trafficking.

I'm voting for Freedom of Religion. 

I am voting for the return of teaching math, history, and science instead of the indoctrination of our children. 

I'm not just voting for one person. 
I'm voting for the future of my Country.

I'm voting for my children and my grandchildren to ensure their freedoms

America is the greatest country in the world, hense why everyone wants to immigrate here. So why do you want to change it? 
 
Why do politicians want to enact policies that have failed in other countries throughout history?  

I'm not voting for Trump. 
I'm voting for America.” 

 

Meh, ain’t nobody reading all that shit. 

[Beantown Express 2.0 6513]

34 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Meh, ain’t nobody reading all that shit. 

I couldn’t disagree with you more, respectfully.  I think people read that shit, grab on to the issue that scares them and end up voting based on shit like this.  I think the bigger question is who wrote it?  I mean, your average Facebook person didn’t take the time to write that nor are they capable.  I am guessing that trumps campaign, or a PAC supporting Trump writes stuff like this, puts it on their fake Facebook entity account and it spreads like wildfire.  It’s a pretty smart way to spread disinformation sadly and should be illegal.
 

Oh, and by not reading it you missed that Trump will get schools focused on math and science (nothing about bringing religion into schools) and get more judges and Supreme Court justices on the courts to uphold the constitution (total bullshit).  I am surprised it didn’t say he will protect women’s reproductive rights since if it’s in a Facebook post it must be true. 

[Bozo_Casanova 25879]

1 hour ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

The below is long but I copied it from someone I know who just posted this shit on Facebook.  Shit like the below is why this country is screwed.  Many of you will say this person is a racist or Fascist but I just think they are just brainwashed by the media and believe this shit.  We seem to be in the middle of a giant psychological experiment in this country and seeing what TV/Radio and social media can do to people’s brains and it’s frightening.   Below is why people continue to vote for Trump even though pretty much everything in there is false and laughable if it didn’t piss me off and frighten me at the gullibility of people in this country to believe anything they see or hear.  Also, the below will be copied and pasted a million times on Facebook and other places and it will convince people to vote for Trump that may not have.  It probably swings more votes than a TV ad at this point.
 

“Someone recently asked me why I like Trump. My answer was that I don't really like a lot of things about Trump.  

He’s not my pastor or spiritual leader. I’m voting for a platform. But this election is not about choosing the most likeable person. 

We are voting between two vastly different ideologies. We are voting for the country we want to leave our children and grandchildren. 

Trump represents that future and has proven that he can deliver. He is a patriot to the core and even served his country for 4 years without pay.

That moment when someone says, 
"I can't believe you're voting for Trump". I simply reply, “I'm NOT voting for Trump.”

I'm voting for the First Amendment and freedom of speech. I'm voting for the right to speak my opinion and not be censored. 

I’m voting for secure borders and LEGAL immigration. I am voting for election integrity to include mandatory voter ID.  (Why would anyone vote against this?)

I'm voting for the Second Amendment and my right to defend my life and my family.

I'm voting for the police to be respected once again. 

I am voting for law & order and an end to allowing protesters to trespass and burn our cities, destroying innocent small business. (Tim Walz)

I am voting for personal responsibility and the end of the revolving door where criminals are being put back on the street. (Kamala Harris)

I'm voting for the next Supreme Court Justice(s) to protect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

I’m voting for a return of our troops from foreign countries and the end to America’s involvement in foreign conflicts.

I'm voting for the Electoral College and for the Republic in which we live.

I’m voting for the continued appointment of Federal Judges who respect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

I’m voting for keeping our jobs to remain in America and not be outsourced all over the world - to China, Mexico and other foreign countries.

I am voting for doing away with all of the freebies given to all of the illegals and not looking after the needs of the American citizens and homeless veterans. 

I'm voting for the military & the veterans who fought for this country 

I'm voting to keep men out of women's sports.

I’m voting for peace progress in the Middle East.

I’m voting to fight against human/child trafficking.

I'm voting for Freedom of Religion. 

I am voting for the return of teaching math, history, and science instead of the indoctrination of our children. 

I'm not just voting for one person. 
I'm voting for the future of my Country.

I'm voting for my children and my grandchildren to ensure their freedoms

America is the greatest country in the world, hense why everyone wants to immigrate here. So why do you want to change it? 
 
Why do politicians want to enact policies that have failed in other countries throughout history?  

I'm not voting for Trump. 
I'm voting for America.” 

 

Somebody I care about posted that and tagged me in it. 
I responded “you are voting to end American Greatness. Don’t kid yourself.”

 

Edited September 3 by Bozo_Casanova

[Beantown Express 2.0 6513]

1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Somebody I care about posted that and tagged me in it. 
I responded “you are voting to end American Greatness. Don’t kid yourself.”

 

This is exactly what I’m talking about. Shit spreads like wildfire to regular people that are brainwashed.  

[mdmost 42460]

You can go through point by point and refute all of it. Why waste your time though? That person was always voting for Trump because they believe all of those things are under threat if Kamala is elected which is laughable. "I'm against human trafficking" so you're not going to vote for the person who prosecuted human traffickers? You're for the peace process in the Middle East so you're going to vote for the guy that will allow Palestinians to be completely killed and does not give one shit about a ceasefire? 

[Okie State 3707]

If they're voting for all that, Trump ain't their guy.

[Jiggy-Z 3422]

1 hour ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

The below is long but I copied it from someone I know who just posted this shit on Facebook.  Shit like the below is why this country is screwed.  Many of you will say this person is a racist or Fascist but I just think they are just brainwashed by the media and believe this shit.  We seem to be in the middle of a giant psychological experiment in this country and seeing what TV/Radio and social media can do to people’s brains and it’s frightening.   Below is why people continue to vote for Trump even though pretty much everything in there is false and laughable if it didn’t piss me off and frighten me at the gullibility of people in this country to believe anything they see or hear.  Also, the below will be copied and pasted a million times on Facebook and other places and it will convince people to vote for Trump that may not have.  It probably swings more votes than a TV ad at this point.
 

“Someone recently asked me why I like Trump. My answer was that I don't really like a lot of things about Trump.  

He’s not my pastor or spiritual leader. I’m voting for a platform. But this election is not about choosing the most likeable person. 

We are voting between two vastly different ideologies. We are voting for the country we want to leave our children and grandchildren. 

Trump represents that future and has proven that he can deliver. He is a patriot to the core and even served his country for 4 years without pay.

That moment when someone says, 
"I can't believe you're voting for Trump". I simply reply, “I'm NOT voting for Trump.”

I'm voting for the First Amendment and freedom of speech. I'm voting for the right to speak my opinion and not be censored. 

I’m voting for secure borders and LEGAL immigration. I am voting for election integrity to include mandatory voter ID.  (Why would anyone vote against this?)

I'm voting for the Second Amendment and my right to defend my life and my family.

I'm voting for the police to be respected once again. 

I am voting for law & order and an end to allowing protesters to trespass and burn our cities, destroying innocent small business. (Tim Walz)

I am voting for personal responsibility and the end of the revolving door where criminals are being put back on the street. (Kamala Harris)

I'm voting for the next Supreme Court Justice(s) to protect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

I’m voting for a return of our troops from foreign countries and the end to America’s involvement in foreign conflicts.

I'm voting for the Electoral College and for the Republic in which we live.

I’m voting for the continued appointment of Federal Judges who respect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

I’m voting for keeping our jobs to remain in America and not be outsourced all over the world - to China, Mexico and other foreign countries.

I am voting for doing away with all of the freebies given to all of the illegals and not looking after the needs of the American citizens and homeless veterans. 

I'm voting for the military & the veterans who fought for this country 

I'm voting to keep men out of women's sports.

I’m voting for peace progress in the Middle East.

I’m voting to fight against human/child trafficking.

I'm voting for Freedom of Religion. 

I am voting for the return of teaching math, history, and science instead of the indoctrination of our children. 

I'm not just voting for one person. 
I'm voting for the future of my Country.

I'm voting for my children and my grandchildren to ensure their freedoms

America is the greatest country in the world, hense why everyone wants to immigrate here. So why do you want to change it? 
 
Why do politicians want to enact policies that have failed in other countries throughout history?  

I'm not voting for Trump. 
I'm voting for America.” 

 

The 80's called and they want their chainmail back.

[TexPx 2297]

I couldn’t disagree with you more, respectfully.  I think people read that shit, grab on to the issue that scares them and end up voting based on shit like this.  I think the bigger question is who wrote it?  I mean, your average Facebook person didn’t take the time to write that nor are they capable.  I am guessing that trumps campaign, or a PAC supporting Trump writes stuff like this, puts it on their fake Facebook entity account and it spreads like wildfire.  It’s a pretty smart way to spread disinformation sadly and should be illegal.
 
Oh, and by not reading it you missed that Trump will get schools focused on math and science (nothing about bringing religion into schools) and get more judges and Supreme Court justices on the courts to uphold the constitution (total bullshit).  I am surprised it didn’t say he will protect women’s reproductive rights since if it’s in a Facebook post it must be true. 

Yeah. Had someone PM me that. Told them I wasn’t interested in some cut and paste bullshit but they could call me and we could discuss each issue if they wanted. Never called.

[DigglerontheHoof 20572]

44 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

I couldn’t disagree with you more, respectfully.  I think people read that shit, grab on to the issue that scares them and end up voting based on shit like this.  I think the bigger question is who wrote it?  I mean, your average Facebook person didn’t take the time to write that nor are they capable.  I am guessing that trumps campaign, or a PAC supporting Trump writes stuff like this, puts it on their fake Facebook entity account and it spreads like wildfire.  It’s a pretty smart way to spread disinformation sadly and should be illegal.
 

Oh, and by not reading it you missed that Trump will get schools focused on math and science (nothing about bringing religion into schools) and get more judges and Supreme Court justices on the courts to uphold the constitution (total bullshit).  I am surprised it didn’t say he will protect women’s reproductive rights since if it’s in a Facebook post it must be true. 

Members of cults do not listen to or understand reasoning and facts.  There's nothing you can do or say to this person to change their mind.  They are ignorant and brainwashed.  

[GopherRock 1762]

2 hours ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

The below is long but I copied it from someone I know who just posted this shit on Facebook.  Shit like the below is why this country is screwed.  Many of you will say this person is a racist or Fascist but I just think they are just brainwashed by the media and believe this shit.  We seem to be in the middle of a giant psychological experiment in this country and seeing what TV/Radio and social media can do to people’s brains and it’s frightening.   Below is why people continue to vote for Trump even though pretty much everything in there is false and laughable if it didn’t piss me off and frighten me at the gullibility of people in this country to believe anything they see or hear.  Also, the below will be copied and pasted a million times on Facebook and other places and it will convince people to vote for Trump that may not have.  It probably swings more votes than a TV ad at this point.
 

“Someone recently asked me why I like Trump. My answer was that I don't really like a lot of things about Trump.  

He’s not my pastor or spiritual leader. I’m voting for a platform. But this election is not about choosing the most likeable person. 

We are voting between two vastly different ideologies. We are voting for the country we want to leave our children and grandchildren. 

Trump represents that future and has proven that he can deliver. He is a patriot to the core and even served his country for 4 years without pay.

That moment when someone says, 
"I can't believe you're voting for Trump". I simply reply, “I'm NOT voting for Trump.”

I'm voting for the First Amendment and freedom of speech. I'm voting for the right to speak my opinion and not be censored. 

I’m voting for secure borders and LEGAL immigration. I am voting for election integrity to include mandatory voter ID.  (Why would anyone vote against this?)

I'm voting for the Second Amendment and my right to defend my life and my family.

I'm voting for the police to be respected once again. 

I am voting for law & order and an end to allowing protesters to trespass and burn our cities, destroying innocent small business. (Tim Walz)

I am voting for personal responsibility and the end of the revolving door where criminals are being put back on the street. (Kamala Harris)

I'm voting for the next Supreme Court Justice(s) to protect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

I’m voting for a return of our troops from foreign countries and the end to America’s involvement in foreign conflicts.

I'm voting for the Electoral College and for the Republic in which we live.

I’m voting for the continued appointment of Federal Judges who respect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

I’m voting for keeping our jobs to remain in America and not be outsourced all over the world - to China, Mexico and other foreign countries.

I am voting for doing away with all of the freebies given to all of the illegals and not looking after the needs of the American citizens and homeless veterans. 

I'm voting for the military & the veterans who fought for this country 

I'm voting to keep men out of women's sports.

I’m voting for peace progress in the Middle East.

I’m voting to fight against human/child trafficking.

I'm voting for Freedom of Religion. 

I am voting for the return of teaching math, history, and science instead of the indoctrination of our children. 

I'm not just voting for one person. 
I'm voting for the future of my Country.

I'm voting for my children and my grandchildren to ensure their freedoms

America is the greatest country in the world, hense why everyone wants to immigrate here. So why do you want to change it? 
 
Why do politicians want to enact policies that have failed in other countries throughout history?  

I'm not voting for Trump. 
I'm voting for America.” 

 

And if they actually believed a word of this, they're turning in a straight Democratic ballot.

[Js1 83389]

Oh no a copy pasta from Facebook. We are so doomed 

[Beantown Express 2.0 6513]

Just now, GopherRock said:

And if they actually believed a word of this, they're turning in a straight Democratic ballot.

I would argue the problem is they believe that Fox News and Trump and others have told them they can fix these issues and the other side is against them.  Totally untrue but if Fox News says it then it must be true.

[Fudge Nuggets 18978]

49 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

Shit spreads like wildfire to regular people that are brainwashed.  

How many of those dipshits had any chance of ever voting for Harris-Walz?  Zero.

It's a non-factor.

[GopherRock 1762]

I missed Walz's security details on Sunday, but then again it wasn't hard to do. It was the second-busiest day in the history of the Minnesota State Fair, 256,015 people went through the gates. Place was PACKED PACKED PACKED.

[Bozo_Casanova 25879]

23 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

How many of those dipshits had any chance of ever voting for Harris-Walz?  Zero.

It's a non-factor.

The person who tagged me in that fb post voted for Obama, then Hillary Clinton, then Biden. It was a combination of inflation, the border, and the moral panics about trans athletes and CRT that put him over. Curiously, despite voting for Biden and  Democrats in Texas until recently they also became convinced that Biden and Democrats stole the 2020 election.

This is a retired person who is otherwise quite smart, very accomplished, a dedicated conservationist and a good old guy, but he and his peer group are vulnerable to social media and cable news propaganda techniques, and his brain has been poisoned.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11537]

i think i've seen a 95% identical facebook post every election since facebook

[atomheartbevo 89016]

7 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

The person who tagged me in that fb post voted for Obama, then Hillary Clinton, then Biden. It was a combination of inflation, the border, and the moral panics about trans athletes and CRT that put him over. Curiously, despite voting for Biden and  Democrats in Texas until recently they also became convinced that Biden and Democrats stole the 2020 election.

This is a retired person who is otherwise quite smart, very accomplished, a dedicated conservationist and a good old guy, but he and his peer group are vulnerable to social media and cable news propaganda techniques, and his brain has been poisoned.

38 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

I would argue the problem is they believe that Fox News and Trump and others have told them they can fix these issues and the other side is against them.  Totally untrue but if Fox News says it then it must be true.

52 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Members of cults do not listen to or understand reasoning and facts.  There's nothing you can do or say to this person to change their mind.  They are ignorant and brainwashed.  

1 hour ago, TexPx said:

Yeah. Had someone PM me that. Told them I wasn’t interested in some cut and paste bullshit but they could call me and we could discuss each issue if they wanted. Never called.

 

When my relatives or friends post that kind of shit, I usually respond with some variation of  "Who would be dumb enough to believe that?  Are people really falling for this kind of stuff here in 2024?" and then just leave it at that - don't argue or debate.

Some/many will ignore what I said, but there will be some who have known me for decades, and who in the back of their minds, are going to be asking themselves why I would say that. People don't like to be known as suckers or be mocked for believing stuff.  Will it change votes?  For most, no, but it might cause some to stop spreading that shit or at least question it a little bit.

If you try to argue or debate people over that stuff, that is exactly what they are wanting - they want to validate their beliefs.  Just implying that they fell for something, and at the same time acting like it's not worth your time to debate/argue with them is going to bug the shit out of some of them.

 

 

 

[mdmost 42460]

9 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

The person who tagged me in that fb post voted for Obama, then Hillary Clinton, then Biden. It was a combination of inflation, the border, and the moral panics about trans athletes and CRT that put him over. Curiously, despite voting for Biden and  Democrats in Texas until recently they also became convinced that Biden and Democrats stole the 2020 election.

This is a retired person who is otherwise quite smart, very accomplished, a dedicated conservationist and a good old guy, but he and his peer group are vulnerable to social media and cable news propaganda techniques, and his brain has been poisoned.

Then there's nothing you can do to combat that. It's like Prong Horn with Twitter. People who willing fall for social media bullshit cannot be reasoned with. That only option is to fully remove the vessel that's feeding them a steady diet of outrage porn. Social media is now the Fox News of our day. No amount of research, facts, anecdotes, or proof is going to change the minds of people who only see what they want to see. These guys look and they see threats everywhere. They see something they can hate and fear. Hate is a huge motivator. 

[Js1 83389]

 

[SydneyCarton 47472]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

 

 

It's  kind of amazing when you look at it through the lense of, Trump is sucking all of the money into his pockets, but the other folks actually spread their wealth to try and make fixing this country easier. 

[Firemans4Horn 17142]

12 hours ago, TexEx15 said:

 

[Js1 83389]

4 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

 

It's  kind of amazing when you look at it through the lense of, Trump is sucking all of the money into his pockets, but the other folks actually spread their wealth to try and make fixing this country easier. 

Harris: I need Dems to win the House and Senate too, so we can govern! 

Trump about downballot Republicans: 

[Chopper 16626]

10 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Rep. Kaptur: First time here?

Vance: "First time here at this human city, yeah."

 

Yes, that. She was also basically calling him an opportunistic nepo baby and he lacked any clue about how to respond to the passive-aggressive attack.

[Chopper 16626]

10 hours ago, bluto said:

Far from it, it’s counting NC as safe then pushing all in on ga/pa for the win. It’s better than a punchers chance considering 20 margins in those states 

The traitors believe if they win PA, they'll likely win it all. That's why they're spending a higher % of available funds there. I don't know what's changed in PA to make them think they have a good chance there. 

[atomheartbevo 89016]

1 minute ago, Chopper said:

The traitors believe if they win PA, they'll likely win it all. That's why they're spending a higher % of available funds there. I don't know what's changed in PA to make them think they have a good chance there. 

They are grasping at straws, or maybe it's tied to Trump being shot at.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11537]

2 minutes ago, Chopper said:

The traitors believe if they win PA, they'll likely win it all. That's why they're spending a higher % of available funds there. I don't know what's changed in PA to make them think they have a good chance there. 

Silver or someone like that tweeted that the winner of PA has a 90%+ chance of winning it all.

[Aqua Buddha 14222]

2 minutes ago, Chopper said:

The traitors believe if they win PA, they'll likely win it all. That's why they're spending a higher % of available funds there. I don't know what's changed in PA to make them think they have a good chance there. 

They know they're not winning WI or MI so PA is their only hope.  

Narrator:  They're not winning PA.

[Js1 83389]

2 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

Silver or someone like that tweeted that the winner of PA has a 90%+ chance of winning it all.

I mean, yes.  Fuck Nate Silver in the goat ass though.  I think it's more like Trump HAS to win PA if he wants to win.  Harris has options. 

Harris seems to have the edge in MI/WI/NV/NE-02 - Michigan and WI seem to be her best polling states in the upper Midwest.  That is 257 - PA puts her over the top at 277.   Or any combo of winning 2 out NC/AZ/GA puts her at 284.

Trump HAS to win NC/GA/PA, because even NC/GA/AZ/NV isn't enough for him (268).  And don't even get us started on FL - if those polls start to tighten in the Sunshine State at all, he's cooked.  He has zero ability to recoup those EVs.

I will stand by this prediction from now until November 5- MI/PA/WI, AZ/NV and NC/GA will vote the same way. (not all 7, but in those groupings). 

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11537]

2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

NC/GA

i see you've given up your "identical map to 2020" prediction.

[HenryJames 65538]

[LTbear 4081]

11 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

trump gives zero fucks about the election results. his money will be spent on lawyers post election …

Am I crazy or didn't we just see budgets much closer to equal just last week?

[Js1 83389]

7 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

i see you've given up your "identical map to 2020" prediction.

That was my prediction when Biden was in the race.  

3 minutes ago, LTbear said:

Am I crazy or didn't we just see budgets much closer to equal just last week?

These are reservations for future time.  Trump campaign / PACs are buying week to week slots at much higher rates than if they booked ahead.

[LCHorn 2560]

5 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Haha, 90% of Fox viewers don’t understand cringe or simply lack the experience with shame to understand the alleged criticism.

[WhatTheBuck 28614]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

 

Trump can’t comprehend any of that. 

[TexArcher 37097]

18 minutes ago, Js1 said:

These are reservations for future time.  Trump campaign / PACs are buying week to week slots at much higher rates than if they booked ahead.

 

Brilliant businessman.

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35 minutes ago, Js1 said:

  And don't even get us started on FL - if those polls start to tighten in the Sunshine State at all, he's cooked.  He has zero ability to recoup those EVs.

Rick Scott won by like 10,000 or so votes in 2018, and now abortion is on the ballot.

10 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Trump can’t comprehend any of that. 

The down-ballot Republicans have to pay him if they want to use photos of themselves and Trump in their campaigns.

[WhatTheBuck 28614]

5 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

The down-ballot Republicans have to pay him if they want to use photos of themselves and Trump in their campaigns.

He’s a mobster. Everyone in the family has to pay tribute to the boss. He runs his operation like a criminal syndicate.

It’s also why he doesn’t know how NATO works. 

[mchookem 15539]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

 

...and this will get me to fork over some more cash 👍