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A Programming Note: 60 Minutes is scheduled to air a primetime election special on a Monday edition of the broadcast on October 7 at 8 PM. For over half a century, 60 Minutes has invited the Democratic and Republican tickets to appear on our broadcast as Americans head to the polls. This year, both the Harris and Trump campaigns agreed to sit down with 60 Minutes. Vice President Harris will speak with correspondent Bill Whitaker. After initially accepting 60 Minutes’ request for an interview with Scott Pelley, former President Trump’s campaign has decided not to participate. Pelley will address this Monday evening. Our election special will broadcast the Harris interview on Monday as planned. Our original invitation to former President Donald Trump to be interviewed on 60 Minutes stands.

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8 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I'm in the middle of the GenX age range and it wouldn't surprise me that GenXers are on the Trump side. Many are scared of the future and retirement is rapidly approaching. When you have uncertainties of your economic future, it's easy to fall prey to lies that today and the future will be financially worse under Harris.

Social media has proven that people are more likely to engage with negative than positive. Saying, "Harris will destroy America" hits emotions more than "Trump will improve the economy." Many Gen X women love their Facebook. 

There was something I saw years ago (probably on Facebook) that talked about what the generations think of each other.  For GenX, one of the younger generations considered us "racist."  That really surprised me.  Then I thought about it for a bit.  I thought about how many friends, or friends of friends, who said racist shit.  And how I didn't say shit about it. My best friend's Missouri rural cousins how whispered "salt and pepper" when they saw an interracial couple. I thought about the movies I watched - white guys being the best boxers and martial artists.  Sure, movies like 48 Hours challenged stereotypes, but still working within the stereotypes - Eddie Murphy was still a crook, or a bum, or a ghetto kid turned cop.    I figured we weren't racist, because we weren't as racist as previous generations.  But for GenX'rs who don't believe society should have changed, who didn't look at themselves...yeah, Trump's shit will still sell. 

 

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8 hours ago, G650 said:

I find the whole Gen X Trump support so bizarre as it's antithetical to everything I know and lived about my generation. So many Gen X stereotypes were real in a lot of ways, but also one has to recognize the complexity of human lived experience obviously, so I always temper this with the fact that the vast majority of people are just very average suburbanites. And it wasn't a monoculture that people make it out to be either. It's still jarring to see.

8 hours ago, Bateshorn said:

The older Gen X that came of age under Reagan have never really waivered from the GOP.  They've always been there.  Unfortunately/fortunately, as a Gen X, I can confidently say: It probably doesn't matter since their are hardly any of us to begin with.  

Gen X: nobody gives a fuck about you except for your quality taste in music. 

As a Gen Xer, I know that a shitload of us hate the Baby Boomers, and Trump manages to not only embody the worst traits of the Baby Boomers, but caters to a lot of the Boomer types that we hate.

But a lot of us grew up in suburban settings, and worshipped Reagan, so...

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2 hours ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

How can we improve education in Texas? I interview so many 22-23 year olds in Texas and they have never read a book in their life.

This is one of the few things that gets Abbott’s dick hard. 

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A Programming Note: 60 Minutes is scheduled to air a primetime election special on a Monday edition of the broadcast on October 7 at 8 PM. For over half a century, 60 Minutes has invited the Democratic and Republican tickets to appear on our broadcast as Americans head to the polls. This year, both the Harris and Trump campaigns agreed to sit down with 60 Minutes. Vice President Harris will speak with correspondent Bill Whitaker. After initially accepting 60 Minutes’ request for an interview with Scott Pelley, former President Trump’s campaign has decided not to participate. Pelley will address this Monday evening. Our election special will broadcast the Harris interview on Monday as planned. Our original invitation to former President Donald Trump to be interviewed on 60 Minutes stands.

My guess: he correctly understands sharing an episode will make him look bad and he plans to get an episode to himself later. 

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I’m being sincere when I say this—

 

turnip looks like death. He’s never looked like this before. His makeup is worse than a real housewives lady and you can tell it’s caked on. He’s always slouched over 

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1 minute ago, Pancho said:

I’m being sincere when I say this—

 

turnip looks like death. He’s never looked like this before. His makeup is worse than a real housewives lady and you can tell it’s caked on. He’s always slouched over 

If you are looking volunteers to a dig a hole at a golf course, I'm more than ready.  

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If you are looking volunteers to a dig a hole at a golf course, I'm more than ready.  

I told a friend knowing turnip, he’d want to lie in repose at one of his casinos 

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7 hours ago, Snake Diggity said:

This is me acting like a conspiracy nut, but I actually think Trump is the cause of both events.  The head of the port workers union is a Trumper.  And Netanyahu almost certainly prefers Trump to Harris, if for no other reason than he knows Trump is completely ineffectual and will do nothing to push back on his agenda.

If Trump was responsible, he fucked up.  That idiot union leader was publicly bragging about being able to cripple the US, and that's not going to play well - people won't have sympathy for him, or Trump when more people realize how close the two of them are.  I'm sure the Harris campaign will circulate those photos of him and Trump together, as well as the video of him threatening to cripple the country.

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I’m being sincere when I say this—

 

turnip looks like death. He’s never looked like this before. His makeup is worse than a real housewives lady and you can tell it’s caked on. He’s always slouched over 

 

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Just now, Underdog said:

Yeah, he sounds very low key/energy in that first video. It's no secret he gets off on the adulation of a bigger audience than must what have been there in Milwaukee. 

Next time don’t plan a rally during a Brewers playoff game 

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9 hours ago, dieucla98 said:

We just had Phil Cox talk to us at our conference - he runs Elon's America PAC. First off, he was a great speaker with great insights and for a guy that is clearly team Trump, he kept it about as neutral as you can imagine. It was refreshing.

Some interesting tidbits based on their internal polling - they feel strong about GA and AZ for Trump. Like outside margin of error. He also said PA and WI are outside the margin of error for Harris. MI and NC are the dead heats in their view. 

From COVID, PA has seen net migration from NY, bolstering their registered Dems. FL has shifted from +300k D to +1M R and a lot of that came from PA, WI - hence why they think they are both safe D states. AZ has seen CA Rs migrate. MI is a Muslim problem for the Democrats - they are pissed at the D party and they have no home with the Rs so they may stay home.

Senate goes R pretty clearly in their view. 

Apologies for the disorganized recap but it was a very interesting talk.

I don't know if I trust any of these people simply because everybody is grifting, and a lot of these folks have an audience of one or two people in mind.  Pretty easy to pump up the numbers, and when Trump loses, they know he'll claim it was rigged, and Leon will believe that.

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A friend has MAGA parents, so he had a sign made that looks like other Trump signs, but it has Vance's name in a large font, and Trump's in a smaller font, and he put it in their yard.  He said it confused them, LOL.

I would love for that to take off, and for Trump to get wind of something like that.

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I’m being sincere when I say this—

 

turnip looks like death. He’s never looked like this before. His makeup is worse than a real housewives lady and you can tell it’s caked on. He’s always slouched over 

 

 

 

 

 

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-campaign-melts-down-at-60-minutes-after-he-chickens-out-of-interview?ref=home

 

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Donald Trump’s campaign repeatedly attacked 60 Minutes’ credibility after the storied news magazine announced on Tuesday night that the former president had weaseled out of a previously scheduled sit-down interview. After CBS News said that the Trump campaign had “decided not to participate” after “initially accepting 60 Minutes’ request for an interview,” which would have been conducted by veteran correspondent Scott Pelley. “Fake News,” Trump campaign spokesman Steven Cheung scoffed to CNN in response. “60 Minutes begged for an interview, even after they were caught lying about Hunter Biden’s laptop back in 2020. There were initial discussions, but nothing was ever scheduled or locked in.”

 

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Asked by the network if there was any chance Trump might still sit for the interview, Cheung responded, “Now that they’ve lied about the interaction, they just f--cked themselves.” Apparently on a roll, Cheung kept going on X. “60 Minutes is a relic of the past, unable to keep up with the times and changing media environment, instead turning into liberal, biased propaganda,” he spat in a tweet. “Nobody ever says, ‘Oh, did you see what happened on 60 Minutes?’ Instead, people usually ask, ‘60 Minutes is still on?’” In May, the program wrapped its 50th consecutive season as TV’s No. 1 news program. Last month, its 57th season premiere drew in more than 10 million viewers, outpacing the Emmy Awards.

 

 

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Cook Political swing state project polls - WE SO BACK

AZ - Harris 50-47 (Gallego 54-41)

GA - Trump 48-47

MI- Harris 49-46 (Slotkin 50-46)

NC - Harris 49-46 (Stein 59-35)

NV - Harris 48-47 (Rosen 53-40)

PA - Harris 49-47 (Casey 52-45)

WI - Harris 48-46 (Baldwin 49-47)

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1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Cook Political swing state project polls - WE SO BACK

AZ - Harris 50-47 (Gallego 54-41)

GA - Trump 48-47

MI- Harris 49-46 (Slotkin 50-46)

NC - Harris 49-46 (Stein 59-35)

NV - Harris 48-47 (Rosen 53-40)

PA - Harris 49-47 (Casey 52-45)

WI - Harris 48-46 (Baldwin 49-47)

I heard a Democratic consultant on NPR this morning use the term "poller coaster."  I chuckled.

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So barring scandals or unplanned/unannounced events or fat fuck dropping dead, the only big ticket items left that the candidates directly control between now and November 6 are:

60 Minutes interview with Harris (10/7)
Dueling Univision townhalls (Trump 10/8, Harris 10/10)
"Second Presidential Debate" that may just be Harris debating an empty podium or a town hall (10/23) if the network goes through with it still 

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