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I just sent this to my parents. They do not like Kamala, for whatever reason. Probably becuase she has a D behind her name. I point blank told them that they need to drag their heads out of their asses.  This got sent today.
Trump plays politics with disaster funds...   Basically, if it is a Democrat asking, or a state that voted for his opponent, like in 2017, they are shit out of luck. This is not the way the President of the US is supposed to act, especially in light of a disaster.  Aren't you glad, as Texans, that Biden did not do that after the freeze in 2021?   As good Christians, we are supposed to help those in need.  I hope on November 5th, you both realize that this isn't the guy needed to lead this country, and you either hold your nose and vote Harris/Walz or stay home.   https://www.eenews.net/articles/helene-isnt-the-first-time-trump-inserted-politics-into-a-natural-disaster/
  0?ui=2&ik=a95116f583&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r5470067531605146313&th=19253d739dd19039&view=fimg&fur=ip&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ-y5zDCVPjR63Xrtay1YHhiMxvckOC-VhL005LGjNIgFXQdLtAaxeMKijkciGqlVQEc_R_eBL9r5F4Gt6Vi-o8ue3G1lLS5KD0Y_5i4TOr6KtIH0mlgqc6gBfc&disp=emb&realattid=ii_m1tofmeu0   And this isn't the first time.  See the response to NC for Hurricane Matthew in 2017.   https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/north-carolina-denied-99-percent-federal-recovery-funds-hurricane-matthew   North Carolina will receive less than 1 percent of the federal funds it requested to cover damages associated with Hurricane Matthew, which hit the East Coast in October.      

I’ve had this discussion. It goes like this: yea we know he’s not perfect but I just really worry about our country’s future with her in charge.

Nothing, I mean absolutely nothing, is worse than the liberal left’s socialist agenda. Not a single thing in the world is worse.

So, good luck.
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1 minute ago, tbone_ said:

I’ve had this discussion. It goes like this: yea we know he’s not perfect but I just really worry about our country’s future with her in charge.

Nothing, I mean absolutely nothing, is worse than the liberal left’s socialist agenda. Not a single thing in the world is worse.

"Okay, I'm not trying to argue, but I really do want to understand your position.  What do you mean by "socialism"?

"Um, well what do *you* mean?"

"I mean, can you define 'socialism' for me?"

* Blank stare, followed by rage quitting *

 

More times than I can count....  Do highly recommend...

 

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1 minute ago, tbone_ said:


I’ve had this discussion. It goes like this: yea we know he’s not perfect but I just really worry about our country’s future with her in charge.

Nothing, I mean absolutely nothing, is worse than the liberal left’s socialist agenda. Not a single thing in the world is worse.

So, good luck.

I like to point to how the democrats have like no significant “liberal left” accomplishments in the last I dunno, forever, except maybe Obamacare which was originally a Republican healthcare plan. 

Like minimum wage is still $7.50… that liberal agenda though… scary stuff. 

 

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5 minutes ago, tbone_ said:


I’ve had this discussion. It goes like this: yea we know he’s not perfect but I just really worry about our country’s future with her in charge.

Nothing, I mean absolutely nothing, is worse than the liberal left’s socialist agenda. Not a single thing in the world is worse.

So, good luck.

Anyone still saying shit like this or "I'm voting for the policies, not the person" should be forced to acknowledge that they would vote for Satan if he had an (R) next to his name. That's all that matters now. 

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The latest rage is that Harris mentioned immediate $750 payments to those who suffered loss from Hurricane Helene.  Never mind that she went on to mention "tens of thousands" of followon support for repairs, deductibles, etc. or that the administration has already committed to supplying 100% of NC's local support request.  All they hear is $750.

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I will say, I have my Harris sign up and my mom came by the house to drop off some storage bins for my move and she didn't say a word about it.  Or the ",LA" hat I had sitting on the dining table.  Which is uncommon for her - she always has a pretty stupid and uninformed opinion.

She was just in Italy/the Mediterranean for a cruise and she and my sister were discussing how European healthcare is so much better and the American system is so stupid. I bit my tongue but I really wanted to be like

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1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

The latest rage is that Harris mentioned immediate $750 payments to those who suffered loss from Hurricane Helene.  Never mind that she went on to mention "tens of thousands" of followon support for repairs, deductibles, etc. or that the administration has already committed to supplying 100% of NC's local support request.  All they hear is $750.

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I got $750 from FEMA for Beryl.

Basically everyone who applied got $750, minimum, for Beryl. 

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1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

The latest rage is that Harris mentioned immediate $750 payments to those who suffered loss from Hurricane Helene.  Never mind that she went on to mention "tens of thousands" of followon support for repairs, deductibles, etc. or that the administration has already committed to supplying 100% of NC's local support request.  All they hear is $750.

I mean, she didn't throw them paper towels like someone who's never played a sport in his bone-spurred life, so she's pretty much Mao.

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1 minute ago, Js1 said:

I will say, I have my Harris sign up and my mom came by the house to drop off some storage bins for my move and she didn't say a word about it.  Or the ",LA" hat I had sitting on the dining table.  Which is uncommon for her - she always has a pretty stupid and uninformed opinion.

She was just in Italy/the Mediterranean for a cruise and she and my sister were discussing how European healthcare is so much better and the American system is so stupid. I bit my tongue but I really wanted to be like

 

Should have said "there are plans to fix healthcare, concepts of a plan at least, or so I've heard."

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14 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Anyone still saying shit like this or "I'm voting for the policies, not the person" should be forced to acknowledge that they would vote for Satan if he had an (R) next to his name. That's all that matters now. 

It's even dumber than that.  Let's say that really is your approach.

Cool, we're picking a pilot.

Pilot 1: I have filed a flight plan to take our plane to the Bahamas for a month.  Also, I have stated numerous times that I will change my mind and fly wherever the hell I want and you can't stop me, the plane belongs to me and I alone get to decide what to do with it, I've threatened to crash the plane into a mountain repeatedly, I've tried to hijack a plane before, I've demonstrated that I actually have no idea how to fly a plane, I get easily confused and distracted by anything and everything, and I'm fucking drunk all the time.

Pilot 2: I have filed a flight plan to take us to a local lake for a nice week.  I know that's not the exotic destination some of you may want, but it's achievable based on the time and resources we have.  Also, I am a competent pilot who has repeatedly expressed that I take seriously my duties as a pilot, and have never threatened to crash the plane, tried to hijack it, and I'm not a drinker.

Saying "I'm voting for the flight plan, not the pilot" in that scenario tells me that you are a dumbass with sub-reptilian intelligence. I'm amazed that you remember to breathe.

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12 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

It's even dumber than that.  Let's say that really is your approach.

Cool, we're picking a pilot.

Pilot 1: I have filed a flight plan to take our plane to the Bahamas for a month.  Also, I have stated numerous times that I will change my mind and fly wherever the hell I want and you can't stop me, the plane belongs to me and I alone get to decide what to do with it, I've threatened to crash the plane into a mountain repeatedly, I've tried to hijack a plane before, I've demonstrated that I actually have no idea how to fly a plane, I get easily confused and distracted by anything and everything, and I'm fucking drunk all the time.

Pilot 2: I have filed a flight plan to take us to a local lake for a nice week.  I know that's not the exotic destination some of you may want, but it's achievable based on the time and resources we have.  Also, I am a competent pilot who has repeatedly expressed that I take seriously my duties as a pilot, and have never threatened to crash the plane, tried to hijack it, and I'm not a drinker.

Saying "I'm voting for the flight plan, not the pilot" in that scenario tells me that you are a dumbass with sub-reptilian intelligence. I'm amazed that you remember to breathe.

“I’d like more information on the flight plan” - Undecided Voters, likely

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5 hours ago, Pancho said:

I clearly missed this yesterday 

 

Man this sounds familiar... 

https://ehs.org.uk/fascistville-mussolinis-new-towns-and-the-persistence-of-neo-fascism/

At least the Italians used some forward-thinking architects.  I have two guesses on what Dolan will use as his inspiration...

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Also - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_for_Births

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Many, many years ago when I was 6 I flew for the first time. I told my dad I hoped the plane would get hijacked to Cuba because that meant I could fly longer and we'd go to a place I'd heard about on the news. That is the current Trump voter in your scenario. 

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48 minutes ago, tbone_ said:


I’ve had this discussion. It goes like this: yea we know he’s not perfect but I just really worry about our country’s future with her in charge.

Nothing, I mean absolutely nothing, is worse than the liberal left’s socialist agenda. Not a single thing in the world is worse.

So, good luck.

Yep.  Pissing in the wind is all that is at this point.  They've made up their minds and nothing is going to stop them from pulling the lever for him.

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45 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

"Okay, I'm not trying to argue, but I really do want to understand your position.  What do you mean by "socialism"?

"Um, well what do *you* mean?"

"I mean, can you define 'socialism' for me?"

* Blank stare, followed by rage quitting *

 

More times than I can count....  Do highly recommend...

 

When the olds mention socialism, the only proper response is "you mean like Social Security and Medicare?".  Watch their heads explode as they try to rationalize how that (especially Medicare) is not socialism.  And they fucking LOOOOOOOOOVE Medicare.

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It's long past time for an article like this to be published. But now that the "Grey Lady" has, hopefully we'll see more outlets finally covering Trump's mental and physical health.

 

Trump Promised to Release His Medical Records. He Still Won’t Do It.
If elected again, he would become the oldest president by the end of his term. Yet he is refusing to disclose even basic health information.

As a presidential candidate in 2015, Donald J. Trump declined to release his medical records, instead offering a four-paragraph letter from his personal doctor proclaiming that he would be “the healthiest person ever elected to the presidency.”

In 2020, when he was hospitalized with Covid and running for re-election, Mr. Trump’s doctors gave minimal information about his condition, which, it emerged later, was far more dire than their public descriptions let on.

In 2024, days before becoming the official Republican presidential nominee for the third time, he was grazed by a would-be assassin’s bullet, yet his campaign did not hold a briefing on his condition, release hospital records or make the emergency physicians who treated him available for interview.

Now, just over a month from an election that could make Mr. Trump, 78, the oldest person ever to serve as president (82 years, 7 months and 6 days when his term would end in January 2029), he is refusing to release even the most basic information about his health.

If he wins, Mr. Trump could enter the Oval Office with an array of potentially worrisome issues, medical experts say: cardiac risk factors, possible aftereffects from the July assassination attempt and the cognitive decline that naturally comes with age, among others.

Age became a major point of concern for voters weighing the capabilities of President Biden, and a poor debate performance that showcased him struggling to articulate sentences ultimately forced him to withdraw from the race. Suddenly facing an opponent nearly 20 years his junior, Mr. Trump told CBS News in August that he would “very gladly” release his medical records to the public, saying he had recently had a medical exam.

The New York Times requested a copy of those records. A spokeswoman for Mr. Trump eventually referred The Times to a one-page letter that his former physician, now a Republican member of Congress, wrote a week after the assassination attempt, describing the bullet wound to his ear and its progress in healing. The Times sent numerous follow-up questions. She did not reply.

Here is what is known about Mr. Trump’s health — and what is not.

Spoiler

Cardiac Health
The most detailed overview of Mr. Trump’s health to date came in January 2018, when the White House physician, Dr. Ronny Jackson, briefed reporters after Mr. Trump’s first physical as president.

His blood pressure (122/74) and an ultrasound of his heart were normal, but his cholesterol was worryingly high and his body mass index put him just 0.1 points below the threshold for medical obesity.

Even though Mr. Trump was taking a statin, a drug used to lower cholesterol levels to well below 100, his LDL cholesterol was still 143 — so high that some outside cardiologists worried about his potential for a heart attack or stroke.

Dr. Jackson said that Mr. Trump was 6-foot-3 (an inch taller than what was written on his driver’s license) and 239 pounds. A year later, his weight had risen to 243 pounds, the White House physician reported, making him officially obese.

At that point in 2019, he was taking a quadrupled dose of a statin — 40 milligrams daily, instead of 10 — and his LDL cholesterol had fallen to 122, still above the desired threshold even on that high a dose.

The next spring, the White House reported that Mr. Trump’s LDL had dropped below 100, though his weight was 244 pounds.

A 2023 booking record at the Fulton County jail in Atlanta, created when Mr. Trump was indicted on charges of election fraud in Georgia, listed his weight as 215, but he was not weighed at the jail, and his aides gave the figure on the form.

Mr. Trump’s most recent health update came in a three-paragraph letter from a new personal doctor, Bruce A. Aronwald, in November 2023, as the Republican primary campaign was heating up. It commended Mr. Trump twice for “weight reduction,” but did not say how much he weighed or give any details about medications or numerical results of any tests, only saying they were “well within the normal range,” “excellent” and “exceptional.”

When it comes to heart health, Mr. Trump has some factors working to his benefit: He has no history of smoking or drinking, and he does not have diabetes. But cardiologists agree that the health of a 78-year-old patient with a history of very high cholesterol cannot be adequately assessed using measurements taken more than four years ago.

Cognitive Health
Mr. Trump’s father had Alzheimer’s. Mr. Trump has repeatedly said that he “aced” cognitive tests — most recently in August — but has not released any documentation.

Dr. Jackson said in 2018 that Mr. Trump took the Montreal Cognitive Assessment, or MoCA, a common 10-minute screening test to look for outright dementia. It asks participants to recite five words in order and repeat them later on; to identify a camel; and to draw a clock depicting 11:10, among other things.

It gives an overview of various domains of cognition — short term memory, executive function, spatial function, orientation and language — but it does not provide a detailed measure of any of them, experts said.

“It is not uncommon to see people who have mild cognitive impairment score normally on the MoCA, but by history and observation from others, they have cognitive problems,” said Dr. Jason Karlawish, an expert on neurology and aging at the University of Pennsylvania. “And it’s only when a clinician performs more detailed testing that reveals problems such as with executive function.”

In Mr. Trump’s debate against President Biden this year, it was Mr. Biden whose performance was widely commented on, including by his allies, for exhibiting signs of aging. Dr. Jeffrey Kuhlman, who was the White House physician for Presidents Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama, said Mr. Trump’s more recent debate against Vice President Kamala Harris showed that “there’s no reasoning — he’s not taking in new concepts, he’s not forming arguments based on what she’s saying. He’s just spitting out rote memory.”

Mr. Trump has several times referred to Hillary Clinton or Mr. Biden as the “Obama administration,” and made so many verbal slips regarding cities, states and foreign leaders that his onetime presidential opponent, Ron DeSantis, started a “Trump accident tracker.” At rallies, he speaks in an increasingly disjointed manner.

Since he made clear in 2011 he was considering running for president, Mr. Trump has been prone to going off-script and getting bored with his prepared remarks. But his digressions have become more frequent, and it has become harder to decipher the meaning of them or to determine a through line of his thinking.

Dr. Kuhlman, who has a forthcoming book on presidential health care — including a chapter on the physical and mental requirements of a president — said he believed that presidents and presidential candidates should undergo an in-depth neurocognitive assessment, administered by independent specialists, repeated periodically throughout the term and released to the public.

He said a baseline test would be useful if Kamala Harris won, too, given that she would be 68 by the end of a second term.

“If there’s one area that needs to be 100 percent in a chief executive — especially chief executive of the United States — it’s cognitive function,” said Anand Kumar, an expert in geriatric psychiatry at the University of Illinois Chicago.

Until recently, President Ronald Reagan dominated discussions about the risk of cognitive decline among aging presidents. Mr. Reagan was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s six years after leaving office, but his staff has said they noticed early signs of the issues during his term.

Dr. Lawrence C. Mohr, Jr., who was White House physician under Mr. Reagan, said that arranging for neurologists to examine Mr. Reagan as part of his annual exam showed “that President Reagan did not have Alzheimer’s disease when he was in office.”

“He did occasionally forget some names, and that’s — you know, that was well documented,” he said.

After the Shooting
Millions of people have watched video of the moment when Mr. Trump grabbed his ear, dropped to the ground and emerged with blood streaming down his face.

But the campaign has provided little information about what happened next — which makes it difficult to understand any implications for the long term.

Bystander videos show that Mr. Trump walked unaided into the emergency room of Butler Memorial Hospital, as security teams lined the building in camo gear, pointing their AR-15-style rifles out toward the parking lot.

In a recent interview with The Times, hospital officials said that Mr. Trump was brought to a patient room. His campaign released a statement saying that he was “fine” and “being checked out at a local medical facility,” and that “more details will follow.”

By 9 p.m., Mr. Trump and his motorcade had left the hospital.

The most substantial update came a week later, not from the campaign or Mr. Trump’s current doctor but from Dr. Jackson — the former White House physician turned congressman from Texas. In a letter titled “Memorandum for Concerned Citizens of the United States,” Dr. Jackson wrote that he had visited Mr. Trump in New Jersey late in the evening after the shooting and that “the bullet track produced a 2 cm wide wound that extended down to the cartilaginous surface of the ear.”

The letter mentioned a CT scan of the head, but did not offer any details about the results.

A spokeswoman for Dr. Jackson told The Times, “Representative Jackson checks in regularly on President Trump and can assure you that President Trump continues to be in outstanding health.”

In a television interview, Dr. David Rottinghaus, an emergency room physician at Butler Memorial Hospital, said that while he could not share details about Mr. Trump, “anytime there is a high-velocity injury, particularly from a weapon — and a gunshot — there is potential for significant damage. So you have to be very meticulous and very diligent in the evaluation of even something that may appear to be minor.”

Mr. Trump’s campaign did not share his patient discharge paperwork or any details about specific injuries, treatment or follow-up plans. Hospital executives declined to discuss his case or say who within Mr. Trump’s orbit they had briefed on his condition. They did say that they had not spoken to Mr. Trump’s personal physician.

Dr. Kenji Inaba, a trauma surgeon with the Keck School of Medicine at the University of Southern California, said that some physical effects of a shooting to the ear — such as bleeding between the skull and the brain, or damage to the bones in the inner ear — could at first be invisible. But most of those complications would have been obvious by now, he said.

“We can infer from the fact that he is walking, talking, campaigning and doing things normally that those things didn’t occur,” Dr. Inaba said.

Mr. Trump has said publicly that he is not suffering from any post-traumatic stress or other lasting effects from the assassination attempt, the first of two he has faced in the last three months.

When he thought he saw someone moving toward the stage at a rally in Long Island earlier this month, he seemed to acknowledge a fight-or-flight response, interrupting his own comments on taxes to describe the anxiety.

“I thought this was a wiseguy coming up,” he said. “You know, I’ve got a little bit of a yip problem here, right?”

Erika Felix, a psychologist and a professor of clinical psychology at the University of California, Santa Barbara, said that such hypervigilance was extremely common in people who have recently experienced violence, alongside other symptoms such as difficulty sleeping, feelings of jumpiness or nervousness, or intrusive memories of the event.

“For a lot of people, that just dissipates naturally over time,” she said. “Now, he had a second one, so that potentially increases the risk of more long-term reactions. But we also have really good treatments. It doesn’t have to become a disabling or disqualifying condition by any means.”

A Record of Obfuscation
Historically, most presidential candidates have released medical records to assure voters they are fit for office, though there is no rule requiring them to do so. Kamala Harris, 59, the Democratic nominee, has yet to release any of her personal medical information.

Mr. Trump has a long history of fiercely guarding his personal medical information. After his longtime personal physician, Dr. Harold N. Bornstein, revealed that Mr. Trump was taking a drug to promote hair growth, the president’s aides staged “a raid” of his office to remove all of Mr. Trump’s medical records, he said.

When Mr. Trump was hospitalized with Covid in October 2020, a time when thousands of Americans were dying weekly from the disease, the Trump administration seriously downplayed the severity of his infection, repeatedly refusing to say whether he had received supplemental oxygen and other treatment before ultimately confirming that he had. People with knowledge of his health later said he had suffered from lung infiltrates, which contain substances such as fluid or bacteria, as well as low blood oxygen levels and other signs of acute illness.

Mark Meadows, Mr. Trump’s chief of staff, later wrote in his book that Mr. Trump had tested positive for Covid three days before his first presidential debate with Mr. Biden, not after it, and that his blood oxygen level had gone so dangerously low that staff members were preparing for a presidential hospital stay that could last “weeks, maybe longer.”

While presidents have the same legal right to confidentiality as any patient, secrecy around an acute medical incident is unusual. President Clinton tore a tendon from his right kneecap; President Bush fainted briefly after choking on a pretzel in the White House; President Obama was elbowed in the mouth during a basketball game, requiring 12 stitches — all three allowed their doctors to release detailed statements or speak with reporters.

Mr. Reagan, the last president or former president to survive an attempted assassination, waived his privacy and allowed the hospital to give regular public updates.

But President Biden, too, has parted with custom, deflecting or downright ignoring specific inquiries.

When he exhibited symptoms of a possible neurological condition on live television, White House officials said that his physician found no reason to evaluate him further, baffling outside experts and even former White House physicians.

As vice president, Ms. Harris, too, has undergone an annual physical with the White House Medical Unit. But the public has not seen her basic results — height, weight, blood pressure, labs, history of mammograms and other cancer screenings.

 

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13 hours ago, hookem2010 said:

I'll take it, but if she's an American hero, 80+ million of us got there first.

Yeah, but unlike Cassidy Hutchinson, most of us won't have a shitload of people who want to kill us.  She's probably got a security detail.

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6 hours ago, Pancho said:

I clearly missed this yesterday 

 

And I'm going to make all the vending machines in the cafeteria free!  There will be ice cream at lunch every day!  Finally, there will be no more homework! 

Is this guy running for 7th grade student council president?  That's what is "policies" sound like.

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7 hours ago, 'stache said:

The reason I feel that Harris is definitely going to win is that I’ve never in my lifetime seen members of the opposing party supporting a candidate at this level. I feel like the never-trumpers this cycle should at least offset or possibly even exceed the trump-only cultists.

I vaguely remember the Reagan Democrats stuff, but in looking around, it was nothing like this.  Not even close. I feel like it will be a blowout, because if you have some amazingly high-profile Republicans, including Dick Fucking Cheney who are willing to publicly endorse Kamala, there has to be plenty of moderate Republicans who don't care for Trump personally, who will stay home or vote Harris.

George H. W. Bush, Bob Dole, George W. Bush, John McCain, Mitt Romney, were all "boring" choices for the most part, that appealed to the moderates and the old-fashioned conservatives, and those voters are still around, and can't be happy that Trump is trying to blow everything up and is causing a lot of down-ballot losses.

All these Republican politicians coming out for Harris is going to give plenty of them the mental cover they need to stay home or vote Harris.

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43 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

Many, many years ago when I was 6 I flew for the first time. I told my dad I hoped the plane would get hijacked to Cuba because that meant I could fly longer and we'd go to a place I'd heard about on the news. That is the current Trump voter in your scenario. 

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2 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I just sent this to my parents. They do not like Kamala, for whatever reason. Probably becuase she has a D behind her name. I point blank told them that they need to drag their heads out of their asses.  This got sent today.

Trump plays politics with disaster funds...
 
Basically, if it is a Democrat asking, or a state that voted for his opponent, like in 2017, they are shit out of luck. This is not the way the President of the US is supposed to act, especially in light of a disaster.  Aren't you glad, as Texans, that Biden did not do that after the freeze in 2021?
 
As good Christians, we are supposed to help those in need.  I hope on November 5th, you both realize that this isn't the guy needed to lead this country, and you either hold your nose and vote Harris/Walz or stay home.
 

https://www.eenews.net/articles/helene-isnt-the-first-time-trump-inserted-politics-into-a-natural-disaster/

 
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And this isn't the first time.  See the response to NC for Hurricane Matthew in 2017.
 
 
North Carolina will receive less than 1 percent of the federal funds it requested to cover damages associated with Hurricane Matthew, which hit the East Coast in October.
 
 
 

You think they’re going to listen to the New York liberal elite? 😂

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10 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:


I think it’s likelier just an attempt to provide suburban women cover to vote Republican.

I think she is just trying to sell a book.  She does not give a shit about the election.  

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24 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Yeah, but unlike Cassidy Hutchinson, most of us won't have a shitload of people who want to kill us.  She's probably got a security detail.

Yep. I'm 59 & I can't remember too many (any?) Republicans or Democrats going on national TV & stating that their party's candidate is so horrific as to make them vote for the opposition's candidate. In today's political climate, that takes some serious cojones grandes. 

And I have zero problem with her making some money with a book. She and everyone else who was inside the Capitol that day - whatever their party - went through some shit and deserves to try to turn it into some kind of a positive.

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3 minutes ago, Tuco said:

I think she is just trying to sell a book.  She does not give a shit about the election.  

Correct. Everything is about money and personal glory for anyone involved with Trump. Giving one shit about the American people has never even been on their radar. 

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30 minutes ago, Felix said:

And I'm going to make all the vending machines in the cafeteria free!  There will be ice cream at lunch every day!  Finally, there will be no more homework! 

Is this guy running for 7th grade student council president?  That's what is "policies" sound like.

 

Look man, I ran on the platform that the Otis spunkmeyer cookies in the cafeteria would always be hot and fresh on my watch and I won 8th grade class president.

So…yeah, those can be policies 

 

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