2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[tx 3 putt 78673]

1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

just caught up with the last few pages and i'm reading that the gop is getting tired of trump, and after he loses next month, he'll be out of the picture by 2028.

lolol.

have y'all learned nothing? if he's drawing oxygen, he will run, and likely win the nomination. must we do this every 4 years?

 

the GoP is getting tired of trump keeping all the money. if he was spreading around some more cheese, they’d be very damn good with trump 

pigs get fed, hogs get slaughtered 

[TexEx15 17937]

Well said.

 

[Brisketexan 106877]

7 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Get him, Pete. 

 

Actually, Pete is not ENTIRELY right....someone WAS "shutting down the airspace" in certain areas and preventing private helicopters from flying rescue missions.  https://thehill.com/homenews/4913942-pilot-helene-north-carolina-rescue-missions-arrest-threat/

So, a power-mad local official with a badge.....NOT the FAA, NOT FEMA.  Odds that dude votes MAGA?  Close to 100%.  Elmo continues to get everything -- every. single. thing. -- wrong.

[C-Man 27778]

7 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Weird fantasy. How about we are just indifferent and happy to have him out of our political lives, and the fantasy is Sydney Sweeney?

 

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

There is the very real chance Trump will not be healthy enough to deal with a campaign in 2028.  He might also be facing legal consequences, although as we all know those odds are low.

I have a real concern that a Harris victory would break down the "female POTUS" barrier and we would get . . . Ivanka.

[wood 11763]

9 hours ago, 'stache said:

Yup. Every firefighter I’ve known is well within the trump wheelhouse. I’ve heard one say he doesn’t like socialism, etc, someone mentioned that they are part of a union and republicans are against them, response was “it’s not a union it’s just for firefighters.” Didn’t hear any follow up but my guess is that they justify the disconnect because their counterpart is the evil government and not benevolent private industry.

I was a 28 year career firefighter and my experience has been quite different. Yes, there are plenty who vote Republican and some who are hard core conservative assholes. But you get that in any line of work and there are loads of Democrats as well, and Green Party, and you name it. Even the conservatives, with rare exceptions, proudly pay their dues and back the union. Overwhelmingly in my experience, firefighters here and even moreso elsewhere are extremely pro-union, resulting in almost everyone, like me, continuing to pay union dues well past retirement age, to help the union do what unions do.

There are 300,000+ firefighters in the IAFF, and politically, they look pretty much  like the general population. I've met plenty of firefighters who are asshole conservatives. That doesn't mean most firefighters are assholes or Republicans. And I've met many who are way to the left. That doesn't make 'em Commies. The vast majority are in the middle, just as I believe is the case for the general popultaion. And, again, the firefighters don't decide who the union endorses or does not endorse. The national leadership does.

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Edited October 4 by wood

[henrygandorf 29225]

7 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

the GoP is getting tired of trump keeping all the money. 

well, it's not up to them. if it was, mcconnell etc would've run him out on a rail the minute his losing starting affecting them, which was years ago.

it's up to the voters who live in a fantasy world. good luck convincing them of any type of abstract thought.

also, whomever is saying "he'll just play kingmaker and tell people who to vote for" it doesn't work like that either. the voters don't ever listen to him and all his picks get wiped out. it has to be him.

y'all seriously need to stop thinking about this like a political party - it's a team sport and the opponent is aggy. does that cheat sheet help at all?

[wood 11763]

36 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Because the new President is a Trumper. I posted and article on it earlier.

Yeah then fuck that POS.

[dcbc 14644]

29 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Typically with the line that I wouldn’t vote for him if I had AIDS and he had the cure. 

I'm pretty sure that was one of his campaign promises this cycle, except he called it the AIDS.

[Foosters 18269]

To continue the firefighting tangent, this article from last December gave me a good chuckle. Essentially, all these conservative firefighters and cops moved to Idaho to get away from Commiefornia, only to find that they (and their bank accounts stuffed with generous goverment pension money) are unwelcome.

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That made him, and the hundreds of other retired California cops and firefighters flooding into the town in recent years, seem practically socialist to the old guard who find it hard to trust new arrivals with pockets full of government cash.

“It’s ludicrous” that they call themselves Republicans, Mayor Jason Pierce said during an interview on election day in early December. “You find a lot of Californians who move here don’t realize how much [liberal] baggage they’re bringing with them.”

And that’s the irony: Whether locals like it or not, California public pension money is the lifeblood of the economy in this small-government, Republican boomtown.

It’s a phenomenon happening across the West, as tens of thousands of California’s career civil servants — people who devoted their working lives to making state and local government function — decide California is no longer their home.

 

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As mayor, Pierce said he is routinely contacted by more recently arrived Californians who see garbage on the streets and, instead of picking it up themselves, ask him why the town doesn’t hire more maintenance workers. “So, you want your taxes to go up,” he said he asks them. “You want more government?”

He finds it particularly hard to understand how retired police and firefighters, who often collect more from their California pensions than their local counterparts earn in salary, can consider themselves conservatives.

“They want to give the same kind of benefits to officers and state employees here,” Pierce said. “And, it’s like, wait a minute, you literally created a huge deficit in California and now you want to do the same thing here?”

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He’s been a Republican for 41 years, he said, and left California in part because of the arrogance and entitlement he felt from Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom and his predecessor, Jerry Brown, who ran the state with no meaningful opposition and almost no regard for the feelings of Californians like him.

When he arrived in Idaho, he felt as though he was finally able to “exhale,” he said, to “relax and enjoy life.”

So it was a shock when the mayor’s supporters attacked him from the other flank, accusing him of being a RINO (Republican in name only) and a Democratic “plant.”

“I came here looking for anything that’s not the liberal, socialistic view of the government in California,” Pike said.

Asked if he thought it was hypocritical to complain about socialism in a state that provides him a $123,000-a-year pension, Pike said he figured anybody who raised such questions was just jealous.

“This is a free country, you have the option to go anywhere you want,” Pike said. “I’m not ashamed to say that I brought my CalPERS pension to Idaho.”

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-12-21/california-cops-firefighters-flee-california-take-pensions-to-eagle-idaho

[jimmyjazz 47134]

11 minutes ago, wood said:

I was a 28 year career firefighter and my experience has been quite different. 

Yeah, I know exactly one firefighter, a Captain in Round Rock, and he's a long long way from a Trumper.  I'm sure there are plenty, though.

[wood 11763]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Because in 2024 America, particularly for the men who dominate many blue collar ranks, it has become more important to hate the "other," defined as "any and all groups smaller and weaker than yours," than it is to support someone who might actually make things better for everyone.

It's as if they were shopping for a product, and they were shown one that has all the features they SHOULD want, but they ask "but....will it be cruel to/punish people weaker than me?"  If the answer is "no," they pass on the purchase.  They'd rather buy an unreliable POS that offers them nothing, but features "NOW FEATURING 'FUCK OVER THE WEAK'!"  They can't buy those fast enough, they're flying off the shelves.

I agree with much of what you're saying, but firefighters don't choose who to endorse. We don;t even get to choose our leadership on the national level. This is what infuriates me so much about their decision to not endorse - it makes US (the membership) look bad, and we didn't even have a say in it.

[Radical Larry 28819]

Musk is terrified that sad, orange, sack of shit is going to lose the election. 

[locodos 5591]

1 hour ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Mailing in my Dade ballot today.  LFG

In a week or so check your ballot status.

Wife and I filled out our mail in ballots and dropped them off at the SOE.  Feels good.  I've now turned my attention to trying to flip a few Trumpkins I know.  I think one will vote Harris, He's starting to see the light.  The best I can get out of the other one is not to vote.  He's a bigtime BOTHSIDES BRO!

Edited October 4 by locodos

[tx 3 putt 78673]

43 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Because the new President is a Trumper. I posted and article on it earlier.

link ?

[SydneyCarton 49477]

7 minutes ago, Foosters said:

To continue the firefighting tangent, this article from last December gave me a good chuckle. Essentially, all these conservative firefighters and cops moved to Idaho to get away from Commiefornia, only to find that they (and their bank accounts stuffed with generous goverment pension money) are unwelcome.

 

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-12-21/california-cops-firefighters-flee-california-take-pensions-to-eagle-idaho

I laughed at this fucking article way more then I should have…

[wood 11763]

4 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

 

 

Gettin' a little dusty in here ...

[Gatorubet 30711]

7 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I laughed at this fucking article way more then I should have…

I laughed because it was paywalled. 

[Foosters 18269]

4 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

I laughed because it was paywalled. 

which is why I took the time to select the best parts and include them in the body of my post. You're welcome.

[Gatorubet 30711]

4 minutes ago, Foosters said:

which is why I took the time to select the best parts and include them in the body of my post. You're welcome.

Oh fine. Now I have to read the actual posts? And on a Friday?

[Foosters 18269]

Just now, Gatorubet said:

Oh fine. Now I have to read the actual posts? And on a Friday?

I have my secretary read me all the posts and transcribe my responses

[henrygandorf 29225]

29 minutes ago, Radical Larry said:

Musk is terrified that sad, orange, sack of shit is going to lose the election. 

musk thought once he got more personally involved, it would make all the difference. i'm enjoying that it's not going well for him.

[chainsaw 10283]

Houston firefighters were vocally pro-Buzbee

[bolverk 30320]

4 minutes ago, Foosters said:

I have my secretary read me all the posts and transcribe my responses

Does she read our posts in different voices?

[Gatorubet 30711]

5 minutes ago, Foosters said:

I have my secretary read me all the posts and transcribe my responses

I, for one, am not going to ‘fee shame’ your billable hours for ”case research”

I mean, every so often somebody posts a link to a case. Amirite???

[quigley 1565]

1 hour ago, C-Man said:

For all his faults, Trump has always had no problems getting plenty of pussy.

When you're not worried about sexual assault, things get a lot easier.

[Brisketexan 106877]

59 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

well, it's not up to them. if it was, mcconnell etc would've run him out on a rail the minute his losing starting affecting them, which was years ago.

it's up to the voters who live in a fantasy world. good luck convincing them of any type of abstract thought.

also, whomever is saying "he'll just play kingmaker and tell people who to vote for" it doesn't work like that either. the voters don't ever listen to him and all his picks get wiped out. it has to be him.

y'all seriously need to stop thinking about this like a political party - it's a team sport and the opponent is aggy. does that cheat sheet help at all?

Emphasized so maybe some of y'all will eventually get it.

Stop thinking of the GQP as a political party, and that it will behave as political parties do.  It stopped being a political party long ago.  It's as if your favorite college football team morphed into a military unit, arming itself with rifles, mortars, and tanks, and started simply murdering its opponents instead of playing a football game against them.  Y'all are the idiots typing "so, I wonder what their game plan will be for next season with new players.  Maybe we'll start passing the ball more."  No, you fucksticks, they'll keep doing what they've been doing, and what they've turned into: they will shoot and murder the other team.  The rules of football are entirely irrelevant to the picture.

The rules of political parties are entirely irrelevant to the GQP.  It is a terrorist death cult, and the sooner you realize that is all that it is, that is the ONLY thing it is, and it cannot ever go back to being anything less than that, then the sooner you'll be fully equipped to figure out how we fight back against it (hint: using intelligence sources against it and being prepared to take decisive lethal action when it next launches an attack on the Republic need to be part of your plan).

[HenryJames 67326]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Actually, Pete is not ENTIRELY right....someone WAS "shutting down the airspace" in certain areas and preventing private helicopters from flying rescue missions.  https://thehill.com/homenews/4913942-pilot-helene-north-carolina-rescue-missions-arrest-threat/

So, a power-mad local official with a badge.....NOT the FAA, NOT FEMA.  Odds that dude votes MAGA?  Close to 100%.  Elmo continues to get everything -- every. single. thing. -- wrong.

Some probably need to be shut down.

[Mo Horn 8937]

Go the fuck away

[4th&Five 41987]

 

[Brisketexan 106877]

Just now, Mo Horn said:

Go the fuck away

All he does is lie.  Truly, I suspect that he tells more lies in a day than truths.

[Mo Horn 8937]

Just now, Brisketexan said:

All he does is lie.  Truly, I suspect that he tells more lies in a day than truths.

And everyone is just immune to it. Ho hum, just another normal day. 

['stache 22131]

4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

All he does is lie.  Truly, I suspect that he tells more lies in a day than truths.

Suspect? I bet there are days, weeks, or months where he doesn't tell a single truth. He probably says he needs to pee when he really needs to shit and that he's hungry for McDonalds when his fat ass is already full. 

Edited October 4 by 'stache

[texastough 1142]

He won't run in '28 because he'll be in prison

[ChiTownDoc 21345]

2 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

just caught up with the last few pages and i'm reading that the gop is getting tired of trump, and after he loses next month, he'll be out of the picture by 2028.

lolol.

have y'all learned nothing? if he's drawing oxygen, he will run, and likely win the nomination. must we do this every 4 years?

As others said, I hope he’s the nominee in 2028 whether he wins or loses this year.  2032?  Even better.  

[Gatorubet 30711]

5 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

As others said, I hope he’s the nominee in 2028 whether he wins or loses this year.  2032?  Even better.  

He will shit post via morse code on his wheelchair bell

 

 

[bolverk 30320]

16 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

All he does is lie.  Truly, I suspect that he tells more lies in a day than truths.

21 whoppers told each day to the public while in office. I can't imagine the shit he comes up with in private.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-fact-checker-tracked-trump-claims/2021/01/23/ad04b69a-5c1d-11eb-a976-bad6431e03e2_story.html

 

[Pato del Muerto 53461]

11 minutes ago, texastough said:

He won't run in '28 because he'll be in prison

Not a disqualifier for him or his chances

[Brisketexan 106877]

2 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Not a disqualifier for him or his chances

This.  A Trump in prison gets 10% or more of the vote, even as a write-in candidate.

Oh....and if that is indeed the case, do you think that maybe, just maybe, Brisket's "Make America Even Greater, for Real This Time" PAC won't organize the shit out of drives to get him on the ballot as a write-in/third party candidate in all 50 states (in the event that he's not the GQP nominee, which has just as likely a chance of happening; for real, this GQP would absolutely nominate an imprisoned Trump for POTUS)?  Because if you think we won't do that (after paying Brisket, through multiple shell corporations behind the PAC, an 8-figure "consulting fee," of course)....you haven't been paying attention.

[henrygandorf 29225]

26 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

Go the fuck away

sounds good, mr president.

now governor walz, why did you say that you spent the summer of 1988 in china, when it was actually september, which is technically not a summer month?

[RomaVicta 30562]

2 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

I was in undergrad 88 to 92, and the state paid a pretty high percentage of the costs of education outside of housing and food. I think the most I ever paid was a semester I took 17 hours and including fees for a lab it was 1300 or so 

When I was in medical school the state was subsidizing quite a bit. Our tuition was under 6k per year. Guys 5 years ahead of me paid 1K per year. 
 

Somewhere we lost our way

In the '70s, it was a big deal if your tuition bill topped $100. If you had a good summer job, you could pay for the year. If you worked oil rigs or something like that, you could live like a god. I returned to graduate in the mid 80s and it was still less than maybe $400? 

My beloved had daughters graduating high school in the first few years of this century. I was dumbfounded and furious when I heard about what had happened to college costs. Guaranteed loans for banks who face no risk. No reason other than decency and an understanding of public university education to keep the colleges from raising fees in tacit collusion.

I'm glad to be a Longhorn, but I can't exactly say that I love the University. Money grubbing cunts.

Edited October 4 by RomaVicta

[Js1 87175]

 

[Slacks 7049]

2 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

I was in undergrad 88 to 92, and the state paid a pretty high percentage of the costs of education outside of housing and food. I think the most I ever paid was a semester I took 17 hours and including fees for a lab it was 1300 or so 

When I was in medical school the state was subsidizing quite a bit. Our tuition was under 6k per year. Guys 5 years ahead of me paid 1K per year. 
 

Somewhere we lost our way

Yep. My first semester tuition in 1989 was ~$400 for 13 hours. Jester was ~$1300.

[dcbc 14644]

1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

I, for one, am not going to ‘fee shame’ your billable hours for ”case research”

I mean, every so often somebody posts a link to a case. Amirite???

Here you go.  

Hawkins v. McGee, 84 N.H. 114, 146 (N.H. 1929).

[Brisketexan 106877]

1 minute ago, dcbc said:

Here you go.  

Hawkins v. McGee, 84 N.H. 114, 146 (N.H. 1929).

[WBT 20969]

5 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

 

 

[Pato del Muerto 53461]

4 minutes ago, Slacks said:

Yep. My first semester tuition in 1989 was ~$400 for 13 hours. Jester was ~$1300.

I showed up in 97 and it was about $100 per hour. And I was late to apply for housing so no dorms available- efficiency apt up on 28th was like $650 a month. 

[Gil Bang 26231]

1 hour ago, Foosters said:

To continue the firefighting tangent, this article from last December gave me a good chuckle. Essentially, all these conservative firefighters and cops moved to Idaho to get away from Commiefornia, only to find that they (and their bank accounts stuffed with generous goverment pension money) are unwelcome.

 

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-12-21/california-cops-firefighters-flee-california-take-pensions-to-eagle-idaho

I remember one of those CA cops that relocated to Idaho.   Mark fucking Furman. 

[Hiphopopotamos 21189]

 

[Js1 87175]

1 minute ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

 

Projection

Every accusation, etc. 

[TexasHooch 5196]

2 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

I laughed because it was paywalled. 

Postlight reader is your friend.