2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[Hiphopopotamos 20868]

16 minutes ago, Js1 said:

ohhh that’s gonna get the fat man pissed off 

I look forward to the NYTs telling us why Kamala sitting down for a long-form interview with FoxNews 'doesn't count'.

[Js1 85225]

1 minute ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

I look forward to the NYTs telling us why Kamala sitting down for a long-form interview with FoxNews 'doesn't count'.

Doesn’t count because it’s Bret Baeir! she should go on RT for it to count 

[HalfSack Horn 149]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Need to get one of these shirts for the hippy in my life,  they come in pink as well,

https://viralstyle.com/c/P9MV2r#pid=1&cid=230

They have these at the Travis County Dems office over near North Loop

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

20 minutes ago, Js1 said:

ohhh that’s gonna get the fat man pissed off 

??

i'm not angry at all.

[Woland 730]

Doesn’t count because it’s Bret Baeir! she should go on RT for it to count 

MAGA: “Fox has been moving to the left for some time now. I no longer trust Fox and have been getting my news from other sources.”

[Js1 85225]

2 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

??

i'm not angry at all.

Sorry, the fat orange man 

[Tuco 5076]

I just can’t square the district polling and large sample polls of Latino voters, Asian voters, young voters and black voters with the state polls and tiny sub-samples in those polls. They don’t add up. 
The district polling was a huge warning sign in 2016, as was the GOP’s performance in special elections leading up to 2016. It’s been the exact opposite this year. There will have been signs if she wins easily.
Debbie Dingell at this time in 2016 was screaming that Hillary was going to lose Michigan. A lot of people just hand waved it away as typical pre-election BS.  Some of these state politicians know their state very well and will sound the alarms. I haven’t seen much of that 

For me we have two major data points for Trump presidential elections: 2016 and 2020. In those events, we have three main variables: Trump, Dem Candidate, and the public.

I think 2024 is the worst version of Trump. Not only is he personally deteriorated, his campaign is garbage. In the past two elections, the GOP attachment brought some competent logistics. That seems lacking today. He had women advising him. Ivanka is sitting this one out. Kelly Anne Conway is a minor character in this chapter. And I think that has made a difference in how he talks about women. Just techbro incel nonsense now.

I think the Harris campaign is the best version of a Dem campaign I have seen. It’s not just Harris, although she is good. KamalaHQ, the dynamic DNC, etc.

My big concern is America. If Trump wins, it will demonstrate a real rapid decline over the last 8 years.

[Pancho 44656]

So…armed militia were threatening to kill FEMA in Nawf Carolina? Not sure if Harris should mention that this is a direct result of turnip’s rhetoric. 

[Js1 85225]

2 minutes ago, Pancho said:

So…armed militia were threatening to kill FEMA in Nawf Carolina? Not sure if Harris should mention that this is a direct result of turnip’s rhetoric. 

Biden should.  This is his wheelhouse. 

Put that man on TV to tell the public that the death threats against FEMA need to stop and what is causing it. 

Edited October 14 by Js1

[Pancho 44656]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

Biden should.  This is his wheelhouse. 

Put that man on TV to tell the public that the death threats against FEMA need to stop and what is causing it. 

AND GIVE ME THE CUSSING BIDEN!

 

[atomheartbevo 89593]

40 minutes ago, Tuco said:

Right now, I am thinking there is a 30% chance Trump wins a close one, 30% chance Harris wins a close one, and 40% chance Harris wins in a blowout.

[atomheartbevo 89593]

41 minutes ago, Tuco said:

I have decided to follow this election closely, despite knowing how crushed I will be if Trump wins. I figure I was already crushed a few months ago after watching the Biden debate. Worst case scenario is I got an extra 4 months of hope before 4 years of distraction and despair. Best case scenario is I get to watch America turn the page on this stupid, ugly chapter. This is Midway, and I can’t stop watching now.

UT is playing Florida, Kentucky, Arkansas, and aggy in November, so we’ve got that going for us.

[BrickHorn 18208]

2 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

I fucking hate this guy so much.

He’s turned “No I’m not, you are!” into a successful political slogan that resonates with similarly dim-witted morons. 

[safe sex 11694]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Need to get one of these shirts for the hippy in my life,  they come in pink as well,

https://viralstyle.com/c/P9MV2r#pid=1&cid=230

I picked one up at the TCDP location on North Loop. Great shirt!

[wildcat09 29324]

9 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Biden should.  This is his wheelhouse. 

Put that man on TV to tell the public that the death threats against FEMA need to stop and what is causing it. 

Biden needs to enforce some fucking repercussions for that behavior though. He keeps going out there and saying "this has got to stop" and yeah, that's morally correct, but he's not some helpless onlooker he's the fucking President. 

[Js1 85225]

1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

Biden needs to enforce some fucking repercussions for that behavior though

Like what? I mean, realistically, what can he do? Serious question.

Since FEMA is a federal agency and they are government employees, can the DOJ go after anyone making death threats against them? Because local law enforcement in Western NC ain't gonna do shit, they're all Trumpy as fuck. 

[Hiphopopotamos 20868]

2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Like what? I mean, realistically, what can he do? Serious question.

Since FEMA is a federal agency and they are government employees, can the DOJ go after anyone making death threats against them? Because local law enforcement in Western NC ain't gonna do shit, they're all Trumpy as fuck. 

 

[atomheartbevo 89593]

 

Sore Loser With three weeks to go until Election Day, Donald J. Trump stands a reasonable chance of becoming the 47th President of the United States. Despite assassination attempts, impeachments, special counsels, felony convictions and hundreds of millions in civil penalties, most polls show his race against V.P. Kamala Harris is too close to call.

The first time he ran for president in 2016, he was coming off the last season of Celebrity Apprentice. I had a front row seat as a finalist on that final season and marveled at his audacity with his checkered past to seek the highest office in the land. Then, in the blink of an eye, he went from novice to formidable challenger to victorious over Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

As President he was a loyal friend, who allowed regular access. My resulting coverage gave him the benefit of most doubts. His presidency was underrated. Throughout his first big scandal in office, the 2017-2019 Mueller Investigation into allegations Trump conspired with Russia to undermine our political process, I stuck with him, deeply suspicious of constant efforts to undermine his Administration.
 

The last time President Trump and I spoke was Friday, November 13, 2020, when he called me at home. It was ten days after his narrow lost to Joe Biden. He was calling to get my take on the controversies surrounding the election, which appeared to have been decided by a handful of votes in several states. I asked him what he would do if the vote count remained against him. As I reported on Fox News that same morning, Friday the 13th, he told me he was a reasonable man and would do the right thing if that time came.

It never did. Instead, President Trump embarked on an increasingly menacing campaign to discredit the 2020 election. With a motley supporting cast of increasingly fringe characters, he careened from one bizarre theory to the next, offering no meaningful proof, that he had been robbed by the Democrats.

None exists. If you are a Republican, Donald Trump has made a liar of you. He has coaxed and intimidated tens of millions into pretending he was reelected in 2020, and that the election was stolen.

In furtherance of that Big Lie, on January 6, 2021, Trump incited and unleashed the violent attack on the center of democracy, the U.S. Capitol for which he was Impeached. As his followers trashed that sacred space, he was on the phone urging Vice President Mike Pence essentially to overturn the will of the American people. Pence refused to put Trump ahead of the Constitution. Trump stabbed the Constitution in the back. Maybe you are inclined to vote for the former president anyway, because he says he will cut your taxes or build the border wall or pull out of NATO or put tariffs on China. However, you justify voting for Trump, adopting his big lie about the stolen election makes you a liar.

Better to admit he lost last time but that you don’t care because a Harris presidency would be a disaster, or you admire his defiance in the face of an assassin’s bullet. Just don’t pretend that he got robbed in 2020. That is a lie. Former President Trump is a sore loser who cannot be trusted to honor the Constitution. That is why I am voting for Kamala Harris to be our 47th President.

[C-Man 27172]

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

No.

 

To everything here.

 

That account is doing its job.

Yes, trolling Trump and his idiot followers is KamalaHQ's only mission. And it is doing that with aplomb.

[Red Five 40777]

Hey. Remember the other day when Trump said it should be illegal for Obama to criticize him? And the resulting media firestorm? What a day that was.

[wood 11225]

3 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Holy shit, I just saw a Kamala Harris billboard in Belton

Saw a little local news teaser about the DNC Chair having a trip to Texas planned in the next few days, asking whther Texas might actually be in play. I'd say at least for Allred it is.

[RDCanecutter 26376]

39 minutes ago, Pancho said:

So…armed militia were threatening to kill FEMA in Nawf Carolina? Not sure if Harris should mention that this is a direct result of turnip’s rhetoric. 

Mountain North Carolina Crazy predates Trump by about 300 years. There have always been a few roads up into the holler where, yeah, you can drive your car, but don't stop and get out.

Then more recently you've had new residents occasionally bringing their Florida Man ways and such.

Trump probably pushed up the meter by 10%. Add it to the reasons to slap the cuffs on him.

[Js1 85225]

4 minutes ago, wood said:

Saw a little local news teaser about the DNC Chair having a trip to Texas planned in the next few days, asking whther Texas might actually be in play. I'd say at least for Allred it is.

It’s for Allred 

[wood 11225]

3 hours ago, TexEx15 said:

 

You smell that? That's the smell of desperation.

[wood 11225]

3 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

She should take the cognitive test, along with an IQ test, and release both results.

Yeah and she should tell Trump "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" (/s)

Edited October 14 by wood

[LCHorn 2611]

46 minutes ago, Tuco said:

I think 2024 is the worst version of Trump. Not only is he personally deteriorated, his campaign is garbage. In the past two elections, the GOP attachment brought some competent logistics. That seems lacking today. He had women advising him. Ivanka is sitting this one out. Kelly Anne Conway is a minor character in this chapter. And I think that has made a difference in how he talks about women. Just techbro incel nonsense now.

I think the Harris campaign is the best version of a Dem campaign I have seen. It’s not just Harris, although she is good. KamalaHQ, the dynamic DNC, etc.

This is where I land, too.  I find it hard to be pessimistic about Harris’ chances when the Trump campaign has done absolutely nothing to expand his support.  
 

I am hopeful, however, that following a Harris win there is a reckoning among the Dem party elites on how to bring back in white working class males.  They’ve basically surrendered them to the GOP and they should be allies, particularly so on the Dem economic platform.  It’s a national problem that most likely needs a local solution (i.e,, Kamala trying to create favorable conditions for union membership won’t get it done-Dems need to keep at building the party in red states at the city and county level).  

[chainsaw 9841]

2 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

a reckoning among the Dem party elites on how to bring back in white working class males.

It's infuriating because Joe Biden has easily been the best president of their lifetimes on Labor issues.

[HenryJames 65969]

43 minutes ago, safe sex said:

I picked one up at the TCDP location on North Loop. Great shirt!

Pics or it didn't happen.

[LCHorn 2611]

1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

It's infuriating because Joe Biden has easily been the best president of their lifetimes on Labor issues.

That doesn’t make me mad, rather, it’s a reminder that tribal cohesiveness is a dominant concern at the moment (maybe because the economy IS doing good).  
 

I want to punch myself because I’m sick of reading this particular phrase (or hearing it on podcasts), but it’s another “you have to meet the voters where they are.”

[Homercles 10205]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

ohhh that’s gonna get the fat man pissed off 

Prepare for ‘creative’ editing

[Chuckie Finster 22688]

FAFO

 

 

[SydneyCarton 47996]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

ohhh that’s gonna get the fat man pissed off 

Not as much as it's going to piss of the NYT. 

1 hour ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

I look forward to the NYTs telling us why Kamala sitting down for a long-form interview with FoxNews 'doesn't count'.

Goddamnit.

Edited October 14 by SydneyCarton
Edit: I fucking pulled a 3 Putt.

[wood 11225]

2 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

3 weeks to go. Where is everyone's head with how this will resolve.

I still think Harris is going to eke out a small EC win by early Wed morning. I'm guessing she wins with PA and NV. 

IMHO Kamala wins the EC fairly bigly. But we will see.

[Chad Fuck 17631]

6 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

FAFO

 

 

These folks are as bad as the one issue abortion folks on the right.   They're chopping their nose off to spite their face.  

It's like no one reminded them of the COMPLETE MUSLIM BAN!!!! Warble garble!!!!

 

[dieucla98 2942]

5 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

FAFO

 

 

What does that "peace" look like? If they truly think a Trump "peace" will result in better conditions for Palestinians than what they had before this conflict broke out, then I don't know what to say - it's just baffling.

Just like Trump "peace" in Ukraine just means there is no more Ukraine. I imagine that's not far off from his vision of peace in the ME.

[Mdhorn 5945]

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

So…armed militia were threatening to kill FEMA in Nawf Carolina? Not sure if Harris should mention that this is a direct result of turnip’s rhetoric. 

Both sides, man-- says some undecided voter in BFE. 

[bolverk 29635]

2 hours ago, C-Man said:

John Oliver's main story about Trump trying to steal another election was pretty sobering last night, especially the parts about Georgia, which seems like a lost cause at this point.

Can somebody please talk me off the ledge?

Yeah, that was a disconcerting segment, and Georgia's election may be completely fucked as a result of the shit they're trying to pull.

[Surly Bevo 24900]

It’s gonna take some executions to stop this kind of shit.

[Mdhorn 5945]

20 minutes ago, dieucla98 said:

What does that "peace" look like? If they truly think a Trump "peace" will result in better conditions for Palestinians than what they had before this conflict broke out, then I don't know what to say - it's just baffling.

Just like Trump "peace" in Ukraine just means there is no more Ukraine. I imagine that's not far off from his vision of peace in the ME.

The Trump admin wanted to bomb Iran.  And imagine what that would do for public sentiment for muslims in America.  There's their peace in the Middle East.  Oh I know, let's try it out for reals and see how peaceful a Trump resolution is.  

Edited October 14 by Mdhorn

[Fudge Nuggets 19169]

2 hours ago, Pancho said:

No.

 

To everything here.

 

That account is doing its job.

I totally agree and have been thinking she's given up a ton of momentum since the debate.  For years we have all said the best way to handle a bully is to walk right up to him and punch him in the nose.  From the moment Biden stepped out of the race through the debate that's exactly what the Harris campaign did.  They attacked, attacked, attacked and dragged his stupid fat ass all over the place. 

The last two weeks since she's gone on this touchy-feely podcast tour it feels like a Tom Herman 4th quarter with the lead.  I didn't like the way those turned out.

[David Dennison 18826]

33 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

It's infuriating because Joe Biden has easily been the best president of their lifetimes on Labor issues.

He's bearing the brunt of the Democratic Party's embrace of neoliberalism, Bill Clinton's triangulation, and Barack Obama's failure to hold Wall Street accountable for the Great Recession.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13493]

20 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

These folks are as bad as the one issue abortion folks on the right.   They're chopping their nose off to spite their face.  

It's like no one reminded them of the COMPLETE MUSLIM BAN!!!! Warble garble!!!!

 

Trump may deport every Muslim to Gaza, regardless if they're Palestinian or not. 

[Pancho 44656]

 

[wood 11225]

6 hours ago, locodos said:

In other boat/trump related news...

Swastika Flags Flown During Donald Trump Boat Parade in Florida

So, the sign on the front is a reference to the My Pillow guy. I wouldn't rule out the idea of it being anti-Trumpers stirring the shit, but the fact that something like that is even believable at all at this point is striking, with the campaign being fed talking points from Ohio Nazis, calling for mass deportations of brown & black people, etc.

Edited October 14 by wood

[Chad Fuck 17631]

4 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Trump may deport every Muslim to Gaza, regardless if they're Palestinian or not. 

Indeed he may.  And my Muslim friends are shaken as the rest of us with these folks who think somehow this is helpful to their cause.  It's truly mind bottling. 

[Mdhorn 5945]

9 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

I totally agree and have been thinking she's given up a ton of momentum since the debate.  For years we have all said the best way to handle a bully is to walk right up to him and punch him in the nose.  From the moment Biden stepped out of the race through the debate that's exactly what the Harris campaign did.  They attacked, attacked, attacked and dragged his stupid fat ass all over the place. 

The last two weeks since she's gone on this touchy-feely podcast tour it feels like a Tom Herman 4th quarter with the lead.  I didn't like the way those turned out.

My wife and I noticed too--wtf happened to Republicans being weird?  Why run out the clock? Punch back--put him on the offensive and stop with the defensive stances that are only serve as distractions.    Even better, ask the NYT why they and others aren't going after Trump for his lock up the media comments.  Keep his negative comments floating in the open and end each with a We're not going back!  

[locodos 5386]

1 minute ago, wood said:

So, the sign on the front ... is that a reference to the My Pillow guy? I wouldn't rule out the idea of it being anti-Trumpers stirring the shit, but the fact that it's even believable at all at this point is striking, with the campaign being fed talking points from Ohio Nazis, calling for mass deportations of brown & black people, etc.

Read the article..  Hyper linked.  They are legit nazis, and they love everything Trump stands for.

[Brisketexan 104935]

Just now, Chad Fuck said:

Indeed he may.  And my Muslim friends are shaken as the rest of us with these folks who think somehow this is helpful to their cause.  It's truly mind bottling. 

The metaphor of how some American Muslims are saying they'll vote for Trump over the Gaza issue is pretty damned solid the metaphor of a suicide vest: if you don't give us everything we want, we'll destroy everything, including ourselves.

It's fucking morally indefensible.  "I don't like what's happening in Gaza, so I'm going to inflict pain on everyone else, including American muslims, unless we get everything we want."  Fuck that, and fuck them.

[Fudge Nuggets 19169]

8 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Trump may deport every Muslim to Gaza, regardless if they're Palestinian or not. 

If they're dumb enough to help put him back in the White House, I hope he does.  Fuck 'em.

[Brisketexan 104935]

1 minute ago, Mdhorn said:

My wife and I noticed too--wtf happened to Republicans being weird?  Why run out the clock? Punch back--put him on the offensive and stop with the defensive stances that are only serve as distractions.    Even better, ask the NYT why they and others aren't going after Trump for his lock up the media comments.  Keep his negative comments floating in the open and end each with a We're not going back!  

This.  

Trump said we should lock up the media.

He said any former president criticizing a presidential candidate should be imprisoned.

He has promised to deport people who are in this country legally.

He called the opposing candidate a retard.

He has lied about FEMA coming to take your house.

 

None of those things are hyperbole -- they are things he has actually said just in recent days.  Every single one should be run as a headline of "Trump makes shameful statement calling for imprisoning of people who criticize him - not presidential material."  Yes, you fucking editorialize on the front fucking page, because this is EXACTLY the kind of situation that calls for it.