2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[Francisco 2.0 32379]

 

 

 

[4th&Five 41499]

 

[Francisco 2.0 32379]

 

 

 

['stache 21786]

There is zero chance he understood any part of that question (the one about reserve currency and protectionism). 

Edited October 15 by 'stache

[RDCanecutter 26373]

4 hours ago, Js1 said:

Isn’t Minneapolis, like,  thriving? 

Many cities are thriving but your republican brother-in-law still won't go downtown because in 1982 your uncle's cousin's friend got scared from watching a Starsky & Hutch rerun.

[Brisketexan 104923]

1 minute ago, 4th&Five said:

 

Translation to what he and Vance have been saying over the last couple of weeks: "Look at any place in American with black people.  Black people means you're a shithole."

[4th&Five 41499]

 

[G650 14212]

He's really going loopy

[Jive Turkey 12591]

Micklethwait is dunking all over Trump, and Trump doesn’t even know it.

[CooterBrown 17977]

1 hour ago, ChiTownDoc said:

I’m a brown dude who visits OK and some outposts in TX a few times a year with my green eyed blonde wife.  We are always blown away by how hospitable people are.  They’re scared of the boogeyman that doesn’t exist.  The propaganda works.  There is no way that % of the country is virulent racist/sexists - as Red described above.  

I've spent an obscene amount of time in Tulsa and OKC over the past 15 years.  Everyone I've ever met there has been some of the nicest folks I've met...and it never feels like the fake cordiality in Texas.  I have the same experience in Austin.  But both states are ran by complete assholes for assholes.  I think the disconnect is spending most of my time in the larger cities around college educated people and projecting it onto the entire population.  I can go 30 minutes outside of my neighborhood that went 85% for Biden and be surrounded by Trump caravans. We went out to Enchanted Rock a few weeks ago and my kid had never seen a Trump sign before.  She was like where the fuck did you take me? Is this child abuse?

 

[ChiTownDoc 21118]

1 hour ago, royiv said:

Do you think the fact that you are a very wealthy physician and businessman has anything to do with that? 

No.  Because I wasn’t born any of that.  Poor af born in Lubbock and grew up in OKC suburbs.  When my wife (gf then) and I first went back we drove her Grand Am which I’m sure impressed the masses.  

[Tuco 5076]

12 minutes ago, 'stache said:

There is zero chance he understood any part of that question (the one about reserve currency and protectionism). 

I would have loved to see a pivot to crypto.  He thinks that losing the dollar as a reserve currency is like losing a war, but he is going to push an alternative because he can make a buck off of it. 

[ChiTownDoc 21118]

10 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

I've spent an obscene amount of time in Tulsa and OKC over the past 15 years.  Everyone I've ever met there has been some of the nicest folks I've met...and it never feels like the fake cordiality in Texas.  I have the same experience in Austin.  But both states are ran by complete assholes for assholes.  I think the disconnect is spending most of my time in the larger cities around college educated people and projecting it onto the entire population.  I can go 30 minutes outside of my neighborhood that went 85% for Biden and be surrounded by Trump caravans. We went out to Enchanted Rock a few weeks ago and my kid had never seen a Trump sign before.  She was like where the fuck did you take me? Is this child abuse?

 

Interesting you bring this up.  Maybe the injuns or something else but the love in OK and Austin feel really genuine whereas west Texas is as you describe.  I have no trouble saying over 50% of people in west Texas are racists/sexists.  

[4th&Five 41499]

 

[kevwun 15746]

LOL, why did they ever agree to this one?  A smart person who will not be cowed is going to ask you a lot of in depth questions, it will go great.

Edited October 15 by kevwun

[bluto 4905]

I dare ya to swim into texags waters on the interview today 

“totally owned the interviewer”

”he’s on a roll despite being interrupted”

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3498147

[mdmost 42993]

Just now, kevwun said:

LOL, why did they ever agree to this one?  Smart people are going to ask you a lot of in depth questions, it will be great.

Because it doesn't matter when you can spin anything into "they're tough on me" or "this guy has never liked me" and make it a grievance. That's all he plays to now. The grievances of men, white women, olds, and younger voters that are assholes. 

[CooterBrown 17977]

1 minute ago, bluto said:

I dare ya to swim into texags waters on the interview today 

[kevwun 15746]

It's easy to understand with them.  They've had delusional opinions about their football team for decades.

[Hiphopopotamos 20868]

2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Because it doesn't matter when you can spin anything into "they're tough on me" or "this guy has never liked me" and make it a grievance. That's all he plays to now. The grievances of men, white women, olds, and younger voters that are assholes. 

'He is an avatar for their grievances'.  If anything, being humiliated by an intellectual is only going to make them like him more.

[royiv 9193]

12 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

No.  Because I wasn’t born any of that.  Poor af born in Lubbock and grew up in OKC suburbs.  When my wife (gf then) and I first went back we drove her Grand Am which I’m sure impressed the masses.  

But that’s not who you’re now. My point was, as others have alluded to, is you’re “one of the good ones” so you don’t see the overt racism that someone in a different station of life might experience. Willing to be wrong, but it was just a reaction I had reading the post I was replying to.

[Francisco 2.0 32379]

 

 

 

[Firemans4Horn 18023]

3 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

 

the heaviest thing he’s ever lifted in his life was a double quarter pounder with cheese. 

[Jive Turkey 12591]

3 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

 

Under Project 2025,  I think that’s the plan.  Let states waive child labor laws and then let minors work in auto plants.

https://epiaction.org/2024/08/26/trumps-project-2025-would-let-states-bypass-laws-protecting-children-from-harmful-working-conditions/

[RDCanecutter 26373]

13 minutes ago, bluto said:

I dare ya to swim into texags waters on the interview today 

Did my time, ain't never goin back.

[Jive Turkey 12591]

 

[Js1 85223]

Never any policy

 

[Horn Dog 9789]

1 hour ago, ChiTownDoc said:

I’m a brown dude who visits OK and some outposts in TX a few times a year with my green eyed blonde wife.  We are always blown away by how hospitable people are.  They’re scared of the boogeyman that doesn’t exist.  The propaganda works.  There is no way that % of the country is virulent racist/sexists - as Red described above.  

Pics of your green eyed blond wife and I will then explain why people are so "hospitable" when ya'll walk in . 

[ChiTownDoc 21118]

20 minutes ago, royiv said:

But that’s not who you’re now. My point was, as others have alluded to, is you’re “one of the good ones” so you don’t see the overt racism that someone in a different station of life might experience. Willing to be wrong, but it was just a reaction I had reading the post I was replying to.

Yes saying I was treated the same.  It didn’t change.  If anything it was better back then before people had all the brainwashing.  

['stache 21786]

He’s an absolute moron. This is definitely a simulation.

[Chewbacca 7757]

2 hours ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Jesus Christ look at his fucking makeup.  This looks worse than the Cornyn picture.  Whoever is doing this must truly hate him.

 

Supposedly he puts on the makeup himself. 

[BamaATL 16592]

*****************BREAKING SURLY ITEAM NEWS EXCLUSIVE*******************

Early turn out in Georgia is massive.  My ballot, cast at approximately 11:30, was the 634th of the day, and there were 200 people in line behind me, and no signs of slowing.  For reference, our precinct in 2020 had approximately 8000 votes cast in 2020, all manners of voting.  Today is on pace to have at least 1000 votes cast on day 1.  Also, unscientifically and just from observation, the crowd skewed markedly younger in comparison from 2020, I would guess down from an average age of 60sih then to roughly 50ish this time.  Overheard in line behind several Republicans, "This doesn't look good."  Lots of women, lots, by my guess approximately 2 to 1.  So younger, more women, about the same amount of racial diversity.  Lots less olds, lots.  

Observed, Republican poll monitor looking mighty unhappy about the turnout, Democratic poll monitor with a happy smile.  I'm not under any delusion that Dems will win my area, but negate any advantage held prior looks very favorable.  (Last time around 60/40 Republican-Dem.  We've got a shot at 45% in my mind).  

[shakahorn 1645]

"...Trump insists that [tariffs] will encourage companies to move factories back to the United States without raising costs for consumers — which is an argument many economists disagree with."

I've heard this quite a bit, phrased almost exactly the same every time.  Are there any legitimate economists who agree with Trump?

[CTC2 2779]

1 hour ago, ChiTownDoc said:

I’m a brown dude who visits OK and some outposts in TX a few times a year with my green eyed blonde wife.  We are always blown away by how hospitable people are.  They’re scared of the boogeyman that doesn’t exist.  The propaganda works.  There is no way that % of the country is virulent racist/sexists - as Red described above.  

As a white guy who has lived in Texas all my life I can assure you that the percentage is large.  What you are missing is what these same people are saying after you walk off.  Rural Texas is a cesspool of racism and Christian Nationalism. 
I own some land in East Texas. When I go into town, I hear the talk in the cafe. I encounter a large proportion of bigots.   But, I will say that the farmers and ranchers have no problem relying on illegal labor in their operations. 
Think about it this way, look at the rural margins for Ted Cruz after voting takes place. That tells you everything you should know about them. 

[ChiTownDoc 21118]

35 minutes ago, bluto said:

I dare ya to swim into texags waters on the interview today 

“totally owned the interviewer”

”he’s on a roll despite being interrupted”

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3498147

I know it's mindboggling but secrant is actually worse than txags.  Fucking SEC.  At least I can take solace knowing a bunch of liberal commie pinkos are running that shithole. 

[Francisco 2.0 32379]

He’s ‘Obsessed’: What Trump’s Madison Square Garden Rally Is All About

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trump-obsessed-madison-square-garden-podcasts?r=10es58&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

 

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FOR THREE STRAIGHT PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGNS, Donald Trump mused about holding a rally at Madison Square Garden. Now it’s finally happening.

The ex-president’s campaign announced on Monday that he would appear at the world’s most famous arena on October 27, just nine days before voters head to the polls.

Despite Trump’s occasional boast, no one on his team actually believes that they have a chance at picking up New York’s twenty-eight Electoral College votes.

 

 

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Instead, the event is a play for the candidate’s id.

Headlining Madison Square Garden represents the fulfillment of a longtime dream for an outer-borough kid who always has a New York state of mind, even after he technically became a Florida Man.

“I’m gonna fill the Garden,” Trump proudly boasted to a confidant who relayed the comment to The Bulwark on condition of anonymity.

 

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Trump, the confidant said, “has just been obsessed with this for at least a year. This is his campaign. So it’s happening.”

It won’t come cheap. The campaign will probably shell out at least $1 million to rent Madison Square Garden, pay union labor to build the stage, and manage the event, a source familiar with the discussions said. The arena can hold nearly 20,000 people.

 

Spoiler

Trump has privately fumed in fundraisers about the cash gap between his campaign and Vice President Kamala Harris’s, as the New York Times reported this weekend. But his advisers say they have more than enough money to cover the hefty MSG expense and remain competitive in advertising through November 5. They say Trump plans a fundraiser around the rally, as he often does. They also justify the event as an effective way to attract broad attention because the national media is based in New York City and, as they see it, can never resist amplifying coverage in its backyard.

Trump’s rally in the Bronx in May attracted outsized attention. So too did his various appearances for his New York trial, where he would often go on days when his attendance was not required just to hold court with the press. They believe Madison Square Garden will guarantee more buzz and coverage.

“Madison Square Garden has already paid for itself,” crowed one Trump adviser.

Said a second adviser: “It’s great optics. Optics matter.”

TRUMP WILL BE JOINING A LONG LINE of presidents over the last century who spoke at Madison Square Garden in the final days of their campaigns, including both Hoover and Roosevelt in 1932,1 Roosevelt again in 1936 and 1940, Truman in 1948, Eisenhower in 1956, Kennedy in 1960, and Johnson in 1964. (All these were at the old MSG, demolished in 1968.) Most of these speeches were forgettable—FDR’s in 1936 being the exception—but all these candidates hoped a good showing at the Garden would give their campaigns a final boost of enthusiasm.

For Trump, the MSG event is part of the bicoastal rally-and-spectacle phase of his campaign, one that has seen him travel to other blue states this month, including California (in the Coachella Valley on Saturday) and Colorado (in Aurora on Friday). Trump’s campaign is discussing a rally in New Jersey as well—potentially at the Prudential Center in Newark—which will test whether the national media’s appetite for events in their backyard extends across the Hudson River.

A source who has discussed the rallies with Trump said the events in these blue states could influence some congressional races in the hopes that Republicans keep control of the House, where they have a paper-thin majority of 220–212.

“The reason we have a majority in the House right now is because of California and New York,” the source said. “You pick up a seat here, you pick up a seat there, the NRCC does its job and all of a sudden you’re not impeached on your first day in office.

Trump’s campaign describes each of the events as unique messaging opportunities (California progressivism under Harris; the toll of migration in Colorado; crime and immigration in New York). But ultimately the rallies settle into a familiar script. Trump reads his teleprompter for about 45 minutes and ad-libs for an additional 45 minutes or so. His desultory stream-of-consciousness speeches, farragoes of lies, exaggerations, and misstatements, have increasingly drawn negative press coverage focused on his age and sanity. The Trump campaign dismisses the criticism as elite chatter that doesn’t matter to his voters.

Trump’s town hall Monday in Pennsylvania took a strange and newsworthy turnwhen two people passed out at separate times in the audience. That prompted Trump to cut the Q&A session short so he could play his favorite musical hits like a DJ.

What’s important to the Trump campaign is controlling the news cycle—which explains why he has held fifteen events in the first fourteen days of this month—and reaching the right voters. The candidate has had a ubiquitous presence on male-centric podcasts like Flagrant (last week) and Full Send (today), on the latter of which Trump announced he would be a guest on The Joe Rogan Experience, the most popular podcast on Spotify. Reuters reported Monday that Harris may also appear on Rogan’s show, which has not confirmed either candidate as a guest.

Trump also recently recorded an episode with Bussin’ with the Boys (dropping this week) and he plans an appearance on Six Feet Under, a podcast with former professional wrestling star the Undertaker.

AFTER A PERIOD of largely avoiding the press, Harris has embraced nontraditional media by appearing last week on Alex Cooper’s Call Her Daddy and on Howard Stern’s show. But Harris also made time for more traditional shows, such as The View and 60 Minutes. She is also set to appear on Fox News, as well as CNN for a town hall that was scheduled in light of Trump declining to debate Harris on that network.

On Sunday, Harris called out Trump for not releasing his health records and skipping that second debate with her.

“Why does his staff want him to hide away?” Harris said to applause in Greenville, North Carolina. “Are they afraid that people will see that he is too weak and unstable to lead America? Is that what’s going on?”

That prompted a response from the Trump campaign’s rapid-response team on X, which called Harris’s remarks “highly cringe” and accused her of “projecting.” Privately, Trump aides believe that Harris has been suckered into a more conventional approach while the ex-president is reaching audiences and driving coverage in more novel ways.

“We’re going around you guys in the media,” said a third Trump adviser who spoke on condition of anonymity. “And MSG? It is what it is. Trump is going to sell out Madison Square Garden and he’s gonna let everyone know and that’s a win.”

But Trump is not actually selling out the arena; admission is free.

“Doesn’t matter,” the adviser said. “Who cares about that?”

 

 

[ChiTownDoc 21118]

Just now, CTC2 said:

As a white guy who has lived in Texas all my life I can assure you that the percentage is large.  What you are missing is what these same people are saying after you walk off.  Rural Texas is a cesspool of racism and Christian Nationalism. 
I own some land in East Texas. When I go into town, I hear the talk in the cafe. I encounter a large proportion of bigots.   But, I will say that the farmers and ranchers have no problem relying on illegal labor in their operations. 
Think about it this way, look at the rural margins for Ted Cruz after voting takes place. That tells you everything you should know about them. 

Oh yeah, see my quote after on west texas.  You don't have to convince me.  I was more talking the country as a whole.  But that's over...  I'm born again baby, fuck them racist/sexist pieces of shit.  LFG

[Red Five 40777]

I’m glad Trump is spending all his time in the critical swing states of California, Illinois, and New York.

[royiv 9193]

11 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Yes saying I was treated the same.  It didn’t change.  If anything it was better back then before people had all the brainwashing.  

Got it. I misunderstood you originally.

[locodos 5386]

12 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

*****************BREAKING SURLY ITEAM NEWS EXCLUSIVE*******************

Early turn out in Georgia is massive.  My ballot, cast at approximately 11:30, was the 634th of the day, and there were 200 people in line behind me, and no signs of slowing.  For reference, our precinct in 2020 had approximately 8000 votes cast in 2020, all manners of voting.  Today is on pace to have at least 1000 votes cast on day 1.  Also, unscientifically and just from observation, the crowd skewed markedly younger in comparison from 2020, I would guess down from an average age of 60sih then to roughly 50ish this time.  Overheard in line behind several Republicans, "This doesn't look good."  Lots of women, lots, by my guess approximately 2 to 1.  So younger, more women, about the same amount of racial diversity.  Lots less olds, lots.  

Observed, Republican poll monitor looking mighty unhappy about the turnout, Democratic poll monitor with a happy smile.  I'm not under any delusion that Dems will win my area, but negate any advantage held prior looks very favorable.  (Last time around 60/40 Republican-Dem.  We've got a shot at 45% in my mind).  

I liked what I read until the last 3 sentences.   *If* your district is 45% D, why would you be enthused about the turnout?  You gonna be down 10 votes for every 100, but you want to make it up in volume?  I hope you're wrong about the percentages.

Edited October 15 by locodos

[Snake Diggity 4615]

Trump out there lookin like he might not even have the energy to incite another violent attempt to prevent the peaceful transfer of power.

[4th&Five 41499]

 

[bolverk 29627]

11 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Yes saying I was treated the same.  It didn’t change.  If anything it was better back then before people had all the brainwashing.  

With all due respect, those pink shoes you had to wear as a poor boy won over your classmates. Go out and get yourself some today, and the world can once again be your oyster.

 

 

[BamaATL 16592]

1 minute ago, locodos said:

I liked what I read until the last 3 sentences.   *If* your district is 45% D, why would you be enthused about the turnout?  You gonna be down 10 votes for every 100, but you want to make it up in volume?  I hope you're wrong about the percentages.

Picking up 5% in my area negates 20k worth of Republican votes in other areas.  In a state won by 10k last time around, that's a big deal.  

[texasdago 7554]

9 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

pay union labor to build the stage

be a real shame if some disgruntled union workers did a shoddy job.  We know Trump loves unions and overtime pay.

On that Bloomberg interview, please please please do more.  People need to see this.  I have to say, I though Mickelthwait excelled at meats but an even better interviewer.

[shakahorn 1645]

Trump's answers remind me of a smartass comment I make whenever anyone tells me "I got a question for you."  I say, I have an answer, it might not be the right answer, it might not be the answer you want to hear, it might not even make any sense, but I always got an answer.

[Red Five 40777]

 

Are they purposefully trying to insult as many potential swing state voters as possible?

[4th&Five 41499]

[ChiTownDoc 21118]

2 minutes ago, bolverk said:

With all due respect, those pink shoes you had to wear as a poor boy won over your classmates. Go out and get yourself some today, and the world can once again be your oyster.

 

 

Pink men's shoes cost MORE these days.  The audacity.  

[bolverk 29627]

2 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Pink men's shoes cost MORE these days.  The audacity.  

This Biden/Harris economy and its inflation will the ruin of us all.