2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[immamac 41718]

2 minutes ago, Orale said:

With all due respect, you're a moron. Biden has been one of the best Presidents of all time. If your "both sides" syphilitic mind can't comprehend why, that's on you. 

Look guys I found one of the libtards. 

[Gatorubet 29663]

14 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

Yet another of an endless series of victimless felonies. 

The impeachment failed. The second impeachment failed. The Russia Hoax failed. Do you think legal warfare will succeed at destroying him? I am undecided.

“Russia hoax” is a phrase that only the stupidest most gullible cult members spew.    Russian state media has been discussing Trump’s conviction and bemoaning the loss of, and here I quote them directly, “our useful idiot.”  

Congratulations for self identifying as the stupidest of the stupid.

[Snake Diggity 4566]

2 hours ago, immamac said:

Yeah, fuck those ignorant registered voters. Who needs those people anyway. 

You are making my point for me. There is a very big disconnect between things he's doing and the lack of outreach or education on this for the general populace 

Your point boils down to who is to blame for our problems: politicians, or the people who elect them?  What makes a “good” candidate?  I believe Biden has had effective, realistic, positive policy goals; to me, that makes him a really good candidate who gets dinged for his age.  He’s not a perfect candidate, but voters who can’t discern have to be held responsible for their part.

I suppose a prerequisite for a candidate to be “good” is to win elections, so the fact that Biden looks to have a chance to lose to a fucking shitbird like Trump might make him a “bad” candidate.  But again, I blame the voters.  Somebody like Rubio or Hogan would have been every bit the candidate that Romney, Kerry, W (who actually won), McCain, or Ford were.  Our electorate problem is far worse than our candidate field.

[immamac 41718]

Just now, Snake Diggity said:

Your point boils down to who is to blame for our problems: politicians, or the people who elect them?  What makes a “good” candidate?  I believe Biden has had effective, realistic, positive policy goals; to me, that makes him a really good candidate who gets dinged for his age.  He’s not a perfect candidate, but voters who can’t discern have to be held responsible for their part.

I suppose a prerequisite for a candidate to be “good” is to win elections, so the fact that Biden looks to have a chance to lose to a fucking shitbird like Trump might make him a “bad” candidate.  But again, I blame the voters.  Somebody like Rubio or Hogan would have been every bit the candidate that Romney, Kerry, W (who actually won), McCain, or Ford were.  Our electorate problem is far worse than our candidate field.

Joe Biden is a good maybe great president. He is a bad candidate with a completely unclear strategy for re-election against the literal worst candidate of all time. 

[SizzleChest 8162]

3 hours ago, immamac said:

By being relatable and focusing on shit that pisses off politicians but makes the populace happy. 

Like shitting on people who make trades while in office. 

Leaning in big time on mega corps and the FTC cases to break up monopolies that are clearly fucking consumers. 

Leaning in on extreme consumer protection policies like not being able to call things sales without proof of historical pricing etc. 

Actual outreach and education campaigns on the net positives of immigration and the good of the mixing pot effect. 

Leaning in on sports, one of America's greatest exports and producers of gdp. 

Leaning in on public safety measures

Doing literally anything related to bank or finance reform instead of just calling plays from the good ole hope playbook. 

You know the stuff he does and gets a good bump and then fucks off and doesn't keep his foot on the gas with. 

He's an 80 year old moderate that has been in DC for 50+ years, therefore he's basically a bowl of porridge in a time where America is mainlining populism like heroin and has gotten overly distracted by stupid culture war bullshit.  He's not a populist and never will be. 

He's a 4 points, 10 rebounds per game turnip.  He's not getting buckets or dropping dimes, but he's been doing some very necessary dirty work the last 3.5 years that has been ignored in the previous 40.  Maybe that changes in the next 4 years if he wins, but it would be out of character for him politically to do a 180.

His ability to beat Trump is all that matters.  If he fails, which I don't think he will, it's just more evidence that the USAs decline has accelerated and we're basically fucking Italy with a stronger economy and an actual military, which along with our other institutions, will continue to decline.

[aggie08 20479]

43 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

Yet another of an endless series of victimless felonies. 

The impeachment failed. The second impeachment failed. The Russia Hoax failed. Do you think legal warfare will succeed at destroying him? I am undecided.

"Well, as long as the felonies are 'victimless', he still has my vote!"

Do you idiots even hear yourselves?

Edited June 2 by aggie08

[Satchel 6902]

43 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

Yet another of an endless series of victimless felonies. 

The impeachment failed. The second impeachment failed. The Russia Hoax failed. Do you think legal warfare will succeed at destroying him? I am undecided.

Don’t you mean the Senate failed to remove him from office after he was impeached twice? As regards the so called “Russia Hoax”, in this political climate, it is always important to interrupt the lie:

https://rollcall.com/2020/08/18/senate-intelligence-committee-russian-interference-2016-election-report/

The Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday released the final report on its investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, finding numerous contacts between the Trump campaign and Moscow posed a “grave” counterintelligence threat.

“We found irrefutable evidence of Russian meddling,” Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., acting chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said in a statement, directly refuting President Donald Trump’s repeated assertions that Russian interference was a “hoax” perpetrated by Democrats.

The nearly 1,000-page report outlines the “breathtaking level of contacts between Trump officials and Russian government operatives that is a very real counterintelligence threat to our elections,” Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., the committee’s top Democrat, said in a statement.

The bipartisan congressional report closes the panel’s three-year probe into the Kremlin-led operation to influence and interfere in the 2016 presidential election. The fifth and final report involved interviewing 200 witnesses and examining more than 1 million documents, the committee said.

[Sawbonz 26871]

55 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

Yet another of an endless series of victimless felonies. 

The impeachment failed. The second impeachment failed. The Russia Hoax failed. Do you think legal warfare will succeed at destroying him? I am undecided.

 

Edited June 2 by Sawbonz

[Horn Dog 9473]

31 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

I suppose a prerequisite for a candidate to be “good” is to win elections, so the fact that Biden looks to have a chance to lose to a fucking shitbird like Trump might make him a “bad” candidate.  But again, I blame the voters. 

85% of Biden’s electivity weakness comes down to Fox “News” and the Electoral College.

 

23 minutes ago, SizzleChest said:

He's a 4 points, 10 rebounds per game turnip.  He's not getting buckets or dropping dimes, but he's been doing some very necessary dirty work the last 3.5 years that has been ignored in the previous 40.  

Biden = The Worm.

[Scheiss Meister 8317]

5 hours ago, immamac said:

Because they both suck complete fucking ass and do nothing for them. 

Just because one is going to be evil and do terrible shit doesn't make it easier to choose the other guy when based on personal reasons. 

Despite what all of you very engaged people thing the disengaged don't fucking care about any of this shit. They just want things to be good and for life to be enjoyable. 

If one being evil and doing terrible shit doesn't make the choice of the other easy, one must accept and be comfortable with the evil and terrible.  Contemplate what that means about the character of the one who will choose evil and terrible by standing by and doing nothing to stop it.

[immamac 41718]

Just now, Scheiss Meister said:

If one being evil and doing terrible shit doesn't make the choice of the other easy, one must accept and be comfortable with the evil and terrible.  Contemplate what that means about the character of the one who will choose evil and terrible by standing by and doing nothing to stop it.

Lazy? Disenfranchised? Stupid? Apathetic? 

The world isn't binary the quicker all of you stop acting like voting for trump or Biden are the only 2 possibilities the quicker you can actually convince people who are not doing one of those 2 things already to vote for Joe Biden so we aren't fucked. 

[atomheartbevo 89015]

1 hour ago, Thetexashammer said:

Yet another of an endless series of victimless felonies. 

Exactly.  I don’t know why people don’t understand it when Republicans claim to be the party of law and order, it also means the party of victimless crimes, which is essentially the same thing as law and order because order is maintained as long as there are no victims, right? Paying off a porn star and trying to cover it up by a series of fraudulent actions hurts no one - she got paid in the end, so what’s the damage?  How is it different than doing a little coke in private or a felon owning a gun that he would never take out in public, or a felon voting in an election where his vote won’t matter or doing 90 in a school zone when there are no kids around or stealing some classified information that you won’t technically sell or having a private e-mail server r getting a blowjob from the intern in the Oval Office.  We aren’t talking about somebody wearing a tan suit sheeple!

[Surly Bevo 24573]

The people who are all WIFM all the time are cunts.  But Imma is absolutely right....there are a lot of those folks out there and they need to have their hearts and minds worked over in the next 4-5 months.  

Edited June 2 by Surly Bevo

[Scheiss Meister 8317]

8 minutes ago, immamac said:

Lazy? Disenfranchised? Stupid? Apathetic? 

The world isn't binary the quicker all of you stop acting like voting for trump or Biden are the only 2 possibilities the quicker you can actually convince people who are not doing one of those 2 things already to vote for Joe Biden so we aren't fucked. 

The choice between decency and evil, democracy and dictatorship are as binary as one can get.  There is no reasonable disinterest or neutrality here.  Everything else can be fixed if Biden wins, but will be permanently set in stone if Trump does.  But the ignorant will do what they will and let others clean up the avoidable mess.

[TwiceHorn 30850]

4 hours ago, C-Man said:

New owner of the Mavs y’all. Wonder how this sits with Cubes, who is pretty anti-Trump/MAGA.
 

Cuban got in bed with her knowingly and on-purpose.  He's just another greedhead. Never been anything else.

[Bozo_Casanova 25874]

2 hours ago, Thetexashammer said:

Yet another of an endless series of victimless felonies. 

The impeachment failed. The second impeachment failed. The Russia Hoax failed. Do you think legal warfare will succeed at destroying him? I am undecided.

❎ victimless felony
❎ Russia Hoax
❎ Lawfare

[David Dennison 17797]

2 hours ago, Thetexashammer said:

Yet another of an endless series of victimless felonies. 

The impeachment failed. The second impeachment failed. The Russia Hoax failed. Do you think legal warfare will succeed at destroying him? I am undecided.

Actually, both impeachments succeeded. 

[Neonmoon 38126]

4 hours ago, immamac said:

By being relatable and focusing on shit that pisses off politicians but makes the populace happy. 

Like shitting on people who make trades while in office. 

Leaning in big time on mega corps and the FTC cases to break up monopolies that are clearly fucking consumers. 

Leaning in on extreme consumer protection policies like not being able to call things sales without proof of historical pricing etc. 

Actual outreach and education campaigns on the net positives of immigration and the good of the mixing pot effect. 

Leaning in on sports, one of America's greatest exports and producers of gdp. 

Leaning in on public safety measures

Doing literally anything related to bank or finance reform instead of just calling plays from the good ole hope playbook. 

You know the stuff he does and gets a good bump and then fucks off and doesn't keep his foot on the gas with. 

1. Agree. Politicians should be barred from trading while in office. Biden has not addressed this. 

2. Like the DOJ suing Live Nation and Ticketmaster for being a monopoly or going after Apple for smartphone monopoly ?

3. (Don’t know what this means. Seriously)

4. Agree. 

5. Um..what? 

6. Infrastructure Bill addresses part of this, along with Biden rebuilding CDC

7. What about going after overdraft fees or endorsing Basel III?  

Biden will not be relatable. He’s 150 years old. It’s the truth, especially to the vibes generation. I think he’s too old to be President. If you want to argue he’s not a good candidate, I’m all for it, but when it comes to policy, your complaints lack substance. He has accomplished more than most, even many items on your list, but people are unhappy, and fair or not, you blame the man in charge. 

 

[immamac 41718]

24 minutes ago, Scheiss Meister said:

The choice between decency and evil, democracy and dictatorship are as binary as one can get.  There is no reasonable disinterest or neutrality here.  Everything else can be fixed if Biden wins, but will be permanently set in stone if Trump does.  But the ignorant will do what they will and let others clean up the avoidable mess.

Except you are probably wrong and the "stupid" one in this conversation because of your denial of whats being clearly presented to you. (I don't think you are stupid) 

There are plenty of reasonable people who just want to bury their head in the sand because they've had enough. These are the same people that will be largely unaffected by a dictatorship because their view of life doesn't leave their periphery. 

Those people likely don't post here or anywhere. They are probably lurkers or off watching YouTube or down a big rabbit hole on SoundCloud. 

[immamac 41718]

1 minute ago, Neonmoon said:

1. Agree. Politicians should be barred from trading while in office. Biden has not addressed this. 

2. Like the DOJ suing Live Nation and Ticketmaster for being a monopoly or going after Apple for smartphone monopoly ?

3. (Don’t know what this means. Seriously)

4. Agree. 

5. Um..what? 

6. Infrastructure Bill addresses part of this, along with Biden rebuilding CDC

7. What about going after overdraft fees or endorsing Basel III?  

Biden will not be relatable. He’s 150 years old. It’s the truth, especially to the vibes generation. I think he’s too old to be President. If you want to argue he’s not a good candidate, I’m all for it, but when it comes to policy, your complaints lack substance. He has accomplished more than most, even many items on your list, but people are unhappy, and fair or not, you blame the man in charge. 

 

Yeah I said "like the stuff he does and gets a good bump then just walks away from" those are all examples of what he's leaned in on and then just weirdly let fade from any mention. 

[HenryJames 65525]

Maybe vote against this.

Spoiler

Faith-Based Groups That Assist Migrants Become Targets of Extremists

Charities that feed, clothe and shelter border crossers fear for the safety of their employees and volunteers as the election nears and the vitriol over immigration intensifies.

June 2, 2024Updated 5:35 p.m. ET

 

“We had never seen this level of harassment,” said Vino Pajanor, the chief executive of Catholic Charities San Diego.Ariana Drehsler for The New York Times

A man posing as a pest exterminator tried to gain access to a San Diego hotel that operates as a shelter for migrant families. The next day, a woman showed up claiming to be an immigrant in need of help. Workers at the shelter, run by Catholic Charities, turned away both impostors.

Three days later, menacing calls began pouring in to the staff. Voice mail left for the chief executive called him “scum” and “not really Christian.” A woman left another staff member an expletive-laced message about Catholics. She claimed that the nonprofit was flying migrants all over the country and profiting from an illegal operation.

The bogus exterminator was James O’Keefe, the right wing-provocateur who used to head Project Veritas, a group known for trying to entrap political opponents by using disguises and concealed cameras. The deluge of vitriol ensued after Mr. O’Keefe began posting videos on X in March claiming that the shelter was an illegal holding site for women and children and speculating, without evidence, that they had been trafficked.

For decades, Catholic Charities and other faith-based organizations have played a crucial role helping federal authorities and local governments manage influxes of migrants. Their work has been funded with bipartisan support in Congress, even through the presidency of Donald J. Trump, who often vilified immigrants.

But after President Biden took office in 2021 promising a more humane approach to migration, these faith-based groups have increasingly become the subjects of conspiracy theories and targets for far-right activists and Republican members of Congress, who accuse them of promoting an invasion to displace white Americans and engaging in child trafficking and migrant smuggling. The organizations say those claims are baseless.

 

For decades, Catholic Charities and other faith-based organizations have played a crucial role helping federal authorities and local governments manage influxes of migrants.Ariana Drehsler for The New York Times

Much like public officials who have faced increased threats to their security, employees of groups like Catholic Charities are now routinely targeted.

In San Diego, the threats online spawned threats in real life, as supporters of Mr. O’Keefe started appearing at other Catholic Charities sites, according to Vino Pajanor, the chief executive of Catholic Charities San Diego.

Private armed guards were posted at Catholic Charities facilities across the city, including at a shelter for homeless women and a center for Afghan refugees, after people, apparently prompted by Mr. O’Keefe’s posts, came searching for “smuggled” children.

Volunteers at the facilities were sent home, and employees who continued to work were advised to keep a low profile. Do not wear Catholic Charities T-shirts or badges outside the facility, they were told. Put on a face mask to obscure your identity, in the event that someone tries to film you.

“We had never seen this level of harassment,” said Mr. Pajanor, who oversees an operation that runs 20 facilities and employs 253 people in San Diego and Imperial counties.

Mr. O’Keefe did not respond to requests for comment for this article. Instead, he posted a video online in which he refers to those requests and mocks shelter workers’ complaints about harassment.

Even before Mr. O’Keefe turned up in San Diego, Catholic Charities was on alert for trouble stirred by the heated rhetoric around migrants and the border. Staff members who work with migrants completed active-shooter training two weeks before he appeared.

“I had been telling our team to be prepared for things to get tough as we get closer to the election, “ Mr. Pajanor said.

In Congress and in state legislatures, some Republicans have lent legitimacy to the disinformation about the nonprofit groups by echoing it themselves.

In April, Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, Republican of Georgia, berated Alejandro Mayorkas, the Homeland Security secretary, for his past service on the board of HIAS, a refugee resettlement agency formerly known as the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society. She claimed that the group was “not only financing the invasion of the country, but also telling illegal aliens to vote in the United States elections.”

Last year, Representative Tom Tiffany of Wisconsin claimed during a House Judiciary Committee hearing that nongovernmental organizations working on the border “are complicit in the greatest human trafficking operation perhaps in the history of the world.”

The risk of such incendiary allegations is that they could spur threats like those against Catholic Charities, and worse, could instigate violence.

“When you have this kind of hateful rhetoric spreading, and those who are supposed to be trusted echoing it or egging it on, some people hear a call to action,” said Cynthia Miller-Idriss, a professor at American University who studies extremism.

There is also a history of anti-immigration sentiment blurring into antisemitism. HIAS, for instance, was a target of antisemitic rants posted on social media by Robert Bowers, the gunman who attacked the Tree of Life synagogue in 2018 and killed 11 worshipers.

Catholic Charities and other faith-based organizations have long run pantries and homeless shelters and have assisted migrants, seniors and others in need of care across the country.

They have also become an integral part of many migrants’ first days in the United States. Once migrants families are released from federal custody, they are transported to shelters, where they typically stay one night. The organizations’ role in operating those shelters has made them into targets for people seeking to tap into the anxiety many Americans feel about the large numbers of migrants who have been crossing the border in recent years.

Four Republican House members, including Representative Lance Gooden of Texas and Mr. Tiffany, sent a letter in late 2022 to Catholic Charities, Jewish Family Service and Lutheran Immigrant and Refugee Service, now called Global Refuge, accusing them of “fueling the drastic increase in illegal aliens crossing the southern border.” The congressmen alleged that the nonprofits were misusing public funds and committing federal crimes, and instructed them to preserve documents in preparation for an investigation.

In a public response, Catholic Charities forcefully denied the allegations and said that, “to care for people who are at-risk, including vulnerable people on the move, is a part of the fabric of the global Catholic Church and is mandated by the Gospel.”

Last October, Stew Peters, a white nationalist and radio-show host, broadcast a speech on X and Rumble, where he has more than one million followers combined, calling for troops to “shoot people that are trying to invade our country.”

“That’d be a good first step,” he said. “But you know what a better second step would be? Shooting everyone involved with these fake charities.” He claimed that Catholic Charities was coaching “illegals on how to get admitted here,” an accusation the group strenuously denies.

Catholic Charities USA alerted its member agencies across the country about the threat, and some of the agencies adjusted their security resources and protocols.

In early February, Mr. O’Keefe appeared at a Catholic shelter  in Tucson disguised as a vagrant and was shooed away by sheriff’s deputies, according to a video he uploaded on X. He said that a person who infiltrated the facility was told that “many gang members come through in caravans.”

For about a month, staff members who were listed on the website of Catholic Community Services of Southern Arizona, which runs the shelter, received “obscene calls,” said Joe Leisz, a director.

Security was bolstered and a doorbell camera was installed at a center that offers services to the deaf and blind, after unsettling visits by people demanding to know “where we were hiding the trafficked children, the illegals,” Mr. Leisz said.

Also in February, Ben Bergquam, a far-right personality who has said that he was in a fight to restore the nation’s identity, posted a video on X recorded outside and inside Catholic Charities in Cincinnati, calling the organization “one of the main beneficiaries of the invasion.”

Mr. Bergquam attacked the charity on a podcast hosted by Steve Bannon, the former White House strategist. Mr. Bannon, for his part, called Catholic, Lutheran and Jewish groups that help immigrants “demons” and “anti-American.”

For the shelter staff in San Diego, the appearances of the fake exterminator and the faux migrant seemed like just another day in the middle of America’s political fray over immigration.

“I didn’t think much of it,” Cassandra Castellanos, the site director, recalled.

Three days later, Mr. O’Keefe’s video was posted on X to his 2.4 million followers and spread quickly.

In it, Mr. O’Keefe taunted security guards who denied him access to the shelter premises, and he speculated, without proof, that migrants inside the facility had been trafficked.

An early version of the video contained an image of a whiteboard listing names and phone numbers of staff members at the shelter. Mr. O’Keefe blurred the image after X informed him that the image violated its policy. But a screenshot of the organizational chart of Catholic Charities in San Diego remained on his feed.

Inundated with threats, Ms. Castellanos deleted her social media accounts.

“It only takes one person to really believe what James O’Keefe is saying, to try to hurt me to try to save the children or people we are supposedly smuggling,” she said.

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[Covri 6150]

3 hours ago, TexEx15 said:

In case anyone believes in signs. 

“And then He asked to take the wheel, and I trusted him, and He steered us right into that pole!” —Trump supporter on the bus 

[YGIFS 19445]

"Trust Jesus", asks to take the wheel as Christ is his co-pilot, pro-life flag is falling off a vehicle which could have killed dozens, and the door gets ripped off a la "Tommy Boy" style because BP station is all out of fuel, all they got's diesel.  I have that about right?  

And this was where?  The one part of New York City that 'brakes' for Trump each cycle?  

Okay, hope y'all had a nice morning at church today.  The simulation is now taken on our Seinfeld thread, "So I'm fighting him off with one hand and driving the bus with the other hand.  But I gotta keep making all the stops because they kept ringing the bell!"  What in the fucking fuck is happening?  

[miguelito 11108]

Hunter Biden is in trouble for some victimless crimes. 

[aggie08 20479]

4 minutes ago, miguelito said:

Hunter Biden is in trouble for some victimless crimes. 

[Satchel 6902]

Gene Getz was a very popular evangelical pastor/author in the 80’s and 90’s. In his best selling book, The Measure of a Man, he tells his evangelical readers the best way to get a true reading or insight into a person is to understand what the people at home (those who know him best) say and think about him. Well…

https://www.quora.com/What-was-Donald-Trump-s-reputation-in-New-York-before-he-became-President?top_ans=237672537

[Dbeasy 14783]

13 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Gene Getz was a very popular evangelical pastor/author in the 80’s and 90’s. In his best selling book, The Measure of a Man, he tells his evangelical readers the best way to get a true reading or insight into a person is to understand what the people at home (those who know him best) say and think about him. Well…

https://www.quora.com/What-was-Donald-Trump-s-reputation-in-New-York-before-he-became-President?top_ans=237672537

Hell just look up what his own presidential cabinet says about him. 

[SaucyJack 3473]

6 hours ago, immamac said:

Yeah, fuck those ignorant registered voters. Who needs those people anyway. 

You are making my point for me. There is a very big disconnect between things he's doing and the lack of outreach or education on this for the general populace 

Ignorant registered voters are the last group ANY campaign chases.

The Biden campaign will first chase registered dem voters who have a history of voting in  dem primaries and presidential elections.

Foundationally,  the Biden campaign will also have approx. 80+ million voters from 2020.

The campaign will then branch out to other groups of historical voters.  There may even be a component of registering new likely voters and getting them to the polls. 

This is a GOTV race.  Prioritizing registered voters that don't vote, won't get you elected dog catcher.

 

6 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

The only one ignorant is the person who is ignoring the full list of issues that Immamac listed just above. 

Immamac does a very good job of describing why the moderates and disengaged  aren’t happy with voting for either candidate. Some of the issues he describes are why I’m not excited about either candidate, although overall I’m okay with Biden. Given who Trump is, I plan to vote for a rotting cadaver in a casket ahead of Trump, and I damn well will vote. 

I'm a moderate and I'm happy to vote  Biden.

Disengaged don't make a shit because they don't vote.  It's GOTV.  Oh, and Trump ain't expanding his base.

Imma's list has been easily obliterated previously and today. 

Peaceful transfer of power.  If that alone doesn't motivate one to run to the poll for Biden, that's on them.

"But, but, but Biden isn't relatable!".   

 

[HenryJames 65525]

32 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Hell just look up what his own presidential cabinet says about him. 

[WhatTheBuck 28613]

6 hours ago, immamac said:

He is a bad candidate with a completely unclear strategy for re-election against the literal worst candidate of all time. 

The same things were said about him 4 years ago. Remember?

[immamac 41718]

Just now, WhatTheBuck said:

The same things were said about him 4 years ago. Remember?

yeah and he only won because everyone wanted to get rid of trump, now they have forgotten how insane it is to have him as president.

[YGIFS 19445]

7 hours ago, TexEx15 said:

In case anyone believes in signs. 

If there's anybody that can help investigate a tragic political bus incident, it's the San Marcos PD and Texas DPS.  

-But officer, this is a Staten Island Arby's

[cactusflinthead 27181]

 

[HenryJames 65525]

[immamac 41718]

4 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Or say "no thanks" which is what the fuck up is. 

We know the shit eaters who want extra broken glass on their plate exist. 

We know people who like airplane rubber chicken exist. 

We know people who don't like either exist. 

It's why Hillary lost to Donald Trump the first time and it's why Biden may be in trouble this time. Unenthusiastic people stay home and don't vote. 

[HenryJames 65525]

The reason Hillary lost and the reason Biden might lose is because of the electoral college. Both will get millions more votes than Trump.

Since 2000 the Republican nominee has won the popular vote once.

[YGIFS 19445]

Only since 1988; actually.  
 

[tx 3 putt 75473]

17 hours ago, immamac said:

Joe Biden is a good maybe great president. He is a bad candidate with a completely unclear strategy for re-election against the literal worst candidate of all time. 

his strategy is to protest results from the precinct level on up. Every maga person will scream voter fraud, fake ballots, ballot stuffing. Maga states are ready to play along. Texas is ready to throw out Harris county votes, if needed. Wouldn’t doubt if they plant some fake voters to assure they have ‘evidence’ 

Team trump’s hope is for the house to throw it all out and then the Supreme Court to rubber stamping it 

[Biff Tannen 45151]

22 hours ago, immamac said:

there's basically no policy being driven by the admin for current issues that actual impact Americans in big ways (social media, big tech, centralized everything, grift utilities and infrastructure etc) 

Dude

[Nice Guy Eddie 13310]

17 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I’d rather they eliminate the whole entire federal student loan program and let education prices adjust combined with a general student loan forgiveness, because the entire program is a scam on middle class people.  But the forgiveness is well targeted stimulus at least, which is more than I can say for any of the last 4-5 stimulus programs. 

This would also force school costs to be balanced to the correct level. The school loan program only funnels increasing amounts of money to schools to help with almost everything but classroom needs.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20304]

"All I ask is that you consider voting for a presidential candidate who can legally travel to Canada and the UK."   ---- Jason Isbell

[mdmost 42459]

OPEC trying to get in on the fuckery.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/ar-BB1ntRiK

[Sawbonz 26871]

1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

This would also force school costs to be balanced to the correct level. The school loan program only funnels increasing amounts of money to schools to help with almost everything but classroom needs.

Look at the increase in administration funding over the last 30 years 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33718]

3 hours ago, immamac said:

Or say "no thanks" which is what the fuck up is. 

We know the shit eaters who want extra broken glass on their plate exist. 

We know people who like airplane rubber chicken exist. 

We know people who don't like either exist. 

It's why Hillary lost to Donald Trump the first time and it's why Biden may be in trouble this time. Unenthusiastic people stay home and don't vote. 

you alright, dude? again, it's fucking June. chill the fuck out. 

[Zonahorn 7968]

 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13310]

2 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

"All I ask is that you consider voting for a presidential candidate who can legally travel to Canada and the UK."   ---- Jason Isbell

Most countries and their leaders desperately want the US President to visit. On the horrible scenario if Trump wins in November, think about the embarrassment to the US when these countries have to pause their no-felon law when Trump plans to visit.

[bluto 4814]

55 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

 

What’s up with their fucky quotation marks

[YGIFS 19445]

2 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Most countries and their leaders desperately want the US President to visit. On the horrible scenario if Trump wins in November, think about the embarrassment to the US when these countries have to pause their no-felon law when Trump plans to visit.

I think they'd still uphold their own national integrity of laws and ask...

"Well if President Trump is ineligible to visit, what about his Secretary of State?"

-Also, a convicted felon

"Okay, how about your Deputy Secretary of State?"

-Again, convicted felon

"Can we meet with the Undersecretary for Public Diplomacy?" 

-Once again, Trump-appointed felon 

"Well, who do you have we can host and meet with?"

-We have Richard from the Copy Room.  Is that anything?  

[Pato del Muerto 52093]

Just now, bluto said:

What’s up with their fucky quotation marks

I believe in general, when you start a new paragraph within a quote you repeat the open quote mark. 

[Sawbonz 26871]

44 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I believe in general, when you start a new paragraph within a quote you repeat the open quote mark. 

Sounds like some librul bs to me