2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[Pato del Muerto 53607]

6 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Sounds like some librul bs to me

CHICAGO style guide?  

[Js1 87311]

 

 

[Chuckie Finster 23111]

39 minutes ago, Js1 said:

 

 

 

 

[Pato del Muerto 53607]

77 to 74 is a clobbering?

[Brisketexan 107051]

2 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

77 to 74 is a clobbering?

In a single day?  Yeah, that's a pretty good punch.  Not unprecedented, but not common - Daily drops of $3 or more are relatively rare.

[David Dennison 19571]

So are they increasing or decreasing production?

[Gatorubet 30803]

7 hours ago, immamac said:

Or say "no thanks" which is what the fuck up is. 

We know the shit eaters who want extra broken glass on their plate exist. 

We know people who like airplane rubber chicken exist. 

We know people who don't like either exist. 

It's why Hillary lost to Donald Trump the first time and it's why Biden may be in trouble this time. Unenthusiastic people stay home and don't vote. 

if Donald Trump doesn’t conspire with Russia to flood social media with untruths and the FBI doesn’t kneecap Hillary right before the vote, she still wins even carrying 25 years of Vince Foster bullshit

[BamaATL 16593]

As it turns out, the Kingdom ain't so great at managing money.  Who knew putting indoor ski slopes in the desert and paying billions to golfers and wrestlers wasn't a solid financial move?  

[tx 3 putt 78793]

No need to even hide it ….

 

[Gatorubet 30803]

8 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

No need to even hide it ….

 

please let this be real.    I understand that they can’t be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen unless they’re pregnant, but this seems too big and electoral to give us.  The simulation is not that kind.

['stache 22148]

Immamac's posts are just another explanation of how "moderate/undecided/disengaged" voters require perfection of any democrat from solely their individual perspective, and if that doesn't happen (which is literally impossible), well I guess I'll just vote for the angry one who says government sucks, or just won't vote because "both sides suck" which usually results in right wingers who do nothing winning elections. There's no solution to that problem for democrats, the majority of American's have full on brain rot, to the fucking core, there is nothing that will ever be enough for these people.

Edited June 3 by 'stache

[SaucyJack 3522]

43 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Immamac's posts are just another explanation of how "moderate/undecided/disengaged" voters require perfection of any democrat from solely their individual perspective, and if that doesn't happen (which is literally impossible), well I guess I'll just vote for the angry one who says government sucks, or just won't vote because "both sides suck" which usually results in right wingers who do nothing winning elections. There's no solution to that problem for democrats, the majority of American's have full on brain rot, to the fucking core, there is nothing that will ever be enough for these people.

Moderate does not reconcile with Undecided/Disengaged.

I'm posting about "likely" voters.

Edited June 3 by SaucyJack

[Macanudo 13347]

5 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

CHICAGO style guide?  

They put one yours in quotation marks, you put one of theirs in brackets!

[bolverk 30387]

Article from The Atlantic about our NATO allies in Europe getting ready for another Trump Administration (I'd forgotten about Trump labeling the EU our "foe"):

Free Archive link: WHAT EUROPE FEARS: American allies see a second Trump term as all but inevitable. “The anxiety is massive.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2024/06/nato-trump-europe-allies/678533/

[immamac 44423]

4 hours ago, 'stache said:

Immamac's posts are just another explanation of how "moderate/undecided/disengaged" voters require perfection of any democrat from solely their individual perspective, and if that doesn't happen (which is literally impossible), well I guess I'll just vote for the angry one who says government sucks, or just won't vote because "both sides suck" which usually results in right wingers who do nothing winning elections. There's no solution to that problem for democrats, the majority of American's have full on brain rot, to the fucking core, there is nothing that will ever be enough for these people.

I'm none of those things and am easily voting for Biden a second time it's not even a choice. It wouldn't even be a choice if the Republicans chose someone who wasn't trump. 

A lot of you must really like your bubbles because the real world has a lot more of what I'm talking about than here on a politics board where everyone is engaged. 

[atomheartbevo 90692]

[atomheartbevo 90692]

5 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

please let this be real.    I understand that they can’t be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen unless they’re pregnant, but this seems too big and electoral to give us.  The simulation is not that kind.

Thomas has already said the Supreme Court needs to look at the rulings that led to legal birth control, mixed-race marriage, etc.  There's a handful of rulings that legal birth control, mixed-race marriage, birth control being used between non-married adults and being shipped across state lines, homosexual relations, etc. rely upon (think of it as a Jenga tower), and the abortion block was just removed.

[Gatorubet 30803]

22 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

This looks like it could be the cover of that new board game, “GIANT BURLAP SACK, BIG ROCKS, AND WIDE, DEEP RIVER”

[tx 3 putt 78793]

Donald Trump, Candidate For President by The Numbers:

3 marriages
2 Divorces
4 Bankruptcies
2 impeachments
355 million dollars owed for Sexual Abuse
4 indictments
34 Felony Convictions
3 Trials upcoming

The Republican Party's Finest

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20953]

1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

Donald Trump, Candidate For President by The Numbers:

3 marriages
2 Divorces
4 Bankruptcies
2 impeachments
355 million dollars owed for Sexual Abuse
4 indictments
34 Felony Convictions
3 Trials upcoming

The Republican Party's Finest

Six bankruptcies

[TwiceHorn 32118]

Interdasting.  https://www.textise.net/showText.aspx?strURL=https%3A//www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/06/04/opinion/trump-verdict-focus-group.html#site-content

Goddamn, Jonathan.

[South Austin 53282]

40 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Interdasting.  https://www.textise.net/showText.aspx?strURL=https%3A//www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/06/04/opinion/trump-verdict-focus-group.html#site-content

Goddamn, Jonathan.

John is giving Jonathan a run for title of King of the Dipshits.

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Moderator, Frank Luntz

John, how can you be undecided?

John, 58, Pennsylvania, white, customer relations

Well, I would say Biden now is off the table after today, but I think today’s action —

Moderator, Frank Luntz

Biden?

John, 58, Pennsylvania, white, customer relations

— is off the table for me. Yes, Biden.

Hilary, 55, California, white, social worker

Because of the verdict?

John, 58, Pennsylvania, white, customer relations

Yes, because —

Hilary, 55, California, white, social worker

Do you find him a bit culpable for this, in a sense?

John, 58, Pennsylvania, white, customer relations

I think Biden looks ungracious and looks incredibly weak to me. I can envision a scenario where a lot of undecideds who maybe won’t pull the lever for Trump run to Robert Kennedy Jr.

Moderator, Frank Luntz

But I’ve never had someone blame another candidate for the failure of the original candidate. And that’s exactly what you’re doing here.

John, 58, Pennsylvania, white, customer relations

And I was very highly critical of Trump in 2019, and that’s what led to his first impeachment when he was trying to fish after and go after Biden politically. I thought that was a mistake. He lost my vote on that in 2020. But I don’t know. I guess I thought Joe Biden was above this.

Jorge, 52, California, Latino, medical field

I agree with you.

Hilary, 55, California, white, social worker

May I ask — is it based on anything that Joe Biden said after the verdict?

John, 58, Pennsylvania, white, customer relations

I think it’s just a campaign tagline: Trump, convicted felon.

John now won't vote for Biden because he's making a factual statement on the campaign trail that Donald Trump is a convicted felon.  And, of course, if it was the other way around, Trump would be spiking the football at every opportunity.

Edited June 4 by South Austin

[Francisco 2.0 32624]

Here's the gift link for the article that Twice put up, for everyone:

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/06/04/opinion/trump-verdict-focus-group.html?u2g=c&unlocked_article_code=1.xE0.ycJq.zFw0aRkHqMWR&smid=url-share

 

 

Edited June 4 by Francisco 2.0

[LCHorn 2751]

Those NY Times voter interviews can get so ridiculous that they could be mistaken for The Onion.

Edited June 4 by LCHorn

[Francisco 2.0 32624]

11 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

Those NY Times voter interviews can get so ridiculous that they could be mistaken for The Onion.

And yet, there are people among each and every one of us, on this forum, in our communities, in our daily lives that are.....ahem...less intellectual than these people.  And they vote, too.

 

 

Edited June 4 by Francisco 2.0

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

9 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Thomas has already said the Supreme Court needs to look at the rulings that led to legal birth control, mixed-race marriage, etc.  There's a handful of rulings that legal birth control, mixed-race marriage, birth control being used between non-married adults and being shipped across state lines, homosexual relations, etc. rely upon (think of it as a Jenga tower), and the abortion block was just removed.

I think he *didnt* say mixed race. That’s what made it funny.  He said all these substantive due process cases are suspect, listed them out, *somehow* forgot about Loving. 

[Redneck Mutha 8235]

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Ben, 42, Texas, white, college adviser

We’re all regular people with regular jobs. If any of us all did, like, one-thousandth of what this guy did for being on trial, the financial stuff, the forms, the bribes, the meeting with people, we all would have been fired. We all would have been out on our butts, applying for jobs at grocery stores or driving Uber or whatnot. You’re saying it’s all, like, a political theater and farce and whatnot. But he was having an affair with a porn star and not a particularly attractive one at that. There are so many wonderful porn stars out there.

Which one of you is this?

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

9 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

3 Trials upcoming

Are they tho?

[Red Five 41793]

Donald Trump, Candidate For President by The Numbers:
3 marriages
2 Divorces
4 Bankruptcies
2 impeachments
355 million dollars owed for Sexual Abuse
4 indictments
34 Felony Convictions
3 Trials upcoming
The Republican Party's Finest

$454 million owed for fraud.

[Pato del Muerto 53607]

Apparently Trump can’t get a fair trial in Manhattan because the financial capital of the world is all democrats. 

[immamac 44423]

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Interdasting.  https://www.textise.net/showText.aspx?strURL=https%3A//www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/06/04/opinion/trump-verdict-focus-group.html#site-content

Goddamn, Jonathan.

Everyone should read this link it's all text no ads and worth the read. Jonathan is a fucking moron, but this is a reflection of the real world where people haven't really been particularly checked in or completely sold on either candidate. 

Jonathan comparing trump to the sopranos as a guy that does stuff for us so we don't have to is some of the most broken brained shit I've ever read. 

[Brisketexan 107051]

29 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

I think he *didnt* say mixed race. That’s what made it funny.  He said all these substantive due process cases are suspect, listed them out, *somehow* forgot about Loving. 

Correct.  That was the real chef's kiss.  He listed ALL the major SDP cases as "these are bullshit and we should kill them all," but for SOME MYSTERIOUS REASON, left out Loving v. Virginia.

He's a giant hypocritical corrupt piece of shit. He truly is the worst SCOTUS justice we've ever had.

[immamac 44423]

Another thought I had this morning is how in 2024 when computers, social media, electronics and computers in general are dominating society and for the large part industry are we voting on a president between 3 people that don’t have the first fucking clue how any of this works to the point where they have no opinion other than “national security, build chips here and don’t sell them to China” 

this is the biggest glaring hole in the entire thing right now. I want to see Bidens team put together a plan and have him present it in a believable way that he has a basic understanding of what he’s saying. That would be great. 

fucking AI is going crazy and there’s just silence from the people running for office it’s actually hilarious. 
 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/04/29/biden-harris-administration-announces-key-ai-actions-180-days-following-president-bidens-landmark-executive-order/
 

This is pathetic and out of touch. It’s not wrong or bad. I’m not shitting on Biden for doing the wrong things etc I’m saying it’s just a huge missed opportunity that is so obvious and that everyone cares about, yet no soundbites clips or interviews on this. 

[Pancho 46389]

17 hours ago, Js1 said:

 

 

 

[Francisco 2.0 32624]

31 minutes ago, immamac said:

Everyone should read this link it's all text no ads and worth the read. Jonathan is a fucking moron, but this is a reflection of the real world where people haven't really been particularly checked in or completely sold on either candidate. 

Jonathan comparing trump to the sopranos as a guy that does stuff for us so we don't have to is some of the most broken brained shit I've ever read. 

 

Using Tony Soprano as an example of someone that does the dirty work so our hands can stay clean tracks with people that religiously watched The Apprentice for years who have the mindset that "hey, this person knows how to get shit done!  He  has my vote!"

Life imitating art.

 

 

 

[Chuckie Finster 23111]

31 minutes ago, immamac said:

Another thought I had this morning is how in 2024 when computers, social media, electronics and computers in general are dominating society and for the large part industry are we voting on a president between 3 people that don’t have the first fucking clue how any of this works to the point where they have no opinion other than “national security, build chips here and don’t sell them to China” 

this is the biggest glaring hole in the entire thing right now. I want to see Bidens team put together a plan and have him present it in a believable way that he has a basic understanding of what he’s saying. That would be great. 

fucking AI is going crazy and there’s just silence from the people running for office it’s actually hilarious. 
 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/04/29/biden-harris-administration-announces-key-ai-actions-180-days-following-president-bidens-landmark-executive-order/
 

This is pathetic and out of touch. It’s not wrong or bad. I’m not shitting on Biden for doing the wrong things etc I’m saying it’s just a huge missed opportunity that is so obvious and that everyone cares about, yet no soundbites clips or interviews on this. 

If Biden announced a plan to combat AI, 40% of the population would immediately pledge undying loyalty to the new AI overlords.

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[immamac 44423]

5 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

If Biden announced a plan to combat AI, 40% of the population would immediately pledge undying loyalty to the new AI overlords.

What if he simply launched a government plan to teach people the basics of AI in a way that was relevant to their lives? 

What if he just talked about non scary, helpful ways AI has helped him in his job which requires a tremendous amount of data to be given to him? 

[Zonahorn 8079]

Good

[Chuckie Finster 23111]

14 minutes ago, immamac said:

What if he simply launched a government plan to teach people the basics of AI in a way that was relevant to their lives? 

What if he just talked about non scary, helpful ways AI has helped him in his job which requires a tremendous amount of data to be given to him? 

What if Michelle Obama tried to encourage children to eat healthier?

You are bringing sane solutions to an insane country.

[G650 14456]

4 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

You are bringing sane solutions to an insane country.

The best description of the 2016 GOP Primary was describing John Kasich as trying to start an opera club at a tractor pull.

Edited June 4 by G650

[crash_davis 23470]

Saw this on Reddit is am surprised it took me this long to realize it. The Electoral College is Affirmative Action/DEI for Republican presidential candidates. 

[crash_davis 23470]

Seriously would anyone be fucking worried about Trump if it weren't for the Electoral College. The felony fuckstick isn't winning a popular vote, ever.

[immamac 44423]

Just now, crash_davis said:

Seriously would anyone be fucking worried about Trump if it weren't for the Electoral College. The felony fuckstick isn't winning a popular vote, ever.

I just read in the Mexico thread that this is bad and antidemocratic to take away among other things. 

[crash_davis 23470]

1 minute ago, immamac said:

I just read in the Mexico thread that this is bad and antidemocratic to take away among other things. 

I don't give a shit about the Electoral College. It's been the way we vote for Presidents for over 2 centuries. It is what it is. I just find it funny as shit that Republicans are so against AA and DEI but it's because of DEI/AA that their candidates even stand a chance of being elected. 

[Dahobbs 18431]

3 hours ago, Zonahorn said:

Good

That independent number is really good. 

[HRSchenker 2341]

5 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Interdasting.  https://www.textise.net/showText.aspx?strURL=https%3A//www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/06/04/opinion/trump-verdict-focus-group.html#site-content

Goddamn, Jonathan.

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Ben, 42, Texas, white, college adviser
The guy tried to write off his bribe, and OK, maybe it’s not illegal, but he’s supposed to set a freaking example for everyone. And as far as porn stars go for affairs, he could have set a better example for who to have an affair with. But the dude tried to write off a bribe — that doesn’t seem wrong to you in the slightest?

I could not stop laughing when I got to this part! I think the okie lawyer made a joke about Stormy Daniels being ugly too 

[Js1 87311]

7 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

That independent number is really good. 

Swing voters +36 approve of it.  Latinos +36 and AA +61.  Same with young voters +31

All numbers that would probably get Biden a win.  Let's see if it has an actual impact.

[Red Five 41793]

2 hours ago, crash_davis said:

Saw this on Reddit is am surprised it took me this long to realize it. The Electoral College is Affirmative Action/DEI for Republican presidential candidates. 

Can you even imagine what it would look like if the situations were reversed, and we had settled into a system where republicans were almost guaranteed to always get more votes, but the elections were coin flips? This Supreme Court probably would have already tossed out the EC.

[Brisketexan 107051]

4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Swing voters +36 approve of it.  Latinos +36 and AA +61.  Same with young voters +31

All numbers that would probably get Biden a win.  Let's see if it has an actual impact.

I really should find those numbers encouraging.

But I just can't.  Truly, genuinely, I am now completely incapable of optimism.

I will not feel any sense of relief until Trump is dead, buried, and the first 10,000 detractors have pissed on his grave.  And even then, my relief is in the "maybe" column.

There's just such an overwhelming storm tide of stupidity, malfeasance, idiocy, and evil lashing against our shore that I won't believe that anything is left standing until the tide has gone all the way out and the sea is as smooth as glass.

[atomheartbevo 90692]

3 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

If Biden announced a plan to combat AI, 40% of the population would immediately pledge undying loyalty to the new AI overlords.

I just wish that he’d announce that people shouldn’t climb up on their roofs and jump off.

Scratch that, it would just fill the hospitals with MAGA, he needs to tell them not to jump off anything higher than 20 feet in their air.