2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[quigley 1565]

48 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

Not that anyone who reads WaPo needs the editorial page to tell who to vote for, but this is weak and stupid. They pissed off 85% of their readership.

Bezos is acting like he's okay with the paper being a loss leader.

[BrickHorn 18447]

46 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

As someone who a Boy Scout Leader for decades I have a lot of conservative leaning friends.   And the thing I have been grappling with since 2016 is that a lot of them are intelligent and successful…and yet they believe all of the Maga shit Trump/Fox spews even though it’s clearly false and bullshit.

So basically, they are gullible.  I always thought that intelligence was an antidote to gullibility, but it seems they are two distinct species of mental abilities.   With no rational explanation, I’ve finally come to conclude that “gullible” is simply choosing to believe that which you want to believe for your own reasons.   

it really defies explanation.

I think it boils down to the difference between reason and emotion. Our rational capacity is deliberative. It makes decisions based on reasoned analysis of facts.

But it’s slow and rational choices aren’t always good for the real driver of human decision-making (gene propagation). So we also have things like instinct and emotions, which short-circuit our decision making process so that we don’t fuck up by deliberating too long. “Oh, a wife and kids will prevent you from reaching your financial goals on your preferred time table? Too bad. She’s ineffably hot and your balls are shutting down your brain for the next several minutes to make sure your DNA survives you and your smart little plans.” 

Every single brilliant mind is vulnerable to dumbass emotion. We’re human beings, not computers. Politicians appeal to emotion because it’s more powerful than reason. Some of us insist on thinking through policy at a rational level, but emotion is inevitable. (Even many policies we liberals believe are rational are only so in the sense that they tend to favor outcomes that we emotionally prefer.)  

My guess is that your friends indulge their emotional reactions to political issues, responding to things like fear, resentment, aggrievement, etc. They could think through issues logically, but it’s easier to go with their gut feeling. And they probably get a dopamine hit from it, to boot.

[C-Man 27791]

13 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Newspapers need to die. Worthless spineless hacks beholden to revenue and shareholder value rather than journalism. 

They're on their way. I know very few people still in the business but I will tell you that the rank-and-file still in the trenches are every bit the chaser of truth that they've always been. Yes, there are some bad apples in every bunch. The struggle between the ad side and the news side was always real. Publishers tended to be rich folks who galavanted around town with other rich people doing Republican things. The difference is the Republicanism has changed. It's gotten ugly. It's gotten cruel.

I've been saying this since shortly after Trump took office in 2017. His worst lasting legacy -- if he doesn't win re-election and go all fascist on us, destroy American Democracy, etc -- is he has absolutely destroyed any and all trust in legacy media. It's just gone like a fart in the wind. "Fake news" has been beaten into our lexicon and it ain't likely going away in my lifetime. Legacy media was probably our only hope to defeat the ridiculousness that passes as "truth" these days. The shit that is put out there that the GQP/MAGAts believe is simply astounding. (Yes, foreign bad actors are creating a lot of the nonsense but it spreads as gospel by the American moron.)

[BamaATL 16593]

18 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Districts got redrawn after 2020 so might be harder to figure that out 

This is correct, but we do have 2020 voting data on the areas in question.  It ranges a bit, from about 525k to 630k of registered voters.  As to understanding this data, it's something I've hardly looked at of yet (I've been mainly focused on stronghold areas, etc.)  I'll look at taking a deeper dive over the weekend.  I'm particularly interested in GA 7 (R) Rich McCormick (he's a psychopath maga dentist who may or may not have had an affair with MTG).  In 2020 that was an R+11 district.  I don't think we beat him, unfortunately, but I do think it tightens significantly, which would be telling.  

[Js1 87204]

8 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

Small jump from yesterday, no? Hopefully there is a big dump on Monday 

Yeah, end of week mail slowdown. I expect Monday to be a big jump for Friday-Sat-Sunday 

[WBT 20989]

47 minutes ago, G650 said:

Uh, other than those trifling things like tariffs? I would characterize that as earthshaking change for the Republican party. Not even throwing details like pulling us out of, you know, like NAFTA and shit.

We went through the looking glass when Trump attacked Obama/Hillary on the TPP.  And the Ds learned their lesson I guess as Biden did fuckall to walk back any Trump tariffs.  Harris has rightfully attacked Trump a little bit here near the end on the insanity of his latest tariff propsals but the idea of free trade is pretty dead in American politics.

[trythisathome 981]

Just cast my vote for the non-fascists. Disappointingly, but not surprisingly, I was the only person under the age of 30 there. 

[WBT 20989]

11 minutes ago, quigley said:

Bezos is acting like he's okay with the paper being a loss leader.

Was that in doubt?

[hookem2010 2700]

6 minutes ago, trythisathome said:

Just cast my vote for the non-fascists. Disappointingly, but not surprisingly, I was the only person under the age of 30 there. 

Probably the only one here too. We'll, you've got Helo for company, I guess.

[Pancho 46342]

 

[Js1 87204]

Just now, Pancho said:

 

Herding. Would rather it be 50/50 and then be like “well it was a close race and it could have gone either way!!”

[Pancho 46342]

 

[Saint Austin 776]

59 minutes ago, Js1 said:

 

[Js1 87204]

1 minute ago, Pancho said:

 

So the people losing their shit about registrations were bamboozled by fraud 

[SmokeyTheBear 5569]

Over an hour wait in line but I put my "fuck you" to team Trump

[High Plains Drifter 11192]

22 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Don't worry gang! Trump is making plans to attend Ohio St at Penn St football game! 

 

Meteor!!

 

Also acceptable: Giant Sinkhole!!

 

 

[BurntOrange&White 41935]

18 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Speaking of CNN.....WHERE THE FUCK IS JOHN KING AND HIS MAPS!

[Red Five 41755]

There is a sign next to the stage at the upcoming Dotard Hate Rally that just says "Deport Illegals Now". 

I know running on hate and fear isn't anything new, but they used to disguise it a little better. If the election had a few more months in it we might get to a point where we see "Get Rid of All Brown people" signs. 

[TexasEd 8266]

1 hour ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

Insurance company told them what their rates would be if they got a bomb threat.

 

40 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

This sounds like a MAGA dipshit got asked to put on a jacket and refused so he assaulted a poll worker

 

 

SAN ANTONIO – An elections clerk was assaulted during an incident at a polling location, according to Bexar County Elections Administrator Jacque Callanen.

Elections officials confirmed the assault happened at the Johnston Branch Library at 6307 Sun Valley Drive, one of 51 polling locations open during the early voting period in Bexar County.

Details on what led to the assault were not released by Callanen during a news conference on Friday morning. She said the investigation is ongoing.

The assault happened on Thursday evening, and the clerk received treatment by Emergency Medical Services at the location before the clerk was released, Callanen said.

On Thursday, 896 ballots were cast at the site. Callanen said the polling location is open Friday for early voting.

Early voting started on Monday, and so far, 191,362 votes have been cast in Bexar County, according to numbers from the Bexar County elections office.

On Thursday, the fourth day of early voting, Bexar County polling locations had the highest number of ballots cast so far: 48,653 ballots cast.

Callanen said “our poll sites are safe” and asked people to pack patience and be prepared.

During a news conference on Thursday, Callanen reminded voters that they cannot wear campaign paraphernalia to the voting booth, such as a shirt, hat, button, or swag.

She said some of the election judges will take jackets to polling sites for voters to wear in case people are wearing a shirt that features a particular candidate. Callanen said that some voters will be asked to go to the bathroom and turn the shirt inside out or even tape a sample ballot to the front of their shirt.

“You may see some voters that aren’t happy ... but we need to remain within the law so that no one is intimidated and everyone can come and vote freely,” Callanen said.

She also said that voters cannot discuss political preferences while waiting in line to vote.

Registered voters in Bexar County can vote at any polling site during the early voting period and Election Day. Early voting ends Nov. 1, and Election Day is Nov. 5.

My bet is he was wearing a stupid hat.

[BurntOrange&White 41935]

This is probably not the thread but fuck it....

 

Is that Ben Mostyn guy running for state rep a maga dipshit that supports vouchers?

[Fudge Nuggets 19462]

3 hours ago, locodos said:

csb: Was in the Athens airport…

Not really.

[Pato del Muerto 53542]

19 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Those damn Amish. Probably didn’t answer their cell phones either to clear it up. 

[Guadaloopy 11137]

4 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

Meteor!!

 

Also acceptable: Giant Sinkhole!!

 

 

[BamaATL 16593]

Just now, Pato del Muerto said:

Those damn Amish. Probably didn’t answer their cell phones either to clear it up. 

[Brian Fantana 6870]

27 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

[TexasEd 8266]

45 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

I think it boils down to the difference between reason and emotion. Our rational capacity is deliberative. It makes decisions based on reasoned analysis of facts.

But it’s slow and rational choices aren’t always good for the real driver of human decision-making (gene propagation). So we also have things like instinct and emotions, which short-circuit our decision making process so that we don’t fuck up by deliberating too long. “Oh, a wife and kids will prevent you from reaching your financial goals on your preferred time table? Too bad. She’s ineffably hot and your balls are shutting down your brain for the next several minutes to make sure your DNA survives you and your smart little plans.” 

Every single brilliant mind is vulnerable to dumbass emotion. We’re human beings, not computers. Politicians appeal to emotion because it’s more powerful than reason. Some of us insist on thinking through policy at a rational level, but emotion is inevitable. (Even many policies we liberals believe are rational are only so in the sense that they tend to favor outcomes that we emotionally prefer.)  

My guess is that your friends indulge their emotional reactions to political issues, responding to things like fear, resentment, aggrievement, etc. They could think through issues logically, but it’s easier to go with their gut feeling. And they probably get a dopamine hit from it, to boot.

Sheldon Cooper (I know he's a fictional character)

[Nice Guy Eddie 13739]

49 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

This sounds like a MAGA dipshit got asked to put on a jacket and refused so he assaulted a poll worker

 

 

SAN ANTONIO – An elections clerk was assaulted during an incident at a polling location, according to Bexar County Elections Administrator Jacque Callanen.

Elections officials confirmed the assault happened at the Johnston Branch Library at 6307 Sun Valley Drive, one of 51 polling locations open during the early voting period in Bexar County.

Details on what led to the assault were not released by Callanen during a news conference on Friday morning. She said the investigation is ongoing.

The assault happened on Thursday evening, and the clerk received treatment by Emergency Medical Services at the location before the clerk was released, Callanen said.

On Thursday, 896 ballots were cast at the site. Callanen said the polling location is open Friday for early voting.

Early voting started on Monday, and so far, 191,362 votes have been cast in Bexar County, according to numbers from the Bexar County elections office.

On Thursday, the fourth day of early voting, Bexar County polling locations had the highest number of ballots cast so far: 48,653 ballots cast.

Callanen said “our poll sites are safe” and asked people to pack patience and be prepared.

During a news conference on Thursday, Callanen reminded voters that they cannot wear campaign paraphernalia to the voting booth, such as a shirt, hat, button, or swag.

She said some of the election judges will take jackets to polling sites for voters to wear in case people are wearing a shirt that features a particular candidate. Callanen said that some voters will be asked to go to the bathroom and turn the shirt inside out or even tape a sample ballot to the front of their shirt.

“You may see some voters that aren’t happy ... but we need to remain within the law so that no one is intimidated and everyone can come and vote freely,” Callanen said.

She also said that voters cannot discuss political preferences while waiting in line to vote.

Registered voters in Bexar County can vote at any polling site during the early voting period and Election Day. Early voting ends Nov. 1, and Election Day is Nov. 5.

While it's nice of the election judges to bring jackets for voters to put over their tshirts, f that. There should be a sign out front that says no campaign tshirt, etc., and willfully ignoring that law will result in your arrest. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26869]

48 minutes ago, quigley said:

Bezos is acting like he's okay with the paper being a loss leader.

You’re familiar with Amazon’s business model, right?

[C-Man 27791]

25 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

First response:

 

[chainsaw 10298]

14 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Speaking of CNN.....WHERE THE FUCK IS JOHN KING AND HIS MAPS!

they replaced him with that italian guy

[Bullneck 19543]

Seriously, how can you not like these guys?!

 

 

[Redneck Mutha 8192]

5 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

While it's nice of the election judges to bring jackets for voters to put over their tshirts, f that. There should be a sign out front that says no campaign tshirt, etc., and willfully ignoring that law will result in your arrest. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13739]

My annual Washpo subscription was up in mid November. I had previously decided to keep it until today’s news. Just cancelled it.

[Guadaloopy 11137]

6 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

While it's nice of the election judges to bring jackets for voters to put over their tshirts, f that. There should be a sign out front that says no campaign tshirt, etc., and willfully ignoring that law will result in your arrest. 

So you're saying I can't wear my Ewers/Bond '24 t-shirt to the polls? 

[wood 11766]

2 hours ago, Pancho said:

 

Why do you do this? You haven’t posted in this thread really at all and then all of a sudden you come in thread shitting left and right. Did you just need the attention? 

[wood 11766]

2 hours ago, Snake Diggity said:

I expected to go differently as well.  Kudos to the piece of shit Trumper for not escalating it further.  Although it’s probably too much to ask to expect him to have actually thought about what I said.

That POS wasn't gonna do shit.As soon as you call 'em on their bs, they tuck tail like the pussies they are,  just like the chick earlier in the thread who tweeted about Obama being executed on PPV.

[Bullneck 19543]

38 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Anyone care to decipher the "unroll" from above?  Bueller?  @js1?

Wish I could figure out how to embed the six or seven posts between ^^^ and the one below.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[wood 11766]

2 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

Last election, I overheard a guy talking voluably about some such conspiracy believed by the idiots who vote MAGA. I pursed my lips and looked at the ceiling. Politeness and outrage fight it out inside me. 

He's comfortable assuming such utterances are acceptable in the voting line. It's not a social gathering, so my silence doesn't mean affirmation. Still, why should the yokel go unchecked? I stayed quiet, but I do struggle with that stuff. 

My experience is different than yours. You were clearly correct. My own polite silence frays.

Sounds a lot like me. I can remain silent through a fair amount of bullshit, but once I'm pissed off enough, my response will not be polite by any stretch.

Edited October 25 by wood

[shakahorn 1659]

27 minutes ago, Red Five said:

There is a sign next to the stage at the upcoming Dotard Hate Rally that just says "Deport Illegals Now". 

I know running on hate and fear isn't anything new, but they used to disguise it a little better. If the election had a few more months in it we might get to a point where we see "Get Rid of All Brown people" signs. 

Well, anyone who puts a second of thought into it, realizes that's what today's sign really says.

[Bullneck 19543]

1 hour ago, RDCanecutter said:

Well, one of the easiest ways to make money is buying stuff cheap after the market crashes.

I don't know if you're kidding or not, but yeah, that's exactly what the oligarchy is thinking. 

Imagine a fire sale for anything and everything and you don't have to pay taxes.  What's not to like?

[TexasEd 8266]

WTH Is this cryptic Lancaster PA voter registration thing saying?

[Js1 87204]

1 minute ago, TexasEd said:

WTH Is this cryptic Lancaster PA voter registration thing saying?

They made them up. Fraudulent registrations. They were probably going to submit fraudulent ballots using those names 

[locodos 5592]

29 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Not really.

Not Athens Ga...  so damn sensitive

[fuggled 576]

3 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

WTH Is this cryptic Lancaster PA voter registration thing saying?

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/25/nx-s1-5165382/lancaster-county-voter-registration-fraud

Quote

Officials in Lancaster County in the swing state of Pennsylvania say they identified hundreds of potentially fraudulent voter registration applications.

"Suspected fraudulent voter registration forms were dropped off at the Board of Elections Office in two batches at or near the deadline for submission," the board said in a statement on Friday. "There are approximately 2,500 voter registration applications total in these two batches."

In its statement, the board stressed that county elections are secure and that flagging the potential fraud indicates the "systems worked." Republican-leaning Lancaster County has more than 360,000 registered voters.

 

[Pato del Muerto 53542]

1 minute ago, locodos said:

Not Athens Ga...  so damn sensitive

Athens,  TX?

[Brisketexan 106947]

1 hour ago, 6th Street said:

Bezos clearly afraid of Trump seeking retribution  

We are definitely seeing this: rich/powerful/vengeful figures are telling outlets what to do, and/or threatening them (either directly or via stochastic terrorism).  As a result, they are staying out of it, or outright putting their thumbs on the scale to favor Dotard.

We are a nation of abject cowards.  Pathetic, spineless fucks who don't deserve the Constitution they cower behind.  "Champions of the First Amendment" MY ASS.  The NYT, WAPO, CNN -- every fucking one of them is kowtowing to the nazis because they are afraid of what the nazis will do when they take power.  How about you do what Americans used to do back when we had fucking SPINES: tell the nazis to fuck off so they DON'T COME TO POWER.

God.  I hate them all.  Sure, I hate nazis, but I think I hate their enablers even more.  Because "I don't hate mexicans/jews/gays....I'm just okay if they suffer brutally in exchange for me continuing to profit" is pure fucking evil.

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

But see, you're begging the question. I don't acccept the premise that they were in fact protecting corporate interests. I think there were and are specific interests associated with specific people that benefitted, and I'm sure to some people that looks like being pro-business or pro-capitalism, but it's not. 
The greatest danger to capitalism is not socialism, but rent-seeking. The greatest danger to American business is not overregulation but regulatory capture. 

SO much this.

"Conservatives" : "Don't put your thumb on the scales by doing anything that helps poor people!  If you don't earn it fair and square, you shouldn't get it!"

[Conservative politicians  putting their thumb on the scales by delivering policies that reward rent-seeking and provide regulatory capture for huge campaign contributors], "Conservatives":

Edited October 25 by Brisketexan

[bluto 4999]

Oh man I hope scott pressler goes to prison for that PA fraud, god I hope so much. 

[henrygandorf 29228]

3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

We are definitely seeing this: rich/powerful/vengeful figures are telling outlets what to do, and/or threatening them (either directly or via stochastic terrorism).  As a result, they are staying out of it, or outright putting their thumbs on the scale to favor Dotard.

the issue is that staying out of it (when you never have before) is putting their thumbs on the scale. a non-endorsement is a tacit endorsement of trump. especially if everyone is expecting them to endorse kamala. he's been completely normalized and the damage is done.

it's kinda like when pete rose said he never bet against his own team. right. well when you bet on your own team 3 days in a row, then the 4th day you don't bet on the game at all, then what's the fucking difference?

[locodos 5592]

6 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Athens,  TX?

I did wonder what all the fuss was about 

[Brisketexan 106947]

1 minute ago, bluto said:

Oh man I hope scott pressler goes to prison for that PA fraud, god I hope so much. 

Whatever the case, we're up to exhibit infinity+double infinity in the case of "every accusation is a confession."

Bottom line, over the past decade, functionally EVERY example of anything approaching systemic voter/election fraud or attempts at same.....has been by MAGAs.  

What a brilliant strategy.  Go out and commit rampant crimes so you can run of a platform of "See!  Crime is up!  Vote for me to stop crime!"

I hate them all.  So, so much.  They are literally at war against the Republic.  We should treat them as such.