Measles

Samson's Wig · January 26

41 minutes ago, EastHorn said:

Yikes. Neither one of those cities has a hospital you want to be in.

Presbyterian in ABQ is about as good as anything we have in Austin. I know that's not saying much.

crash_davis · February 5

Idiots cannot help themselves.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/measles-outbreaks-anti-vaccine-misinformation-rcna136994

“The truth is, measles is not a super severe serious illness when you’re a child,” Mary Holland, president of the country’s best-funded anti-vaccine organization, Children’s Health Defense, said last week on the group’s online morning show. Children’s Health Defense was founded by Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who took a leave from the organization in April to run for president.

Holland, a lawyer, called government responses to recent outbreaks “fearmongering” and “crying wolf.”

“It’s a couple days of spots and then you move on,” she said.

Mother and wellness influencers with tens of thousands of followers on Instagram have reacted to the recent outbreaks with posts warning their audience not to buy into the hype. “As the news tries to fear-monger about the measles ‘outbreak,’” one home birth advocate posted, “remember that the vaccine is more dangerous than the actual illness.” (This is false.)

Other mom influencers posted memes tapping into nostalgia for a time when some parents intentionally exposed their young children to measles, mumps and rubella with “parties,” as the diseases were considered serious, but less harmful for young children. These planned contaminations largely ended with the availability of vaccines, which offered the preferable opportunity to avoid the diseases in childhood and beyond.

Samson's Wig · February 5

28 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

Idiots cannot help themselves.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/measles-outbreaks-anti-vaccine-misinformation-rcna136994

“The truth is, measles is not a super severe serious illness when you’re a child,” Mary Holland, president of the country’s best-funded anti-vaccine organization, Children’s Health Defense, said last week on the group’s online morning show. Children’s Health Defense was founded by Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who took a leave from the organization in April to run for president.

Holland, a lawyer, called government responses to recent outbreaks “fearmongering” and “crying wolf.”

“It’s a couple days of spots and then you move on,” she said.

Mother and wellness influencers with tens of thousands of followers on Instagram have reacted to the recent outbreaks with posts warning their audience not to buy into the hype. “As the news tries to fear-monger about the measles ‘outbreak,’” one home birth advocate posted, “remember that the vaccine is more dangerous than the actual illness.” (This is false.)

Other mom influencers posted memes tapping into nostalgia for a time when some parents intentionally exposed their young children to measles, mumps and rubella with “parties,” as the diseases were considered serious, but less harmful for young children. These planned contaminations largely ended with the availability of vaccines, which offered the preferable opportunity to avoid the diseases in childhood and beyond.

What I'm gathering from this is that moms are stupid and maybe we shouldn't listen to them. Children everywhere should take note and rejoice.

Mrs Whiggins · February 25

When we were discussing pockets of vulnerability to disease, the comments about children being the victims of their parents' ignorance/stupidity/stubbornness. But what if the health official decides to defer to parents so as to deflect blame (transmission vs quarantine and miss learning opportunities)?

Such is the case in Florida where state health official Joseph Ladapo sent a letter to parents at an elementary school in Broward county, Florida after measles was confirmed among the school population.

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“Due to the high immunity rate in the community, as well as the burden on families and educational cost of healthy children missing school, DOH is deferring to parents or guardians to make decisions about school attendance.”

The letter said that parents should watch for symptoms of measles — high fever, rash, red, watery eyes — but did not encourage vaccination. (quote from NBC News) Nationwide, measles cases are creeping up--35 thus far. The number may not seem like many, especially after watching the COVID pandemic case counts skyrocket, but officials are not being alarmist by urging vaccination with the MMR inoculation. (Various news accounts stated that the campus MMR rate was at or around 97% with 33 students unvaccinated out of ~1000.)

After Ladapo's letter was sent out, health officials confirmed a seventh case in the area, a child under age 5. Therein lies the danger, very young children are often not fully protected and are the ones who suffer the most with this disease.

Many parents are not going to be weighing the educational cost as much as the 'inconvenience' and 'financial' cost (admittedly for many families the financial cost is THE most pressing) and will easily ignore symptoms until an actual diagnosis.

Hopefully, with the higher immunization rate (97%), the disease will peter out on campus; guess they'll find out.

atomheartbevo · February 25

The dumbest fucking people.

MonkeyDoughnut · February 25

Real victims are the kids with weak immune systems who CAN'T get the vaccine having other people playing Russian roulette with their health.

boilerhorn · February 25

On 1/25/2024 at 3:15 PM, Mrs Whiggins said:

Travis County is at 90.37%. Austin ISD specifically is at 87.69%. Austin Waldorf is 75%.

Surveying the Travis and nearby data for MMD is interesting. I bolded anything under 90%. I am honestly surprised at how low - especially for a large ISD - Austin is. It would be interesting to see a breakout by school.

Some highlights:
Austin Waldorf: 75%
Austin ISD: 87.7%
Austin Montessori: 100%
Del Valle ISD: 94%
Dripping Springs ISD: 95.6%
Eanes: 96.6%
Hill Country Christian: 96.4%
Lake Travis ISD: 92.4%
Manor ISD: 96.5%
Pflugerville ISD: 99.9%
Regents School of Austin: 85%
Round Rock ISD: 96.1%
St Andrews: 100%
Texas Empowerment Academy: 54.8%
UT Austin Charter School: 86%
Veritas Academy: 62%

locodos · February 25

I had a run in with an Anti-vax idiot a few years ago. I asked her to tell me everything she knew about Measles. It turns out she didn't know jack shit, she just stammered for ~ 15 seconds about how it's not that dangerous. Defiant and uninformed.

FYI here is some new-ish information about just how shitty the Measles can be even if you have a mild case. TL/DR Measles wipes your previously acquired immunities. So that's fun and perhaps deadly for kids.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20211112-the-people-with-immune-amnesia

Mrs Whiggins · February 25

2 hours ago, locodos said:

I had a run in with an Anti-vax idiot a few years ago. I asked her to tell me everything she knew about Measles. It turns out she didn't know jack shit, she just stammered for ~ 15 seconds about how it's not that dangerous. Defiant and uninformed.

FYI here is some new-ish information about just how shitty the Measles can be even if you have a mild case. TL/DR Measles wipes your previously acquired immunities. So that's fun and perhaps deadly for kids.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20211112-the-people-with-immune-amnesia

One of my early jobs straight out of school was for a small company that offered both digital and old school (ink) print materials. Most of the jobs were for business cards or web stuff where customers didn't have in-house capabilities but the owners had lived in the city for a long time and had a large network. As a service, they would give very deep discounts to certain nonprofit organizations and there was this one guy that would come in to have his newsletter designed, mocked up, and printed. He was so nice but often in very poor health. His organization was a post-polio syndrome group and he used to say he was one of the luckier ones. I understood what he meant and when my children were born, they were inoculated for the major diseases plus chicken pox (which I actually had suffered from, along with the shingles later--ugh).

Mrs Whiggins · February 25

3 hours ago, boilerhorn said:

Surveying the Travis and nearby data for MMD is interesting. I bolded anything under 90%. I am honestly surprised at how low - especially for a large ISD - Austin is. It would be interesting to see a breakout by school.

Some highlights:
Austin Waldorf: 75%
Austin ISD: 87.7%
Austin Montessori: 100%
Del Valle ISD: 94%
Dripping Springs ISD: 95.6%
Eanes: 96.6%
Hill Country Christian: 96.4%
Lake Travis ISD: 92.4%
Manor ISD: 96.5%
Pflugerville ISD: 99.9%
Regents School of Austin: 85%
Round Rock ISD: 96.1%
St Andrews: 100%
Texas Empowerment Academy: 54.8%
UT Austin Charter School: 86%
Veritas Academy: 62%

At one point, I thought one could locate data per campus but I may be getting that mixed up with something else. I do understand that with some schools, the population is so small that a kindergarten class may only have 10 students, thus if only five have received the MMR vaccine then that is 50% but it's data that parents really should consider if measles is making a comeback.

Here are some more highlights from the Texas DHS numbers to add to yours; MMR stats only.

These numbers are from the 7th grade snapshot of the districts you listed above just to see how the percentages look for the older cohort. Fewer schools with below 90% in this group, but it remains to be seen if the younger groups will eventually get vaccinated or if this is the trend (of no shots) becoming more and more prevalent.

Austin Waldorf: 75%; 7th grade: 58.62%
Austin ISD: 87.7%; 7th grade: 99.84%
Austin Montessori: 100%; 7th grade: 91.67%
Del Valle ISD: 94%; 7th grade: 99.38%
Dripping Springs ISD: 95.6%; 7th grade: 95.55%
Eanes: 96.6%; 7th grade: 97.96%
Hill Country Christian: 96.4%; 7th grade: 92.16%
Lake Travis ISD: 92.4%; 7th grade: 95.39%
Manor ISD: 96.5% 7th grade: 98.63%
Pflugerville ISD: 99.9%; 7th grade: 99.90%
Regents School of Austin: 85%; 7th grade: 91.21%
Round Rock ISD: 96.1%; 7th grade: 97.04%
St Andrews: 100%; 7th grade: 100%
Texas Empowerment Academy: 54.8%; 7th grade: 88.89%
UT Austin Charter School: 86% 7th grade: did not see listed.
Veritas Academy: 62%; 7th grade: 86.67%

Acton Academy Northwest Austin: 60% I added this school's kindergarten data because this company/school across the state has very poor MMR coverage for all of the cities in which they're located.

Bethany Christian School of Plano (Collin County) has the distinction of 25% of its Kindergarten students being innoculated. Collin County is ~94% coverage, so it's not spread across the county, but yikes.

Neonmoon · February 25

measles is bad

https://asm.org/articles/2019/may/measles-and-immune-amnesia

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Perhaps the best-known characteristic of measles is its extreme contagiousness. The measles virus (MV), a single-stranded (-)RNA virus that belongs to the genus morbillivirus, has only 1 natural host: humans. MV is extremely transmissible by aerosol droplets; in a room full of exposed people, 90% who are unvaccinated will develop the disease. To complicate matters, this microbe can linger in the air for up to 2 hours.

Infected individuals show symptoms 10-12 days after exposure, including fever, cough, runny nose, watery eyes, Koplik spots and rash. Typically, measles infection is self-limiting and requires nothing more than palliative care to treat these symptoms. Immune-mediated clearance of the virus results in recovery and life-long immunity to the disease.

More serious complications such as pneumonia, encephalitis and even death can occur during acute infection. Statistics show that 2-3 out of every 1000 cases will result in brain damage or death. In 2017 alone, the WHO estimated that measles and its related secondary infections were responsible for approximately 110,000 deaths worldwide. Most of these were in children less than 5 years of age.

One of the most unique—and most dangerous—features of measles pathogenesis is its ability to reset the immune systems of infected patients. During the acute phase of infection, measles induces immune suppression through a process called immune amnesia. Studies in non-human primates revealed that MV actually replaces the old memory cells of its host with new, MV-specific lymphocytes. As a result, the patient emerges with both a strong MV-specific immunity and an increased vulnerability to all other pathogens.

Many pathogens suppress immune function; the influenza virus damages airway epithelial cells and increases patient susceptibility to pneumonia-causing bacterial species. However, the ability to destroy immunological memory and replace memory lymphocytes is unique to MV. This MV-specific phenomenon raises a number of questions:

How is immune amnesia accomplished?

How long does the amnesia last?

What can be done to correct or prevent the problem?

MV causes infection by fusing with the plasma membranes of host cells in a receptor-dependent manner. When MV enters the respiratory tract, it infects alveolar macrophages in the lungs first. The primary role of these specialized immune cells is to engulf and destroy foreign substances like dust, bacteria, and viral particles. Alveolar macrophages also possess a membrane glycoprotein called Signaling Lymphhocytic Activation Molecule (SLAM) that has been identified as the high affinity cellular receptor for MV. MV uses SLAM to fuse directly with the plasma membrane, bypass destructive phagocytosis, and release its genome and replication machinery directly into the cell cytoplasm. Instead of destroying the measles virus upon contact, hijacked macrophages transport viral copies straight to the closest lymph nodes for dissemination.

Infected macrophages travel to lymph tissue, where the virus comes in contact with the memory cells of the immune system (memory T-cells and B-cells). These lymphocytes are recon strategists. They identify foreign invaders through antigen detection and process these molecular patterns to generate long-lived memory cells for future protection. If a second encounter occurs, memory cells will mount a faster and stronger immune response to that pathogen than during the first encounter.

Memory T-cells and B-cells contain SLAM surface receptors as well. Research has shown that MV binds and infects memory T-cells, memory B-cells, and naive B-cells of the immune system. Once infection is established, the virus spreads through the body by budding from infected cells. Clearance of MV requires the elimination of virally-infected lymphocytes. Immune-mediated destruction of memory T cells and B cells is initiated, and memories of past infections are destroyed along with them.

The number of T cells and B cells significantly decreases during the acute stage of measles infection, but there is a rapid return to normal WBC levels after the virus is cleared from the system. This observation masked what was really going on until researchers were able to evaluate the qualitative composition of recovered lymphocyte populations. We now know that the memory T-cells and B-cells that are produced immediately following infection are dramatically different from those that existed before the measles infection. Not only have pre-existing immune memory cells been erased, but there has been a massive production of new lymphocytes. And these have only one memory. Measles. Thus, the host is left totally immune to MV and significantly vulnerable to all other secondary infections. But for how long?

How Long Does the Amnesia Last?

Michael Mina and colleagues at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia, developed a statistical model to analyze the duration of measles-induced immune suppression in children. Examination of child mortality rates in the U.S., U.K., and Denmark in the decades before and after the introduction of the measles vaccine revealed that nearly half of all childhood deaths from infectious disease could be related to MV infection when the disease was prevalent. That means infections other than measles resulted in death, due to the MV effect on the immune system.

Furthermore, it was determined that it takes approximately 2-3 years post-measles infection for protective immune memory to be restored. The average duration of measles-induced immune amnesia was 27 months in all 3 countries. Corresponding evidence indicates that it may take up to 5 years for children to develop healthy immune systems even in the absence of the immune suppressing effects of MV infection. If MV infection essentially resets a child’s developing immunity to that of a newborn, re-vaccination or exposure to all previously encountered microbes will be required in order to rebuild proper immune function.

Fortunately, the measles vaccine is highly effective at protecting against not only MV but also many of the opportunistic pathogens that are eager to take advantage of measles-induced immune amnesia. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine is 97% effective at preventing measles after 2 doses, and widespread vaccination has led to a greater than 99% reduction in disease in the U.S.

Measles continues to be one of the most highly contagious diseases in the world. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported 1,274 individual cases in the U.S. from Jan. 1-Dec. 31, 2019. Outbreaks of this magnitude had not been seen since the Vaccines for Children (VFC) program was initiated 25 years prior, and the subsequent absence of continuous disease transmission in the U.S. for 12+ months declared measles eliminated in the year 2000.

Although the 2019 outbreak eventually stabalized, cases have once again begin to pop up across the U.S. Lack of vaccination and acquired immunity, as well as international travel, are all contributing factors to the current state of affairs.

Altogether, the situation is generating a lot of discussion about our collective and individual susceptibilities to measles infection. Fortunately, vaccination not only prevents the spread of measles, but also reduces the impact of immune amnesia and the subsequent secondary infections that are associated with this MV-specific phenomenon.

956 Worldwide · February 25

40 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

measles is bad

https://asm.org/articles/2019/may/measles-and-immune-amnesia

Welcome to the kakistocracy.

EastHorn · February 26

On 2/5/2024 at 11:47 AM, crash_davis said:

Idiots cannot help themselves.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/measles-outbreaks-anti-vaccine-misinformation-rcna136994

“The truth is, measles is not a super severe serious illness when you’re a child,” Mary Holland, president of the country’s best-funded anti-vaccine organization, Children’s Health Defense, said last week on the group’s online morning show. Children’s Health Defense was founded by Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who took a leave from the organization in April to run for president.

Holland, a lawyer, called government responses to recent outbreaks “fearmongering” and “crying wolf.”

“It’s a couple days of spots and then you move on,” she said.

Mother and wellness influencers with tens of thousands of followers on Instagram have reacted to the recent outbreaks with posts warning their audience not to buy into the hype. “As the news tries to fear-monger about the measles ‘outbreak,’” one home birth advocate posted, “remember that the vaccine is more dangerous than the actual illness.” (This is false.)

Other mom influencers posted memes tapping into nostalgia for a time when some parents intentionally exposed their young children to measles, mumps and rubella with “parties,” as the diseases were considered serious, but less harmful for young children. These planned contaminations largely ended with the availability of vaccines, which offered the preferable opportunity to avoid the diseases in childhood and beyond.

I mean I always go back to a conversation I had with an ID attending in residency. We were talking about how I was the last generation or so to have “chicken pox” parties as there was no vaccine and so everyone took their turn getting it.

He had plenty of examples of kids over the years with rare neurologic complications that are lifelong. While yes the total number in a population or large city I was in is small, it does highlight the morbidity (that is lifelong) you risk with that practice. A practice that was normal and even encouraged. I think the anti vax crowd doesn’t get that. Again as with COVID I just wish people could see the pain this causes and be more empathetic or open minded or smart.

Brisketexan · February 26

3 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

measles is bad

https://asm.org/articles/2019/may/measles-and-immune-amnesia

Whatever - suck it, libtard.

Mrs Whiggins · February 26

Aaaand Florida just had another case pop up. Let's hope that this is the last one from that cluster before the spring vacation travel begins.

The Ace of Aces · February 26

Fuck any and all anti-vaxxers

Herbie Hancock · February 26

Fuck any and all anti-vaxxers

This is the kind of talk that will make Numbers reappear.

Bevo · February 26

22 minutes ago, Herbie Hancock said:

This is the kind of talk that will make Numbers reappear.

Was that the one before Tricky Mickeys or was that one of the Houston bars on Westheimer? Maybe it was Papers before Tricky Mickeys. My memory is kind of fading after all these vaccines.

Edited February 26 by Bevo

Herbie Hancock · February 26

Neither. Numbers is the deranged lunatic that thought vaccines gave his kid autism. Or was that Swam?

Mrs Whiggins · February 28

Florida has a total of ten cases as of today. Nine in the county of the initial first report and one in another county by an individual (adult) who was traveling internationally.

GreenspointTexas · February 29

Wife said Texas Childrens has 5 measles patients currently. The most at one time in the hospital since she began working there in 2009

Mrs Whiggins · February 29

Hmm, I haven't seen that in the news yet. That's not great.

Mrs Whiggins · March 2

CDC report as of 2/29 has 41 cases across 16 states. Texas is not listed as one of the states, so I would be interested to know if the cases at Texas Childrens are confirmed and if so, why the CDC has not got them listed.

bolverk · March 3

On 2/26/2024 at 7:00 AM, Herbie Hancock said:

Neither. Numbers is the deranged lunatic that thought vaccines gave his kid autism. Or was that Swam?

Yeah, that was Numbers.

Measles outbreak in the UK and Europe.

Cases of measles, a highly contagious but easily preventable disease, have begun to crop up in clusters as the number of children getting the combined measles, mumps and rubella vaccine has declined globally. The trend worsened after the coronavirus pandemic because of a lack of access and hesitancy among some groups. The measles virus can cause serious illness and, in the most extreme cases, death.

Across Europe, measles cases rose more than 40-fold in 2023 compared with a year earlier — from less than 1,000 to more than 40,000 — according to the World Health Organization. And while much of that increase was concentrated in lower-income nations like Kazakhstan, more prosperous nations, where higher vaccination rates had long made cases measles rare, are also experiencing worrying outbreaks.

In Britain, 650 cases of measles were confirmed between Oct. 1 and the end of February, according to the U.K. Health Security Agency, which declared a national incident in January. The rise in cases was initially driven by an outbreak in the West Midlands, but it has spread elsewhere around the country. Most of the cases in Britain are in children under 10.

ROFL BOX · March 6

Having been a 25 year resident of Broward County (Fort Lauderdale & adjacent cities), this outbreak hits close to home where I have lots of connections that live within 5 miles of this particular outbreak.

& Where in the Bible does it mention vaccines? This "religious exemption" bullshit is asinine.

Edited March 6 by ROFL BOX

Mrs Whiggins · March 6

In Michigan, health officials are scrambling due to two adults with confirmed measles diagnoses visited several facilities attempting to get treatment. The contact tracing at the health facilities was somewhat easier due to visitors usually checking in with name and other information, but the adults also visited a CVS as well and thus everyone is crossing fingers that more cases don't crop up there.

Here is a letter to the editor in the Tampa Bay times from a 92 year old reader who had the measles long ago:

https://www.tampabay.com/opinion/2024/03/06/i-had-measles-86-years-ago-dr-ladapo-heres-what-my-life-has-been-like-letters/

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The misery of measles

Measles? Perfect as we revert back to the ‘50s. | Column, Feb. 28

I am 92 years old, and for 86 of those years I have struggled to see and hear following a severe case of measles when I was 6. I am deaf in one ear, the other ear was damaged, and I have diminished sight in one eye. It also affected my balance, and I have always to be careful that I don’t fall down, or in or over something. (I should have bought stock in Band-Aids.) I am a retired university professor with a big family so I have persevered, but it hasn’t been easy. Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo’s advice to parents about unvaccinated kids going to school in a measles outbreak is stunningly stupid and amazingly wrong.

Samson's Wig · March 6

People suck. Damn.

If you're going to opt out of a proven and harmless measure to protect yourself, at least have the decency to wander off into the woods and die with a shred of dignity. Wandering aimlessly around medical facilities looking for help while putting others at risk when you rejected the most clear cut method of preventing the problem in the first place should be criminal. FAFO

crash_davis · April 22

This is what happens when the majority of the US who were C average students vote fellow dipshits into office.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/04/new-hampshire-republicans-polio-mmr-measles-vaccine-antivax-bill/

New Hampshire could soon beat Florida—known for its anti-vaccine Surgeon General—when it comes to loosening vaccine requirements. A first-in-the-nation bill that’s already passed New Hampshire’s state House, sponsored only by Republican legislators, would end the requirement for parents enrolling kids in childcare to provide documentation of polio and measles vaccination. New Hampshire would be the only state in the US to have such a law, although many states allow religious exemptions to vaccine requirements.

Currently, Republicans control New Hampshire’s state House, Senate and governor’s office—but that isn’t a guarantee that the bill will be signed into law, with GOP Gov.

Mrs Whiggins · April 22

Worried about fertility and a declining birth rate? Hey, let's expose children to illnesses that can kill or maim them!

Frank Drebin · April 22

22 minutes ago, Truth Hurts said:

anybody got the vax stats for the southern ~~turnstiles~~ border? I'm going to guess they aren't very high

I have always heard that vax rates are high in Mexico and Central America. The bad diseases vaccines prevent were more recent/prevalent in those countries -- because USA had vaccvines earlier -- so people down south take them more seriously than many Americans do.

Mrs Whiggins · April 22

I don't have stats from reputable sources, the answer for status depends on a couple of things. Anyone entering the US at the border who wishes to become a legal resident must either have docs or receive the required immunizations; same with minors due to school requirements. Anyone who is arriving from a refugee camp where there has been an outbreak (of whatever disease) is also required to be vaccinated. Vaccines are offered to all IIRC. Also, every entrant must undergo a health check and that is the rub as measles (along with many other viruses) is contagious prior to symptoms appearing. After that, it's going to depend. Many of the cases appearing in the US have been due to travel back and forth from Europe and the Middle East where there are several outbreaks along with low vaccination rates in scattered pockets across the US. LAX receives a lot of travelers as do other airports in major urban areas, so like COVID, it's a gamble as to whether the afflicted would spread the illness among random people but in one of the last big outbreaks some years ago, it was travel from Israel to NYC that led to a lot of cases among the Orthodox community there (low vaccine rates). I can't remember if there were any fatalities but I think one woman miscarried after she was hospitalized.

F250 · April 23

When was the measles vaccine mandated for Texas public schools? I never had measles and have no idea if I was ever vaccinated.

crash_davis · April 23

35 minutes ago, F250 said:

When was the measles vaccine mandated for Texas public schools? I never had measles and have no idea if I was ever vaccinated.

I'm pretty sure MMR vaccination has been required since I was in kindergarten in 1975. Do you have kids? Your kid has a vaccination card which someone in your family had to present to the schools.

HOOKEM4 · April 23

4 hours ago, Truth Hurts said:

anybody got the vax stats for the southern ~~turnstiles~~ border? I'm going to guess they aren't very high

Anybody got the IQ for this douchebag poster? I am going to guess they aren't very high.

F250 · April 23

31 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

I'm pretty sure MMR vaccination has been required since I was in kindergarten in 1975. Do you have kids? Your kid has a vaccination card which someone in your family had to present to the schools.

Yeah, I know my kids received the vaccine. I was wondering if it was something we all got in elementary. I was an infant in '75 so I assume I must have received it by the time I entered kindergarten in the 80's. The last time I saw my pediatric medical records they were a stack of papers in a folder being filed away at Fort Sam Houston. Now I am curious what the military does with all those old medical records.

Incredulity · April 23

13 hours ago, F250 said:

Yeah, I know my kids received the vaccine. I was wondering if it was something we all got in elementary. I was an infant in '75 so I assume I must have received it by the time I entered kindergarten in the 80's. The last time I saw my pediatric medical records they were a stack of papers in a folder being filed away at Fort Sam Houston. Now I am curious what the military does with all those old medical records.

I believe public school MMR(measels, mumbs, rubella) vaccine requirements started in the 1950's.

landman · April 23

19 hours ago, crash_davis said:

This is what happens when the majority of the US who were C average students vote fellow dipshits into office.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/04/new-hampshire-republicans-polio-mmr-measles-vaccine-antivax-bill/

New Hampshire could soon beat Florida—known for its anti-vaccine Surgeon General—when it comes to loosening vaccine requirements. A first-in-the-nation bill that’s already passed New Hampshire’s state House, sponsored only by Republican legislators, would end the requirement for parents enrolling kids in childcare to provide documentation of polio and measles vaccination. New Hampshire would be the only state in the US to have such a law, although many states allow religious exemptions to vaccine requirements.

Currently, Republicans control New Hampshire’s state House, Senate and governor’s office—but that isn’t a guarantee that the bill will be signed into law, with GOP Gov.

My father and my mother-in-law both had polio when they were children, with MIL also dealing with post-polio syndrome the last few years. Fuck anyone that thinks this is a good idea.

BabaYaga · April 23

On 1/26/2024 at 8:54 AM, Frank Drebin said:

You know who does vaccinate their kids at a high rate (at least from the data the last time I looked, which was awhile back)? Recent immigrants from Mexico and Central America. Because some of those diseases they prevent were more common in their countries more recently than the US.

As of 2022

Mrs Whiggins · April 23

Incredulity, It was just a little bit after that; the first vaccines for measles were licensed around the early 60s and the school requirement came around somewhat slowly a few states at a time until pretty much all had various requirements by the early 70's. interestingly enough after there was an outbreak in Texarkana, where the measles cases among Texas children were twelve times that of Arkansas children (Arkansas had the school requirement but Texas did not), Texas got on board. By the time Carter was president, the nation was aiming for herd immunity.

However, other vaccines were required for school much earlier in the 20th century such as smallpox, diphtheria, and polio.

crash_davis · April 23

I saw the eclipse and got measles! What a great day!

https://abcnews.go.com/US/possible-measles-exposure-indiana-childrens-museum-total-eclipse-event/story?id=109490250

People who attended a total solar eclipse event at a children's museum in Indiana may have been exposed to measles, according to museum and health officials.

An infected individual traveled to the event at the Children's Museum of Indianapolis on April 8 from out of state, the Marion County Public Health Department (MCPHD) said in a news release late Friday afternoon.

There were 3,527 people in attendance on April 8, the children's museum said, adding that it sent out emails notifying households in attendance that day for whom it had contact information, as well as notified all staff and volunteers.

Armybrat · April 23

1 hour ago, Incredulity said:

I believe public school MMR(measels, mumbs, rubella) vaccine requirements started in the 1950's.

Yep, did that and lots more.

Herbie Hancock · April 23

Which vaccine or series of vaccines was it that gave all you Baby Boomers that funky little scar on your left shoulder? Smallpox?

crash_davis · April 23

3 minutes ago, Herbie Hancock said:

Which vaccine or series of vaccines was it that gave all you Baby Boomers that funky little scar on your left shoulder? Smallpox?

3G.

5G wasn't invented back then.

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