Bernie Sanders 2020 Watch

[bad_teammate 13132]

Hands down the best candidate. It's not even close.

God DAMN he's good

 

[bad_teammate 13132]

Only ONE person co-sponsored this with Merkley. Only TWO people in Congress are standing up against the coming war we're going to wage, either overtly or covertly, in Venezuela.

Out of over 500, only 2.

[Hank Scorpio 17723]

But I was told Bernie doesn't know anything about foreign policy. 

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20344]

Were Sanders to somehow be elected, he would be 79 years old on inauguration day. 

[Dropout 355]

10 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

All threads are about Bernie. Because all candidates are inferior, evil pieces of shit, who must be eliminated to pave the way for the Bern. #itshisturn.

And yet you’ve never posted in the actual Bernie thread. It’s like some are scared to come in here. Why? You say purity test I say facts. 

We don’t bite. You will make it out alive. There are discussions to be had but it’s much easier for some to repeat headlines.

You have been sold lies and took it hook line and sinker for a long time. Let it go. Quit making up fucking stories. That shit you drink is poisoning your brain. I’ll bring the grass to your ledge only bc I respect my elders.

Edited March 31, 2019 by Dropout

[bad_teammate 13132]

5 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Were Sanders to somehow be elected, he would be 79 years old on inauguration day. 

I will build a floating iron lung for Bernie. He will be suspended in a glowing membrane of amniotic fluid cloned from the DNA Rosa Luxemburg and, thus, our Dear Sweet Bernard will remain safe from glass shower doors.

[gmr548 16511]

7 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Were Sanders to somehow be elected, he would be 79 years old on inauguration day. 

Donald Trump would be 74.

[BradInATX 9208]

On 3/27/2019 at 4:32 PM, Dropout said:

You’re scaring me. We have had the tube discussion w the doc. Idk of a shittier feeling than being helpless to stop the pain/crying from your kid. I suppose that plus worrying about the bill.

Hope your little girl gets better and is doing well.

We just had our 6 month old get them. Ignoring any cost/political discussion - if you're anywhere in the area of considering doing it, do it. Best decision we've made. Was night and day. Went from constant ear infections/fevers to instantly hearing the world around him better, and he caught up on his verbal skills in about two weeks from the day we did it. He went from just babbling and sort of cooing at us to verbally interacting, making syllables, and making fart noises (and cracking himself up)  in the same week it happened.

Beyond scary putting your baby under, but it's routine for the docs. Would have done it sooner if they'd have let us. Dr. Dammert at Seton Hays is great (wife works with him), if you need a reco.

Sincere best wishes to you, wife and baby. 

Edited March 31, 2019 by BradInATX

[bad_teammate 13132]

@ChiTownDoc

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I don’t know.  I’ve said many times you’re very clearly the lesser of two evils.  Doesn’t meant there’s not some real fucked up shit on the far left too. 

If you had to put specifics on "some real fucked up shit" regarding BernieBros or, basically, the American Left at all, I'd love to hear what it is. My feeling is that it's going to be a bunch of nothing or some red-baiting from the 1960s, but one can hope you've actually based your tempered equivalence on something.

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Eric Clanton hit a guy with a bike lock. And... the shooter at the softball practice that didn't kill anyone. And... those rowdy college kids protesting white supremacists and pedophiles by destroying property.

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Multiple literal mass murderers and one hundred other far worse crimes than anything on the left that I would list but it doesn't matter at all because you guys didn't get where you are through facts and reason in the first place so why bother telling the truth.
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The actual reality and truth is that American Left opposes the most inhumane aspects of society that the right, center-right, and center all support and even celebrate: Prison-industrial complex, unnecessary wars abroad, and police violence. There's more, but that's enough to be going on with. Those three represent a profound amount of "fucked up shit" and all three of them are also stocked full of individual right-wingers doing "fucked up shit".

You can say that there are some ideas on the right that oppose these things, and that's true, but there is no action or specific vision on the street or in the legislatures.

Find any hate group in the US you like that has a political element at all and I challenge you to find ONE that is not right-wing/MAGA.

And I suppose you could try to No True Scotsman the MAGA movement out of the political right, but you'd be torturing things to fit an agenda.

The Left wants to raise taxes to provide robust social welfare programs. That's what scares you. It's what you've been indoctrinated to fear your whole life and you don't have control of your emotions.

Edited March 31, 2019 by bad_teammate

[bad_teammate 13132]

Sorry, fuckos, the kids are coming for our wealth and we should be happy about it.

 

[ChiTownDoc 21101]

1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

@ChiTownDoc

If you had to put specifics on "some real fucked up shit" regarding BernieBros or, basically, the American Left at all, I'd love to hear what it is. My feeling is that it's going to be a bunch of nothing or some red-baiting from the 1960s, but one can hope you've actually based your tempered equivalence on something.

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Eric Clanton hit a guy with a bike lock. And... the shooter at the softball practice that didn't kill anyone. And... those rowdy college kids protesting white supremacists and pedophiles by destroying property.

vs.

Multiple literal mass murderers and one hundred other far worse crimes than anything on the left that I would list but it doesn't matter at all because you guys didn't get where you are through facts and reason in the first place so why bother telling the truth.
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The actual reality and truth is that American Left opposes the most inhumane aspects of society that the right, center-right, and center all support and even celebrate: Prison-industrial complex, unnecessary wars abroad, and police violence. There's more, but that's enough to be going on with. Those three represent a profound amount of "fucked up shit" and all three of them are also stocked full of individual right-wingers doing "fucked up shit".

You can say that there are some ideas on the right that oppose these things, and that's true, but there is no action or specific vision on the street or in the legislatures.

Find any hate group in the US you like that has a political element at all and I challenge you to find ONE that is not right-wing/MAGA.

And I suppose you could try to No True Scotsman the MAGA movement out of the political right, but you'd be torturing things to fit an agenda.

The Left wants to raise taxes to provide robust social welfare programs. That's what scares you. It's what you've been indoctrinated to fear your whole life and you don't have control of your emotions.

It’s very real class warfare and discrimination against the wealthy.  

I live in the same building as hedge funder Ken Griffin and his kids.  There’s a reason for security out the ass.  Real shit has happened.  

Personally, I never have felt it but I don’t look like them either.  But I have seen it. 

Nothing to do with taxes.  You always assume that.  And I laugh.  Again no kids and no plans for them.  You don’t take this stuff with you.  

[bad_teammate 13132]

27 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

It’s very real class warfare and discrimination against the wealthy.  

I live in the same building as hedge funder Ken Griffin and his kids.  There’s a reason for security out the ass.  Real shit has happened.    

 

 

You people cannot even be parodied. It's like Trump. Both the wealth class and Trump are beyond satire. They are walking, talking satire. To crib from another movie, you're too stupid to insult.

I asked for specifics and got more vagueness. "very real", I'm assured, "real shit has happened"

Yes yes, sounds very real and specific and terrifying. If only you had the security clearance to share the details and prove this terrible, terrible anti-wealthy conspiracy. Yes yes, absolutely. 

Perhaps Griffin really has received threats (I guess, I don't know, you didn't actually say anything). That's too bad and it shouldn't happen, but what are the details? Is it actually indicative of "very real class warfare and discrimination against the wealthy"? Did he get threats from someone whose life was destroyed when Griffin's hedge fund decided to lay people off? Corporate competition scaring him? Foreign entanglements? What?

Meanwhile, African-Americans are routinely murdered in cold blood by police. People's lifespans are falling and opiate addiction and overdose are skyrocketing. Wages and wealth plummet. Everyone who isn't white is getting slaughtered by white supremacists.

But the guy who buys $240M penthouses he'll spend a few months a year in had to get security.

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Nothing to do with taxes.  You always assume that.  And I laugh.  Again no kids and no plans for them.  You don’t take this stuff with you.

What relevance does this have to... anything? No one cares where you live or how many kids you want to have.

What is your point?

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20344]

9 hours ago, gmr548 said:

Donald Trump would be 74.

 

My point, exactly. 

[ChiTownDoc 21101]

47 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

 

 

You people cannot even be parodied. It's like Trump. Both the wealth class and Trump are beyond satire. They are walking, talking satire. To crib from another movie, you're too stupid to insult.

I asked for specifics and got more vagueness. "very real", I'm assured, "real shit has happened"

Yes yes, sounds very real and specific and terrifying. If only you had the security clearance to share the details and prove this terrible, terrible anti-wealthy conspiracy. Yes yes, absolutely. 

Perhaps Griffin really has received threats (I guess, I don't know, you didn't actually say anything). That's too bad and it shouldn't happen, but what are the details? Is it actually indicative of "very real class warfare and discrimination against the wealthy"? Did he get threats from someone whose life was destroyed when Griffin's hedge fund decided to lay people off? Corporate competition scaring him? Foreign entanglements? What?

Meanwhile, African-Americans are routinely murdered in cold blood by police. People's lifespans are falling and opiate addiction and overdose are skyrocketing. Wages and wealth plummet. Everyone who isn't white is getting slaughtered by white supremacists.

But the guy who buys $240M penthouses he'll spend a few months a year in had to get security.

What relevance does this have to... anything? No one cares where you live or how many kids you want to have.

What is your point?

You always mention taxes so I mention no kids bc why the fuck do I care what I’m taxed at.  I already have more than I’ll ever be able to spend.  After taxes were paid.  So you can tax at 99%.  I don’t give a fuck.  The point is people like Bern are terrible at managing money   The govt as a whole is, right and left.  So whatever you tax at don’t make a shit until you learn to spend it properly.   But for the 100th time it’s not like anyone is coming after mine, that’s over   Sorry.  You’ll never touch it, tax away.    

 

And no the far left idiots are not as dangerous as those on the far right but there’s a very real danger there on the left.  Sorry, you’re too firmly entrenched on the far left to see it.  Only one of us has lived in the lowest and highest tax bracket, my friend. And from the anger you display about Ken, it’s pretty obvious you’ll never be able to look at this objectively.  Just admit it.  You want your pound of flesh.  

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

Hard to argue the class warfare wasn’t a creation of the 1%’s lust for power and greed.  Seems like the situation will come to its logical conclusion eventually.  There will be victims of the collateral damage in that conclusion, sadly. 

Edited March 31, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[bad_teammate 13132]

1 hour ago, ChiTownDoc said:

So you can tax at 99%.  I don’t give a fuck.  The point is people like Bern are terrible at managing money   The govt as a whole is, right and left.  So whatever you tax at don’t make a shit until you learn to spend it properly.

This is complete bullshit. What you've done is convince yourself of what is essentially a religious dogma because it benefits you personally. Vague bullshit from top to bottom.

What do you even mean by "managing money"? What the fuck are you talking about?

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And no the far left idiots are not as dangerous as those on the far right but there’s a very real danger there on the left.  Sorry, you’re too firmly entrenched on the far left to see it.  

I can't see something you don't even bother to try and show me.

What happened? What's going on with Ken? Do you have ANY details on it at all? Are you making it up completely or do you only half-know what's going on?

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Only one of us has lived in the lowest and highest tax bracket, my friend.

I was born in a town with fewer than 3,000 people and now live in the Houston Villages in a neighborhood where the only socially-allowable domestic vehicle is a Tahoe or Tesla, fuck off with this bullshit like you're some unique snowflake.

However, I don't drive down my street pretending that the poor are coming for our heads.

[bad_teammate 13132]

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

WHY NOT DONE BERNIE?!?  

Sorry, you don’t get to call out Trump on it until you release yours.

[bad_teammate 13132]

4 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

WHY NOT DONE BERNIE?!?  

Probably because it's invasive, boring, pointless, and meaningless.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

That’s why all candidates do it except the ones that have something to hide.

[GSU&UT 1798]

It's going to be a moot point because Maryland (and maybe a couple of other states) passed a law that stated you have to release your tax returns if you want your name to appear on the ballot.

[bad_teammate 13132]

43 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

That’s why all candidates do it except the ones that have something to hide.

Here's 2014 for you while you wait.

But is Bernie is the only candidate who hasn't released all of his?

How many do we have for Beto? Pete? Booker? Klobuchar? Yang? Castro? I find nothing for any of them. (Booker let some reporters briefly glance at his 7-8 years ago.)

Biden's latest is 2015, wonder what he's got to hide. Same for Kamala.

Only Warren and Gillibrand have tax returns available more recent than 2015. (Inslee has, too, but does he count?)

 

 

Edited March 31, 2019 by bad_teammate

[BradInATX 9208]

How many of those people have been running for president since 2015?

 

I count two in Bernie and Booker

 

 

[bad_teammate 13132]

7 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

How many of those people have been running for president since 2015?

I count two in Bernie and Booker

2015 preparers: Warren, Biden, Bernie, Booker (only Bernie ended up running against Hillary, otherwise the other 3 would've been in there)

Klobuchar, Gillibrand, and Harris have been planning this since 2016 at the latest

Beto since November of 2018

Pete & Castro since they were toddlers

Yang ugh who cares

 

[bad_teammate 13132]

Inappropriate, but I'll allow it

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[bad_teammate 13132]

Working at Disney... and homeless.

Disney made 12.6B in profit in 2018.

Bernie fights for the workers.

Bernie will fight for you.

 

[bad_teammate 13132]

Bernie has ruled for decades.

 

[Anastasis 23395]

Dude in the background is an OG Bernie Bro. 

[bad_teammate 13132]

@Brisketexan

I found someone with as shitty a Bernie take as yours!

 

[Dropout 355]

Seems like every week Bezos going hard at Bernie. Maybe they can put together an article w some substance soon. My patience is wearing thin.

3 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Dude in the background is an OG Bernie Bro. 

I love this guy. He’s always back there in every video waiting for some shit to go down w this look on his face. It’s great.

[UTDD 362]

I still find it fascinating how many young people love Bernie.  I get it intellectually with his policy ideas, but it's still interesting in that there is no younger version of himself gaining traction instead of a guy pushing 80 if he actually becomes President.  The socialism branding will come hard at him from the right, and I generally think it will be more effective on him and Warren than Biden, Beto, or Harris.  (I personally think Harris with Beto as VP in the end is the strongest team to beat Trump because they will tweak towards the center and compromise more than Bernie or Warren ever would, but I definitely could be wrong and am curious to see what happens)  I would say Mayor Pete is a very strong contender too especially with his Midwest ties which are huge for 2020, but I'm not convinced Americans (at least a majority) are ready to elect a gay President.  I think they are ready for a woman.  

[happyfunball 481]

Good job team Bernie

[mdmost 42865]

Bernie Bras? I hope people that know her give her shit on a daily basis now. 

Edited April 3, 2019 by mdmost

[ChiTownDoc 21101]

On 3/31/2019 at 7:47 AM, bad_teammate said:

@ChiTownDoc

The Left wants to raise taxes to provide robust social welfare programs. That's what scares you. It's what you've been indoctrinated to fear your whole life and you don't have control of your emotions.

I don’t get this.  I never grew up like that.  I’m a minority who ran track up through division I college.  Lol

What you’re describing is the polar opposite of how I was brought up.  Literally. 

[DigglerontheHoof 21061]

6 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

I don’t get this.  I never grew up like that.  I’m a minority who ran track up through division I college.  Lol

What you’re describing is the polar opposite of how I was brought up.  Literally. 

He's a choad.  Ignore function is your friend w/ that one. 

[bad_teammate 13132]

7 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

What you’re describing is the polar opposite of how I was brought up.  Literally. 

Then what explains your immediate negative and openly combative reaction to every vaguely left/redistributive economic policy idea? A rejection of the politics of your upbringing or are those not the politics of your upbringing?

It is not, after all, true that all non-whites are automatically huge economic lefists. The opposite, in fact, in many cases. I'm confused as to the relevance of the identity politics at play.

[Hank Kingsley 20694]

This will be amazing. 

 

[bad_teammate 13132]

This is going to rule.

Grandpa's gonna get on FOX and tell all those old people he's going to expand Medicare to cover eyeglasses and hearing aids and cut their prescription drug prices in half.

Let's go, baby.

[Dropout 355]

Very good Bernie. I’d imagine being an old white guy has a lot of perks. One being going in front of an old white audience and that audience actually listening to what you have to say. Flip a small percentage of those Trump votes and this thing is a 2020 landslide.

[bad_teammate 13132]

Tapper... good?

 

[Dropout 355]

It is. Very good Tapper. Spell it out slowly. Let it come from someone the moderates may listen to. Paging all who are ready to write him off. Bernie is the man to beat. Believe the Biden frontrunner story at your own peril. That guy is dead on arrival.

[bad_teammate 13132]

Oh my god how did I miss my Bernie Broette above?

Her getting owned immediately made my night.

"To speak to the privilege that holds for that election to be a joke for you."

White libs, man, white libs.

 

[bad_teammate 13132]

Bernie is a Disney princess, the animals love him and whisper to him about our glorious future.

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[bad_teammate 13132]

Bernie's campaign chair.

This is going to be a hilariously fun year.

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entire Bernie gang getting in

 

Edited April 4, 2019 by bad_teammate

[bad_teammate 13132]

Bernie's donators include 20k registered Republicans and 100k registered Independents

 

[Dropout 355]

12 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

entire Bernie gang getting in

 

Chip away at the bro narrative one voice at a time. One vote at a time even better. It rubs me the wrong way as a minority guy. I could imagine how a woman feels. A minority woman even worse. Get em Joy.

[bad_teammate 13132]

Two weeks of WaPo coverage:

Neolibs working extra hard to sink Bernie.

Not gonna work.

[tantric superman 4667]

On 7/13/2018 at 5:38 PM, Dropout said:

He has been a lifelong politician not some reality show host.

He has been a lifelong politician who doesn't have much to show for it. 

His top policy goals — Medicare for All, free public college and a $15 per hour minimum wage — have become more mainstream in the Democratic Party, even if the party’s congressional leadership have not embraced all of those plans.

I'm good with upping the minimum wage.  The other two not so much.  Would rather improve Obamacare and call for non-race needs based public college grants for college.

Guy's too old and his socialist tendencies would hurt the country.  The country needs moderation, not someone on the edge.  I want one of the younger candidates to speak up against some of the leftier ideas and try to break away from the pack. 

[tantric superman 4667]

I'm going to stand down from my comment about BS not accomplishing much.  Not fair for me to say that without having a better grasp of his prior history, especially during the New Deal. 

[bad_teammate 13132]

~ ~ hIs SoCiAlIsT tEnDeNcIeS ~ ~

Bernie is going to go into Coal Country and have people hootin' and hollerin' for economic justice. He's going onto FOX and they will be cheering for single-payer universal healthcare that cannot be taken away.

They're unlettered and uncultured and unwoke, but they're not moral lepers and they aren't stupid. Red-baiting does nothing but activate supremely surface level concerns, and when you're absolutely desperate you don't have time for garbage like that.