Bernie Sanders 2020 Watch

[Johnny Sack 8397]

6 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Your family doesn't get rich without the gubment.

Government doesn’t make anyone rich.  They’re overhead.  And much of that flows directly to your party.  Any wonder why DC and surrounding areas that are filled with locusts off the feds and almost every state capital filled with locusts off the state is so solid blue?  Swamp creatures that vote for a living.  

[David Dennison 18924]

6 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Government doesn’t make anyone rich.  They’re overhead.  And much of that flows directly to your party.  Any wonder why DC and surrounding areas that are filled with locusts off the feds and almost every state capital filled with locusts off the state is so solid blue?  Swamp creatures that vote for a living.  

Your family and others like it don't get rich without government provided roads, courts, schools, police, etc. And let's not forget the direct subsidization of capitalist endeavors.

 

Edited March 4, 2020 by David Dennison

[Leamas 29]

7 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Government doesn’t make anyone rich.

 

The fellas at Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, and General Dynamics seem to be doing okay.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

Your family and others like it don't get rich without government provided roads, courts, schools, police, etc. And let's not forget the direct subsidization of capitalist endeavors.

 

Everyone uses roads, schools and police.  The poor use them as much or more.  And pay much less for them.  
 

Go stand in line at the metal detectors at your local court for the demographics of who is causing usage.  

[David Dennison 18924]

6 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Everyone uses roads, schools and police.  The poor use them as much or more.  And pay much less for them.  
 

Go stand in line at the metal detectors at your local court for the demographics of who is causing usage.  

Yeah. The rich rarely use the government provided courts to protect their interests. Or government provided peace officers to enforce their rights. Or government provided military forces to protect their wealth. 

It's the poor who really benefit.

 

Edited March 4, 2020 by David Dennison

[bad_teammate 13218]

Johnny only wants as much government as is necessary to protect him from his dad's slaves.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

Yeah. The rich rarely use the government provided courts to protect wealth. Or government provided peace officers to enforce their rights. Or government provided military forces to protect their wealth. 

It's the poor who really benefit.

 

The rich actually pay for that shit.  They also handle plenty legal issues in arbitration.  And plenty of their education in private schools.  And police concentrate their resources more in poor areas.  All the neighborhoods around me have their own security.  Seeing HPD around here is as rare as hen teeth.  

[bad_teammate 13218]

Voting in America

 

[David Dennison 18924]

3 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

The rich actually pay for that shit.  They also handle plenty legal issues in arbitration.  And plenty of their education in private schools.  And police concentrate their resources more in poor areas.  All the neighborhoods around me have their own security.  Seeing HPD around here is as rare as hen teeth.  

Where did you go to high school?

[Guest Lobo]

Seeing the demographic that Bernie is carrying tonight, im skeptical he can beat captain dipshit’s ass in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Florida.  

[Incredulity 11675]

3 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Seeing the demographic that Bernie is carrying tonight, im skeptical he can beat captain dipshit’s ass in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Florida.  

Narrator: He can’t.

[Incredulity 11675]

22 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Your family and others like it don't get rich without government provided roads, courts, schools, police, etc. And let's not forget the direct subsidization of capitalist endeavors.

 

They aren’t “government provided”. They are paid for by tax revenue, which is paid by(checks notes)... the wealthy. 

[David Dennison 18924]

34 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

They aren’t “government provided”. They are paid for by tax revenue, which is paid by(checks notes)... the wealthy. 

Then you won't mind when Democrats raise taxes.

[Incredulity 11675]

5 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Then you won't mind when Democrats raise taxes.

It’s ok, your PERS benefits will be there when you retire.  I will keep working hard to provide for you.

[Anastasis 23477]

Assuming that results coming in tonight hold, what is Bernie's path to the nomination?  Seems like Bloomberg and Warren will drop and we know where most of their votes go.  

[Bateshorn 9928]

10 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Assuming that results coming in tonight hold, what is Bernie's path to the nomination?  Seems like Bloomberg and Warren will drop and we know where most of their votes go.  

Very thin.  If he grinds long enough, and Biden fades due to scandal/bright light, I could see an argument he’s the runner up and the convention throwing to him on the second ballot.  If Sherrod Brown/Kamala/Abrams, etc doesn’t get put up as a savior candidate. 

[Zavala 1384]

Time to log off comrades

 

Salt in spoiler

[bad_teammate 13218]

Might be a little early to dance on Bernie's grave. We might have 4-5 debates that are basically one-on-one.

[Zavala 1384]

1 minute ago, bad_teammate said:

Might be a little early to dance on Bernie's grave. We might have 4-5 debates that are basically one-on-one.

Guess it depends on how bad creepy Joe Biden dementia gets lol

No matter what, Bernie is a dream

 

[David Dennison 18924]

40 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

It’s ok, your PERS benefits will be there when you retire.  I will keep working hard to provide for you.

But you said rich people pay taxes. 

I haz confuse.

[Incredulity 11675]

2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

But you said rich people pay taxes. 

I haz confuse.

Well, thats not good.

Your third period Home Economics class starts at 9:45 tomorrow so you better get to bed.

Big day tomorrow.

[Zavala 1384]

I'm always curious what do the people who didn't take out stupid fucking loans get out of a Bernie Sanders presidency? Increased taxes to pay off other people's loans and "free" shit?

[workswithseed 2112]

That's why I play roblox

[Rougarou 594]

Will Bernie Bros be exceptionally bitter and ugly to people tomorrow? Is tonight going to invigorate them to be more hostile? I feel like the tomorrow is an inflection point on the Bernie Bros narrative.

[Bookman 4639]

4 hours ago, Johnny Sack said:

He’ll sell out again and get paid to endorse Biden.  And buy a 4th house somewhere. 
 

He is a loser.  Was on welfare and jobless until he got into politics as a middle aged man.  

Bernie seems honest to me.

Edited March 4, 2020 by Bookman

[Bookman 4639]

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Edited March 4, 2020 by Bookman

[workswithseed 2112]

Why did you quote yourself?

[Bookman 4639]

It was an accident.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13515]

Good article on Bernie not knowing how to lead and his inability to pivot to do so. Shows a potential weakness if he became president. 

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/4/21164091/sanders-biden-super-tuesday-endorsements-primary-2020

 

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

5 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Shows a potential weakness if he became president. 

As bummed as I am, it's not happening.

[jimmyjazz 45981]

8 hours ago, Rougarou said:

Will Bernie Bros be exceptionally bitter and ugly to people tomorrow? Is tonight going to invigorate them to be more hostile? I feel like the tomorrow is an inflection point on the Bernie Bros narrative.

They already are.  I'm seeing tons of "Bernie or nobody in the general" on social media, and these are people I know, not bots.

[Chuckie Finster 22702]

19 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Good article on Bernie not knowing how to lead and his inability to pivot to do so. Shows a potential weakness if he became president. 

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/4/21164091/sanders-biden-super-tuesday-endorsements-primary-2020

 

This is spot on.

In recent weeks, Biden has been racking up endorsements from Democratic Party heavyweights. Days before the crucial South Carolina primary, Rep. Jim Clyburn blessed Biden — giving him the single most important endorsement a Democrat can win in South Carolina. Biden went on to win the primary by almost 30 points. Days later, Biden got endorsements from Pete Buttigieg, Sen. Amy Klobuchar, Beto O’Rourke, and Harry Reid — endorsements that, in his speech Tuesday night, he credited with helping him notch a shockingly strong Super Tuesday performance.

Sanders’s supporters have reacted to these endorsements with fury. To them, it’s proof the fix is in.

If Biden wins the nomination, it will be a real lesson in how power works. Bernie was on track to win, Biden had no campaign, and they all knew it. So a few phone calls were made behind the scenes to Amy, Pete, Beto. Several million was put into a pro-Warren Super PAC. Voila!

— Nathan J Robinson (@NathanJRobinson) March 4, 2020

If that’s the lesson Sanders’s supporters take about how power works, it’s the wrong lesson. The work of the president requires convincing legislators in your party to support your agenda, sometimes at the cost of your political or policy ambitions. If Sanders and his team don’t figure out how to do it, they could very well lose to Biden, and even if they win, they’ll be unable to govern.

Persuading the Amy Klobuchars of the world to support you, even when they know it’s a risk, is exactly what the president needs to do to pass bills, whether that’s a Green New Deal or Medicare-for-all or just an infrastructure package. Biden, for all his weak debate performances and meandering speeches, is showing he still has that legislator’s touch. That he can unite the party around him, and convince even moderate Democrats to support a liberal agenda, is literally the case for his candidacy.

 

Sanders hasn’t demonstrated that same skill over the course of this primary, or his career. Worse, his most enthusiastic supporters treat that kind of transactional politicking with contempt. Senators like Cory Booker, Kamala Harris, and Elizabeth Warren, who co-sponsored Sanders’s Medicare-for-all bill but quibbled with details or wanted to soften sections, were treated not as allies to cultivate but as traitors to exile.

Similarly, Sanders’s supporters have been furious, for weeks, that Warren hasn’t dropped out and endorsed Sanders. What they haven’t done is ask why Sanders hasn’t been able to convince her — or any of the major Democrats who have already dropped out — to endorse him. Whatever case Biden is making or deals he’s offering, Sanders isn’t matching him. Or perhaps the well has been poisoned by Sanders supporters filling Twitter with tweets calling Warren a snake and the Democratic establishment a cabal.

[Hank Scorpio 17729]

Hahahaha the end of that article is so fucking stupid. Twitter has broken everyone’s brains. 

Edited March 4, 2020 by Hank Scorpio

[bad_teammate 13218]

Not really "big", because he already said this and he's an honest person.

But I'm sure some here will be interested.

[bad_teammate 13218]

Bernie goading Obama into stepping out into the open and not just doing backroom shit. I love it.

 

[jimmyjazz 45981]

22 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

Not really "big", because he already said this and he's an honest person.

But I'm sure some here will be interested.

Yeah, he's honest alright.  Wait, wasn't it Bernie who said that a plurality in 2016 should not be sufficient to garner the nomination?  Hmmm.

I believe that makes Bernie . . . a hypocrite.

[jimmyjazz 45981]

NSIAP -- it's making the social media rounds.  This is the Bernie Bro Behavior that just utterly pisses other Democrats off.

And yes, it's real, and yes, it's the perspective of a nontrivial cross section of the Sanders movement.  Little bitches who want to play at the poker table and then get pissed when the other players don't let them rewrite the rules.

Here's a novel fucking idea:  if the Democratic Party isn't to your liking, DON'T RUN IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES.

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Blue No Matter Who people are already blaming us in advance for not voting for Biden in the general election. They need to sit down and understand something.

We (people like myself) were never Blue No Matter Who. We were never Blue to begin with. Blue has, for decades, been a source of disappointment, neglect, deceit, betrayal, and collusion with the people who actively persecute us. Yall never had us to begin with, yet you're acting entitled to our votes and support.

Fuck. You.

You need to understand this: This election season, you all have been inundated by our generosity as we put our discomfort aside for the off chance of salvaging your shitty Party. Your cup of our compromises runneth the fuck over. You are not entitled to a single goddamn vote, and we sure as fuck are not responsible for wrecking your mediocre ass dreams.

I think the fuck not.

There's people out here committing suicide over the student debt they're drowning in, debt that they acquired by putting faith in your bullshit promises of work-hard-get-paid. We're out here GoFundMeing chemo treatments, getting shot at by your friends in blue (hah, yall love that color don't you?), and drinking poison water because your billionaire buddies wanted to save a dollar. And what did yall do?

Actively and OPENLY sabotaged the only candidate who bothered to give a fuck.

I don't owe you shit.

You want Trump out? Wow. What ambition. Don't pull a muscle reaching for the fucking stars there. Thank you for really coming through when things finally got bad enough that they started to affect YOU.

Maybe if YOU learn how to compromise we can do that.

Erase crippling debt no matter who. End police brutality no matter who. Abolish ICE no matter who. Free Palestine no matter who. Stop people from dying of preventable fucking illnesses no matter who.

Fuck your Party loyalty. We want People loyalty. When you show up for that, then we can talk about what you can have from us.

 

[washparkhorn 9939]

 

[Grade of D as in David 13253]

15 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

NSIAP -- it's making the social media rounds.  This is the Bernie Bro Behavior that just utterly pisses other Democrats off.

And yes, it's real, and yes, it's the perspective of a nontrivial cross section of the Sanders movement.  Little bitches who want to play at the poker table and then get pissed when the other players don't let them rewrite the rules.

Here's a novel fucking idea:  if the Democratic Party isn't to your liking, DON'T RUN IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES.

 

These are the same people that want Liz to fall in line and support Bernie. Zero fucking self awareness from that group.

[bad_teammate 13218]

Copy/pasting Reddit posts to try and start fights here is one of the more pathetic tactics I've seen.

Props

[jimmyjazz 45981]

49 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Copy/pasting Reddit posts to try and start fights here is one of the more pathetic tactics I've seen.

Props

I didn't get it off reddit.

Props.

[bad_teammate 13218]

Where did you get it?

I bet it is equally stupid, if not moreso.

[jimmyjazz 45981]

27 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Where did you get it?

I bet it is equally stupid, if not moreso.

It was shared on FB by multiple acquaintances who support Bernie.  All shared from the original author's page (unless she plagiarized it).

The point is that known Bernie supporters are sharing it as "the truth", and I find it fucking reprehensible.  I'm sure you don't.

[Anastasis 23477]

Probably Russian active measures. 

[bad_teammate 13218]

Seems like you should talk to those people about it instead of acting like an old woman with an e-mail chain waving printed Hotmail pages in her grandson's face demanding satisfaction.

[bad_teammate 13218]

The social media dramas obsessed over here aren't real life.

I've done dozens of hours of phonebanking for Bernie in the last year and the number of times someone mentioned Bernie Bros or online rudeness? Once, a Pete supporter who asked me what Pete was talking about during the debate when he brought it up.

[Hank Scorpio 17729]

More disgusting misogyny from Bernie and his supporters: 

 

 

[jimmyjazz 45981]

30 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Seems like you should talk to those people about it instead of acting like an old woman with an e-mail chain waving printed Hotmail pages in her grandson's face demanding satisfaction.

Huh.  I could've sworn this was the Bernie Sanders thread.  My bad.

[workswithseed 2112]

 

[henrygandorf 29192]

3 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

I've done dozens of hours of phonebanking for Bernie in the last year and the number of times someone mentioned Bernie Bros or online rudeness? Once, a Pete supporter who asked me what Pete was talking about during the debate when he brought it up.

so are you saying it's imaginary, or are you saying that only the very-online people are aware of it, which actually represents a small amount of people in real life?