Bernie Sanders 2020 Watch

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

2 minutes ago, Dropout said:

Bernie the guy who is usually right. The guy who gets shit done if there is even a remote chance of it happening. Shoots fireballs from his eyes and bolts of lightning from his arse. Come on Hugo you can’t hold out much longer...

Hey, I got nothing against Bernie but the real credit here goes to Bezos.

While Bernie led the way, it's not like he was the only Senator calling for this. 

 

 

Edited October 2, 2018 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Dropout 355]

Point being Bernie is seemingly always leading the way... right? And I gave Bezos his props.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

1 minute ago, Dropout said:

Point being Bernie is seemingly always leading the way... right? And I gave Bezos his props.

He certainly seems to spend a remarkable amount of time in the media. 

Not that there's anything wrong with that. 

[Dropout 355]

When most of the people you work with aren’t worth a shit and have no interest in helping the people of this country... one must find alternate routes.

Bernie could have used more of the media last election. He has set himself up as a household name. Name recognition through the roof. It had to happen to give himself a chance the next time around.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33843]

12 minutes ago, Dropout said:

When most of the people you work with aren’t worth a shit and have no interest in helping the people of this country... one must find alternate routes.

Bernie could have used more of the media last election. He has set himself up as a household name. Name recognition through the roof. It had to happen to give himself a chance the next time around.

If he runs I hope it's as VP. I think we need some youth in the potus seat

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

4 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

If he runs I hope it's as VP. I think we need some youth in the potus seat

Why do we need youth? 

Youth means inexperience and naivety.  We got youth with Obama and it led us to the Russians with Trump and the theft of a Supreme Court seat.  

So seriously, what is the advantage of youth in the most important job in the world? 

 

 

 

Edited October 2, 2018 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Dropout 355]

Answer no advantage. People pin it on he’s going to die. Newsflash anyone can die.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33843]

Because we need some less serious shit around here:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3km7jw/bernie-sanders-rescues-girl-from-getting-hit-by-car-dc-vgtrn?utm_source=dmfb

Edited October 4, 2018 by Longhorn_Fan68

[David Dennison 18656]

On 10/2/2018 at 3:13 PM, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Why do we need youth? 

Youth means inexperience and naivety.  We got youth with Obama and it led us to the Russians with Trump and the theft of a Supreme Court seat.  

So seriously, what is the advantage of youth in the most important job in the world? 

In all likelihood you won't end up with the guy you didn't vote for becoming president.

[Dropout 355]

https://news.gallup.com/poll/243539/americans-maintain-positive-view-bernie-sanders.aspx

[Dropout 355]

Bernie again the only politician willing to do what’s right. Does not care about billion dollar arm sales. Keep your money. Only cares about freedom for the people around the world. Take it from Khashoggi the guy who was hacked into pieces.

https://www.newsweek.com/jamal-khashoggi-secret-interview-saudi-murder-prince-mbs-islam-america-1178489

When MBS arrested all of those princes and others and put them at the Ritz-Carlton—I  understand when somebody’s this corrupt, he needs to be arrested. However, there was no due process, no evidence, no transparency. So if he really wants to be a reformist, why not bring evidence to the public? Why not bring transparency where you have really introduced the rule of law and due process? The people will be on his side if he would do that.

I don't think that is in his—he doesn't see that. He doesn't see the need for that. He is still very much… Deep inside him, he is an old-fashioned tribal leader. Look at the Kuwaiti judiciary, which is like a Gulf state; the society is very much close to the Saudi society. But the Kuwaiti judiciary is way more advanced than the Saudi judiciary, way more transparent than the Saudi judiciary.

Why does MBS not see that part of reform? Because it will limit his authoritarian rule, and he doesn’t want that. He doesn't see the need for that. So sometimes I feel that...he wants to enjoy the fruits of First World modernity and Silicon Valley and cinemas and everything, but at the same time he wants also to rule like how his grandfather ruled Saudi Arabia.

That doesn't work. You can't have it both ways.

He wants to have it both ways.

This is what I’m trying to understand: Can you have it both ways?

First of all, there is no political movement in Saudi Arabia that could pressure him, number one. And the world is happy with him. Do you see anybody in America except for Bernie Sanders who is calling for putting pressure on MBS? I only saw Bernie Sanders, but no one else.

 

Edited October 20, 2018 by Dropout

[Dropout 355]

Clear view on climate change. A breath of fresh air. I suppose you should get it while you can...

 

[Dropout 355]

Bernie still drawing crowds and encouraging citizens to vote. 

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/19/bernie-sanders-2020-916368

“Now Trump, he’s a very, very tough guy,” Sanders told about 3,000 people in this college town. “He’s a very, very strong guy when he tears little children at the border from the arms of their mothers. What a tough guy. But he ain’t such a tough guy when he has to deal with Putin … He is not such a tough guy when he has to deal with his billionaire friends in Saudi Arabia, who just tortured and murdered a courageous journalist.”

Also acknowledges what’s his biggest “issue” for some... how old he is. Still shows up to work everyday. Not the kind where you say you’ll show up to work and end up golfing half the time. Actually show up to work.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/19/bernie-sanders-2020-918609

“It’s part of a discussion, but it has to be part of an overall view of what somebody is and what somebody has accomplished,” Sanders, who is 77, told POLITICO. “Look, you’ve got people who are 50 years of age who are not well, right? You’ve got people who are 90 years of age who are going to work every day doing excellent work. And obviously, age is a factor. But it depends on the overall health and well being of the individual.”

 

[Dropout 355]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/bernie-sanders-enters-2020-presidential-race-complete-revolution-n972906

Seen plenty talk. Still the only one with a proven track record. Start the debates already.

[bad_teammate 13132]

My body is ready. As is my $27.

[Bateshorn 9899]

Old, Male, & Pale to the rescue.

[UTDD 362]

On ‎10‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 3:13 PM, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Why do we need youth? 

Youth means inexperience and naivety.  We got youth with Obama and it led us to the Russians with Trump and the theft of a Supreme Court seat.  

So seriously, what is the advantage of youth in the most important job in the world? 

 

 

 

None necessarily -- except maybe actually winning the 2020 election.  Which I personally believe considering the older candidates out there.

[DigglerontheHoof 21062]

Again, I'll vote for whomever the Dems roll out in 2020 b/c they aren't Trump but , if it's Bernie, it'll be a disaster. 

[Pig Bellmont 8691]

Bernie has 0 chance. The only reason he was successful in 2016 was that Hillary cleared the field with back room deals and he was the only other choice. Now that the primary has legitimate competition for ideas and likeable personalities, he won’t do well. 

[bad_teammate 13132]

Flow My Tears, The Shitlibs Said

[Zombie 284]

I like Bernie and I'm glad he's made the party more progressive. I'll vote for him if I think he gives Democrats the best chance to take down Trump. I just have my doubts that our very diverse party is going to choose an old white guy to be that person. If he is, then Bernie 2020!

[bad_teammate 13132]

"HI!"

Bernie: Master of the Charm Offensive

[bad_teammate 13132]

The 2020 battleground states:
- Florida 
- Wisconsin *
- Pennsylvania
- Michigan *
- New Hampshire *
- Nevada 

2020 blue wall:
- Colorado *
- Minnesota *
- Virginia

* - States Bernie won in the 2016 primary.

[Incredulity 11555]

1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

"HI!"

Bernie: Master of the Charm Offensive

TIL: Bernie owns a comb.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

I am going to make an effort not to bash Bernie because I think he’s in it for the right reasons but some of his supporters scare the shit out me because they remind me of the Trumpers. 

Edited February 19, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[bad_teammate 13132]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I am going to make an effort not to bash Bernie because I think he’s in it for the right reasons but some of his supporters scare the shit out me because they remind me of the Trumpers. 

No. Bernie's voter base was much younger than Hillary's (Trump's base was old as hell).

But the 2016 primary will never die in the hearts of furious shitlibs, so ignore facts and reason.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

Just now, bad_teammate said:

No. Bernie's voter base was much younger than Hillary's (Trump's base was old as hell).

But the 2016 primary will never die in the hearts of furious shitlibs, so ignore facts and reason.

I know I’m talking to a wall here but the Bernie supporters will defend him to the death and ignore anything that emerges that might tarnish his reputation.  They will fake news it away just like the Trump supporters.  That shit is pisses me off to no end.

[bad_teammate 13132]

Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I know I’m talking to a wall here but the Bernie supporters will defend him to the death and ignore anything that emerges that might tarnish his reputation.  They will fake news it away just like the Trump supporters.  That shit is pisses me off to no end.

Like what? Let's talk.

Don't whine vaguely, say something.

[David Dennison 18656]

I voted for Bernie in the 2016 primary.

I will not vote for him in 2020 unless he's the nominee.

[bad_teammate 13132]

ANGRY GRANDPA WITH HIS ARMY OF HATE BROS

[bad_teammate 13132]

Bernie rules

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

4 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Like what? Let's talk.

Don't whine vaguely, say something.

 

We’ve been over the issues before.  You respond mostly by ridiculing me and then give me the same talking points Bernie puts out.  

 

Just like the Trump supporters. 

Edited February 19, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[NowThis 931]

love Bernie but , since he's a nice guy, his softness is a detriment when he goes up against evil thrashers like a Ted Cruz or Trump. Cruz ripped Bernie to pieces in their healthcare debate on CNN last year. Bern just isn't that good a slick talker as are others. So, his heart is golden, not a slave to any big corp, but damn, he'll be crushed in debates. 

[bad_teammate 13132]

21 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

We’ve been over the issues before.  You respond mostly by ridiculing me and then give me the same talking points Bernie puts out.  

 

Just like the Trump supporters. 

Look who likes this shit. Learn something.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

So where can I find Bernie’s tax returns?

[David Dennison 18656]

2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

So where can I find Bernie’s tax returns?

1040 not enough? 

[bad_teammate 13132]

Just now, sublime said:

What's his stance on guns?

Bernie on guns

 

[Hank Scorpio 17723]

God this thread is going to be great. Bookmarked. 

[Hank Scorpio 17723]

I heard a Bernie Bro say that everyone should have healthcare and it reminded me of the Trump supporters who chant lock her up. Man, they really are the same and the only people who can't see that are insane leftists. 

[bad_teammate 13132]

20 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

So where can I find Bernie’s tax returns?

Here's one.

I'd be interested to know what the concern or implication here is.

[Hank Scorpio 17723]

1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

Bernie rules

This 45 second clip is better than anything any other Democratic nominee has said all year. Except when Kamala Harris said she was smoking mids listening to Tupac while she was employed as a DA and her office was prosecuting minor drug offenses. That was pretty bad ass. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

7 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Here's one.

I'd be interested to know what the concern or implication here is.

Transparency issues.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/apr/06/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-has-released-few-tax-returns-compar/

[GSU&UT 1798]

4 minutes ago, sublime said:

I don't want Bernie campaign material. You know his record is previously mixed, and newly opportunistic. Just like everybody else, he's a prevaricating politician.

I mean, he's directly gonna blot out Elizabeth Warren, just to celebrate himself. And as an avowed independent and a radical socialist, he's opening the door wide for Howard Schultz, while seemingly pleasing Donald Trump.

He's misreading the winds completely. And the majority of Democrats on this site don't appear the slightest bit enthused.

If we're combing through the bin of old white guys, I'll take Biden in a heartbeat. I bet he'll pick a female Veep.

Okay, so you're just a weird concern-troll or something. Biden has much much heavier baggage than Bernie.

[Hank Scorpio 17723]

3 minutes ago, sublime said:

I don't want Bernie campaign material. You know his record is previously mixed, and newly opportunistic. Just like everybody else, he's a prevaricating politician.

I mean, he's directly gonna blot out Elizabeth Warren, just to celebrate himself. And as an avowed independent and a radical socialist, he's opening the door wide for Howard Schultz, while seemingly pleasing Donald Trump.

 He's misreading the winds completely. And the majority of Democrats on this site don't appear the slightest bit enthused.

If we're combing through the bin of old white guys, I'll take Biden in a heartbeat. I bet he'll pick a female Veep.

Yes. YES. This is the trash that will keep this thread going. MORE! 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

Bernie has some red flags, perceived or otherwise. (transparency issues, Russia issues, lack of specifics, not a real democrat).

He got away with it in 2016 because no one saw him as a legitimate threat.  Hillary held off attacking him too much because she needed his voters.  2020 is going to be a different ball game for Mr. Bernard.

However, I’m glad he’s in the race and trying to actually debate the ideas/issues.  

[Hank Kingsley 20700]

Bernie gifs are the best. 

 

[bad_teammate 13132]

28 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Transparency issues.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/apr/06/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-has-released-few-tax-returns-compar/

Are you under a court order that forbids you from making clear, cogent arguments? Will you be arrested if you actually say something intelligible?

I don't care about Bernie's tax returns. Maybe if there was some rumor of impropriety I would care more. Let me know if something important or interesting happens with regard to Bernie's taxes.

14 minutes ago, sublime said:

I don't want Bernie campaign material. You know his record is previously mixed, and newly opportunistic. Just like everybody else, he's a prevaricating politician.

I mean, he's directly gonna blot out Elizabeth Warren, just to celebrate himself. And as an avowed independent and a radical socialist, he's opening the door wide for Howard Schultz, while seemingly pleasing Donald Trump.

He's misreading the winds completely. And the majority of Democrats on this site don't appear the slightest bit enthused.

If we're combing through the bin of old white guys, I'll take Biden in a heartbeat. I bet he'll pick a female Veep.

Oh... you're a troll. Damn, I thought someone interesting had shown up.

[Dropout 355]

2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I know I’m talking to a wall here but the Bernie supporters will defend him to the death and ignore anything that emerges that might tarnish his reputation.  They will fake news it away just like the Trump supporters.  That shit is pisses me off to no end.

What’s the news? I will listen and go down any rabbit hole you want.

[NowThis 931]

42 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Bernie has some red flags, perceived or otherwise. (transparency issues, Russia issues, lack of specifics, not a real democrat).

He got away with it in 2016 because no one saw him as a legitimate threat.  Hillary held off attacking him too much because she needed his voters.  2020 is going to be a different ball game for Mr. Bernard.

However, I’m glad he’s in the race and trying to actually debate the ideas/issues.  

he has no red flags

[EuroHorn 3204]

White, old, and male. Three strikes for the Dems.  Not going to happen...