Bernie Sanders 2020 Watch

[bad_teammate 13523]

Bernie 1970 is Bernie 1990 is Bernie 2020

[Pancho 46307]

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Bernie is trying to compete with Biden on gaffes indicating some latent racist stereotypes.  Let’s see how it pays off for him. 

[F250 29201]

2 hours ago, Pancho said:

He isn't wrong.

I've had a cop point a gun at the back of my buddy's head while I stood next to him and had a gun pointed at me by a cop for loitering.

There isn't much you can do except report it after the fact.

[F250 29201]

Thinking about it now, I've had a number of encounters with the police where they grossly crossed the boundaries of legal restraint and there wasn't shit anyone could do about it. This might explain my lifelong hatred of cops.

[Anastasis 23718]

I’d tell them to never call the fucking cops and if you really are in danger go to the closest fire house. 

[bad_teammate 13523]

Can someone explain the problem with Bernie's answer?

Is it because he's talking about cops like they are power-tripping murderers?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

1 minute ago, bad_teammate said:

Is it because he's talking about cops like they are power-tripping murderers?

Nah, he’s perpetuating a stereotype that’s helpful.  “Fear the police and do exactly what they say so they don’t kill you and your dog.”

[GSU&UT 1799]

I seriously doubt you're getting a better answer from any other candidate. Also of course that wasn't the whole quote, but you know don't include that.

 

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

36 minutes ago, GSU&UT said:

I seriously doubt you're getting a better answer from any other candidate. Also of course that wasn't the whole quote, but you know don't include that.

 

 

Yeah, I can see that.  It’s an extraordinarily difficult question for someone in Bernie’s position to answer without offending someone. 

Bernie shouldn’t get dragged over this but the “shot in the back of the head” line was a little much.  A better answer would have been to envision an America where no one should fear the police and talk about what it will take from society to get us there. 

[bad_teammate 13523]

I seriously doubt you're getting a better answer from any other candidate. Also of course that wasn't the whole quote, but you know don't include that.
 
 

Wait are you telling me the criticism is disingenuous bullshit?!?!

I am shocked.

[GSU&UT 1799]

9 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Yeah, I can see that.  It’s an extraordinarily difficult question for someone in Bernie’s position to answer without offending someone. 

Bernie shouldn’t get dragged over this but the “shot in the back of the head” line was a little much.  A better answer would have been to envision an America where no one should fear the police and talk about what it will take from society to get us there. 

I'll definitely concede that he could have started the answer better, it's not good. I do think that a lot of people are using this in bad faith to attack him like a lot of other leftist are attacking Warred about her heritage.

I know Bernie isn't your top candidate, but he has made a considerable effort to try and appeal to more black voters this year, hence and trying to directly answer this question even though he fumbled it at HBCU.

[Hank Kingsley 21784]

33 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Wait are you telling me the criticism is disingenuous bullshit?!?!

I am shocked.

Yeah, who knew detractors would insincerely cherry pick quotes to make a candidate look bad? Looks like you and I agree on this bullshit tactic. 

 

 

[bad_teammate 13523]

Bernie's record on this is decades-long and unimpeachable.

[bad_teammate 13523]

Bernie in Michigan with Jack White & Rashida Tlaib

AOC rules
Tlaib rules a little more
Omar rules the most

[bad_teammate 13523]

Bernie is closest of the candidates to being good on Israel.

None of them are good on Israel (i.e., pro-BDS as a start), but this is the best we've got in front of us.

 

[NowThis 931]

1 minute ago, bad_teammate said:

Bernie is closest of the candidates to being good on Israel.

None of them are good on Israel (i.e., pro-BDS as a start), but this is the best we've got in front of us.

 

it takes a grumpy old Jew to speak about justice for the Palestinians.  Look at his courage. He's the best.

[bad_teammate 13523]

He's right, you know.

 

[NowThis 931]

22 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

He's right, you know.

 

it's much deeper than the Likud, it's Israeli Jewish society which happily props up far right politicians as BN or the one new, Gantz.

[Bruh Man 3160]

 

[bad_teammate 13523]

Jewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwnior Senator from Vermont

(Sorry for the 17-minute video. Feldman is hilarious.)

[bad_teammate 13523]

An adorable moment flanked by two different flavors of neckbeard.

[GSU&UT 1799]

Love Michael Brooks

[Grandioso 2592]

Salty Bernie is my fav Bernie.


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[bad_teammate 13523]

"LOCK HIM UP!" is becoming a regular thing at Sanders rallies and I'm 100% here for it.

[bad_teammate 13523]

Ilhan fucking owns.

Bernie owns, also.

 

[ChiTownDoc 21345]

Bern fucking nailed that answer on what to do if you're brown/black and get pulled over by the cops.  Let's tapdance and give PC answers while innocent people are literally getting shot/killed by agents of the government?  WTF?

[bad_teammate 13523]

If you want to win the general vs. Trump, get behind Bernie.

I don't think this poll is the most important thing in the world.

This poll is among likely voters only, which is not even Bernie's strength. These Upshot polls don't take into account Bernie's huge potential to bring in young and poor voters. Warren and Biden do not have that kind of potential, but Sanders does.

VS. Trump in the Blue Wall states...
Biden +6
Bernie +5
Warren -6

I would rather Warren win the nomination than Joe. I'd rather fight for good policy and leadership than just accept Joe's garbage because he's more likely to win. But if you want progressive change AND a safe general election path...

[bad_teammate 13523]

One of my favorite Bernie lines is "I know who I am and where I came from." Simple and powerful.

 

 

[bad_teammate 13523]

Shut the fuck up, liberal.

[bad_teammate 13523]

Day 1 of Bernie's presidency:
- Moratorium on deportations
- End ICE raids
- End family separation policy
- Halt wall construction
- Close for-profit detention centers
- Allow asylum claims for gang violence
- End discrimination against poor/disabled applicants

A lot more on executive authority, which as we learned in the Obama administration is often hollow victory. The key difference, of course, is that Sanders is going to actually use the bully pulpit as Organizer-in-Chief to motivate the masses to pressure Congresspeople to pass actual legislation. Any candidate selling themselves as the central figure of power will just be another Obama whose work will be 99% undone by the racist clown horror that follows him.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

So not open borders?  Immigration has been one area where Bernie has historically drifted more to the center than most people give him credit or notice.  

While healthcare is the #1 issue for Democratic voters, I suspect he’s well aware immigration in the #1 issue among Republican voters. 

Bernie’s plan is a good plan. 

[bad_teammate 13523]

1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

So not open borders?  Immigration has been one area where Bernie has historically drifted more to the center than most people give him credit or notice.  

Yep, Bernie is and has always been the compromise candidate.

His base is the people who will soon start building guillotines. If we want incrementalist reforms to an abusive capitalist system that will mitigate the damage but still allow disgusting wealth concentration, Bernie's the guy. (And Warren to a lesser extent. Everyone to the right of Warren on economics is basically pointless or outright detrimental.)

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Bernie’s plan is a good plan. 

Bernie will do for now. (not like he's got much choice in the matter, the ancient bastard)

I want a candidate who talks about how open borders are a noble and morally necessary goal because the only reason we have to lock our borders down from a non-racist perspective is the terrible effects of global economic inequality.

In a world of higher economic equality, borders simply don't matter. This is the case already for the rich; borders don't matter, you can buy your way through basically any of them at any time.

Nations themselves are little more than protective castles for wealth.

[bad_teammate 13523]

Rich people think the compromise is between racist wealth-worshippers and woke wealth-worshippers.

The real compromise is between all wealth-worshippers and the 99%.

 

[GSU&UT 1799]

I love that Bernie has outright contempt for these billionaires whereas Warren just says we need higher taxes.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Bernie is probably a little irritated the billionaires seem more afraid of Warren than him. 

[bad_teammate 13523]

 

[GSU&UT 1799]

54 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Bernie is probably a little irritated the billionaires seem more afraid of Warren than him. 

Bernie has been railing against billionaires for the past 40 years? I don't think he cares what they think about Warren.

[bad_teammate 13523]

It's true

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

I suppose a Berner dream scenario would be Biden and Liz taking each other out while Bernie quietly wins primaries.   At some point you’ve got to wonder why Warren is taking all the bullets for advocating for some of Bernie’s ideas.    

[BradInATX 9208]

32 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I suppose a Berner dream scenario would be Biden and Liz taking each other out while Bernie quietly wins primaries.   At some point you’ve got to wonder why Warren is taking all the bullets for advocating for some of Bernie’s ideas.    

Bernie has already mostly taken all of same bullets years ago. And Liz is the front runner du jour, so of course the spotlight is on her. 

[bad_teammate 13523]

Liz is being attacked by the same forces that have spent the last 4 years going after Bernie. Some of this is new to Liz now that she has shown she'll stiffen her backbone; they were much nicer when they thought they could manipulate her. So it sucks that she's in the barrel right now, but Bernie's been in the barrel since April and he will remain there for the rest of his public life.

The class interests that dominate mass media do not want M4A. As Bernie pointed out in Debate #1, there will be healthcare insurance ads running during the same debate that pay the salaries of the "moderators" running the debate and the bills of the channel hosting the debate.

This is the reality of actually being progressive/left. Every wealth-class interest hates you, from the Bill Gates's who are happy to vote for genocidal fascists to ensure they have $150B instead of just $10B to the DC/NYC media class that is desperate for that billionaire money to the unpaid posters who spend their time feeling the need to defend those same billionaires.

Welcome their hatred.

[ChickenSandwich 9959]

On 11/7/2019 at 8:24 AM, bad_teammate said:

Day 1 of Bernie's presidency:
- Moratorium on deportations
- End ICE raids
- End family separation policy
- Halt wall construction
- Close for-profit detention centers
- Allow asylum claims for gang violence
- End discrimination against poor/disabled applicants

A lot more on executive authority, which as we learned in the Obama administration is often hollow victory. The key difference, of course, is that Sanders is going to actually use the bully pulpit as Organizer-in-Chief to motivate the masses to pressure Congresspeople to pass actual legislation. Any candidate selling themselves as the central figure of power will just be another Obama whose work will be 99% undone by the racist clown horror that follows him.

The sad thing is that these policies will be so destructive to the country, the damage can not be undone.  Willing to destroy the country because the media makes their puppets dance...orange man bad.

And LMAO saying this isn't open borders....when you incentivize something......but fuck our working poor and public schools and affordable housing etc etc etc.

[bad_teammate 13523]

The only one who called for Lula's release.

The only one with a humane and developed foreign policy vision.

 

[BradInATX 9208]

The sad thing is that these policies will be so destructive to the country, the damage can not be undone.  Willing to destroy the country because the media makes their puppets dance...orange man bad.
And LMAO saying this isn't open borders....when you incentivize something......but fuck our working poor and public schools and affordable housing etc etc etc.

None of those policies equate to open borders. Try to be less of a simpleton.

[bad_teammate 13523]

 

[bad_teammate 13523]

 

AOC is really, really fucking good

"We don't watch the polls, we change the polls."

"This is not a movie, this is a movement."

Edited November 9, 2019 by bad_teammate

[Hank Scorpio 17924]

Once Bernie wins the first few primaries I bet these rallies get a lot more entertaining. Just pulling all the pod save america guys up onto the stage and berating them until they confess to being class traitors and are sent back to the camps for reeducation.  

[bad_teammate 13523]

We already kind of do this with dragging on social media, but dunce caps and toilet lids would definitely add to the effect.

[bad_teammate 13523]

Don't know where this fits but its perfect for Bernie-curious CHUDs who are constantly looking around to find the misogyny and racism they were told would exist amongst the Bernie Bros, but isn't actually there of course.