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Hank Scorpio
Hank Scorpio

When Bernie is president only the rich children will be put in cages. 

Johnny Sack
Johnny Sack

Watching you commie fucks lose this election is going to be enjoyable. 

Longhorn_Fan68
Longhorn_Fan68

it is really, really stupid that in the richest country in the world people are dying from lack of insulin. it's unconscionable, really.

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The Dem 2020 thread is overrun with centrist white guys who are convinced that they are the center of the universe.

As I go, so goes the nation, they think.

While that's true for all Republican politicians and most center-right Democratic politicians, they do not represent the entire nation and they certainly don't represent progressive bases.

Is Bernie going to win white male voters with 401ks in the suburbs? No. None of the Democratic candidates will. Trump is going to win white men easily.

Bernie's case, win or lose, fail or succeed, is with the type of voter that is invisible here and also those who don't regularly vote.

 

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The only thing that really makes me think IT'S HAPPENING is that a member of the DNC convention committee is running attack ads against him in Iowa.

Polling is polling. All the volunteers in the world don't matter if the product isn't attractive or if they're talking to the wrong market; could just be a campaign spinning its wheels really fast and we confuse RPMs for MPH.

And I don't even trust in the "ooh, our opponents have special insight" honestly, it's just a straw that is breaking the camel's back. At some point so many things line up that my cynicism regarding his chances is breached.

Gonna phonebank later tonight. All I can really do at this point.

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27 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

The Dem 2020 thread is overrun with centrist white guys who are convinced that they are the center of the universe.

As I go, so goes the nation, they think.

While that's true for all Republican politicians and most center-right Democratic politicians, they do not represent the entire nation and they certainly don't represent progressive bases.

Is Bernie going to win white male voters with 401ks in the suburbs? No. None of the Democratic candidates will. Trump is going to win white men easily.

Bernie's case, win or lose, fail or succeed, is with the type of voter that is invisible here and also those who don't regularly vote.

 

It's absolutely fucking amazing the feedback loop of hearing MSM say "Bernie can't beat Trump because of SCARY SOCIALISM" and they come to internalize it and repeat it while so many fucking people don't watch a single second of bullshit on MSNBC and CNN. If Bernie beats expectations of polling in Iowa by flipping 2016 Republican caucus voters and people who sat out then I will have a great feeling that he can beat Trump.

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FYI for the poll watchers - Nate Silver at 538 tweaked his model. With the tweak, his numbers may look like Biden got a momentum bump. That would not be true. 

https://twitter.com/greg06897/status/1222547071900753922

https://twitter.com/ericrhare/status/1222524607879532544

 

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People Power for Bernie is huge in terms of keeping Bernie honest and functioning as a counterweight to corporate/establishment power.

This is great.



These movements working together makes them stronger. The fact that they are independent organizations focused on their own specific policy goals makes them willing to leave if not served by Bernie's policy efforts.

(While Our Revolution is independent of Bernie, it's tied to him historically.)

Something I like is that this alliance is not centralized. If you want to help, you donate to one of the groups, not PPFB.

So if you care most about a young peoples movement for climate justice, donate to Sunrise.

If you care most about immigration justice, donate to Make the Road.

If you care most about prison reform, donate to Dream Defenders.

And the second Bernie goes against those issues, the group and your money can get out. Uncaptured by DC. Legally incapable of coordinating with Bernie.
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100% chance that is going to be used in an attack ad and I'm here for it.
Also here. Hooting and hollering, firing two AR-15s in the air. Bare-ass naked.

Tlaib rules. Absolutely fucking rules.

Who is going to use that as an attack ad? Which candidate wants Clinton failure stench on them?

Wooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!
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3 hours of phonebanking done and boy are my ears tired.

A couple people mad that I interrupted dinner. Apologized profusely and expressed hope they enjoyed their meals. One guy apologized for being short with me after that, some people are thoroughly disarmed when I turn up my East Texas accent. One lady told me that she was voting for Bernie since he was Obama's VP; I didn't argue. Another lady told me her son talked her into Andrew Yang but she's probably going to caucus for Amy Klobuchar if he can't go with her (lol owned). 3-4 Peteheads. 1-2 YangGangers.

Most calls are voicemail or hang-ups, of course.

One woman said she saw AOC speak and is "in love" and wants AOC to be president.

"Stop wasting your time and go fuck yourself" from an angry MAGA. Little does he know that I LOVE wasting my time. Joke's on him!

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7 hours ago, Johnny Sack said:

Watching you commie fucks lose this election is going to be enjoyable. 

It'll be so nice to watch you rot away in a re-education camp while we take literally all your money and give them to transgender biracial families that burn the flag every morning.

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Just a reminder of where Martin Malley has been selling his soul . . .

Democrats as inauthentic opposition to Republicans for corporate interests . . . and the Koch Bros. Business as usual for third-way/DLC corporate "Democrats."

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Created by Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley and Senator Mark Begich of Alaska, the NewDEAL is one of several cash-rich efforts to resurrect the Democratic Party's flailing bench of electable candidates.

This NewDEAL has little in common with President Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal platform, which pledged to save capitalism from itself by cracking down on predatory banking institutions and restoring workplace rights for Americans.

VICE has obtained a "supporter list" showing donors of the NewDEAL, which reads like a who's who of corporations seeking government access: Comcast, Fluor, Merck, Microsoft, New York Life, Pfizer, Qualcomm, Verizon, Wal-Mart, the Private Equity Growth Capital Council, among others, including, of course, the host of Tuesday's event, ANGA.

While the disclosure of a secret list of political funders is always a worthwhile revelation, it's also worth noting that the same corporate forces that Democrats are leaning on are propping up the far-right tilt of the Republicans as well. On the local level, meaning state legislative races, there are two competing committees, the RSLC for the GOP and DLCC for Dems. A VICE review of recent campaign filings show that the two committees share many of the same top 25 donors: Wal-Mart, Pfizer, tobacco giant Reynolds America, PhRMA (a drug industry trade group), AT&T, and Comcast cut the biggest checks for both the RSLC and the DLCC.

Who helped lead the DLC in its own conflict with Democratic populists? A scoop by journalist Robert Dreyfuss over a decade ago exposed the fact that the DLC was not only bankrolled by the country's largest corporations (including present day NewDEAL donors Verizon, Merck, and Microsoft) but that the DLC was being steered by two lobbyists from Koch Industries. One of them, Rich Fink, has been the brains behind much of the Koch brothers' sprawling political network, which the energy barons shamelessly use to protect their bottom line at the expense of our planet.

Of course, not every corporate Democrat organ is a Koch front. But the Koch brothers probably didn't have a progressive renaissance is mind when they invested in one camp of the Democratic Party's civil war. And corporations don't bankroll candidates out of a sense of charity; they expect something in return. In this corporate cash-driven system, choosing Democrats that don't offend business interests is an old story. Which is to say there's not all that much new about the NewDEAL.

 

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/7b74ya/the-democratic-party-future-dark-money-fracking

 

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