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Hank Scorpio
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When Bernie is president only the rich children will be put in cages. 

Johnny Sack
Johnny Sack

Watching you commie fucks lose this election is going to be enjoyable. 

Longhorn_Fan68
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it is really, really stupid that in the richest country in the world people are dying from lack of insulin. it's unconscionable, really.

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14 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

This makes no sense. Is Bernie only to be questioned by Aqua?

 

If you're on record saying you aren't voting for the Democratic nominee if it's Bernie then why should I entertain any of your criticisms? You're choosing an authoritarian extreme racist that implemented concentration camps over someone who's scaring you because the economy will collapse instantly!!

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1 minute ago, GSU&UT said:

If you're on record saying you aren't voting for the Democratic nominee if it's Bernie then why should I entertain any of your criticisms? You're choosing an authoritarian extreme racist that implemented concentration camps over someone who's scaring you because the economy will collapse instantly!!

His rape fantasies are a little scary

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His rape fantasies are a little scary

That came up in 2015 and it didn't amount to anything because he was literally questioning gender norms, but you didn't read the actual essay did you?

https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/05/29/410606045/the-bernie-sanders-rape-fantasy-essay-explained

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2 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

says the person objectifying women in his avatar

his avatar is literally the only redeeming feature of his existence here

4 minutes ago, immortal13 said:

His rape fantasies are a little scary

I appreciate this contribution, because we libs and dems and lefties are kind of in a little bubble right now and it's nice to see disgusting, lying, right-wing pieces of human trash pop their heads up and give us a preview of the war to come.

One thing I hope my fellow snowflakes get from it is a sense of who exactly they are going to be up against and ask themselves seriously whether or not their favored candidate and their favored candidate's followers can handle it.

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16 minutes ago, GSU&UT said:

If you're on record saying you aren't voting for the Democratic nominee if it's Bernie then why should I entertain any of your criticisms? You're choosing an authoritarian extreme racist that implemented concentration camps over someone who's scaring you because the economy will collapse instantly!!

I wont be voting for Bernie, I don't believe m4a and college is a right. I do hope he does win the primary since he is the much more sincere candidate who actually believes the things he say.

Yeah, i liked Trump's idea of making Mexico pay for it by making thier much smaller border our wall. I agree that the kids shouldn't be in cages though, and hopefully with Mexico doing it's job that our border crossings will go down and will reduce border patrol for the most part.

 

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I’m gonna give B_T the benefit of the doubt and assume he has me on ignore and is not avoiding my questions. That’s reasonable given my lack of popularity here. 

I know he’s one of the more radical posters here, but I just wonder if he and his ilk have really thought through the implications of massive amounts of wealth confiscation and “forced liquidations”. 
 

Forced liquidations by their nature cause exaggerated drops in price of the underlying assets. Let’s say you want to force super wealthy to sell large amounts of equities.  The massive selling of these holdings will tank their value. The price drop would actually probably start before that as people front run it. Anyway, these stock, bond price drops affect the portfolios of all the American that hold any. You’ve pointed out it’s less than 50% of Americans. True, but it’s still a significant amount of Americans whose retirement savings will be slashed, many of them in the middle class. This is all without taking into account potential systemic effects on the banking system of massive stock market crash caused by direct government fiat. It’s a complex system that will definitely suffer unintended consequences. 

Then let’s assume we’re forcing massive sales of real estate. The same phenomenon would happen there as well. I think there would be less trickle down there to average Americans, but I’m not sure. I’d have to think big downward pressure in commercial real estate would have negative effects that go beyond super rich people struggling to find merely rich people to buy their real estate. 
 

I think these scenarios are unlikely to happen, but you said it’d be ideal. You could potentially break the entire system which might be the point actually, but I think that helps the average American less than you think. 
 

 

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So Bernie comments on a dead guy and the right wing media freaks out. It should go without saying that a dead guy is very little threat to the country. 

Meanwhile dear leader trump tickles the balls of dear leader rocket man while writing him middle school love letters and our resident trolls just shrug it off even though Kim Jon ung or however you spell his name is making nuclear weapons that could blow us up. 
 

Y’all realize that it don’t make a fuck who the dems nominate the right wing media and troll army will just make up whatever bullshit they think fits their pea brain narrative. 
 

 

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15 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

- loves Castro
- says women have rape fantasies
- says women should have orgasms or else they might get cancer
- says toddlers should feel free to run around naked and touch each other's genitals

What else are we working with today? The discourse is moving fast.

The ongoing Cuba gaffe is bad politics.

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One of you Bernie Bros in Austin drive a silver Jeep Compass with bumper stickers that say Firefly, Serenity, and Bernie 2020?  License plate JRG 6292.  
 

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41 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

The ongoing Cuba gaffe is bad politics.

No. It's Good, Actually.

Bernie is going to very credibly run as the most anti-war, anti-deep state candidate possible. Young people are going to LOVE this shit. Anyone under 45 knows our nation is a fucking global terror and wants it to be something better.

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The Bernie sticker and hipster beard are all I have to go on.  I know this is a political thread, not the public outing thread.  But he ran a red light between cars turning left on a protected green which almost caused him to barrel into me who was taking a right on a protected arrow...all in front of our preschool.  So he could scream down Bee Caves doing 65, all to get to Chevron to pump gas.  Could have killed a lot of kids.  He also drives for ride sharing companies.  I’m sure he’s only separated by one degree from someone on this thread.  
not being an internet tough guy, just want the guy to come forward and apologize.

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1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

The ongoing Cuba gaffe is bad politics.

 

24 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

No. It's Good, Actually.

Bernie is going to very credibly run as the most anti-war, anti-deep state candidate possible. Young people are going to LOVE this shit. Anyone under 45 knows our nation is a fucking global terror and wants it to be something better.

i agree with dennison. there's a way to own this point of view without appearing to support castro. "he did some good things, too" could be argued for mussolini - he made the trains run on time. in italy. it doesn't mean he actually deserved praise for being a despot. i think sanders can say "he was a despot who overthrew a despot." he has the young people vote, sure - but that isn't going anywhere - they are already energized, and him praising castro policies doesn't help him politically, in my opinion.

i know you disagree, but it's okay for us to disagree on this front. 

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The problem is he claims to be condemning an authoritarian government and then immediately praises one of the policies of that authoritarian government.  The point isn't what the program was, the point is how and why it was implemented.

Even without all of that how can you vote for someone who was supposed to be a committed leftist revolutionary in his twenties in the 1960s who can't even get the lead singer of The Doors name right?

The Revolution Is Life Versus Death

 

by Bernard Sanders

 

Mr. Sanders, who has written several other thoughtful pieces for The Freeman, lives in Greensboro Bend, from which vantage point he takes a penetrating look at the world around him.

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The train pulls out of 14th street in Manhattan at 8:30 in the morning. Sleepy people, miserable people, hold on to the overhead straps and each other. (The seats have been filled up since way back in Brooklyn). It's another mass of hot dazed humanity heading uptown for the 9-5. Moron work, monotonous work, coffee breaks, office gossip, and 5 o'clock comes and the same train, the same mob of faceless people, turns around and heads the other way.

The train stops somewhere in Brooklyn, a crowd gets out, someone walks a few blocks into a 3 room apartment, family, dinner, arguments, TV and sleep. Eight-thirty the next morning the train is back on 14th street.

The years come and go, suicide, nervous breakdown, cancer, sexual deadness, heart attack, alcoholism, senility at 50. Slow death, fast death. DEATH.

And some people actually wonder why young people rebel, why there is a revolution taking place.

Lies, lies, lies, invasion, napalm torture bombings, annihilation of whole villages, body counts, and more lies.

"In defense of liberty", "against communist aggression", "to protect American interests", empty phrases, dead words spoken by dead people, lies. "Democracy" is a United States congress composed of millionaires and state legislatures controlled by lobbyists. (Does one American in a thousand know who represents him in his state legislature?). "Freedom" is an arm broken by Mayor Daley's cops, while nobody's choice for president kisses the television set as he is nominated in Chicago.

Somewhere in California, in Vermont, in New Mexico, in Colorado, and in everyplace, new things are happening. A revolution is taking place - against strangulation. Life is fighting death, and Life will win.

Life is young (at any age), alive, open, and nonfearing. Life can take his clothes off and be naked with friends. He or she has nothing to hide. There is nothing pret­tier than the unclothed hu­man body.

In Miami, the American Legion sponsors a "rally for decency." Even Jackie Gleason attends. Ron Morrison of the Doors is arrested for giv­ing a lewd performance. He is "immoral." The President of the American Legion calls for more bombing of Viet­nam. "Bomb them into the stone age", the general says, after cocming out of church. This is the morality that civilization is made of. The general is "moral", Morrison is "immoral."

Because they have been good little children, and be­cause the judge this year is liberal, daddy is going to al­low everyone who is ever 18 to see "I Am Curious Yel­low". Yes, you can see naked people and even sexual inter­course right in your local movie theatre. And 300,000 people (over 18) lined up, like good little girls and boys, and saw it. Yes, son (age 90), that's how other people do it.

In Vermont, at a state beach, a mother is repriman­ded by Authority for allow­ing her 6 month old daugh­ter to go about without her diapers on. Now, if children go around naked, they are liable to see each others sex­ual organs, and maybe even touch them. Terrible thing! If we bring children up like this it will probably ruin the whole pornography business, not to mention the large seg­ment of the general econo­my which makes its money by playing on peoples sexual frustrations.

The Revolution is coming and it is a very beautiful revolution. It is beautiful be­cause, in its deepest sense, it is quiet, gentle, and all per­vasive. It KNOWS. What is most important in this revo­lution will require no guns, no commandants, no screaming "leaders", and no vicious publications accusing everyone else of being coun­ter-revolutionary. The revo­lutionary. The revolution comes when two strangers smile at each other, when a father refusese to send his child to school because schools destroy children, when a commune is started and people begin to trust each other, when a young man refuses to go to war, and when a girl pushes aside all that her mother has "taught" her and accepts her boy­friends love.

The revolution comes when young people throughout the world take control of their own lives, and when people everywhere begin to look each other in the eye and say hello, without fear. This is the revolution, this is the strength; and with this be­hind us no politician or gen­eral will ever stop us. We shall win!

 

VERMONT FREEMAN

WEEKEND NOVEMBER, 14-17, 1969

https://veresay.livejournal.com/40293.html

 

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23 minutes ago, EMAWesome said:

The problem is he claims to be condemning an authoritarian government and then immediately praises one of the policies of that authoritarian government.  The point isn't what the program was, the point is how and why it was implemented.

Even without all of that how can you vote for someone who was supposed to be a committed leftist revolutionary in his twenties in the 1960s who can't even get the lead singer of The Doors name right?

 

 

Fuck off troll.

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22 hours ago, TexasEd said:

We need an actuary on the odds he makes it through his first term.

Sanders was born three months before Pearl Harbor.  He'll be 79 at the inauguration.  If you look at the social security tables, he'll have on average just under 9 years to live.  Reasonable odds of making it through one term but maybe not two.

Trump is younger but with his diet, weight and stressful job he is a cardiac case waiting to happen.

 

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7 hours ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Is it really true ?  Did Bernie actually praise Field Castro on the Sunday news shows ?

He's been praising them fore decades:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/25/politics/bernie-sanders-praise-authoritarian-leftist-regimes/index.html

"You may recall way back in, when was it,1961 they invaded Cuba and the, everybody was totally convinced the Castro was the worst guy in the world. All the Cuban people were going to rise up in rebellion against Fidel Castro," Sanders said, discussing the logic behind the Kennedy administration's failed Bay of Pigs coup."They had forgotten that he educated the kids, gave them health care, totally transformed the society."

 
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It is absolutely AMAZING that a frontrunner for a major party nomination is on stage talking (angrily) about the overthrow of Salvador Allende, Arbenz (had to look this up because I wasn't confident I had the name right, and glad I did because I was DEAD wrong), and Mossadegh.

I know that probably doesn't mean much to most people, but if you actually care about defanging the military industrial complex and the intelligence state, then having someone with the balls to name that shit out loud is key.

 

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8 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

It is absolutely AMAZING that a frontrunner for a major party nomination is on stage talking (angrily) about the overthrow of Salvador Allende, Arbenz (had to look this up because I wasn't confident I had the name right, and glad I did because I was DEAD wrong), and Mossadegh.

I know that probably doesn't mean much to most people, but if you actually care about defanging the military industrial complex and the intelligence state, then having someone with the balls to name that shit out loud is key.

 

It was his best answer of the night. 

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One of the wildest things about our healthcare system is that it's so fundamentally broken that we spend more public money per capita than many countries with socialized healthcare (public spending in blue, private spending in black in the chart below).

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https://www.statista.com/statistics/283221/per-capita-health-expenditure-by-country/

To support this system you have to either be totally indoctrinated or work for an insurer (or stand to materially benefit in some other way).  I'm sure though the real reason for this disparity is that Americans are just lazy piece of shit gluttons by nature compared to say Canadians.  

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So administrative bloat in health care/health insurance is bad (and I agree, btw)?  But public school districts are made more effective by administrative bloat?  

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