Bernie Sanders 2020 Watch

[Hank Kingsley 20689]

The "center" needs to move WAY  left from its current position. Period.  That doesn't happen without Bernie-esque ideas being discussed seriously. 

 

 

 

[Bama Chick 28596]

I’m perfectly fine with the discussion and the ideas moving to the left.

What I’m not fine with is the dismissive and obnoxious and shitty way Bernie supporters treated other Democrats after the primaries in 2016 and the way some of them have been acting this go around.

It’s not as pervasive this time because I think Bernie himself has dialed it back and he’s got people around him pushing a more harmonious message.

You may think that kind of thing doesn’t matter but I won’t forget the crap that was pulled at the 2016 convention and the early hit jobs leveled at other candidates for being “corporate democrats”.

I think a lot of that nonsense has stopped for now because it wasn’t getting traction and was resulting in backlash because no matter who democrats are initially supporting, everyone seems to be agreeing that whoever wins will get our support no matter what to defeat Trump.

Any unnecessary shitting on someone who might be the eventual nominee isn’t needed.

Discuss throwing out old ideas. Fuck off when you say you want to throw out actual voters.

[Hank Kingsley 20689]

I don't want to throw out Hillary voters. I want them out of power within the party. 

 

 

[David Dennison 18656]

55 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

How about just pretend Hillary and her supporters don’t exist instead of projecting some internal bias on them?

That would be a lot easier if they would all shut the fuck up and stay out of the media.

[GSU&UT 1798]

23 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

I’m perfectly fine with the discussion and the ideas moving to the left.

What I’m not fine with is the dismissive and obnoxious and shitty way Bernie supporters treated other Democrats after the primaries in 2016 and the way some of them have been acting this go around.

It’s not as pervasive this time because I think Bernie himself has dialed it back and he’s got people around him pushing a more harmonious message.

You may think that kind of thing doesn’t matter but I won’t forget the crap that was pulled at the 2016 convention and the early hit jobs leveled at other candidates for being “corporate democrats”.

I think a lot of that nonsense has stopped for now because it wasn’t getting traction and was resulting in backlash because no matter who democrats are initially supporting, everyone seems to be agreeing that whoever wins will get our support no matter what to defeat Trump.

Any unnecessary shitting on someone who might be the eventual nominee isn’t needed.

Discuss throwing out old ideas. Fuck off when you say you want to throw out actual voters.

I do agree with you that cutting each other isn't going to help build a coalition, but the DNC actively worked against Bernie and tried to hide it. The "bros" (basically anyone under 35) didn't like this and gave Clinton some rightful shit over it. I've seen just as much crazy shit on Twitter from establishment Dems that are labelling Bernie as some sort of Putin puppet, which is just as insane as continuing to re-litigate the 2016 primary.

[Bama Chick 28596]

Tad Devine and the rest of Bernie’s 2016 media advisers from 2016 just resigned from the 2020 campaign.

Isn’t Devine the one that worked with Manafort?

What the hell was Bernie doing still employing him?

[ChiTownDoc 21101]

Republican operatives (foreign and domestic) read this thread and be like...’good, gooooood’.  

[ChiTownDoc 21101]

11 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

Tad Devine and the rest of Bernie’s 2016 media advisers from 2016 just resigned from the 2020 campaign.

Isn’t Devine the one that worked with Manafort?

What the hell was Bernie doing still employing him?

I knew I liked you.  Fuck the Bern...

[bad_teammate 13132]

1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I wish Bernie was a proud democrat. 

Why? What does that even mean?

2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Sanders kept his shtick going all the way up to the convention when he was already soundly defeated.  That sure as shit didn’t help. 

Yeah it was kind of screwed up when someone asked him why he hadn't dropped out and he said, “We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California.”

15 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

Tad Devine and the rest of Bernie’s 2016 media advisers from 2016 just resigned from the 2020 campaign.

Isn’t Devine the one that worked with Manafort?

What the hell was Bernie doing still employing him?

Tad Devine is a political strategist that has worked with multiple Democratic presidential campaigns. He worked in the Ukraine, sure, but so have dozens of other political strategists.

I'd be interesting in what the implication here is, though.

[Hank Scorpio 17723]

We need to listen to former Hillary staffers and campaign people if Trump is going to be defeated. Who better to tell the party how to win that the people responsible for losing the easiest, most slam dunk election in the past 50 years? Clearly these people know what they are doing and should be in charge. 

Edited February 26, 2019 by Hank Scorpio

[bad_teammate 13132]

If you want to beat Trump, running a Democrat who is not a "proud" Democrat (whatever that means) is a really good idea. Why? The Democratic Party isn't a strong brand.

Obama didn't win because he was a "proud Democrat", he won because people liked him and his vision.

Beto didn't surge in Texas because he was a "proud Democrat", he surged because people liked him and his vision.

[Bama Chick 28596]

The “proud democrat” stuff is garbage.

It’s going to be someone with an uplifting, soaring message (Beto, Harris) or a complete 180 from Trump (Sanders, Warren) that will capture the enthusiasm of the electorate.

The ho hum, traditional type (Castro, Booker, Biden, Gillibrand) won’t cut it.

But I do think if one of them starts getting dirty or starts going absurdly negative on other Democrats, the voters are going to punish them.

I think the first campaign that goes that route will find out things have really changed.

(But I still want the dirt on the shake up in the Sanders staff that went down today. Because I’m a nosy gossip.)

[bad_teammate 13132]

NY Times

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But after running a highly improvisational campaign against Hillary Clinton, Mr. Sanders has been taking steps toward a more conventional race this time. He hired a new campaign manager, Faiz Shakir, the former A.C.L.U. political director, and the three consultants had little say in the decision to replace his 2016 manager, Jeff Weaver.

Mr. Shakir, who did not know that the strategists were planning to quit, had not even yet met with them. Mr. Sanders’s new team said little about the surprise exit of the consultants’ firm, known as Devine, Mulvey and Longabaugh. “The campaign appreciates all the good work DML has done and wishes them well,” said Mr. Shakir in a statement.

I like the change, personally.

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Mr. Sanders, who struggled to win African-Americans voters, has made clear that he wanted a more diverse array of campaign advisers after largely surrounding himself with white men in 2016. The three consultants departing are all white, while Mr. Shakir will be the first Muslim in American history to run a presidential campaign.

And Mr. Sanders will hold a series of rallies this weekend that nod to his biography — a marked contrast to his 2016 campaign, when he eschewed talking about himself and relentlessly focused on his progressive policy agenda. He is appearing in Brooklyn, where he was born, and in Chicago, where he went to college and joined civil rights protests. The weekend tour will include a stop in Selma, Ala., for events marking the anniversary of Bloody Sunday there.

It's just amazing that he never actually talked about being arrested at a civil rights protest. The media dug those photos out of an archive and had to press Sanders to acknowledge it was him.

Those photos should be on billboards. It's insane.

[Bama Chick 28596]

Interesting. That’s kind of what I was referring to earlier when I said I can see a difference in his tone and messaging this go round. Coupled with his request this week for his supporters to knock off online bullying.

I’m sure we’ll hear some more behind the scenes drama stories in the next few days. Political reporters love that shit. Campaign staff shakeup stories are catnip to them.

lol Watch Devine and his Bros end up working for Schultz or someone equally as horrible.

[Bama Chick 28596]

Andddddd then I’m reminded why Bernie Bros can get fucked.

 

This young woman asked Bernie a question about sexual harassment in his staff and last campaign during his town hall.

 

And one of his Bros took it upon himself to fucking dox her and post her private information on Twitter.

 

Apparently because she’s of Iranian descent and interns for a lobbying firm, she deserves to be doxxed.

 

He’s trying to backtrack and defend it by saying she’s suspicious because NOW she’s changed her Twitter and Instagram handles.

 

Yeah, no shit she changed them after a bunch of online loser aggressive fuckfaces started harassing her!

 

 https://twitter.com/_celia_bedelia_/status/1100538733621858305?s=21

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BradInATX 9208]

I wonder if bad teammate has the self awareness hiding deep down necessary to realize that his "never admit wrongdoing, deflect, distract, straw man, and attack anything in sight instead of addressing valid criticisms" strategy is only rivaled by die-hard Trump supporters and Trump himself.

Edited February 27, 2019 by BradInATX

[bad_teammate 13132]

#Problematic, Bernie, rethink this

Also, doxxing is bad and the people who do it are wrong and bad.

Edited February 27, 2019 by bad_teammate

[EuroHorn 3204]

Lol, old white guy. #Progressive

[Coors yellow belly 105]

I love the word broad. That’s all

[Doc Sam Beckett 5784]

7 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

And FYI, I'm not a diehard Bernie supporter.  Right now my preference is 

1. Buttigieg

2. Warren

3. Sanders 

 

But Bernie's voice is crucial and important. Hillary believed in nothing, and I'm not going to coddle her supporters and tone down the rhetoric to Democrats that just want to return to some status quo. Eyes forward. 

 

 

 

 

Yeah I am leaning.... 

1. Buttigieg

2. Warren

3. Harris

[bad_teammate 13132]

(That Tweet isn't real. If you thought it was and were bothered, get ready for a long two years.)

1. BERNIE! WOO!
2. Warren
3. Buttigieg
4. Harris
5. One of the other ones or something I don't care they're all Dems and will be fine I'm happy with 'em
6. Literal global holocaust

100. Donald J. Trump

[Bama Chick 28596]

TIL Not coddling = being a dick

And of course doxxing is bad. So is making her ethnicity part of the conversation.

Let’s see if Bernie or his team responds because I saw over 400 tweets about this incident with his official Twitter handle tagged in them.

And don’t pretend like this is some kind of isolated incident. For all the shit y’all have been giving “shitlibs”, Bernie stans act like complete headasses online. Especially to women.

It’s like Gamergate but politics.

[GSU&UT 1798]

Doxxing is shitty, but pointing out she (and several people in that townhall) worked at lobbying firms isn't okay? And for all your complaining about Bernie Bros being white dudes, it's garbage and insulting to actual women and PoC who support him.

 

 

https://twitter.com/BenjaminPDixon/

[Bama Chick 28596]

She’s a college student in Washington DC who is doing a student internship at a lobbying firm.

 

NOTHING justifies doxxing someone asking a 100% legit question of a presidential candidate. Period.

 

And I haven’t mentioned one thing about the race of Bernie supporters.

 

Fuck off with that gaslighting deflection.

 

[GSU&UT 1798]

You're putting words in my mout and you didn't even respond to me pointing out how the DSA is hardly filled with a bunch of white dudes. No one deserves to be doxxed, that guy can fuck off and get harrassed for all I care. 

[Bama Chick 28596]

I never said it was filled with a bunch of white dudes.

I’m specifically calling out the asshole antics of the Bernie online stans.

They’re a subset of Bernie supporters but they’re the loudest and the least well behaved. They’re the ones that are going to get the attention.

It’s the job of the rest of the Bernie contingent and Bernie’s job to call out their shitty behavior. He shouldn’t want them representing him.

They’re the reason I and a lot of others have been put off.

And it isn’t just the doxxing and the bullying. You don’t win anyone over by insulting them and calling them names and belittling them and shouting them down.

The fact that you even excused that behavior even a little bit is gross.

So what if that young woman interns at a lobbying firm? We don’t even know what that firm lobbies for! It could be for big pharma or it could be for equal pay. Is it so surprising a college age woman would have concerns about Sanders’ organization having a history of being plagued with harassment towards women? It’s a completely legitimate question.

I mean, just look at the disgustingness.



I don’t care if she’s Hillary Clinton’s long lost love child, NOTHING excuses the nasty racist, sexist, foul mess of conclusions that asshole jumped to just because she dared to ask a question that might put his hero in a bad light.

Any attempt to excuse or deflect that behavior because “she works for a lobbyist” is gross and makes you as bad as the doxxing asshole.

[Anastasis 23395]

9 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

Yeah it was kind of screwed up when someone asked him why he hadn't dropped out and he said, “We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California.”

LOFL. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

 

[Anastasis 23395]

2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

That is less informative than what was already posted up thread.  But it has a frumpy face Bernie pic to go with it. Thanks for posting Hugo. 

[bad_teammate 13132]

I have no idea what the guy who doxxed the Iranian lobbyist girl was doing by pointing out her ethnicity (or even her name). Bad form.

Should Bernie respond to every meaningless Twitter dust-up when some outraged normie demands to speak to the manager? lol no

It's a presidential campaign and neither Bernie himself nor anyone meaningful in his campaign should be focused on this kind of absolute nonsense. Bernie said no one who supports him should harass people online. He also said all his primary voters should vote for Hillary in the general. The vast majority follow grandpa's orders and some go rogue.

Bernie is popular with young people. What do young people do online? Callouts, drags, and doxxing. Should they do it? Nope. Do young people do the things they should do? Nope.

He shouldn't have posted her name or ethnicity, but pointing out that the crowd was full of lobbyists is fine. And yes, we can know the lobbying her firm does. I don't think any of the questions were unfair, but given the DNC's handling of 2016 it's important to keep an eye on things.

(Also, do you think Bernie's actual response to her question counts? Or is it just about digging through the Twitter cess pool until you can find the proper victimhood reinforcer?)

Edited February 27, 2019 by bad_teammate

[GSU&UT 1798]

You're right Bama in that I shouldn't defend any part of that, it's wrong.

I still think the "bro" stereotype, which you have said before, is gross and hurtful to actual women and black people and other people of color who are working on his campaign and in the DSA. Even looking to try and point out men, and yes it is typically men, who are the nastiest online that support him you're choosing to demean the actual work of a diverse coalition.

[bad_teammate 13132]

Bernie's demographic is young, and he dominates there.

It's really not too complicated.

[bad_teammate 13132]

 

[bad_teammate 13132]

For you guys who, in good faith, don't know how Sanders reacted to Clinton's primary victory and how he supported her, watch this.

 

[Bama Chick 28596]

lol at that Conan video.

He looks like a ceramics teacher from New Hampshire in that jean jacket.

[bad_teammate 13132]

 

 

[Zonahorn 8079]

On ‎2‎/‎26‎/‎2019 at 5:15 PM, BradInATX said:

I wonder if bad teammate has the self awareness hiding deep down necessary to realize that his "never admit wrongdoing, deflect, distract, straw man, and attack anything in sight instead of addressing valid criticisms" strategy is only rivaled by die-hard Trump supporters and Trump himself.

You are stupid.

[bad_teammate 13132]

Do you see?! DO YOU SEE!? YOU ARE PRIVY TO A GREAT BECOMING

 

[EuroHorn 3204]

The DNC will take care of Bernie again...

[bad_teammate 13132]

Politico is gonna ride Bernie/Hillary for clicks until the end of time.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

[bad_teammate 13132]

Belen is a DREAMer

 

[Bama Chick 28596]

[bad_teammate 13132]

love to signal boost obvious Russian bots to own the libs

(DREAMers are American and that joke is racist)

Edited March 2, 2019 by bad_teammate

[Bama Chick 28596]

Aw, have Berners lost their sense of humor?

It’s a pretty obvious dig at the bullshit rhetoric that immigrants are only good enough for jobs “beneath” Americans and the shitty clickbait headline.

And the same joke was made by 20 people under the original tweet, I just copied the first one.

[Bama Chick 28596]

More on the staffers than quit -

He will be talking about himself — at least if his advisers have their way. His top aides are not just white men. And unlike last time, when he enjoyed playing the insurgent foil to an establishment-backed politician, Senator Bernie Sanders is now eagerly projecting himself as the front-runner.

In 2016, Mr. Sanders had little choice but to run the race of an outsider — disorganized, decentralized and improvisational. But as the Vermont senator formally kicks off his second presidential bid with an appearance in his native Brooklyn on Saturday, this much is apparent: He is at least attempting to mount a different kind of campaign.

Yet even as he builds a more sophisticated and modern organization, Mr. Sanders’s iconoclasm and possessiveness over his brand of democratic socialism has created turmoil in his own ranks. His media consulting team abruptly quit this week after the senator and his wife, Jane, expressed displeasure with the sleek announcement ad the advisers produced, deeming it inauthentic, and instead booked a Vermont studio to record a no-frills, nearly 11-minute video that Mr. Sanders wrote himself, according to multiple Democratic officials familiar with the matter.

The clash was a reminder that Mr. Sanders, dating to his first campaigns for office in Burlington, Vt., has always charted his own political course. But in interviews over the last week, his aides and advisers said the 77-year-old Independent has consented to some strategic changes as he tries to win over a party that in the Trump era is not singularly focused on economic inequality.

His campaign aims to capitalize on the elements that made Mr. Sanders a phenomenon in 2016 — big crowds, a small-dollar fund-raising army — but also to more visibly match an electoral moment defined by inclusion, identity and issues related to both.

A central part of the plan, aides and advisers said, involves persuading Mr. Sanders to reveal more of his personal story, starting with the rally in Brooklyn, near the rent-controlled apartment where he grew up, the son of a Jewish immigrant, and on Sunday in Chicago, where he went to college and joined civil rights protests.

The rallies, those close to Mr. Sanders hope, will allow him to showcase his upbringing — something he has long resisted — in the context of how it has shaped the policy issues voters now know so well, injecting freshness to his by-now familiar message and providing voters a new window into who he is and what he represents.

“That has not been his practice in the past — he is much more focused on the ideas and the policies he advocates,” Jeff Weaver, who was Mr. Sanders’s 2016 campaign manager and is still his closest adviser, said in an interview. “But when you are running for president, you are not just electing a pile of policy papers.”

Mr. Sanders’s strategists are keenly aware that the early stages of his run could offer him the best opportunity to shore up supporters and quickly establish him as the candidate to beat. The new approach could also help him compete with opponents like Senator Kamala Harris and Senator Elizabeth Warren, who have both made their origin stories a key part of their message. And it could satisfy voters who crave a deeper connection to their officials.
Other changes are also underway on the campaign. Following pledges from advisers to ensure a more diverse staff than in 2016, particularly in its upper ranks, Mr. Sanders hired a new campaign manager, Faiz Shakir, the former A.C.L.U. political director and the first Muslim to ever run a presidential campaign, as well as a new political director, Analilia Mejia, a progressive activist. The campaign also said it had brought on a diverse group of new co-chairs, including Nina Turner, the president of the Sanders-aligned group Our Revolution, and Carmen Yulín Cruz, the mayor of San Juan.

“One of the biggest differences,” said Chuck Rocha, a senior adviser to Mr. Sanders, “is we’re being very determinative about making sure that this campaign reflects the face of America and the fabric of our country.”

But just days into Mr. Sanders’s second run, his contempt for mainstream party politics and tactics obscured a rollout that brought him $10 million in the first week of the campaign.


Last Monday, the day before he began his candidacy, Mr. Sanders arrived at a Burlington studio with a script for the announcement he had crafted himself that reflected his longstanding stump speech. “Our campaign is about taking on the powerful special interests that dominate our economic and political life,” he said, speaking in front of a screen with an image of a superimposed bookcase.

Senator Bernie Sanders is embarking on a second run for president. This time the field will be bigger, more diverse and filled with candidates who have adopted his progressive populist mantle.CreditCreditSam Hodgson for The New York Times
Mark Longabaugh, Julian Mulvey and Tad Devine — Mr. Sanders’s media consultants and three of his top advisers from the 2016 race — were informed only at the last minute of the change of plans and they were enraged, according to Democrats directly familiar with the episode. They had produced a much shorter video with higher production value.

But Mr. Sanders and his wife did not like how he appeared in the video and were uneasy with some of the content that did not feel true to his unvarnished message, these Democrats said.

The Sanders’s instincts served them well, at least in terms of how the spot would be received by his supporters: A blast email on the day of his announcement with the text from the do-it-yourself ad drew an enthusiastic response. Even though there was no direct fund-raising request in the ad, it helped Mr. Sanders raise a record $6 million in the first day of his campaign.

But it marked a humiliation for his consultants, who quit after concluding that Mr. Sanders was not willing to empower them.

It is not clear how much Mr. Sanders will ultimately bend to the wishes of his current advisers. But his new team sees enormous opportunity in his twin rallies this weekend — platforms to showcase big, diverse crowds of supporters, which could address questions that have dogged him since 2016 about his appeal to nonwhites.

And though his rally in Brooklyn will be something of a homecoming, it is also a chance for him to make an aggressive play for young, white urbanites at the same time that another one of their favorites, Beto O’Rourke, is expected to enter the race.

Even so much as acknowledging his biography would be a change for a senator who has long rejected sharing anything about his life. But his advisers are betting it could help set him apart from a crowded field of candidates, many of whom support the same policies that had made him unique in 2016.

At his Brooklyn rally, Mr. Sanders is expected to at least nod to the years when he played stickball in the street and arguments between his parents over money were commonplace. In Chicago, his advisers hope he will talk about his civil rights activism there, including how he was arrested during a protest on the South Side.

But above all, the rallies will test just how much Mr. Sanders, whose message has largely remained the same throughout his political career, is willing to evolve, if at all. Those closest to the senator acknowledge that he is unlikely to change, even as he recognizes the importance of sharing his personal story.

“As he sees it, his importance is his policies — what he sees can happen in America that is drastically better and different from what has been,” Larry Sanders, his older brother, said in a phone interview this week. “That’s his central focus.”
The elder Mr. Sanders, who now lives in Oxford, England, recalled pieces of his brother’s life that might resonate with voters. Summers at the Ten Mile River scout camp outside the city. Sunday morning bagels and lox. “I’ve always been convinced,” he said, “that there is a tremendous amount of Brooklyn in Bernard.”

Some who know Mr. Sanders remain unconvinced he will emphasize his biography this weekend, despite the settings. Mr. Sanders’s ties to the borough since leaving it after one year at Brooklyn College are somewhat tenuous. Though his accent betrays his origins, he has spent his entire political career in Vermont, whose winter climate he often recalls on the campaign trail.

Even if Mr. Sanders does talk more about himself, his competition presents a new set of challenges that his own biography may only compound.

“At the end of the day, he is still an old white man,” said Tracy Sefl, a veteran Democratic strategist and formerly a senior adviser to the super PAC Ready for Hillary. “So there are lots of other things that he wants to talk about besides those parts of his identity.”

[bad_teammate 13132]

1 hour ago, Bama Chick said:

Aw, have Berners lost their sense of humor?

No, I like Bernie jokes. I make them myself. I just don't think racist jokes from Russian bots are funny.

But to what you posted after that, I think the move to hire campaign staff is great and to focus on his story is also great. He's got a compelling backstory as a man who has been a consistent and steadfast progressive for his entire life, beginning when he was a 30-year-old mayor who looked like an 80-year-old mayor.

And Jesus Christ that last quote. Hillary people are fucking ghouls and should be thrown into a deep well and fed only Soylent.

[Bama Chick 28596]

Yeah that last dig is garbage.

I wonder why Bernie seems to be reluctant to tout his past?

He has a great story and it’s definitely appealing to people like me who have a grudge/residual bad feelings from 2016.

Yes, the policies and issues are paramount but voters want to hear how the candidate’s personal story ties into how they came to hold those beliefs and turned their life experiences into policy.

Like, Kamala appeals to me more on a gut personal level but I don’t see the throughline on how her life translates into her platform.

Now that I’m learning more about Bernie’s life story, I can see the progression of how his life experience shaped his policy beliefs. It rings genuine and true.

And that can help overcome how I’m put off with his personality.

A gruff, grumpy but genuine believer with good intentions borne from heartfelt beliefs is more likely to gain my support than someone I connect with personally but just seems to be parroting a message that focus grouped well. If that makes sense.

For example, Beto gets tagged with being inexperienced and nothing but a charismatic empty suit. But when you listen to him speak about his childhood in El Paso and his passion for immigrants and the tragedy going on at our southern border, I hear someone speaking from the heart about something important to him based on life experience. He’s sincere and genuine and his policies on that issue are his.

I’m rambling now but I’m curious why Bernie held back on that stuff. Did he feel like he’d be seen as pandering? Didn’t want to be seen as bragging? Afraid it might turn some of those weird Bernie/Trump voters off?

Whatever the reason, I’m glad he’s speaking on it now.


And as for that tweet I posted, I truly thought it was just a funny quip. I went back and looked at the twitter user that posted it and it is a gross MAGA person and they were not joking and were being gross. I should have clicked on their profile prior to posting it. I apologize for that.

One liberal’s ironic joke on the ridiculousness of our current political climate is one Trumpkin’s manifesto of “Down With Everything Brown”.

Mea Culpa.

[Dropout 355]

15 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

Yeah that last dig is garbage.

I wonder why Bernie seems to be reluctant to tout his past?

He has a great story and it’s definitely appealing to people like me who have a grudge/residual bad feelings from 2016.

Yes, the policies and issues are paramount but voters want to hear how the candidate’s personal story ties into how they came to hold those beliefs and turned their life experiences into policy.

Like, Kamala appeals to me more on a gut personal level but I don’t see the throughline on how her life translates into her platform.

Now that I’m learning more about Bernie’s life story, I can see the progression of how his life experience shaped his policy beliefs. It rings genuine and true.

And that can help overcome how I’m put off with his personality.

A gruff, grumpy but genuine believer with good intentions borne from heartfelt beliefs is more likely to gain my support than someone I connect with personally but just seems to be parroting a message that focus grouped well. If that makes sense.

For example, Beto gets tagged with being inexperienced and nothing but a charismatic empty suit. But when you listen to him speak about his childhood in El Paso and his passion for immigrants and the tragedy going on at our southern border, I hear someone speaking from the heart about something important to him based on life experience. He’s sincere and genuine and his policies on that issue are his.

I’m rambling now but I’m curious why Bernie held back on that stuff. Did he feel like he’d be seen as pandering? Didn’t want to be seen as bragging? Afraid it might turn some of those weird Bernie/Trump voters off?

Whatever the reason, I’m glad he’s speaking on it now.


And as for that tweet I posted, I truly thought it was just a funny quip. I went back and looked at the twitter user that posted it and it is a gross MAGA person and they were not joking and were being gross. I should have clicked on their profile prior to posting it. I apologize for that.

One liberal’s ironic joke on the ridiculousness of our current political climate is one Trumpkin’s manifesto of “Down With Everything Brown”.

Mea Culpa.

Bernie is about the issues. He is about his business today. Definitely not yesterday. He sounds like a broken record because nobody has been listening the past 40 years. The issues are the same. Bernie is how you’ve come to describe him. He is genuine. You can’t argue the record. The grumpiness comes from being called crazy while being the only sane one. He has earned the right to wear his displeasure and disgust on his face.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

7 hours ago, Dropout said:

Bernie is about the issues. He is about his business today. Definitely not yesterday. He sounds like a broken record because nobody has been listening the past 40 years. The issues are the same. Bernie is how you’ve come to describe him. He is genuine. You can’t argue the record. The grumpiness comes from being called crazy while being the only sane one. He has earned the right to wear his displeasure and disgust on his face.

Bernie has been doing this shit for 40+ years and AOC has been doing it for 40+ days. 

Yet AOC has been more effective at pitching tangible policy ideas to the American public than Bernie ever was.  

Why is that?  What the fuck was Bernie doing for 40 years that prevented him from taking the bull by the horns and leading the charge like AOC? 

This is one of my concerns with Bernard, he’s not a great leader.