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4 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Every day I’m thinking less and less of someone who drives a Tesla. Yes I understand getting rid of it does nothing to financially hurt Elon. And may financially impact the car owner. However at some point you have to decide what is more important, your morals or a few dollars.

and from a practical standpoint the Tesla market may dry up soon. today could be a good day to sell a Tesla while there are buyers who are paying current market prices. In a year if not months, very few may want it.

 

3 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I told my cousin this over the holidays - I asked him point-blank what Musk was doing that was going to make his Tesla hold its value (as much as a used car can) and make the Tesla brand as a whole worth more than it is now? I told him that if things keep going the way they are, used car lots will be full of Teslas and trade-in values will be really bad.  

It was his first car, so it'll be painful, but his wife mentioned he's been looking at other EVs.

I keep my cars as long as possible (my personal car is a 21 year old 4Runner with 225k miles and only the second car I’ve ever owned) and my wife’s Model 3 is a 2018 model (first year available, before Elon went completely batshit) that is paid off and I plan on keeping at least another 10 years if possible. So yeah, I’m going to keep it. And it’s a great car. But fuck that guy. The richest man in the world doesn’t care about my one car. 

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45 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

 

I keep my cars as long as possible (my personal car is a 21 year old 4Runner with 225k miles and only the second car I’ve ever owned) and my wife’s Model 3 is a 2018 model (first year available, before Elon went completely batshit) that is paid off and I plan on keeping at least another 10 years if possible. So yeah, I’m going to keep it. And it’s a great car. But fuck that guy. The richest man in the world doesn’t care about my one car. 

Sweet swastikar, bro.

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It wouldn’t surprise me if Tesla owners start seeing their cars surprisingly modified, like a broken windshield, when they have it in a parking lot or garage. As the fed govt cuts spending, it ultimately leads to private companies cutting jobs. Guy loses his job, walks out of a bar and sees a shiny model 3 next to his car. Doesn’t take much for the nearby rock to crack a windshield. Or walk by a Tesla, and a house key puts a long scratch down the side.

vandalism is wrong but people will take their anger out on teslas. There’s a reason people in Michigan didn’t buy Japanese cars in the 70s-90s.

6 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

 

I keep my cars as long as possible (my personal car is a 21 year old 4Runner with 225k miles and only the second car I’ve ever owned) and my wife’s Model 3 is a 2018 model (first year available, before Elon went completely batshit) that is paid off and I plan on keeping at least another 10 years if possible. So yeah, I’m going to keep it. And it’s a great car. But fuck that guy. The richest man in the world doesn’t care about my one car. 

no one cares that you like to keep cars forever and that it predates Elon’s public nazism. Your wife is supporting Elon and his actions by driving the model 3. Its that simple.

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To the Tesla owners, I get why you don't necessarily want to rush to sell your cars right this second and it's not some moral failing. But just for your own benefit, I do think y'all should consider how likely he is to get even worse and even more embarrassing, and how likely your position is going to shift from "not yet" to "fuck I gotta sell this tomorrow" within the next like 6 months. There's no way it takes more than 12 months, certainly not 10 fucking years. Much sooner than later every one of you will have changed your minds because it's just that embarrassing. So why not just go ahead and do it now?

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city next to Fort Collins - Friday morning's news. Reportedly they tried to burn down the building with molotov cocktails but they weren't enough.

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30 minutes ago, Chopper said:

city next to Fort Collins - Friday morning's news. Reportedly they tried to burn down the building with molotov cocktails but they weren't enough.

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As acts of vandalism rise with Teslas, the cost of insuring a Tesla will too. Insurance companies will calculate expected increases of replacing windshields or repainting, so even if a owner’s Tesla is ok in the garage, money will be flowing out of their pocket books.

as for Tesla dealerships itself, they will have costs going up with more security and higher insurance costs. Or higher repair overhead if they self insure.

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58 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

To the Tesla owners, I get why you don't necessarily want to rush to sell your cars right this second and it's not some moral failing. But just for your own benefit, I do think y'all should consider how likely he is to get even worse and even more embarrassing, and how likely your position is going to shift from "not yet" to "fuck I gotta sell this tomorrow" within the next like 6 months. There's no way it takes more than 12 months, certainly not 10 fucking years. Much sooner than later every one of you will have changed your minds because it's just that embarrassing. So why not just go ahead and do it now?

Not to mention that as fewer and fewer people buy new teslas, Tesla will have no choice but to either drastically lower manufacturing or slash new vehicle prices. Dropping manufacturing is drastic so lower prices would be the first option. If new cars drop 10%, that will push used vehicles prices even more.

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2 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

As acts of vandalism rise with Teslas, the cost of insuring a Tesla will too. Insurance companies will calculate expected increases of replacing windshields or repainting, so even if a owner’s Tesla is ok in the garage, money will be flowing out of their pocket books.

as for Tesla dealerships itself, they will have costs going up with more security and higher insurance costs. Or higher repair overhead if they self insure.

I used to drive past this location frequently and never observed any inventory on the lot. It was primarily a service center with a couple new models to test drive. Last time past was probably a year ago. Hilarious that they now have enough inventory on the lot to make themselves a target, and they also have little or no security. 

Awkward John Krasinski GIF by Saturday Night Live

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lol

 

The United States is ready to resettle "persecuted South African farmers," a State Department spokesperson said Saturday, after Washington froze aid to the country over a law President Donald Trump alleges allows land to be seized from white farmers.

"Persecuted South African farmers and other innocent victims being targeted solely based on their race who choose to resettle in America will be welcome," State Department spokeswoman Tammy Bruce said on X.

"The United States will also defend the rights and interests of those remaining descendants of settlers threatened with expropriation without compensation and other intolerable abuses," Bruce added.

The statement comes after Trump issued an executive order on Friday to freeze US aid to South Africa.

https://www.barrons.com/news/state-department-says-persecuted-south-african-farmers-welcome-in-us-f0e4727b

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Saturday morning Federal court order

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  https://www.ft.com/content/33fc209e-761a-42b5-99ac-b6ed131452c5

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    A federal judge in New York has temporarily blocked Elon Musk and his team from accessing the US Treasury department’s payments data, warning that it risked leading to the disclosure of sensitive information.

The order issued on Saturday morning is a new legal blow to the technology billionaire and his closest allies’ push to comb through federal payments in a bid to slash US government costs.

The court’s move came in response to a legal challenge from 19 Democratic state attorneys-general, who argued that Musk’s unofficial “Department of Government Efficiency” unit, which was set up by President Donald Trump, should not have access to personal information relating to millions of Americans.

In the court order Judge Paul Engelmayer of the Southern District of New York wrote that the “new policy” presented a risk of “disclosure of sensitive and confidential information” and a “heightened risk that the systems in question will be more vulnerable than before to hacking”.

He ordered that any “political appointees, special government employees, and any government employee” from outside the US Treasury should be restricted from accessing the agency’s data, and should destroy any information they had obtained since Trump’s inauguration last month.

The order is expected to remain in place at least until a court hearing which has been set for February 14.

The judge’s order highlights how the wide-ranging push by Trump and Musk to selectively slash government spending is facing its biggest hurdles in court, as it tests the limits of executive power as well as America’s privacy laws.

Earlier this week, a federal judge in the District of Columbia ruled that outsiders should not be granted access to the Treasury’s payments data, in response to a separate legal challenge brought by representatives of retirees and government employees.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Colonel Sanders said:

I imagine the DOGE application process is : Are you an overt racist?  If no, please explain. 

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You have to wonder. What is this kid so important? Wait, I got it. he is the one who plays games for Musk. So he must be guarded at all costs.

 

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1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Not to mention that as fewer and fewer people buy new teslas, Tesla will have no choice but to either drastically lower manufacturing or slash new vehicle prices. Dropping manufacturing is drastic so lower prices would be the first option. If new cars drop 10%, that will push used vehicles prices even more.

If I owned one I'd be more worried about service and repairs as this crazy bastard runs everything he touches into the ground.

Hardcore.

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32 minutes ago, Colonel Sanders said:

I imagine the DOGE application process is : Are you an overt racist?  If no, please explain. 

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Step two: Imagine firing people simply because their work involves equity and inclusion, but hiring overt racists previously publicly identified for harassment of minorities.

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22 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Why should we believe the judge’s orders will be followed? If Elon and to a lesser extent, Treasury secretary, still want Elon to access the data, they will.

Why should you believe any judge's order will be followed?  

Whether or not they are, civil and/or criminal liability remains a possibility.

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3 hours ago, Chopper said:

Saturday morning Federal court order

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  https://www.ft.com/content/33fc209e-761a-42b5-99ac-b6ed131452c5

 

Credit where it’s due, our Federal Government checks/balances often work good.

It’s also a good callout.  This ordeal has called out some spending that is unwise.  But to meaningfully reform things you gotta work through the framework that’s in place.  
 

This whole thing will end in a few months and no reforms, including the necessary ones, will happen.  Just one big dog whistle.

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4 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

lol

 

The United States is ready to resettle "persecuted South African farmers," a State Department spokesperson said Saturday, after Washington froze aid to the country over a law President Donald Trump alleges allows land to be seized from white farmers.

"Persecuted South African farmers and other innocent victims being targeted solely based on their race who choose to resettle in America will be welcome," State Department spokeswoman Tammy Bruce said on X.

"The United States will also defend the rights and interests of those remaining descendants of settlers threatened with expropriation without compensation and other intolerable abuses," Bruce added.

The statement comes after Trump issued an executive order on Friday to freeze US aid to South Africa.

https://www.barrons.com/news/state-department-says-persecuted-south-african-farmers-welcome-in-us-f0e4727b

This is so fucking embarrassing and gross.

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58 minutes ago, Parliament said:

Credit where it’s due, our Federal Government checks/balances often work good.

It’s also a good callout.  This ordeal has called out some spending that is unwise.  But to meaningfully reform things you gotta work through the framework that’s in place.  
 

This whole thing will end in a few months and no reforms, including the necessary ones, will happen.  Just one big dog whistle.

Paywalled article. How is that actually being enforced? Or did the judge ask nicely?

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3 minutes ago, safe sex said:

This is so fucking embarrassing and gross.

Well, you know they've been telling us forever that all the immigrants are brown, criminal, poor and will vote liberal.

So it's a pretty obvious next step to promote immigration of racist landed gentry.

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7 minutes ago, safe sex said:

This is so fucking embarrassing and gross.

We already gave residency to quite a few. Others went to Australia, Canada and New Zealand.

But, thinking about the justification. "and other innocent victims being targeted solely based on their race who choose to resettle in America will be welcome"

Talk about pandoras box. They cannot say just white south africans. Cool, so Darfuri tribes? They can come. Armenians. Yep. OK, what about Palestinians? I mean, lots on here will tell us they are or are not arabs depending on the message. Well what is it.

 

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7 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

It wouldn’t surprise me if Tesla owners start seeing their cars surprisingly modified, like a broken windshield, when they have it in a parking lot or garage. As the fed govt cuts spending, it ultimately leads to private companies cutting jobs. Guy loses his job, walks out of a bar and sees a shiny model 3 next to his car. Doesn’t take much for the nearby rock to crack a windshield. Or walk by a Tesla, and a house key puts a long scratch down the side.

vandalism is wrong but people will take their anger out on teslas. There’s a reason people in Michigan didn’t buy Japanese cars in the 70s-90s.

no one cares that you like to keep cars forever and that it predates Elon’s public nazism. Your wife is supporting Elon and his actions by driving the model 3. Its that simple.

Do you tell Ford owners the same thing?  Because he was a pretty bad guy too

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2 hours ago, Parliament said:

It’s also a good callout.  This ordeal has called out some spending that is unwise.  But to meaningfully reform things you gotta work through the framework that’s in place.  

Really, which? What could possibly justify the decimation of NOAA, the Nat'l Weather Service, and cancer research, just for starters?

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24 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Do you tell Ford owners the same thing?  Because he was a pretty bad guy too

Is 150 year old Henry Ford the CEO and largest shareholder of Ford Motor Company?

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1 minute ago, Chopper said:

Really, which? What could possibly justify the decimation of NOAA, the Nat'l Weather Service, and cancer research, just for starters?

Profit for Trump cronies?

Posted
59 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Really, which? What could possibly justify the decimation of NOAA, the Nat'l Weather Service, and cancer research, just for starters?

Wokeness

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Truly, the dumbest man in existence, based on how much (little) he and his companies have paid over the last five years.

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8 minutes ago, NoName said:

 

Truly, the dumbest man in existence, based on how much (little) he and his companies have paid over the last five years.

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I would bet that the majority of posters on this thread pay a higher percentage of their income in taxes than Musk does.

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2 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

Do you tell Ford owners the same thing?  Because he was a pretty bad guy too

Good point. If people are giving you shit about your Tesla 80 years after Elon has died, you can tell them they’re being silly. 

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I imagine the DOGE application process is : Are you an overt racist?  If no, please explain. 
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Rehired to what? Whos paying him? Is he a government employee or a contractor. What the actual fuck? Did this dude sign an agreement of some kind?
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1 hour ago, Eskimohorn said:

Rehired to what? Whos paying him? Is he a government employee or a contractor. What the actual fuck? Did this dude sign an agreement of some kind?

It gets better

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/02/teen-on-musks-doge-team-graduated-from-the-com/

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Wired reported this week that a 19-year-old working for Elon Musk‘s so-called Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) was given access to sensitive US government systems even though his past association with cybercrime communities should have precluded him from gaining the necessary security clearances to do so. As today’s story explores, the DOGE teen is a former denizen of ‘The Com,’ an archipelago of Discord and Telegram chat channels that function as a kind of distributed cybercriminal social network for facilitating instant collaboration.

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Since President Trump’s second inauguration, Musk’s DOGE team has gained access to a truly staggering amount of personal and sensitive data on American citizens, moving quickly to seize control over databases at the U.S. Treasury, the Office of Personnel Management, the Department of Education, and the Department of Health and Human Resources, among others.

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Wired first reported on Feb. 2 that one of the technologists on Musk’s crew is a 19-year-old high school graduate named Edward Coristine, who reportedly goes by the nickname “Big Balls” online. One of the companies Coristine founded, Tesla.Sexy LLC, was set up in 2021, when he would have been around 16 years old.

“Tesla.Sexy LLC controls dozens of web domains, including at least two Russian-registered domains,” Wired reported. “One of those domains, which is still active, offers a service called Helfie, which is an AI bot for Discord servers targeting the Russian market. While the operation of a Russian website would not violate US sanctions preventing Americans doing business with Russian companies, it could potentially be a factor in a security clearance review.”

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Mr. Coristine has not responded to requests for comment. In a follow-up story this week, Wiredfound that someone using a Telegram handle tied to Coristine solicited a DDoS-for-hire service in 2022, and that he worked for a short time at a company that specializes in protecting customers from DDoS attacks.

Internet routing records show that Coristine runs an Internet service provider called Packetware(AS400495). Also known as “DiamondCDN,” Packetware currently hosts tesla[.]sexy and diamondcdn[.]com, among other domains.

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DiamondCDN was advertised and claimed by someone who used the nickname “Rivage” on several Com-based Discord channels over the years. A review of chat logs from some of those channels show other members frequently referred to Rivage as “Edward.”

From late 2020 to late 2024, Rivage’s conversations would show up in multiple Com chat servers that are closely monitored by security companies. In November 2022, Rivage could be seen requesting recommendations for a reliable and powerful DDoS-for-hire service.

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Rivage made that request in the cybercrime channel “Dstat,” a core Com hub where users could buy and sell attack services. Dstat’s website dstat[.]cc was seized in 2024 as part of “Operation PowerOFF,” an international law enforcement action against DDoS services.

Coristine’s LinkedIn profile said that in 2022 he worked at an anti-DDoS company called Path Networks, which Wired generously described as a “network monitoring firm known for hiring reformed blackhat hackers.” 

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Wired wrote: “At Path Network, Coristine worked as a systems engineer from April to June of 2022, according to his now-deleted LinkedIn résumé. Path has at times listed as employees Eric Taylor, also known as Cosmo the God, a well-known former cybercriminal and member of the hacker group UGNazis, as well as Matthew Flannery, an Australian convicted hacker whom police allege was a member of the hacker group LulzSec. It’s unclear whether Coristine worked at Path concurrently with those hackers, and WIRED found no evidence that either Coristine or other Path employees engaged in illegal activity while at the company.”

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The founder of Path is a young man named Marshal Webb. I wrote about Webb back in 2016, in a story about a DDoS defense company he co-founded called BackConnect Security LLC. On September 20, 2016, KrebsOnSecurity published data showing that the company had a history of hijacking Internet address space that belonged to others.

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Less than 24 hours after that story ran, KrebsOnSecurity.com was hit with the biggest DDoS attack the Internet had ever seen at the time. That sustained attack kept this site offline for nearly 4 days.

The other founder of BackConnect Security LLC was Tucker Preston, a Georgia man who pleaded guilty in 2020 to paying a DDoS-for-hire service to launch attacks against others.

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The aforementioned Path employee Eric Taylor pleaded guilty in 2017 to charges including an attack on our home in 2013. Taylor was among several men involved in making a false report to my local police department about a supposed hostage situation at our residence in Virginia. In response, a heavily-armed police force surrounded my home and put me in handcuffs at gunpoint before the police realized it was all a dangerous hoax known as “swatting.”

CosmoTheGod rocketed to Internet infamy in 2013 when he and a number of other hackers set up the Web site exposed[dot]su, which “doxed” dozens of public officials and celebrities by publishing the address, Social Security numbers and other personal information on the former First Lady Michelle Obama, the then-director of the FBI and the U.S. attorney general, among others. The group also swatted many of the people they doxed.

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Wired noted that Coristine only worked at Path for a few months in 2022, but the story didn’t mention why his tenure was so short. A screenshot shared on the website pathtruths.com includes a snippet of conversations in June 2022 between Path employees discussing Coristine’s firing.

According to that record, Path founder Marshal Webb dismissed Coristine for leaking internal documents to a competitor. Not long after Coristine’s termination, someone leaked an abundance of internal Path documents and conversations. Among other things, those chats revealed that one of Path’s technicians was a Canadian man named Curtis Gervais who was convicted in 2017 of perpetrating dozens of swatting attacks and fake bomb threats — including at least two attempts against our home in 2014.

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Experts say it is extremely difficult for former members of violent street gangs to gain a security clearance needed to view sensitive or classified information held by the U.S. government. That’s because ex-gang members are highly susceptible to extortion and coercion from current members of the same gang, and that alone presents an unacceptable security risk for intelligence agencies.

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And make no mistake: The Com is the English-language cybercriminal hacking equivalent of a violent street gang. KrebsOnSecurity has published numerous stories detailing how feuds within the community periodically spill over into real-world violence.

When Coristine’s name surfaced in Wired‘s report this week, members of The Com immediately took notice. In the following segment from a February 5, 2025 chat in a Com-affiliated hosting provider, members criticized Rivage’s skills, and discussed harassing his family and notifying authorities about incriminating accusations that may or may not be true.

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Given the speed with which Musk’s DOGE team was allowed access to such critical government databases, it strains credulity that Coristine could have been properly cleared beforehand. After all, he’d recently been dismissed from a job for allegedly leaking internal company information to outsiders.

According to the national security adjudication guidelines (PDF) released by the Director of National Intelligence (DNI), eligibility determinations take into account a person’s stability, trustworthiness, reliability, discretion, character, honesty, judgement, and ability to protect classified information.

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The DNI policy further states that “eligibility for covered individuals shall be granted only when facts and circumstances indicate that eligibility is clearly consistent with the national security interests of the United States, and any doubt shall be resolved in favor of national security.”

 

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https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-official-warns-ny-times-almost-no-one-can-control-elon-musk/
 

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According to a recently published New York Times report, a Trump official is privately sounding the alarm over Elon Musk’s apparent unchecked power under President Donald Trump.

Since the inauguration, Musk has taken an aggressive and arguably unconstitutional approach to dismantling government agencies, halting Congressionally-approved spending to shrink the government. The fact that Musk’s DOGE department was designed as an advisory role but appears to have crept into an operational one without formal security clearances and any reasonable checks and balances has not just raised the nation’s eyebrows but has caused serious concern across the congressional spectrum.

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But under the condition of immunity, someone working within the White House, sourced only as a “Trump official” was willing to share his or her concerns about the role that Musk is playing. The NY Times reports:

The rapid moves by Mr. Musk, who has a multitude of financial interests before the government, have represented an extraordinary flexing of power by a private individual.

The speed and scale have shocked civil servants, who have been frantically exchanging information on encrypted chats, trying to discern what is unfolding.

Senior White House staff members have at times also found themselves in the dark, according to two officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive discussions. One Trump official, who was not authorized to speak publicly, said Mr. Musk was widely seen as operating with a level of autonomy that almost no one can control.

 

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On 2/7/2025 at 8:43 PM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Every day I’m thinking less and less of someone who drives a Tesla. Yes I understand getting rid of it does nothing to financially hurt Elon. And may financially impact the car owner. However at some point you have to decide what is more important, your morals or a few dollars.

and from a practical standpoint the Tesla market may dry up soon. today could be a good day to sell a Tesla while there are buyers who are paying current market prices. In a year if not months, very few may want it.

We were out with my college best buddy and his wife, another very close college friend, last night. They are very liberal and were very early adopters of Tesla. They were one of the very first in Dallas to get the "SUV" where the sides open like wings. Anyway, she was bemoaning that vehicle as we went to dinner in it. She asked her husband if they could just leave a door open so it could get stolen so it would be off their hands. Thought it was funny.

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29 minutes ago, C-Man said:

They were one of the very first in Dallas to get the "SUV" where the sides open like wings. Anyway, she was bemoaning that vehicle as we went to dinner in it. She asked her husband if they could just leave a door open so it could get stolen so it would be off their hands. Thought it was funny.

 

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