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3 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

And once they lose park or monument status, the Antiquities Act can’t bring them back. Null and void in Wyoming, the only state where that is true. Would have to be an act of Congress to bring them back into the system. 
 

For real, this is going to cause some massive protests if it happens. And I’ll be at the forefront. 

And you'll be beaten for your troubles by the new Presidential DOGE Enforcement Troops, operating under the command of DOGE and its Senior Military Officer, Big Balls.

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52 minutes ago, Covri said:

“Elon managed the process and assured me everything would be alright. Our little one's DNA now includes enhancements from other organisms for superior intelligence &
health and we couldn't be happier.”


Elon out there genetically experimenting with these woman that are more than willing to go along with it to get a big payday. It’s honestly weird and disturbing.

She is batshit. Shocker. 

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17 hours ago, Guadaloopy said:

I’m on record many times in this thread disavowing Musk without reservation.   He’s a piece of shit.  So again… fuck off.  
 

So sell your tesla(s) and stop defending them. Otherwise, based on the negs, your actions are much louder than your words. 

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1 minute ago, F250 said:

LOL and despite his success at her falling for his bullshit he didn't even get laid.

King of the Incels.

I’m pretty sure if you are a billionaire, you are a Volcel

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8 minutes ago, F250 said:

LOL and despite his success at her falling for his bullshit he didn't even get laid.

King of the Incels.

Yeah this might be the single most unrelatable thing about this psycho, which says a lot. He’ll give his stalkers kids but he won’t actually fuck them. Are you kidding me 

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3 hours ago, Covri said:

“Elon managed the process and assured me everything would be alright. Our little one's DNA now includes enhancements from other organisms for superior intelligence &
health and we couldn't be happier.”


Elon out there genetically experimenting with these woman that are more than willing to go along with it to get a big payday. It’s honestly weird and disturbing.

I fixed the OP. Didn't know because I don't have a xitter account. 

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19 minutes ago, Chopper said:

I fixed the OP. Didn't know because I don't have a xitter account. 

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I’m usually skeptical and check sources first on anything that sounds remotely fake. This? Seemed so on brand for Elon that I believed it without a second thought. 

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23 hours ago, Captainant said:

The terminations are part of massive effort by President Donald Trump to slash the ranks of the federal workforce, a project he began on his first day in office, less than a month ago.

I laughed at this part.  Dotard has no fucking clue what's going on.

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12 hours ago, aggie08 said:

While it certainly feels like laws and the criminal justice system are hilarious overmatched when it comes to the rich and powerful (and they are), I agree that vigilante "justice" ain't going to make things better.

Peaceful protests don't work.  Boycotts don't work.  Elections don't work.

What the hell else is there?

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14 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

Meanwhile, Surly has probably had its fair share of penis reduction surgeries.

When it keeps getting sucked down the toilet drain when you flush what can you really do?

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Elections work. You just have to win them.

For decades the GOP has gerrymanderd every district they could. Then they made rules to prevent "cetain" people from voting. Then I am supposed to believe they didn't "rig" this election?

Cheaters never quit. My dad still claims a bogey after 3 in the water. It's in thier DNA.

Tldr: elections mean shit...
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1 hour ago, Fastbreak said:


For decades the GOP has gerrymanderd every district they could. Then they made rules to prevent "cetain" people from voting. Then I am supposed to believe they didn't "rig" this election?

Cheaters never quit. My dad still claims a bogey after 3 in the water. It's in thier DNA.

Tldr: elections mean shit...

Voter apathy is exactly what the GOP, Bannon, Trump, and Putin want from their opposition. 

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14 hours ago, Captainant said:

Matt Berger of Space City Weather fame is sounding the alarm on NOAA getting kneecapped

https://www.chron.com/gulf-coast/article/national-weather-service-doge-trust-20167595.php

Despite Lutnick's assurances, a politicized NOAA could be a real problem, Berger told Chron this week.

"Certainly if you wanted to say the planet is no longer warming, one way to do that is just to stop measuring temperatures," he said. "I very much doubt that will happen, but they renamed the Gulf of Mexico, so who knows?"

Project 2025 also calls for the National Weather Service to be privatized, contending commercialization of the agency's proprietary technologies will increase competition. But in reality, Berger said, even weather companies in the private sector—including his—rely on NOAA's data to do their jobs. That includes weather apps on the typical smartphone and the dozen or so AI models in various stages of development.

"All of them require a coherent set of initial conditions, which is primarily government-collected data," Berger said. "If you take that away, those models are no good—garbage in, garbage out. You've gotta have a good set of initial conditions."

Privatize the hurricane center or NOAA, then fast-forward to a world where the private companies who collect expensive data will license it to sites like Space City Weather. Space City wouldn't even be able to discuss a hurricane's location or expected path without paying ElonWeather.com.

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2 hours ago, Fastbreak said:


For decades the GOP has gerrymanderd every district they could. Then they made rules to prevent "cetain" people from voting. Then I am supposed to believe they didn't "rig" this election?
 

Just to be clear. Everyone gerrymanders. It's a blight on our country.

https://www.vox.com/22961590/redistricting-gerrymandering-house-2022-midterms

>Democrats saved themselves by resorting to a tactic they’ve previously denounced as not only unfair but downright unethical — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi calledgerrymandering “unjust and deeply dangerous” in 2019. But in the absence of national reforms banning the practice, refusing to gerrymander would have meant effective unilateral disarmament, ceding the GOP a significant advantage in the battle for control over the House.

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Also keep this in mind every time you see one of the "but it wasn't supposed to hurt the people that voted for him" things posted on FB or Twitter or letters to the editor 

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I really don't know if it's worse for him to just not understand and speak authoritatively on the topic or lie about it.

Both are incredibly embarrassing considering how often he's straight up wrong.

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Even if Trump and Elon cannot fire every federal employee or kill an agency, they fairly easily can start to kill programs within those agencies. Trump would prefer to also get rid of the employees supporting those programs, but he would accept a win of having those employees do absolutely nothing while receiving a paycheck.

And if Congress authorized and funded a program, Elon and the cabinet secretaries can create chaos by closing the programs and daring the courts to attempt to restart them. And that's only if Trump agrees to enforce a court's ruling.

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re: Elon's team not understanding business data.

In any other administration, someone embarrassing the President by making these ridiculous claims would be pushed aside tomorrow. Instead the Trump admin, especially that horrid press secretary, will repeat the lie as evidence.

I imagine that we do have fraud where a SS benefits recipient dies but either intentionally or unintentionally the info doesn't make it to the govt. In my only experience with someone dying, I believe SS was automatically notified by the funeral home of the death. I'm unaware of the actual process. I would have to guess that SS does eventually work to prosecute someone if fraud is involved.

My sister would have collected our parents' SS indefinitely if she could have. She would have feigned ignorance that she thought it was survivor benefits.

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15 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Peaceful protests don't work.  Boycotts don't work.  Elections don't work.

What the hell else is there?

you know. We all know. But enough people still have jobs and warm homes and aren't ready to go there yet. 

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2 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

you know. We all know. But enough people still have jobs and warm homes and aren't ready to go there yet. 

I think the pain starts this summer. Summer trips cancelled due to higher prices. Savings start to dry up and rents get missed. The trickle up begins.

Northern Virginia will be interesting to watch. Direct or indirect, the economy is tied to the Federal Government.

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35 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

re: Elon's team not understanding business data.

It's not just that they don't understand business data.

It's the complete and utter misunderstanding of data in general. Anyone whose worked with DOB data before can tell you the issues with it, he proves that he or his people are ill informed at best or telling lies at worst 

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23 minutes ago, NoName said:

It's not just that they don't understand business data.

It's the complete and utter misunderstanding of data in general. Anyone whose worked with DOB data before can tell you the issues with it, he proves that he or his people are ill informed at best or telling lies at worst 

In fairness, they didn't get COBOL in their java course work 

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5 hours ago, Fastbreak said:


For decades the GOP has gerrymanderd every district they could. Then they made rules to prevent "cetain" people from voting. Then I am supposed to believe they didn't "rig" this election?

Cheaters never quit. My dad still claims a bogey after 3 in the water. It's in thier DNA.

Tldr: elections mean shit...

There are enough people eligible to vote in Harris county to turn every statewide election blue. They choose not to vote. You ever wonder why?

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1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

I think the pain starts this summer. Summer trips cancelled due to higher prices. Savings start to dry up and rents get missed. The trickle up begins.

Northern Virginia will be interesting to watch. Direct or indirect, the economy is tied to the Federal Government.

The farmers.  I have relatives who farm in Oklahoma and Arkansas who thought Musk was on their side last year, and you can tell that it’s finally sinking in that they could be fucked by what Leon is trying to do, and with the tariffs that will probably happen.  Friends who farm in Texas, who were opposed to Musk getting anywhere near D.C. have been preparing since it was clear that tariffs would happen, and the USAID fuckery kicked their plans into high gear.

We tend to picture farmers as being insular good ole boys, but they use the internet, follow various sites, are emailing each other on mailing lists, are talking to their Congressional reps (and apparently being ignored, at least in Oklahoma) and more importantly, they are talking to the co-ops and companies who are buying from them, and talking to the companies they buy from (fertilizer, equipment, etc.) as well as their banks and everything else farmers deal with.

My friends in Texas didn’t vote for Musk and are assuming the worst and trying to line up deals and purchases much earlier than they normally would. Some of them sell within the state (thanks HEB!) or are lining up buyers that may not be as good, but don’t cross the Mexican border. My family in Oklahoma and Arkansas did vote for Musk and they believe they have a slight chance at getting exemptions with the tariffs and USAID (they don’t) but you can tell they are concerned.

What my relatives don’t understand is that Musk does not see USAID as a decent org that helps take agricultural surplus off the market and keep a lot of farms afloat (which is actually a matter of national security).  He simply sees it as an org that is investigating one of his companies and he wants it destroyed. He has never farmed and doesn’t understand how many farms could go under.

Musk not only doesn’t understand it’s a localized natural security issue (keeping American farms going and growing) but he doesn’t see how many countries are helped out by us sending food overseas as well as what would happen if the tariffs kick in. If we limit cheap American food going elsewhere, besides hurting American farmers, other countries might step in to cover the more profitable areas. We also increase the chances of refugees from those countries heading north. And keeping those countries nominally stable keeps them open for American investments and influence  (versus Russian or Chinese or Indian investments).

TLDR: Musk will happily drive a lot of American farms under if he can help out his companies.

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3 hours ago, NoName said:

Just to be clear. Everyone gerrymanders. It's a blight on our country.

 

"everyone gerrymanders" is misleading when you consider what's happened to Congress and many state legislatures since about 2010 when Republicans began doing EXTREME gerrymanders in swing states, and which has allowed them to stay in control or at worst competitive in the House and in swing state Legislatures. The Supreme Court, which they control, has allowed extreme gerrymandering. 

For example the split in congressional delegation in CA is 43 to 9 because CA passed law requiring fair congressional districts by a non-partisan board. If CA Democrats were able to legally gerrymander they could leave R's with just 1 or 2 seats, at most, in the entire state - if they drew lines as fucking crazy and politically extreme as Texas R's. 

 

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