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5 hours ago, Chopper said:

I will be ridiculed and called a lil bitch by the manly men for posting this but I enjoyed the article

 

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After watching clips of JD Vance skiing over the weekend and looking like a 90 year old grandmother, he's going to be even more of asshole than he was on Friday.

 

So they’re self loathing, closet homos. (Nttawwt) Sounds right.

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2 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

Posted this on the CR Doge thread.

Rolling Stone magazine reporting that the FAA is gifting Star Link tens of millions. Verbal directives. No paper trail. Unclear if the Verizon contract is still being honored.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/elon-musk-starlink-faa-officials-find-funding-1235285246/

im sure everybody on this board thinks this is just fine [*amygdala fights furiously with self*]

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Yep. The short version of the piece about alpha males and such is: the harder you try to be a performative “man,” the less of a man you actually are.

It’s the parallel of being cool: the only way to be truly cool is to not GAF what people think. If you keep trying to impress people so they’ll think you’re cool….you’re the opposite of cool.

Yet culturally, we have elevated as “alpha males” literally the least alpha men I’ve ever seen in my life. Bullies are not men, they are pathetic, weak fucking losers who only punch when they can punch down.

I took "History of Being Cool" to fulfill an elective via American Studies.  It was a fun class if a little goofy and filled with quite a few unserious people looking for an easy class.

But that's exactly it. Cool is basically having a solid self esteem and personal ethos. You are unbothered by rejection and resilient in the face of insult. Unreactive, "Zen", introspective, unflappable in the face of chaos.  

Musk is hyper reactive, manic, unsure of what is going to happen to him next. He's moody, hyper reactive, and unable to have any introspection and thus course correct.  He can pay for a bunch of surgeries to look less dorky but then he skips the gym, dresses like a fool and gets made fun of.  Which hurts his feelings; which makes him further escalate his behavior to further prove his worth in more pathetic ways.  Vicious cycle and less cool with every iteration.  Also less masculine so he will need to artificially impregnate yet another woman to feel cool and manly.

 

This man is going to go through things.

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15 minutes ago, Parliament said:

So they’re self loathing, closet homos. (Nttawwt) Sounds right.

I thought that was an important piece, pretty accurate and worth a more intelligent discussion.

But i was at the game in Columbus, so your post tracks.  

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28 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

I took "History of Being Cool" to fulfill an elective via American Studies.  It was a fun class if a little goofy and filled with quite a few unserious people looking for an easy class.

But that's exactly it. Cool is basically having a solid self esteem and personal ethos. You are unbothered by rejection and resilient in the face of insult. Unreactive, "Zen", introspective, unflappable in the face of chaos.  

Musk is hyper reactive, manic, unsure of what is going to happen to him next. He's moody, hyper reactive, and unable to have any introspection and thus course correct.  He can pay for a bunch of surgeries to look less dorky but then he skips the gym, dresses like a fool and gets made fun of.  Which hurts his feelings; which makes him further escalate his behavior to further prove his worth in more pathetic ways.  Vicious cycle and less cool with every iteration.  Also less masculine so he will need to artificially impregnate yet another woman to feel cool and manly.

 

This man is going to go through things.

He knows it too. There's a reason he makes that "my headstone will say 'never went to therapy'" joke every three months. It's fucking pathetic. 

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20 minutes ago, boilerhorn said:

NSIAP:

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I don't know, man, it's really hard for me to laugh at the "Elon is a fucking moron" sentiment when he now controls the information sphere and the Presidency for $44B + $100M. Money well spent.

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7 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

I don't know, man, it's really hard for me to laugh at the "Elon is a fucking moron" sentiment when he now controls the information sphere and the Presidency for $44B + $100M. Money well spent.

I do not claim he is a moron.  I decry the notion that he’s a genius.  He’s a grifter with above-average intelligence and risk tolerance.  

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He's not unlike a twelve year old boy except most of them are more aware and compassionate and that's saying something, considering the immaturity of that age. Boys in early adolescence are seeking their place in the world and since most of the world follows patriarchal models, it takes some time to figure out which path to follow. Having money (i.e. coming from 'money') usually means that you're going to have a certain set of allowances that society 'grants' to you based on that as well as a certain set of expectations. Elon is going to forever chase the image he has of himself: as a historical figure, a man of brilliancy, the world's richest man, a father sperm donor to many children, an emperor, but he will never achieve satisfaction because there is no substance to that which he seeks. These are all characteristics that are ephemeral--someone will eventually surpass the qualities of richest or most children or brilliancy and even historical figures who are infamous are, in hindsight, reviled and derided as fools or evil.

Andrew Carnegie was able to blink away some rather shrewd manipulative business dealings by giving away much of his fortune with philanthropy. Somehow I don't see Elon doing that. he is a rather hollow brittle personality, one that shatters when touched.

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1 hour ago, boilerhorn said:

I do not claim he is a moron.  I decry the notion that he’s a genius.  He’s a grifter with above-average intelligence and risk tolerance.  

Yeah, pretty much. He's not a moron at all but he's not the Tony Stark his sycophants think he is, far from it. Just the way he talks about certain things in the tech industry make it extremely clear he has very little knowledge in a lot of these areas but Americans are hard-wired to believe money makes you smart.

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On 2/26/2025 at 5:07 PM, F250 said:

Trump looks like he is ranting on the internet. RFK Jr looks like he is thinking about fucking a water buffalo and Rubio might be having a moment of selth loathing.

RFK is what 55 years of hard daily drinking looks like, right? 

This checks out

 

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I can guarantee you that none of these fuckers, Zuckerberg, Musk, Trump, etc. have ever let their daughters paint their fingernails and then went out in public with them or had a tea party with them and patiently listened to their stuffed animals have a conversation..

Bingo. Seriously. This is a perfect way to capture the dichotomy. That’s a man. Does what’s right, doesn’t give a shit what you think. Not the roided up dude in his Black Rifle Coffee shirt who “doesn’t do any of that fairy shit.”
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39 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I can guarantee you that none of these fuckers, Zuckerberg, Musk, Trump, etc. have ever let their daughters paint their fingernails and then went out in public with them or had a tea party with them and patiently listened to their stuffed animals have a conversation..

They haven’t even had a conversation with their kids. 

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:


Bingo. Seriously. This is a perfect way to capture the dichotomy. That’s a man. Does what’s right, doesn’t give a shit what you think. Not the roided up dude in his Black Rifle Coffee shirt who “doesn’t do any of that fairy shit.”

The current most powerful men in the world are extremely broken men tied by a common thread of shitty fathers 

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7 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I can guarantee you that none of these fuckers, Zuckerberg, Musk, Trump, etc. have ever let their daughters paint their fingernails and then went out in public with them or had a tea party with them and patiently listened to their stuffed animals have a conversation..

Freedom means constantly adjusting your behavior so you don't lose your man card.

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8 hours ago, B00M said:

RFK is what 55 years of hard daily drinking looks like, right? 

This checks out

 

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I believe that particular parasite  is called a dung beetle.

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1 hour ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Freedom means constantly adjusting your behavior so you don't lose your man card.

Not directed at you, but I find that references to a "man card" is usually indicative of an insecure, overcompensating dipshit.

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22 minutes ago, NoName said:

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Don’t worry! Their future is actually measured by potential to sell personal service robots and will have nothing to do with cars so that surely will explain why the stock doesn’t crater

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8 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

I am going to explain Elmo’s behavior a little bit. Since this idiot shares a spectrum with me  there are certain behaviors I notice that are common. Note, however, that his narcissism takes what a want to explain to an 11. 
 

There is a behavior called masking. It’s fairly common among people on the spectrum. I will explain myself first and my experiences. I have found that looking back on my life that I always attempted to just fit into a group and mask the behaviors I had that were different. In my life I have hung out with people and in places that others would not go to for whatever reason. I can fit into just about any group of people. In another life I might’ve enjoyed working for the government because of this. Natural skills with people do not come easily to me, BUT what I can do is figure out how to mimic the way a group acts and it allows me to be part of said group. It’s mentally exhausting, but I have the routine of how to fit in down. It’s easier than trying to explain to everyone the differences I have and I am mostly okay with that.
 

Elmo masks himself as well, BUT, and this is a big detour from normal autistic behavior, he will fit into a group and pour his focus into it and want to then be the focus of the group. This is where the narcissism comes in. Is there childhood trauma with his dad? Yes. Is there childhood trauma from being made fun of? Yes. Did he take these slights, put them in his back pocket and remember them so he could one day get back at all his imagined enemies? Yes. He’s doing that now while getting the adulation of millions of people here in the US and now in other countries. The narcissism puts all of his impulsive and selfish behavior way over the top.

Autism can manifest itself in giving you a really narrow focus. My narrow focus used to lead me into making some real bad decisions. It took learning who I was and understanding that being different is okay. That was not an easy road, but the journey has been rewarding. Elmo skipped that day of school and really never has gotten in touch with who he is so we get this monster. He takes being different as a slight and he is still stuck in his mental development in his teenage years. He could be using his influence to narrowly focus on bettering mankind. Instead he chose money, attention and hate instead. For me I can see and understand his behaviors clear as day. I have no empathy for him because he chose to follow the hate. He’ll never find any real happiness. His internal emotional state is a never-ending void. That is a dark place to be at and it’s not good for the rest of us.

This is a great post, and I appreciate your insight. 

As an empath, detecting masking is almost cartoonishly easy, and for 99% of people, it's neither here or there, it's just another personality habit to consider and account for.  Like ADHD (which I am) or introversion. 

1% are sociopaths, and by the time we pick up on it, it's usually terrifyingly too late. 

 

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41 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Don’t worry! Their future is actually measured by potential to sell personal service robots and will have nothing to do with cars so that surely will explain why the stock doesn’t crater

Umm, so, uhh, tell me more about these robots that will service you.

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I can't speak to Mussk's innate intelligence. I can say he's mentally unstable and dysfunctional. He's incapable of performing basic tasks. He is completely unaware of his own limitations. He's a conman playing the same routine over and over again. He's doing to the US what he did to twitter, and he's highly irrational and uneducated about what he's doing.

Here he is in 1998. Back then he was at least able to sound normal and speak coherently.

 

here he is last week, unable to form a sentence

Perhaps he once was smart but he's no more intelligent than the average person. However he was fortunate enough to find an equally narcissistic person, one who similarly lacked a moral compass, and who happened to be running for president and who craved Mussk's money. End of. His money provides him an illusion and a way to maneuver with simply using it as brute force that others cannot and/or wouldn't do.

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4 minutes ago, Chopper said:

I can't speak to Mussk's innate intelligence. I can say he's mentally unstable and dysfunctional. He's incapable of performing basic tasks. He is completely unaware of his own limitations. He's a conman playing the same routine over and over again. He's doing to the US what he did to twitter, and he's highly irrational and uneducated about what he's doing.

Here he is in 1998. Back then he was at least able to sound normal and speak coherently.

 

here he is last week, unable to form a sentence

Perhaps he once was smart but he's no more intelligent than the average person. However he was fortunate enough to find an equally narcissistic person, one who similarly lacked a moral compass, and who happened to be running for president and who craved Mussk's money. End of. His money provides him an illusion and a way to maneuver with simply using it as brute force that others cannot and/or wouldn't do.

Genuinely, I think much of his insane, erratic, and uncoordinated behavior is an artifact of his ketamine abuse

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2 minutes ago, Chopper said:

I can't speak to Mussk's innate intelligence. I can say he's mentally unstable and dysfunctional. He's incapable of performing basic tasks. He is completely unaware of his own limitations. He's a conman playing the same routine over and over again. He's doing to the US what he did to twitter, and he's highly irrational and uneducated about what he's doing.

Here he is in 2012. Back then he was at least able to sound normal and speak coherently.

 

here he is last week, unable to form a sentence

Perhaps he once was smart but he's no more intelligent than the average person. However he was fortunate enough to find an equally narcissistic person, one who similarly lacked a moral compass, and who happened to be running for president and who craved Mussk's money. End of. His money provides him an illusion and a way to maneuver with simply using it as brute force that others cannot and/or wouldn't do.

Its either Warren Buffett or Charlie Munger who said he'd rather have somebody with a 130 IQ who thinks their IQ is 120, rather than someone with a 150 IQ who thinks it's 170.  

Beyond the fact that Musk has no idea what he's doing, I think the years of Ketamin and other psychoactive drug use has done some real damage. 

1 minute ago, Captainant said:

Genuinely, I think much of his insane, errative, and uncoordinated behavior is an artifact of his ketamine abuse

 

Just now, Bateshorn said:

Its either Warren Buffett or Charlie Munger who said he'd rather have somebody with a 130 IQ who thinks their IQ is 120, rather than someone with a 150 IQ who thinks it's 170.  

Beyond the fact that Musk has no idea what he's doing, I think the years of Ketamin and other psychoactive drug use has done some real damage. 

Ships in the night....

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24 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Genuinely, I think much of his insane, erratic, and uncoordinated behavior is an artifact of his ketamine abuse

Oh yes for sure. But many of the side effects don't go away when he's not on his drug, or drugs, of choice.

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Oh yes for sure. But many of the side effects don't go away when he's not on his drug, or drugs, of choice.

When do we get the side effect of fatal cardiac arrest? That’s the best one.
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10 minutes ago, Chopper said:

English version:

Dozen Teslas torched outside French dealership: authorities
Toulouse (France) (AFP) – A dozen Teslas were torched in France in what authorities are treating as an arson attack, the prosecutor's office said Monday.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250303-dozen-teslas-torched-outside-french-dealership-authorities

 

Huh.  They mistyped "People strike back against source of funding for one of the world's most dangerous terrorists."  Seems they need a better editor.

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39 minutes ago, Chopper said:

English version:

Dozen Teslas torched outside French dealership: authorities
Toulouse (France) (AFP) – A dozen Teslas were torched in France in what authorities are treating as an arson attack, the prosecutor's office said Monday.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250303-dozen-teslas-torched-outside-french-dealership-authorities

 

All that does is help Elon. He now gets to collect insurance money on inventory that was going to be sitting around not getting sold.

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Posted
10 minutes ago, royiv said:

All that does is help Elon. He now gets to collect insurance money on inventory that was going to be sitting around not getting sold.

Not sure having your inventory torched is all that helpful.

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20 minutes ago, royiv said:

All that does is help Elon. He now gets to collect insurance money on inventory that was going to be sitting around not getting sold.

 

15 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Dealer torched them for the insurance. Knows they won’t sell

 

9 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Not sure having your inventory torched is all that helpful.

If it happens enough, Leon's Tesla dealerships are no longer insurable. Just sayin'.

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Posted

DOGE Claims Credit for Killing Contracts That Were Already Dead

Spoiler

Elon Musk’s group claimed credit for canceling procurement agreements that had been completed years earlier, the latest in a string of public errors on its site.

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By David A. FahrentholdMargot Sanger-Katz and Jeremy Singer-Vine

The reporters examined hundreds of contracts on DOGE’s “Wall of Receipts” and spoke to vendors and agencies connected to the contracts on the list.

March 2, 2025

While George W. Bush was president, the U.S. Coast Guard signed a contract to get administrative help from a company in Northern Virginia. It paid $144,000, and the contract was completed by June 30, 2005.

Twenty years passed. Presidents came and went.

Last week, Elon Musk’s restructuring team, called the Department of Government Efficiency or DOGE, said it had just canceled the long-dead Coast Guard contract — and in doing so, saved U.S. taxpayers $53.7 million.

That claim, posted on the group’s “wall of receipts,” bewildered experts on federal contracting. And there were others like it. Even after Mr. Musk’s group deleted several large erroneous claims from its website last week, The New York Times found that it had added new mistakes — claiming credit for “canceling” contracts that had actually ended under previous presidents.

“These are not savings,” said Lisa Shea Mundt, whose firm, The Pulse of GovCon, tracks federal spending. “The money’s been spent. Period. Point blank.”

These mistakes do not mean DOGE has not made cuts to the federal government. It has, deeply, by pushing widespread layoffs of employees and cancellations of active contracts, and by helping instigate the demise of the U.S. Agency for International Development.

But the repeated errors have raised questions about the quality and veracity of the information that the Musk team is putting out, including whether it is being misled by other departments. The mistakes also seem to call into question the team members’ competence — whether they understand the government well enough to cut it while avoiding catastrophe.

“It’s obvious that they don’t understand,” said Eric Franklin, the chief executive of the firm Erimax, who advises the government on contracting procedures. His own firm was the subject of one of the errors on DOGE’s “wall of receipts.” Mr. Musk’s group claimed it had saved $14 million by canceling one of its contracts — which had ended in 2021.

“It’s really akin to a bull in a china shop,” Mr. Franklin said. “And what do you end up with? It’s just a big mess.”

At the White House, a senior administration official offered a partial explanation, saying the information on the wall of receipts had been provided by individual federal agencies — many of which have embedded staff members from Mr. Musk’s group. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to describe DOGE’s methods, said Mr. Musk’s group then checked the accuracy of the agency’s claims.

Why were there still so many errors? The official said individual agencies should answer that question. On its website, DOGE says it is trying to improve its data, and asks readers to notify it of potential errors.

Missing Identifiers

Agencies are under tremendous pressure to find budget cuts for Mr. Musk’s group to promote. The group has even created a “leaderboard” to measure which ones have eliminated the most.

But in databases of federal contracts, there are clues that this rush is not being well managed or adequately tracked.

In the past, the government has designated specific codes to track large batches of contracts across different agencies that relate to a common initiative, like the federal response to the Covid-19 pandemic. That makes it easier to find all the contracts involved.

But the contracts in the “wall of receipts” have no such signature. That omission may mean there are errors in both directions — not only with expired contracts that don’t actually save money, but also potentially with contracts that were canceled by the group’s effort but are not being counted.

Mr. Musk’s group has said that it has saved taxpayers $65 billion, by cutting contracts, leases, federal employees and other items in the federal budget. But it has itemized only two of those categories: cancellations of contracts and leases. When adding up DOGE’s claimed savings for each item, those categories collectively account for about $10 billion, less than one-sixth of the total.

When DOGE first published its list of canceled contracts, there were about 1,100 examples.

The five largest were wrong.

In one case, DOGE listed a contract worth $8 million as actually being worth $8 billion. In another, it mistakenly counted the same $655 million contract three times. In yet another, it erroneously said that a huge contract at the Social Security Administration had been fully canceled, saving $232 million. In reality, only a small project within that contract had been canceled. Actual savings: $560,000.

By last week, all of those claims were gone. DOGE revised the total savings from these five cuts from $10 billion down to about $19 million.

At the same time, Mr. Musk’s group also added about 1,100 new canceled contracts to the list.

Errant Links

Among the new entries were several that had ended before President Trump took office.

Mr. Musk’s group took credit for the cancellation of a $1.9 billion Treasury Department contract, for work on information technology at the Internal Revenue Service. But it had actually been canceled in November, when President Biden was in office.

The Treasury Department suggested this cut to DOGE in a post on X on Feb. 19. Two days later, The Times reported that it had been canceled before Mr. Trump took office.

Three days after that, DOGE went ahead and posted the Biden-era cancellation on its wall. The Treasury Department did not respond to questions about the contract.

DOGE also claimed credit for canceling two different Coast Guard contracts that had ended during the George W. Bush administration. In addition to the $53 million contract that ended in 2005, Mr. Musk’s group said it had saved $53 million more by canceling another contract with the same vendor. Public contracting data shows that one ended in 2006.

Deniece Peterson, a senior director of federal market analysis at the firm Deltek, said that both contracts were part of a larger spending agreement with a $53 million spending limit. In all, she said, the Coast Guard paid the vendor about $35 million over several years. All of its work under that agreement was completed by 2011, and federal contracting data shows that no bills remain outstanding and no more money was expected to be spent.

Tricia McLaughlin, a spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security, did not offer an explanation for why the department had claimed $106 million in savings from ending these two long-dead contracts. Instead, she responded to questions from The Times with an email saying: “We’re certainly excited about $100 million + in taxpayer savings.”

And then there were the links on the DOGE website that led to different contracts than those touted.

DOGE claimed it had saved $149 million by canceling a contract for three administrative assistants at the National Institutes of Health worth about $1.4 million.

The link, however, led to the page of an unrelated contract with a different company that supplies refrigerated gases used in laboratories. That contract, which does not appear to be canceled, was worth only $118,000.

After being asked about the errors, an official with the Department of Health and Human Services said DOGE was working to correct the website.

 

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