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1 hour ago, Guadaloopy said:

Or this BMW, Benz, VW, Audi, Toyota , Mazda, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Datsun/Nissan, Maserati, Fiat, etc.  Volvo and Sweden were neutral in WW2 and not actively anti-Nazi.  Ford supplied Nazi Germany leading up to the war and used French PoWs in their German plants in 1940.  GM owned 80% of Opel up through 1940 and contributed to Nazi military buildup.  Stellantis is silly with former Axis support, so Chrysler, Dodge, etc are out.

Guess we should all shift to Hyundais and Kias?

Before I bought my first/only Japanese car, I asked my Dad, a veteran of the PTO, whether that bothered him or not.  I knew the answer would be "no," because he worked with people at Sony and developed the highest respect for Japanese.  And he wasn't the type to personalize that sort of thing in the first place.

Nevertheless, it was a Honda/Acura, and I checked to make sure they had no connection to wartime Japanese zaibatsu.  Mitsubishi is obvious.  Subaru was Nakajima.  Nissan was extant during the war, but was not heavily involved in arms manufacturing.  Toyota manufactured trucks during the war, but not much else.  Mazda's predecessors built rifles.

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3 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Nevertheless, it was a Honda/Acura, and I checked to make sure they had no connection to wartime Japanese zaibatsu.  Mitsubishi is obvious.  Subaru was Nakajima.  Nissan was extant during the war, but was not heavily involved in arms manufacturing.  Toyota manufactured trucks during the war, but not much else.  Mazda's predecessors built rifles.

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27 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Man.  And just like that, aggie08 opens up about his micropenis.

I kid, I kid.

Not really.

Ram drivers have little dicks.  It's a scientifically proven fact.

In my defense, it's a non-lifted 1500 Ecodiesel, and it doesn't even have any truck nutz.

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21 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Before I bought my first/only Japanese car, I asked my Dad, a veteran of the PTO, whether that bothered him or not.  I knew the answer would be "no," because he worked with people at Sony and developed the highest respect for Japanese.  And he wasn't the type to personalize that sort of thing in the first place.

Nevertheless, it was a Honda/Acura, and I checked to make sure they had no connection to wartime Japanese zaibatsu.  Mitsubishi is obvious.  Subaru was Nakajima.  Nissan was extant during the war, but was not heavily involved in arms manufacturing.  Toyota manufactured trucks during the war, but not much else.  Mazda's predecessors built rifles.

I had a Sunday school teacher who was a POW of the Japanese after his B-24 went down early in the war.  He had many, many tales to tale.  If anyone could have righteously held a grudge against the Japanese, it was him.  When I asked him how he felt about Japanese cars (this was the 80s when they were seemingly taking over), he said, "I really doubt anyone who beat me built those cars.  And even if they did, so what?  I'm not wasting any more of my time on hate."

The point being, I sleep easy with a Subaru.  Or a Honda, or VW, or whatever the fuck.  It's just metal. 

But he only said that AFTER he had helped eradicate the fascists.  

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1 hour ago, aggie08 said:

I want to laugh, but, as the owner of a 2016 Ram and a Kia Telluride, I'm on pretty icy ground.

My Genesis just got out of the shop after 4 months.

e: To be fair most of that was for a minor bumper/AC condenser repair caused by hitting a jackrabbit. But there was also a recall sprinkled in there.

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Man.  And just like that, aggie08 opens up about his micropenis.

I kid, I kid.

Not really.

Ram drivers have little dicks.  It's a scientifically proven fact.

Anyone who drives a pickup manufactured after 1990 needs to hand over their man card. If it doesn't have three on the tree you're doing it wrong. 

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2 hours ago, Guadaloopy said:

Or this BMW, Benz, VW, Audi, Toyota , Mazda, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Datsun/Nissan, Maserati, Fiat, etc.  Volvo and Sweden were neutral in WW2 and not actively anti-Nazi.  Ford supplied Nazi Germany leading up to the war and used French PoWs in their German plants in 1940.  GM owned 80% of Opel up through 1940 and contributed to Nazi military buildup.  Stellantis is silly with former Axis support, so Chrysler, Dodge, etc are out.

Guess we should all shift to Hyundais and Kias?

Damn, all their CEOs gave nazi salutes within the past few days?

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Nevertheless, it was a Honda/Acura, and I checked to make sure they had no connection to wartime Japanese zaibatsu.  Mitsubishi is obvious.  Subaru was Nakajima.  Nissan was extant during the war, but was not heavily involved in arms manufacturing.  Toyota manufactured trucks during the war, but not much else.  Mazda's predecessors built rifles.

When I bought my first Subaru Chrysler was making K cars (or rather, inflicting K cars) for the American public.   Buying American in 1980 instead of Japanese was more of an intelligence test than a patriotism test.

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1 minute ago, Chopper said:

but but a "new" Y model is about to drop

 

But...and here me out....all the Tesla models together spell S-3-X-Y.  See??? It spells "SEXY!"  Isn't that cool and funny?

What?  You don't think so?  Well, fuck off.  All the 11 year olds and incels on Twitter tell me I'm cool and funny!

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The site with the Y model review has an article about a hilarious design flaw in the current Model Y. Using the emergency door release without rolling down the window a crack first, even when you can't roll it down because it's a, ya know, emergency (and maybe you don't have power), causes the window to shatter because 

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for a Tesla Model Y’s doors to safely open, the window must drop down about an inch to clear the weatherstripping and molding on the body. If it doesn’t, the window gets caught, gets torqued, and shatters, just like what happened to my neighbor.

 

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https://www.theautopian.com/my-neighbors-tesla-model-y-shattered-its-window-because-of-a-bafflingly-bad-design/

 

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25 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Anyone who drives a pickup manufactured after 1990 needs to hand over their man card. If it doesn't have three on the tree you're doing it wrong. 

I learned to drive in an F150 with a column shifter which made things a little confusing at first when I got my first truck with a floor shifter.

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2 minutes ago, F250 said:

I learned to drive in an F150 with a column shifter which made things a little confusing at first when I got my first truck with a floor shifter.

I learned to drive on a 1979 Chevy Luv - floor shifter, but the gas tank had rusted out so my grandfather just ran some tubing into a 5 gallon metal bucket we bungeed into the bed.  You had to prime the pump with the gas pedal till the fasten seatbelt light went off, and than she ran like a dream.

My beat up POS 1999 F-150 is a freaking Cadillac in comparison.

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16 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

The only thing I can say about my 1965 Ford Falcon (manual choke, floor button you stepped on to dim the headlights), is that my high school buddies christened it, “The Blue Turd”

Funny I learned in a 3 speed 1965 Mustang (check out the classics thread) and while essentially the same vehicle as yours, got a different response. 

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31 minutes ago, Chopper said:

The site with the Y model review has an article about a hilarious design flaw in the current Model Y. Using the emergency door release without rolling down the window a crack first, even when you can't roll it down because it's a, ya know, emergency (and maybe you don't have power), causes the window to shatter because 

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https://www.theautopian.com/my-neighbors-tesla-model-y-shattered-its-window-because-of-a-bafflingly-bad-design/

 

Look, I fucking hate elon and won't support him in any way. He deserves a very special place in hell. Buuuut, a coworker did the same thing and they fixed it for free. Still a dumbass design. When your 12v battery dies while in your car you will break the window getting out. Garbage car.

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6 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

Funny I learned in a 3 speed 1965 Mustang (check out the classics thread) and while essentially the same vehicle as yours, got a different response. 

My dad paid $100 to get it repainted blue.   That paint job cost more than the car purchase.  Which had something to do with the turd part.

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5 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

My dad paid $100 to get it repainted blue.   That paint job cost more than the car purchase.  Which had something to do with the turd part.

Well then, maybe not essentially the same...

One time I invited some elementary friends over for a sleep over for my birthday.  About fifth grade.  My brother, about three years younger, was just not cool enough to hang with us, so we ostracized him.  To get back at me, my brother ate all the electric blue icing off my birthday cake.  The next day he laid a giant blue turd.  He invited all my friends to gather round and have a look.  Then he took a picture of it with his Instamatic 110, just for posterity. 

Sorry, that's my only blue turd story. 

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1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

When I bought my first Subaru Chrysler was making K cars (or rather, inflicting K cars) for the American public.   Buying American in 1980 instead of Japanese was more of an intelligence test than a patriotism test.

My starter wife grew up in Cleveland.  ~ 1996 we flew to Ohio and borrowed her parents K car for an extended vacation up through Buffalo, Niagra Falls, Boston, NYC and back to Ohio.

"Holy shit" was a phrase coined to describe that car.  It was simultaneously ugly, too heavy, underpowered and it handled like a wildebeast.

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3 hours ago, Guadaloopy said:

Elon already got my money four years ago.  My deal is with the bank.  Nothing I do with the vehicle now can hurt him.  In fact, the people looking to take it off your hands at this point might be active supporters of his recent behavior.  Why would you want to help them while taking a financial hit yourself all to make yourself feel better and virtue signal?

Just slap a "Fuck You, Elon" bumper sticker on the back and keep trucking.

 

You know - this could be an acceptable answer. You don't have to defend Elon, you don't have to make excuses, you can just say "I got this before he was a dick" and be done with it.

But your run to Whataboutism makes me question you.

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7 hours ago, Nivek said:

This is a great teaching moment here.   I suggest you instead respond with something like the following: 

"Goddamnit Elon, now I drive two NAZI cars? (Tesla and VW)" 

"I didn't know he was a Nazi when I bought it" (or the overused "I did NAZI that salute coming"

"I wonder if NOTANAZI license plate is available?"   

 

4 hours ago, Guadaloopy said:

Or this BMW, Benz, VW, Audi, Toyota , Mazda, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Datsun/Nissan, Maserati, Fiat, etc.  Volvo and Sweden were neutral in WW2 and not actively anti-Nazi.  Ford supplied Nazi Germany leading up to the war and used French PoWs in their German plants in 1940.  GM owned 80% of Opel up through 1940 and contributed to Nazi military buildup.  Stellantis is silly with former Axis support, so Chrysler, Dodge, etc are out.

Guess we should all shift to Hyundais and Kias?

 

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1 minute ago, Captain Ron said:

You know - this could be an acceptable answer. You don't have to defend Elon, you don't have to make excuses, you can just say "I got this before he was a dick" and be done with it.

But your run to Whataboutism makes me question you.

Catch up to the thread.  What I posted wasn't "whatboutism", but pointing out the absurdity of pressuring Tesla owners who have owned their cars for years prior to Elon's nazi turn to answer for the fact that they own a Tesla.  It's as absurd as calling out a current Mercedes owner for that company's nazi cronyism 80 years ago.  

I wasn't saying that it's OK to ignore Elon's nazi tendencies because we gave Henry Ford a pass.  That would be whataboutism.  

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2 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

Catch up to the thread.  What I posted wasn't "whatboutism", but pointing out the absurdity of pressuring Tesla owners who have owned their cars for years prior to Elon's nazi turn to answer for the fact that they own a Tesla.  It's as absurd as calling out a current Mercedes owner for that company's nazi cronyism 80 years ago.  

I wasn't saying that it's OK to ignore Elon's nazi tendencies because we gave Henry Ford a pass.  That would be whataboutism.  

You supporting a wannabe nazi dork is par for the course.

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1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

When I bought my first Subaru Chrysler was making K cars (or rather, inflicting K cars) for the American public.   Buying American in 1980 instead of Japanese was more of an intelligence test than a patriotism test.

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Yeah, I felt like an idiot with driving one of these (lesser versions tbh) rather than an Accord in the early 90s.   

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3 hours ago, G650 said:

In all seriousness though I think this is a reasonable position.

No this is not a reasonable statement.  It is defensive and distracting as not a single person asked him to divest the car for our own approval nor would anyone expect someone to take a loss or make a decision based on our preference.   His past statements about buying into the sales hype of having the car make money or be self-driving and safe is not really much different that when our wives come home and tell us how much they saved on those new boots.   It is difficult to convince someone they were played/conned and there sometimes is just no benefit from doing so.   Just reply "those boots are lovely, dear."  

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4 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Just reply "those boots are lovely, dear."  Followed with "and....why don't you come back out here wearing JUST those boots."

FIF some pretty solid advice for you.  Trust me.  Wife talked me into buying her some nice, expensive boots a while back.  A deal was struck.

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33 minutes ago, Nivek said:

No this is not a reasonable statement.  It is defensive and distracting as not a single person asked him to divest the car for our own approval nor would anyone expect someone to take a loss or make a decision based on our preference.   His past statements about buying into the sales hype of having the car make money or be self-driving and safe is not really much different that when our wives come home and tell us how much they saved on those new boots.   It is difficult to convince someone they were played/conned and there sometimes is just no benefit from doing so.   Just reply "those boots are lovely, dear."  

I mean, I've already stated I think Teslas are the lamest thing on the planet, irrespective of Musk's involvement or not. What more do you want

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1 hour ago, Guadaloopy said:

Catch up to the thread.  What I posted wasn't "whatboutism", but pointing out the absurdity of pressuring Tesla owners who have owned their cars for years prior to Elon's nazi turn to answer for the fact that they own a Tesla.  It's as absurd as calling out a current Mercedes owner for that company's nazi cronyism 80 years ago.  

I wasn't saying that it's OK to ignore Elon's nazi tendencies because we gave Henry Ford a pass.  That would be whataboutism.  

He was always a dick, acted like a NAZI, and his cars look like Star Wars rejects.

And people still bought them. And then defended them.

And now we know he is a Nazi, his cars suck more than we knew, and they still defend him. Oh, and they are still ugly cars.

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57 minutes ago, Nivek said:

No this is not a reasonable statement.  It is defensive and distracting as not a single person asked him to divest the car for our own approval nor would anyone expect someone to take a loss or make a decision based on our preference.   His past statements about buying into the sales hype of having the car make money or be self-driving and safe is not really much different that when our wives come home and tell us how much they saved on those new boots.   It is difficult to convince someone they were played/conned and there sometimes is just no benefit from doing so.   Just reply "those boots are lovely, dear."  

“Don’t be ridiculous.  We’re not gonna ask you to get rid of your car… but we’re gonna imply that that you are a nazi supporter if you don’t.

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1 hour ago, Guadaloopy said:

Catch up to the thread.  What I posted wasn't "whatboutism", but pointing out the absurdity of pressuring Tesla owners who have owned their cars for years prior to Elon's nazi turn to answer for the fact that they own a Tesla.  It's as absurd as calling out a current Mercedes owner for that company's nazi cronyism 80 years ago.  

I wasn't saying that it's OK to ignore Elon's nazi tendencies because we gave Henry Ford a pass.  That would be whataboutism.  

While I would hate my white Tesla to be spray-painted with a swastika (not that I would own one), there are multiple layers of positives from that. OK, maybe not positive for the guy who owns the white Tesla. But the interweb being what it is, now people throughout the world know you might get your car spray-painted if it’s a Tesla.  It’s not unreasonable to assume that will cause a reduction in sales for the simple reason people don’t want their car painted.  It will also educate people who don’t know about Nazi boy that he is a Nazi boy.   

And it may make people trade in their Tesla for another model, all for the same reason.   I do not condone it, but I’m not unhappy to see it.  And while, undoubtedly, the spray painter bears culpability for spray painting, so does Elmo.  Elmo has tried to make the brand an extension of his own narcissistic identity and welcomed Tesla ownership as joining his cult of personality.  So Elmo had to know that what he does personally reflects on the company he has embraced as a part of his personality.

 

TL;DR. Tesla boy fucked around and now he is finding out.

edit: I haz a disappoint with the legal community. Where are the goddamn shareholder derivative suits?

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1 hour ago, Guadaloopy said:

I'll once again ask for any receipts that show me actually praising or supporting Musk himself.

"I despise Hitler but he had a helluva plan with those trains to the internment camps," is a helluva flex, dear sir.

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