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On 1/27/2025 at 10:32 AM, Dahobbs said:

Selling my car isn't going to cost him money. So I'm not going to do that. But I will not be shopping a Tesla for future vehicles (unless perhaps he gets kicked the curb). 

No, but it might cause him to not sell one in the future. Remember when every cool dude needed a humvee? Same with Teslas. First there was one at the Randalls, then the perception (yeah, it is only perception btw) that they were cool, plus you could brag about how you were saving the planet, increased. And others who wanted to be cool (but were really that asshole who just added some worthless feature to Office) went and bought one. Now the ugly fuckers are all over the place. See, but selling them you show the assholes you think being a NAZI wanna be is bad and they should not get your dime, OR your support.

Think of it like this. Michael Bolton from Office Space would mortgage his gangsta rap collection for a Tesla. You want to be perceived as that guy?

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5 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

No, but it might cause him to not sell one in the future. Remember when every cool dude needed a humvee? Same with Teslas. First there was one at the Randalls, then the perception (yeah, it is only perception btw) that they were cool, plus you could brag about how you were saving the planet, increased. And others who wanted to be cool (but were really that asshole who just added some worthless feature to Office) went and bought one. Now the ugly fuckers are all over the place. See, but selling them you show the assholes you think being a NAZI wanna be is bad and they should not get your dime, OR your support.

Think of it like this. Michael Bolton from Office Space would mortgage his gangsta rap collection for a Tesla. You want to be perceived as that guy?

South Park covered this years ago.

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19 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Selling my car necessarily means someone else has it. I don't reduce total ownership by selling. And people still need to see EVs out on the road. 

I got taken to task for not selling mine either. We just bought my son a car, I’ve got one more son to buy for next year.  We converted a lease termination to purchase on our maycan in 2024 - we had like $15k in “equity” on the buyout option so we went for a long term hold on that car while we deal with teenagers. So we are paid off on the tesla and in good shape on our other car while we deal with the two boys. The timing for me to get a new car is just awful. The next 2-3 years we will have 2 purchases on top of the lease buyout. The hit to musk if I sell my tesla is nonexistent. So I’m not adding an extra burden on our budget for purity politics. 
 

but I am eyeing the new Scout SUV EV…. Wowzers. 

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9 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Astronauts are not stranded on ISS.  This is a new storyline that was launched and Trump and Elon are doing kayfabe. 

 

10 hours ago, F250 said:

There are no stranded astronauts on the ISS.

 

Nasa hasn't had space shuttles to get them since 2011. Boeing Starliner is a piece of shit. 

I guess relying on Soyuz makes sense since they are still going back and fourth but there's no American option to get them back. 

The ISS is going into the ocean in 5 years.

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10 hours ago, F250 said:

There are no stranded astronauts on the ISS.

 

10 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Astronauts are not stranded on ISS.  This is a new storyline that was launched and Trump and Elon are doing kayfabe. 

I'm not trying to be a dick, but answering a stretched truth with another stretched truth doesn't solve anything or help anyone. 

Trump is not ordering a new effort.  Trump's kayfabe is that he is riding in to "save the day", when in fact the very thing that he is proposing (SpaceX flight to retrieve them) has been in planning and execution since at least August.

NASA's claim that the astronauts are "not stranded" is nearly as bad.  It's bullshit semantics.  The astronauts were supposed to be home nearly 8 months ago.  It's perfectly fine to say that these astronauts are not abandoned, and it's perfectly fine for NASA to frame it internally that these astronauts are not stranded.  But to communicate that publicly diminishes the organization.  It's just spin.

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9 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

NASA's claim that the astronauts are "not stranded" is nearly as bad.  It's bullshit semantics.  The astronauts were supposed to be home nearly 8 months ago.  It's perfectly fine to say that these astronauts are not abandoned, and it's perfectly fine for NASA to frame it internally that these astronauts are not stranded.  But to communicate that publicly diminishes the organization.  It's just spin.

Stranded implies there is no way home. They are in space, it isn't like running down to HEB to pick up a gallon of milk at 10 PM.

They aren't fucking Tom Hanks in Cast Away, which the main person this thread is about seems to be acting like.

Guy, it's ALL spin. It always has been. Bringing the president and Musk into it only guarantees even more spin.

Company got screwed by a vendor. It happens a million times every single day, except they are in space so it takes more planning to get right so they don't die either going to get them or coming back.

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5 minutes ago, NoName said:

Stranded implies there is no way home. They are in space, it isn't like running down to HEB to pick up a gallon of milk at 10 PM.

They aren't fucking Tom Hanks in Cast Away, which the main person this thread is about seems to be acting like.

Guy, it's ALL spin. It always has been. Bringing the president and Musk into it only guarantees even more spin.

Company got screwed by a vendor. It happens a million times every single day, except they are in space so it takes more planning to get right so they don't die either going to get them or coming back.

ok not stranded just

STUCK

https://apnews.com/article/nasa-spacex-boeing-starliner-astronauts-922b43fa8d0e1f9622022a52f8c8e2ed
 

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Could 2 NASA astronauts be stuck at the space station until next year? A decision is imminent

NASA has been wrestling with that decision ever since Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams arrived at the orbiting lab in early June on what was supposed to be a weeklong test flight.

 

hey aren't stranded, just "stuck" on the ISS for 6+ months during their week long test flight up there...

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5 minutes ago, Zeus said:

ok not stranded just

STUCK

https://apnews.com/article/nasa-spacex-boeing-starliner-astronauts-922b43fa8d0e1f9622022a52f8c8e2ed
 

hey aren't stranded, just "stuck" on the ISS for 6+ months during their week long test flight up there...

it's SPACE.

If it was so fucking easy why is it taking SpaceX this long then? Why didn't they just fly up there in August and pick those dudes up?

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1 minute ago, NoName said:

it's SPACE.

If it was so fucking easy why is it taking SpaceX this long then? Why didn't they just fly up there in August and pick those dudes up?

 

Good question.

Why wasn't there a plan to go rescue them? The "decision was imminent" in August 23, 2024 according to the AP. 

Yet, there wasn't any news after that I could find. 

I don't think Musk is some hero, I think the CIA created a bunch of front companies to "publicly" run things and have him as a frontman. 

 

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Are the two astronauts stranded?

NASA bristles at suggestions that Wilmore and Williams are stranded or stuck. NASA has stressed from the get-go that in an emergency at the space station — like a fire or decompression — Starliner could still be used by the pair as a lifeboat to leave. A former NASA executive contends the astronauts are “kind of stuck,” although certainly not stranded. They’re safe aboard the space station with plenty of supplies and work to do, Scott Hubbard pointed out recently.

If NASA decides to go with a SpaceX return, Starliner would be be cut loose first to open up one of two parking spots for U.S. capsules. Before that happens Wilmore and Williams would fashion seats for themselves in the SpaceX Dragon capsule currently docked at the space station. That’s because every station occupant needs a lifeboat at all times. Once Starliner’s docking port is empty, then SpaceX could launch another Dragon to fill that slot — the one that Wilmore and Williams would ride.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Zeus said:

 

 

Nasa hasn't had space shuttles to get them since 2011. Boeing Starliner is a piece of shit. 

I guess relying on Soyuz makes sense since they are still going back and fourth but there's no American option to get them back. 

The ISS is going into the ocean in 5 years.

What are you babbling about? A SpaceX Crew Dragon has been docked at the ISS for 3 months and has been scheduled to return to Earth in March. This has been the plan for awhile.

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4 minutes ago, F250 said:

What are you babbling about? A SpaceX Crew Dragon has been docked at the ISS for 3 months and has been scheduled to return to Earth in March. This has been the plan for awhile.

It was originally scheduled to return in February and has been delayed until March "at the earliest."  I think we are all confident that these astronauts will make home safely in the relatively near future, but we don't have to pretend that this situation is super duper routine and NBD.

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YouTube’s top cheater hunter decodes Elon Musk’s gaming farce

https://www.msn.com/en-us/gaming/gaming-platforms/youtube-s-top-cheater-hunter-decodes-elon-musk-s-gaming-farce/ar-AA1y3FL3

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Elon Musk, the planet’s richest human, has been caught twisting the truth about how good he is at video games.

He has recently been feuding with the games community over his achievements in a variety of video games, namely “Diablo IV” and “Path of Exile 2,” two role-playing games that demand hundreds of hours of playtime to earn high-level characters and gear. While Musk’s antics to grab attention don’t interest me, I am fascinated by the psychology of cheaters, especially for something as low-stakes as video games.

I figured the best person to break down this behavior is YouTube’s preeminent debunker of video game cheaters, Karl Jobst, a 38-year-old Australian with 1.1 million subscribers. Jobst is a respected speedrunner of classic games and has a history of fair but uncompromising takedowns of cheaters in the video game space. He’s currently fighting a defamation lawsuit filed by Billy Mitchell, the 59-year-old hot sauce entrepreneur who gained international attention for his record-breaking plays of “Pac-Man” and “Donkey Kong” and who’s the focus of the 2007 documentary “The King of Kong: A Fistful of Quarters.” (Record keepers stripped Mitchell of those scores after allegations of cheating, then reinstated them last year following a legal settlement.)

Jobst recently announced that his next video will cover Musk. He posted online, “I’m not sure the story has been told entirely accurately.”

Make no mistake, Jobst is unsparing in his criticism of how Musk boasts about his gaming skills.

“He shouldn’t lie and make these claims,” Jobst said in an interview, adding: “Maybe him being so deluded about his own ability is why he is where he is today. He thinks he’s great at everything. It doesn’t matter if someone else helped him get his account so high. He thinks he’s such a good gamer that he doesn’t need to put in the thousands of hours.” (Musk did not respond to The Washington Post’s requests for comment about his gaming.)

But Jobst extends grace to how Musk has portrayed his prowess on “Path of Exile 2.” Expert players of the game, such as Quintin Crawford, or Quin69 on YouTube, have criticized Musk’s high-level character, saying that Musk paid others to play for him in an act known as “boosting.” Musk has since admitted, via a reposted video sharing his private messages, that he engages in the practice, adding that he never meant to claim those achievements as solely his own.

“When I actually watched the stream with Elon, it didn’t come across that way to me that Elon was boasting that much,” Jobst said. “It was a test stream for data on X, and he barely played the game really. And he never said he was good at ‘Path of Exile 2.’ He never made the claim. Yes, he has a very high character, but he obviously paid someone to boost the account. The coverage of it was really, really exaggerated.”

Outside the stream, Musk posted that his character’s high level made the game feel easy.

Jobst still considers Musk a liar about his video game prowess, and he finds it bizarre how Musk reacted angrily to prominent critics, such as the streamer Asmongold, to the point that Musk leaked private messages to mock him.

“That’s why I want to talk to Elon, because I want to ask him why he reacted so badly to Asmongold’s coverage, and then immediately afterward admit he was right anyway,” Jobst said.

Jobst takes bigger issue with Musk’s claim to be “at one point ... maybe one of the best ‘Quake’ players in the world,” another claim that people familiar with Musk’s play have debunked. Then there’s Musk boasting about speedrunning “Diablo IV,” becoming a world-ranked player. “Diablo IV” isn’t a game that requires technical skill demanded by action games such as “Fortnite” and “Quake.” Instead, it’s about playing the game long enough to earn the best equipment to be the most powerful. Skill mostly equals understanding the game’s systems and spending an exorbitant amount of time playing.

“I was disliking the way he was characterizing and he was pointing to things I didn’t really like,” Jobst said. “He obviously doesn’t understand the core tenet of speedrunning, which is generally we start from scratch. We wouldn’t be speedrunning with advanced characters like he did.”

Jobst said there will always be people lying about video game achievements, regardless of the class or status of the player, because virtual achievements are by nature harder to scrutinize. Skinny people like myself can claim to bench-press 500 pounds, and the lie would be immediately obvious. For gaming achievements, Jobst said it’s very hard to disprove unless people provide footage of their play to dissect, which is Jobst’s expertise.

“His behavior is commonplace, and I’ve seen cheaters react very poorly to being exposed, probably even worse than Elon,” Jobst said. “But, I mean, he’s the richest guy in the world. It’s just a bit more perplexing.”

I’ve cheated in games before but have never boasted about those achievements because they weren’t honestly earned. I cheated because it’s often fun to be powerful in games. PC games offer mods, while many console games offer in-game cheats provided by the developers. Because Jobst has spoken with so many “caught” cheaters, I wondered whether he had insight on what motivates these people to publicly lie. He doesn’t believe in casting moral judgment on cheaters.

“Sometimes they lie and fake things because it’s funny,” he said. “Sometimes they don’t think they really know what’s wrong and they really try to cover it up and feel guilty about it. Sometimes they lie and they just completely forget they did that. There’s a massive spectrum of how important people think video gaming is and how much it matters to people about accomplishments.”

Musk’s gaming prowess was first called into question when he shared his character for 2022’s “Elden Ring,” a game that requires particular knowledge of its statistics and mechanics to create a functional “build” of a character. Musk’s character build made little sense, reflecting a flawed understanding of the game’s rules. It’s acts like these that make Jobst believe that Musk may just be ignorant of what it takes to be considered “good” at video games.

“It’s entirely plausible that he just doesn’t really appreciate how much effort it takes to be really good at something,” he said. “Does he actually have a good understanding of that, so when he does lie about how good he is, how much that’s disrespecting the work that actual best players are putting in?”

Jobst compared it to his own feats of juggling. He remembers seeing an old video of a performer juggling three balls in a synchronized performance to music by the Beatles. When Jobst was younger, he thought this performer was the best juggler in the world. It wasn’t until he started his own practice that he learned it takes much more skill to juggle more balls with more advanced techniques.

“I can envision someone getting into a position where they just didn’t know enough how good good actually is,” Jobst said. “Elon may not really care. He should. He’s got a lot of responsibility with his platform to not be a liar.”

 

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24 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

It was originally scheduled to return in February and has been delayed until March "at the earliest."  I think we are all confident that these astronauts will make home safely in the relatively near future, but we don't have to pretend that this situation is super duper routine and NBD.

Yeah yeah.

Musk is going to fly in and save the day.

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2 hours ago, Zeus said:

 

 

Nasa hasn't had space shuttles to get them since 2011. Boeing Starliner is a piece of shit. 

I guess relying on Soyuz makes sense since they are still going back and fourth but there's no American option to get them back. 

The ISS is going into the ocean in 5 years.

You have no fucking clue what you're talking about. 

Here is some actual, factual reporting on what is going on: https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/01/why-did-elon-musk-just-say-trump-wants-to-bring-two-stranded-astronauts-home/

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Foremost, NASA has gone to great lengths to stress that the two astronauts referenced here—Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams—are not stranded on the International Space Station. There is some debate about whether there was a period last summer when the pair, who flew to the space station on a Boeing Starliner vehicle in early June, were briefly stranded. That mission was hobbled by technical issues, including problems with Starliner's propulsion system. (Ultimately, Starliner flew home without its crew.) However, since the arrival of SpaceX's Crew-9 mission with two empty seats in late September, Wilmore and Williams have had a safe ride home. The Dragon vehicle is presently docked to the space station.

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The current return date is being driven by the launch of the Crew-10 mission, also on a SpaceX vehicle. This mission is flying a new Dragon spacecraft, and SpaceX previously asked for a little more time to process and prepare the spacecraft for its debut launch. This moved the target for flying this mission from February to March 25. To meet this date, sources indicated that it's possible SpaceX may need to appropriate a different, previously flown Dragon—possibly the Dragon intended for use by the Axiom-4 mission—to complete Crew-10.

NASA would very much prefer the four astronauts on Crew-10 arrive before Crew-9 departs. Why? Because if Crew-9 were to depart sooner, it would leave just a single astronaut, Don Pettit, on board the station. Now, Pettit is a very experienced and capable astronaut, but having just a single NASA astronaut on board to operate the US segment of the station is far from optimal. In addition to leaving Pettit in a difficult position, it would cancel a planned spacewalk in March and leave just a single person to prepare a Northrop Grumman cargo spacecraft for departure. This is apparently a big deal.

"It takes time to load trash; everything has to be packed in certain bags in certain locations for various reasons," a NASA source told Ars. "For example, any batteries that are being trashed have to be in a fireproof container. Bags have to be loaded in certain locations to maintain the proper center of gravity. And you’ve got seven crew members' worth of trash that have already been waiting since the last disposal flight."

Another consideration is if Crew-10 were to slip further from its late March launch date. Pettit flew to the space station on a Russian Soyuz vehicle, and it is due to return on April 20. The Soyuz spacecraft is certified to remain in orbit for 210 days, and April 20 is already 221 days after their launch. April 20 is probably a hard end date for that mission.

So technically, yes, the "stranded" astronauts on the space station probably could come home as early as next week. But if they were to do so, it would create a lot of headaches for NASA, its international partners, and probably even for Musk's human spaceflight team at SpaceX.

 

The long and short of it is that the astronauts could literally come home whenever we want. But they and we would like them to stay up longer so that the space station is actually, you know, manned. They aren't stranded. They have their return vehicle right next to them if needed. But work is asking them to stay late so shit continues to run smoothly until the next workers arrive. Being that they are astronauts who spend their entire careers dreaming about the opportunity to go into space, I don't think they are too broken up about it. 

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30 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

It was originally scheduled to return in February and has been delayed until March "at the earliest."  I think we are all confident that these astronauts will make home safely in the relatively near future, but we don't have to pretend that this situation is super duper routine and NBD.

They could come home tomorrow if it was needed. Stop spreading bullshit. 

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4 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

They could come home tomorrow if it was needed. Stop spreading bullshit. 

They could.  And it would cause a cascade of impacts to operations on the ISS.  

Here are the facts of the situation:

1. The Boeing test crew was unable to return as scheduled.

2. Future plans were modified to allow them to return while still allowing routine operations on ISS. 

4. Crew 9 was delayed a month and went up with two members instead of four so that the Boeing test crew could return with them when they are relieved by Crew 10.  

5. Crew 10 has been delayed from a February launch until late March at the earliest.

 

So the Boeing test crew was initially stuck/stranded on the ISS due to technical issues with their return capsule.  Then they were "stuck" on the ISS due to manning shortfalls that stemmed from plan modifications to allow them to return.  Now they are "stuck" longer as their relief mission is delayed.    Saying that they could come home tomorrow is impractical bullshit.  It's NASA copium.

 

8 minutes ago, F250 said:

Yeah yeah.

Musk is going to fly in and save the day.

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That is not at all what I said.  But the fact is that NASA under the Biden administration made the call to use scheduled SpaceX flights to "save the day."

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35 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

They could.  And it would cause a cascade of impacts to operations on the ISS.  

Here are the facts of the situation:

1. The Boeing test crew was unable to return as scheduled.

2. Future plans were modified to allow them to return while still allowing routine operations on ISS. 

4. Crew 9 was delayed a month and went up with two members instead of four so that the Boeing test crew could return with them when they are relieved by Crew 10.  

5. Crew 10 has been delayed from a February launch until late March at the earliest.

 

So the Boeing test crew was initially stuck/stranded on the ISS due to technical issues with their return capsule.  Then they were "stuck" on the ISS due to manning shortfalls that stemmed from plan modifications to allow them to return.  Now they are "stuck" longer as their relief mission is delayed.    Saying that they could come home tomorrow is impractical bullshit.  It's NASA copium.

 

That is not at all what I said.  But the fact is that NASA under the Biden administration made the call to use scheduled SpaceX flights to "save the day."

How does Elon’s dick taste? Umami at the back of the tongue or bitter at the front? 
 

Who are we kidding, it doesn’t reach the back. 

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3 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

How does Elon’s dick taste? Umami at the back of the tongue or bitter at the front? 
 

Who are we kidding, it doesn’t reach the back. 

I fail to see how anything I have posted in this part of the discussion could warrant this response.  Sounds like you might have some sort of fixation.  

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56 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

They could.  And it would cause a cascade of impacts to operations on the ISS.  

Here are the facts of the situation:

1. The Boeing test crew was unable to return as scheduled.

2. Future plans were modified to allow them to return while still allowing routine operations on ISS. 

4. Crew 9 was delayed a month and went up with two members instead of four so that the Boeing test crew could return with them when they are relieved by Crew 10.  

5. Crew 10 has been delayed from a February launch until late March at the earliest.

 

So the Boeing test crew was initially stuck/stranded on the ISS due to technical issues with their return capsule.  Then they were "stuck" on the ISS due to manning shortfalls that stemmed from plan modifications to allow them to return.  Now they are "stuck" longer as their relief mission is delayed.    Saying that they could come home tomorrow is impractical bullshit.  It's NASA copium.

 

That is not at all what I said.  But the fact is that NASA under the Biden administration made the call to use scheduled SpaceX flights to "save the day."

There is no doubt that Boeings issues have complicated their return and for a short period of time the method of their return was unknown and unavailable. That is stranded. They aren't stranded now. That is a bullshit framing. They could leave. It would cause headaches, but they could do it. The ISS wouldn't collapse if they did. It just wouldn't be ideal. Calling this stranded is fucking bullshit fear mongering. Stop it.  They've been asked to work overtime and they are being team players about it (partly because, you know, they are fucking astronauts). 

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27 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Calling this stranded is fucking bullshit fear mongering. Stop it. 

You stipulate in your response that they were at one point stranded.  Until this whole situation is resolved, they are in the public consciousness "stranded astronauts." 

I agree with everything in your reply except the classification of the term "stranded" as fear-mongering.

It's not an emergency situation, but it is most certainly not business as usual.

 

All that said... it is utter bullshit that Trump and Musk are stepping up and trying to present themselves as saviors for spearheading some "new" effort to "rescue" them, as if a solid plan for the astronauts' return hasn't been in place for months.  That is 100% kayfabe. 

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2 hours ago, C-Man said:

Kudos to this youtuber but at this point it's like making a video proving that Lance Bass is gay. Did anyone think otherwise?

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5 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Me reading almost any thread anymore…

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The banality of bat shit crazy.

Leadership starts literally shitting in each other's mouths in public. Instead of everyone being shocked people start talking about how it could be beneficial to one's gut flora.

 

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2 hours ago, Guadaloopy said:

I fail to see how anything I have posted in this part of the discussion could warrant this response.  Sounds like you might have some sort of fixation.  

Haven't you heard? Orange Man bad and a HAPA South African guy is a "Nazi traitor piece of shit" according to the totally unbiased non-cloak room thread title 

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1 hour ago, F250 said:

Elon/Trump create an outrageous narrative.

Reasonable people push back on the hyperbole.

Weird nerd jumps into the mix.

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Who cares about facts or truth or any of that shit

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O R A N G E M A N B A D 

 

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21 minutes ago, Zeus said:

Haven't you heard? Orange Man bad and a HAPA South African guy is a "Nazi traitor piece of shit" according to the totally unbiased non-cloak room thread title 

Fuck back off to the cloak room

This thread is all about Elon not the other guy

24 minutes ago, Zeus said:

Who cares about facts or truth or any of that shit

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O R A N G E M A N B A D 

 

I think you are a CIA plant put in place to get people fired up about dumb shit while the actual conversation goes miles over your head.

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30 minutes ago, Zeus said:

Who cares about facts or truth or any of that shit

 

Please provide facts or just keep shitting your pants in front of us.

Zeus proceeds to shit his pants then runs off giggling.

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