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Scheiss bringing his a game.  A class operator, that is.

 

And 0.145 MGD won’t move the needle.  It’s a tiny discharge.  Unless it’s got some kind of unusual component in the raw waste, that could be done with a small membrane system and cost a couple of million to buy.

 

 Not much of a story and lots of more important stuff to worry about.

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11 minutes ago, Not that Bob said:

That water comes from somewhere and people in the area are concerned with dwindling ground water. Consumption of that much water will not be good for the area. 

I think we have a thread on it somewhere, but water supplies and water usage are going to shape the future of parts of Texas in a way that most people these days would not understand.

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4 hours ago, MrBig said:

Who else is dumping 142,500 gallons of treated wastewater into the Colorado river every single day? How does this dumping of “treated wastewater” compare to other business entities along the Colorado River? What are the statistics to compare, does anyone know? 

Where do you think all the waste water in Austin ends up?

https://www.austintexas.gov/department/wastewater-treatment-plants

With more than 95 percent of wastes removed, the wastewater then passes to the chlorine basins for disinfection. To further reduce suspended solids, the wastewater flows through filters or another clarifier. Then a small amount of sulfur dioxide or sodium bisulfite is applied to remove the chlorine before the fully treated water is discharged to the Colorado River or reused through the City's Water Reclamation Program.

Hate Elon, fine by me, but for fucks sake some of you see anything he does and immediately assume he’s wrong/evil because you hate his dumbass political takes. Austin and LCRA don’t fuck around with wastewater, if he fucks up in anyway he’ll pay out the ass.

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Funny you mention water supplies, I just had a water well guy at my house yesterday because of a sudden drop in our water pressure.  I'm going to have to drop my water pump deeper down the well casing.  There's a nice big holding pond for fracking that was put in a couple years ago about a mile down the road from our house.  They're drinking my milkshake and there's not shit I can do about it.  It also happened to the landowner where the holding pond is located, so good job dumbass.

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6 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Funny you mention water supplies, I just had a water well guy at my house yesterday because of a sudden drop in our water pressure.  I'm going to have to drop my water pump deeper down the well casing.  There's a nice big holding pond for fracking that was put in a couple years ago about a mile down the road from our house.  They're drinking my milkshake and there's not shit I can do about it.  It also happened to the landowner where the holding pond is located, so good job dumbass.

Are you in the hill country? Because I've read a couple articles how various projects have basically permanently fucked up with wells of tons of home and landowners. 

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5 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Are you in the hill country? Because I've read a couple articles how various projects have basically permanently fucked up with wells of tons of home and landowners. 

 

On 10/17/2022 at 10:35 PM, Captainant said:

A for-profit enterprise ignoring the negative externalities of their actions to the detriment of the community they move into? In MY Texas??

[Laughs in oil and gas]

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4 minutes ago, kevwun said:

No, I'm between Houston and Austin, but it's happening in our area too.  The water well guy knew what was going on as soon as he started looking at our issue because he's been seeing it more and more.

 

Just now, Captainant said:

 

[Laughs in oil and gas]

wife desperately wants to retire to the Hill Country. And every time we visit, man, I can see why she loves it. 

I don't have the heart to tell her that the water situation will make this place an untenable wasteland in about 15 or so years. I'd love for the kiddo go to UT, but...

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39 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

 

wife desperately wants to retire to the Hill Country. And every time we visit, man, I can see why she loves it. 

I don't have the heart to tell her that the water situation will make this place an untenable wasteland in about 15 or so years. I'd love for the kiddo go to UT, but...

We had been planning to move to Wimberly for years. But you can't live without water, so we're stuck in Austin. 

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53 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Are you in the hill country? Because I've read a couple articles how various projects have basically permanently fucked up with wells of tons of home and landowners. 

Happened to a friend of ours who lives south of Hamilton Pool Road on the way to Dripping... basically well dried up.  He put in a rainwater system which is great... except for one thing...

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Twitter employees wrote a letter demanding not to follow through on an “ up 75% employee reduction” and a guarantee that Musk will maintain both the things regarding salary and benefits in the agreement as well as those implied by being a twitter employee (work from home etc).

Musk replied something along the lines if you are a value added employee you are not in danger.

 

Really curious what will go down on Friday. I would expect it to be a few weeks before any major internal changes are made, but then again what has the acquisition team been doing the last several months if not developing some form of plan when it becomes official.

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He needs to cut staff, along with a shit ton of other changes. That's what happens at companies not making money. (Yes I realize they should be cutting C-Suite staff and salaries too). 

He could make good improvements or this could become a toxic shit-fire. It should be fun either way. 

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2 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

He needs to cut staff, along with a shit ton of other changes. That's what happens at companies not making money. (Yes I realize they should be cutting C-Suite staff and salaries too). 

He could make good improvements or this could become a toxic shit-fire. It should be fun either way. 

I don't know why you think this is a realistic possibility. 

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7 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

He needs to cut staff, along with a shit ton of other changes. That's what happens at companies not making money. (Yes I realize they should be cutting C-Suite staff and salaries too). 

He could make good improvements or this could become a toxic shit-fire. It should be fun either way. 

It's going to be like when they shut down the containment unit in Ghostbusters right up until it hinders their ability to sell advertising, then who knows how they course correct. 

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4 minutes ago, Samson's Wig said:

Regardless of what Musk is or isn't, Twitter employees sound like a pack of entitled twats.  

 

1 minute ago, Neonmoon said:

He needs to cut staff, along with a shit ton of other changes. That's what happens at companies not making money. (Yes I realize they should be cutting C-Suite staff and salaries too). 

He could make good improvements or this could become a toxic shit-fire. It should be fun either way. 

Friday has the makings of an insane day, so get your popcorn ready.

I could see a dozen ways this could go down, and all of them will make some segments of this heads explode. Just a few quick over the top possibilities from a pure popcorn standpoint.

1. Do a straight riff of 25% on Friday and expect everyone to be in the office on Monday. Have those not in Monday put on an improvement plan with the goal of additional employee reduction.

2. Reinstate everyone onto the platform, outside of those accounts shown to be bots, and move forward. 

3. Remove all blue check marks and setup a new criteria to color code the check marks for proposed sphere of expertise.

4. Instantly offer a twitter+ feature that is the only space that gets moderated/protected with all accounts grandfathered in for 30 days. If you are a + user you can turn off or mute anyone with the default option of all non + members muted and only + members tweets show up on trending.

5. Remove all filters from trending and just go with hashtag frequency. Use this to both target bots and micro advertising/influence campaigns.

6. Watch it all burn as now all sides think the other side needs to be reported and use the mass report waves to help target additional bots.

7. A month later watch the $$ roll in as people sign up for twitter+ to be able to ignore people to recreate the echo chamber they want and then go through the non + accounts hard to chase after bots.

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He forgot the part where he shot his mouth off, ignored legal advice during due process and was then forced to go through with the purchase.  And yes, it's going to be a complete shitshow within a couple of months.

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3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

If he does what he claims then everyone will go elsewhere to get their grievance on…

He's trying to simultaneously promise that nothing will change for most users and advertisers while also promising to let all of the absolute worst users back on the platform (you know, those who post ISIS beheading videos, child porn, nazi propaganda, and love to harass and threaten normies) so there can be a "debate" about a "wide range of beliefs." 

Unless he really wants to dump a lot more of his own money into this, he can't afford to hemorrhage users and advertisers, but he also can't afford to keep much of Twitter's workforce. And he's ideologically committed to turning Twitter into an 8chan cesspool.

This is going to crash and burn worse than a Tesla on autopilot.

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56 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

Musk's response to advertisers about why he bought Twitter is really interesting..

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54 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

He'll turn it into a right wing hellscape. 

Humans self-segregating into different social media platforms based on ideology is no more or less dangerous than a single social media platform using algorithms and AI to segregate us based on ideological preference.  Either way, we are not in a digital town square where our ideas and opinions have to stand up to other's ideas and opinions.  In both cases, we are just plugging in to have our id's streamed a bunch of reinforcing information that tells us we are right.

If Musk is going to make good on his stated desire to bring people of different ideologies together in a melting pot of debate, he's going to have to fundamentally change how Twitter selects the information it presents its users and how Twitter makes money from their user base.  He'll have to present users not with a curated stream of information that says, "You are 100% right!" to keep them engaged and identify them as very hot leads for different marketing purposes.  He'll have to present them with a stream of information that challenges their beliefs, potentially drives them to disengage and makes them a less hot lead for marketing purposes.  Twitter will make less money selling its users to marketers and likely have to find alternative ways to monetize from them.

Musk is right with the basic idea that such a transformation could never have happened with Twitter being a public company where shareholder value could not be allowed to plummet.  I have some doubts, though, as to whether he is truly committed to this noble goal and what it is going to take to realize it.  The platform is likely going to lose a lot of money and be valued considerably less than the $44 billion he paid for it for quite some time while they rework its core business model.

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On 10/25/2022 at 12:12 PM, Samson's Wig said:

Regardless of what Musk is or isn't, Twitter employees sound like a pack of entitled twats.  

I'd feel some sympathy if they made shoes or cooked meals or something, but they help Twitter make Tweets. That's like a factory where they pour untreated waste into the river, and that's their main product.

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2 minutes ago, kevwun said:

He's going to let crazy people post whatever they want.  Twitter will be destroyed within a year and something else will replace it.

That's most likely.  I mean, what he says he is about to do is not something that is going to make him look like a visionary genius capitalist and entrepreneur.  If he tries to follow through with it, Twitter's value will drop sharply, and its recovery (if it ever recovers) will be slow.  He's going to look like he's running Twitter into the ground, and I don't think his narcissistic streak is going to allow him to stick with it through that.

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20 minutes ago, Goredho said:

 

Humans self-segregating into different social media platforms based on ideology is no more or less dangerous than a single social media platform using algorithms and AI to segregate us based on ideological preference.  Either way, we are not in a digital town square where our ideas and opinions have to stand up to other's ideas and opinions.  In both cases, we are just plugging in to have our id's streamed a bunch of reinforcing information that tells us we are right.

If Musk is going to make good on his stated desire to bring people of different ideologies together in a melting pot of debate, he's going to have to fundamentally change how Twitter selects the information it presents its users and how Twitter makes money from their user base.  He'll have to present users not with a curated stream of information that says, "You are 100% right!" to keep them engaged and identify them as very hot leads for different marketing purposes.  He'll have to present them with a stream of information that challenges their beliefs, potentially drives them to disengage and makes them a less hot lead for marketing purposes.  Twitter will make less money selling its users to marketers and likely have to find alternative ways to monetize from them.

Musk is right with the basic idea that such a transformation could never have happened with Twitter being a public company where shareholder value could not be allowed to plummet.  I have some doubts, though, as to whether he is truly committed to this noble goal and what it is going to take to realize it.  The platform is likely going to lose a lot of money and be valued considerably less than the $44 billion he paid for it for quite some time while they rework its core business model.

This is why I still think he is going to change how the blue checkmark process is dealt with and instead allow spheres or streams within Twitter and segregate those experts to within those streams. Outside of those areas, your tweets are treated just like everyone else and would help tone down the platform-wide echo chamber.

If you don't want to fight it out with the political headaches, mute or avoid that sphere. Want to deal with tech in your stream, align with that sphere. This moves advertising from a broadbased approach to targeted spheres and theoretically allows maintaining or even increase advertising prices due to getting targeted messaging instead of somewhat generalized messaging.

As an added bonus it allows for the added data input to help both better catergozie the user base as well as a way to continue to help build better models to target bots.

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That is why I bought Twitter. I didn't do it because it would be easy. I didn't do it to make more money. I did it to try to help humanity, whom I love. And I do so with humility, recognizing that failure in pursuing this goal, despite our best efforts, is a very real possibility.

My favorite part of his bullshit is when he claims to be humble. His humility is on par with the Trumps and Kanyes of the world. And like those two clowns, he craves having the world talking about how great he is, or how shitty he is, just as long as he is the topic of conversation. 

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